Off The Record: What Actually Qualifies as Asian Fetishization?
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This was a good discussion! And also I'm loving Joe's advertising for the bra brand 😆
sammme high key might check it out 😂
I was just about to comment about how much I love his bra ad.
I contemplated buying some lol😅
Hahahaha. Yes!
"When your views about a culture supersedes how a person actually is". Love that. That's exactly my experience with "Asian fetishization". I'm an Asian American in a predominantly white area and had my fair share of people fetishizing me based on my ethnic background because of what they've seen in porn with Asian people or expecting me to be a submissive caregiver. When I don't fit that role, I've legit seen grown ass boys throw tantrums.
The Anthony edit at 20:08 😂😂😂 good job editor can!!!
Like who you like and what you like, just don’t be weird about it and for the love of god, don’t make what you like, your entire identity. Keep your options open.
I think fetishization is based on desiring/solely dating a specific group or ethnicity based on a specific stereotypical (usually sexual) quality. For example, if a girl only dates black dudes because she likes big dicks, that would be fetishization vs if a girl only dated black dudes because that’s what she finds most attractive is just preference.
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Have you tried it? I have been buying bras left and right and haven’t found a good one. I’m tired of the Victoria secret ones. They are so uncomfortable.
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Fetishization deals with sexual desire + gradification vs having an attraction to features. Attraction is multifaceted affection vs fetishization which is sexual in nature and objectifies whatever is being fetishized.
I'm SO GLAD yall talked about this but I'm with Anthony, I don't think I've learned anything from video 😅😂
"Just don't be weird about it" is a great rule to follow in life in general
The transition of 4 guys to a bra ad is insanely funny.
Almost as funny as having Nick around
I got huevos ranchero’ed LMAO
I had a girl at work constantly hit on me saying she loves brown guys, mentioning her indian ex and would berate her own race/culture... I wasn't attracted to her in the first place but after that I genuinely disliked her
If she had said "I like brown guys" and left it at that I would have zero problem, the issue was that she kept going lol. It's fine to have a type just don't shove it in someone's face, that's weird.
I think I would need to know WHY she liked brown guys. I think that's where the preference vs fetishization question gets answered.
What was her race/ethnicity?
Even the editors disrespect Anthony!😂 10:00
They got my boy joe out here reading bra advertisements LMAO!
I think the initial physical attraction or preference isn't weird.... but when it goes beyond that (to very obvious stereotypes based on my ethic background/race), now your fetish is off putting.
To be fair Steve, the Philippines is the Mexico of Asia
Their cultures are literally identical.
Another discussion that I would love to see you guys discuss about is like the opposite of that. What’s the difference between not liking a certain aspect of a kind of people and just being racist or ableist or any other -ist.
20:07 anthony jesus christ!
Cancelled! 😂
Kinja and kinjabang noodles gone!
Going along listening to this as a semi serious discussion, then that "hello gov'ner" comment got me. 🤣🤣
I never skip Joe's Honey Love ad promo 😂
1:44 lmao everytime Anthony says something from left field, I think of the bomb gif in Nevada
I find it Men Fetish Asian woman for the stereotype of them being "Timid and easier to deal with".... and that's further from the truth. Listen i am a Ally who has lived around 80% Asian most of my life, this info comes straight from growing up in and around Asians homes, the mom and dad dynamic... BRUH momma runs the game LOOL. its very traditional. The tiger mom thing is real lol, Note Asian moms are the sweetest and nicest people to talks to, like SWEET HEARTS, BUTT!! To their children, it's a tough love, that you're gonna have to grow old and appreciate it, because i had to talk to a lot of my friends and show them they will appreciate it later on, although we can get into the nuance of allowing kids to be kids as well.
The long and short is Asian woman are beautiful and also since they are very selective with their mates, it makes it that much more of a rare situation to be in. Culturally Asian woman date seriously Asian and White men. Any other may be a one off or just a fling. so i feel like the "others" tend to fetishize because they want what they can't have, and the white people fetishize them for the factual fact that Asian woman do go for white man, and once it became a Meme or known fact, White men ran with it... off the the Philippines they go
Personally I really like Asian woman but not for the stereotypical reasons most people would think. I feel like Asian men and woman growing up since they are usually forced to denounced their childhood for the sake of a guaranteed future ( its worth it, i've seen it) someone who is forced into a corner for too long they usually find outlets to help cope with the situation. I find this is why a lot of Asian people or woman always have an amazing sense of humour ( even the shy kids), my corky stupid jokes, or even if it's realmed in reality seems to always land, and it's genuine. Also culturally being taught to want to start a family and build together is something i think nobody is complaining about. The fact that Asian woman are pretty is no different than any other race being pretty.
I think people should really look into things like cultural, social norms for Asian people and communities, understanding you are marrying the family when you marry Asian, and do not step up to pops unless you are prepared in life, They are Traditional, even when adopting progressive ideologies, and i love it
I'd argue there is a bit of a hidden conversation that needs to be had about black and asian community, but overall I got love and appreciate Asian culture. Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Philippine, Thai, Cambodian, Viet, and so many others cultures brings something different, and so much rich culture to North America. So try to take this things into account before you just assume, ShE TiMiD AnD ThEy WiLl MaKe mE A SaNdWiCh AnD SuCky SuCkY, You gon f around and find out real quick, The hunter becomes the hunted xD
Great discussion. Different angles of perception, circumstance and didn't shy away from race. As a white woman I wouldn't be very bothered of another race talking about how they love white women (or men) though it surprises me. However, I would be upset and consider it a red flag if any man referred to me or women collectively as 'females' or anything along the terms of 'vessels'. Ew! Also, a red flag if I'm speaking to another white person and they mention 'I only date white guys/girls'. I consider the possible nuances behind the sentence, give them the benefit of the doubt, (a bit reluctantly) but I make note of it in case something else pops up. Something that would make me re-evaluate whether they're the kind of person I want to be friends with.
Yeah, I'm with y'all. Not really any difference in liking the way a certain race tends to look vs. Liking blonde hair, green eyes, etc. We can't control what we like, it's mostly hormonal anyways. As long as we're respectful of others and actually trying to get to know them as individuals, and not placing people into boxes they aren't asking to be put in. ~
And the phases Joe mentioned is common with girls too, we're all changing and the things and people we're attracted to might change as well. 😂
That's not true either, if they keep it in, bc I get weird ass looks from creepy old (white) men. I feel uncomfortable asf!!
There’s definitely a lot to it but I think seeing Asians as a monolith and thinking they are all the same like how Ryan explained in the beginning is 100% a part of it
I was thinking ayy what the heck it can't be over??? 1:38 😂😂😂😂😂
Excellent discussion. Thanks guys. And now I will be trying a honeylove bra!
Listening to them say fetishization (or however you spell it😭) has made my day fr
Edits are on point 😂😂😂
I think of it as the opposite of discrimination/ racism 🤷🏽♀️
I guess what I learned from this video is that Anthony likes dancing with black chicks.
I guess that means Bart fetishizes Real Estate Girls lol 😂
People are too woke and offended by everything, I miss the before times lol 😂
Me too (no not that me too)
At least we still have this place 😂
The edit in the beginning 😂😂😂. I think you just like what you like, and that's it. I've always liked African American people. Now that I'm older, I just want a trustworthy, loyal guy. Steve pointing out that Bart had Anthony say that so he can say the fucked up thing 😂😂😂😂.
I want to marry a traditional woman. That doesn't mean that I think only east Asian women are traditional.
I really enjoy Joe advertising bras
21:30 Steve figured out the secret to life 😂😂
Joe talking about bras is the kind of integrated ad I’d only stay put for from now on. 👌
Had a girl got confused about me being asian and chinese at the same time 😂
I'm confused about how is that confusing. Haha
@LaddRusso91 thought that Asian was one race, and Chinese was another
That's hilarious
🤣🤣🤣
She got the double digits
Agree with Bart 100% a person likes what they like. Even those that are weird acting and have fetishes it’s still a thing they like. There are weird people and normal people in every aspect of life. Also i am attracted to Asian looks, find monolid eyes, and the facial bone structure absolutely beautiful men and women. I am Eastern European American blonde hair and blue eyes and i am just not attracted to men with light hair and light eyes, too common in my life, different is just so much hotter in my opinion.
Racist
how is that racist? That what they prefer.
The end cutscene after 2 mins was perfect 😂
The woke overcorrection was a manageable meme. Now its like AI we have lost all human control
anytime im asked what my type is I always respond "my type is whoever likes me as well" lmao
Being surrounded with close minded people...... By watching our lovely carefull boyz.. i have grown up as a open minded person alot ....not kidding
From Burma 🇲🇲 here let’s gooo 😂
Every race has been fetishized at one point. It just depends on who you ask.
Thank you guys, for listening to me and even addressing me!! I’m madly in love with all of you! Even the caucasoid! 😂😂😂😂
Just found out that genji dance emote is from the kinjaz
@16:30 Joe talking about himself lol
I think especially during these times, people are highly obsessed with virtue signalling and it definitely became more prevalent since cancel culture became a thing
it's the objectification that is wrong and fetishisation
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(What is Asian Fetishization?)Exploiting stereotypes in public and using an instance of quality to further entertain and broaden simple observation that may seem Asian’esc yet not normally talked about when out and about.
CAN YOU PLEASE COVER THE POISON MUSHROOM LADY STORY IN AUSTRALIA
Nope, definitely didn't learn anything from this conversation, but I did get some good laughs in. 😂
It's like this, I know y'all are trying to keep things light and funny, but I swear, when y'all have these conversations about complex issues, you should have professionals help you navigate them.
Also, different perspectives help. This conversation felt pretty one-sided because no one was there to challenge you on some of the things that were said.
Anyway, like I said, I love the show. ❤
You obviously want the female perspective so why don't you just admit that??
@@boredagain1 No, there are plenty of all female shows out, I like this show specifically because it's mostly men. But the number of times they admitted to being confused about how to even define fetishization, and the difference between fetishization and preference was clearly a call for help. Lol. Having an expert with a good sense of humor would've been beneficial.
Fetishization, all women seek high earning men who are tall and handsome. It's just a "hype word." My ex was Filipina and everyone in the Philippines what adore their daughters dating White Americans.
my 2 cents:
if someone loves me because i am black, all i have to do is ask “why?” and their answer will make it okay
it’s the specifics that help, if they just say “because you’re hot” then i dunno, i’ll still let it slide cuz im a horn dog, but if they drop specific attributes of being black or any other race that they love, then it makes it more acceptable and less problematic
My Bias Is Cute Kpop Chicks, Some Of Them Look Like Anime Characters or Asian Versions Of Precious Moments Characters.
Lmao Joe 😂😂😂
I think you can also just really feel/enjoy a culture that isn't yours. That has nothing to do with naked timez. Like how Joe likes the laid back vibes in Hawaii. Doesn't mean he wants to F every Hawaiian girl just because they're from Hawaii. Sometimes a certain culture just fits with our personality. Can we just celebrate each other's culture without people judging the F out of us?
I gotta get that Ben Davis shirtRrrrr!!!
They want to get Anthony so he’s always on JK lol
I’m not the only one who’s audio is messing up right 😅
Yes
anthony looks faded lol
"You know girls with long legs are dumb"
-- Joe 😂😂
Women who were like omg he thinks I’m hot because I’m Asian. Do you prefer someone who just thinks you’re not hot because you’re Asian? 😂 he thinks you’re hot, be happy 😂. I can’t even count how many times I had men say I was a hot Latina woman, and I said thank you 😂 it’s a compliment.
It probably depends on who you ask.
Anthony seem tense asf
We need STEVE ON THE STREETS @4:45 ! It should be a jk series
Its ok for good looking people
Folks really just wanna virtue signal like it’s a damn competition sometimes. Poor commenter dude likes what he likes, respectfully!
Ello gov’na 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Steve is wild
Steve is definitely a wild boy
1:37 😂🫰🏼
Steve Filipinas are Mexican adjacent though, i think. Lol
The only thing that should matter is how you end up in a dysfunctional relationship. Anything else is woke bs
bro wtf was bart tryna say with that police thing 😂😂
i mean anthony*
lol omg that was hilarious. They keep trying to "trap" Anthony into saying something outrages for the shorts and reels. 🤣🤣
just keep hitting that brightness for the screen... 🤣
@@bethnichols2875it's a inside joke between anthony and the careful boyz
@@Mr-pn2eh I am well aware of that, that is why I said it.😏
We were at this party, mostly us asians, and this wanna be DJ guy opens up his laptop and there like 20 tabs of Asian p*rn lol. It was awkaward and dude never came around again 😅
Did he pull that up on purpose or did he forget to close the tabs and was like, "oh crap"
Anthony is the only one who ever has logical answers...the rest are always just spewing subjective viewpoints that puts them at the same level of what they're argument is originally about.
If you don't want to spew subjective viewpoints, why not open up into looking into both side of the arguments instead of just one-sided. For me I can see why this was viewed as fetishization. E.G., what do you think would happen if you walked into the hood in Inglewood or Crenshaw and said, "I love Black people?" Do you think they would take offense to that and why? If you objectify a race, it does sound pretty offensive, if not weird. If you like a race of peoples for whatever reason, that reason should be your case in point, instead of just flat out saying I love this race, because it doesn't have any point in value, hence objectifying or fetishization can be pointed out as the case here. This is mainly for Ryan, although some of the others have a share in it too, but you shouldn't slander your own kind and then try to justify it with subjective opinions, because you become a lower intellectual being than those you are arguing about, making your argument irrelevant to theirs. It's a debate that goes no where. That's my two cents.
I’m new to the channel btw, I don’t know their names yet but is Anthony the Hispanic dude with the beard?
@@supercal3944 No, that guy is you Ryan!😝
All of it is just ignorance.
i’ll dance with u at a club anthony lee but ur wife has to be okay with im also a dancer 👊🏾
There is a race of women, im not going to name names because people get their feelings hurt, but there is a race of women that are pursued by men around the world.....and ive never heard them complain or call it being fetishied. Which just adds another reason to why they are my favorite as well. They dont care if you dont exclusively date them either.
15:22 steve knows wtf is up.
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Passport bros arent fetishizing. They find girls in cultures that fit their type. Girls in northamerica are different than girls in eastern europe and in asia.
My whole life I've dated all the colors of the rainbow (even women) but I've always only been in long term relationships with blonde hair and blue eyed men. And now I have a baby with one. So I guess I have a type
The thing is you guys are really young and you guys didn't really see that whole fetishizing Asian thing happen way back in the in the early '80s.
We in 2023. The ones that used to do that can barely make out an Asian girl from a fridge. Move on and pick up some positivity.
All these guys are nearly 40. What are you talking about?
lol i just watch big trouble in little China for the first time and i think i can empathize with you 😅😂🤣
@@Max25670 I'm 48 and I am talking about when I was about 5 to 6 years old. Are you Asian?
Lol bro I’ll take that as a compliment 😂
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Had a dude at a hookup app tell me “I wish you’re Japanese instead” because of his fetishist ideals about Japanese men being kinky AF. Lol. Totally missed out. He probably doesn’t know what Filipinos can do and how well we do it. 🐒
Yes hot ppl complain. They still want to feel seen for who they are, not what they look like
words i can't pronounce without hesitating: rivalry, and now fetishization
Lets not pretend its just as common for people to marry for money in the US. I might be wrong but i think the "passport bro movement" is about western women being less feminine/traditional than eastern women.