QRS CW QSO - Remember to slow down!

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  • čas přidán 12. 02. 2022
  • Always remember to slow down your sending, when asked by the other operator (QRS). Even if asked twice to slow down even more. If we are patient and carry on through the QSO, we give each other the opportunity to learn. Remember that we've been slower before and through the courtesy of faster ops, we were able to grow. Thanks Alberto DK3AR for the contact. Your magloop works very well here. 73 de Adam SQ5VCO
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Komentáře • 95

  • @alanlubanes8048
    @alanlubanes8048 Před 2 lety +79

    Always remember the other way of slowing down: more space between characters and words. For those of us who learned by the Farnsworth method, this is more useful than lower character speeds.

    • @AdamSQ5VCO
      @AdamSQ5VCO  Před rokem +8

      Yes, I do that often. It helps slower ops to get used to faster code, but with a bit of slack on the spacing, instead of slowing down. That's what makes the QSO a learning experience of another variety. I also do that sometimes for non-standard words and names.

    • @Isochest
      @Isochest Před rokem +2

      Agreed/Cytuno/

    • @lmaoroflcopter
      @lmaoroflcopter Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​@@Isochest😮 Cymraeg!

    • @kevinduffy80
      @kevinduffy80 Před 7 měsíci +3

      In my case it was more of ZBM2 (Put a competent operator on this circuit) 😂😂

    • @JonathanAdami
      @JonathanAdami Před 3 měsíci +3

      YES! this! slower characters make my brain melt, but more space between characters and words make it clearer, hands down!

  • @TheTreegodfather
    @TheTreegodfather Před rokem +19

    Nothing more irritating than when I'm sending CQ at like 20 and some speed demon replies at 50. Brother I'm not that fast, if I was I'd have been sending my CQ faster.

  • @ralphnunn3
    @ralphnunn3 Před 2 lety +44

    Yes, please. For new CW OPs (like me), QRS always helps. I can totally relate to DK3AR. It can get nerve-racking trying to decode someone who's going too fast. You want to try to capture everything that's being said, but it can be difficult. So, thanks to everyone who responds to QRS requests to slow down (like Adam did here). DE K7RLN

  • @DrHWO
    @DrHWO Před 2 lety +22

    QRS PSE has become my most fluent phrase! Learning to use it has helped with my anxiety!!

    • @Francois_Dupont
      @Francois_Dupont Před měsícem +2

      i dont get why it is not automatic for faster guys to slow down to the speed of the other person. if i send at 20WPM you dont continue to send @30WPM.

    • @ColtonRMagby
      @ColtonRMagby Před měsícem

      ​@@Francois_DupontNot everyone knows you're transmitting what you can understand right away because not everyone is familliar with who you are and where your progress is.

  • @karenh2737
    @karenh2737 Před rokem +14

    I think we all can send faster than we can copy CW, especially when using a keyer. I found out early on that you never send faster than you want to have sent back to you! I’m getting back into ham radio after 20 years away. I’ve been listening to lots of QSOs to build up my confidence to jump back on the bands…. CW exclusively.

    • @AdamSQ5VCO
      @AdamSQ5VCO  Před rokem +1

      Actually when I was around 25-28wpm I could copy faster than I could send nicely, but now I'm about even at 30-32wpm. I don't feel the need to go faster, as there are not many ops to work with anyway much above 25wpm. Recently in CQWW CW I was at 32wpm and it was super easy to copy callsigns, if you work 30wpm every day in ragchews.

  • @danielgiraud2192
    @danielgiraud2192 Před 11 dny

    Thanks for that. 73 de ZS5DG.

  • @TeologiaArtesanal
    @TeologiaArtesanal Před 2 lety +8

    Thanks for that! It's the right thing, it's ethical and polite. You're a great operator Adam!

  • @miketaylor6700
    @miketaylor6700 Před 10 měsíci

    That was fantastic!!! Thanks for recording that QSO!

  • @MichaelRisser
    @MichaelRisser Před 2 lety +6

    Awesome job. Thank you for your patience with the other op. 73 de KG6ECW

  • @michaelt.9372
    @michaelt.9372 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Thank you for the subtitles!

  • @UB1WBY
    @UB1WBY Před rokem +1

    Awesome job! Thanks for the video! 73

  • @ellisc.foleyjr9778
    @ellisc.foleyjr9778 Před rokem +8

    Great Video Adam, and kudos for taking the time to show that QRS, is a God send to any op new or old. I've been doing CW since 1961, and have gone full circle. never been a devout cw op but love it just the same. and got my speed up to 30+ wpm and now on the way back down I'm comfortable near 20 wpm but still have days the old brain just doesn't work and I've swallowed my pride and asked the op to QRS. and 99% of them do. thanks to good ops I can still enjoy a qso. even if you don't slow the keyer down. but just space out the characters can help if your speed is moderate (25-35wpm) can still be copied if there is a good spacing to give the op time to grab it. thanks for sharing and 73 gud dx de Ellis WA1RKS

  • @learnhamradio
    @learnhamradio Před rokem +2

    Nice job slowing down for the other op. This is why I love my cootie - no need to look through menus to change speeds 🙂

    • @AdamSQ5VCO
      @AdamSQ5VCO  Před rokem +2

      I need to get a straight key finally. Then I'll be like 13wpm and sloppy ;-)

  • @Vladimir_Radio-Master
    @Vladimir_Radio-Master Před 2 lety +3

    Nice Job! 👍 TNX! 🙋‍♂

  • @JonathanAdami
    @JonathanAdami Před 3 měsíci

    This is so cool... thanks so much for this video, seeing someone struggle like I would (still better level than mine) is giving me a bit of motivation to try my first QSO, I'm so scared I won't be able to understand, I can code alright I think, probably not clean but still, after listening to a bit my brain decides to just give up! lol I need training I guess lol anyway thanks for the video! much appreciated

  • @petermajor4599
    @petermajor4599 Před rokem +1

    Thank you so much🍀🍭👋

  • @Tjita1
    @Tjita1 Před rokem

    This is really cool!

  • @ColtonRMagby
    @ColtonRMagby Před měsícem

    Always set a character speed of 20-25 and a Farnsworth speed of 15 and back off as needed. You can speed up as you get better, but save the higher speed for someone you know is learning with you and is at the same pace. Not a requirement, but a damn good suggestion.

  • @Windmill97
    @Windmill97 Před 2 lety +2

    A CW rock star.

  • @alvarogaitan2529
    @alvarogaitan2529 Před rokem +1

    Hi Adam fantastic video thanks very much 73 from kb2uew

  • @turinskiboy
    @turinskiboy Před 2 lety

    Thanks for sharing.

  • @radioredoctober
    @radioredoctober Před 3 měsíci +1

    My fav. is CW 100 / 100 .. good job !

  • @DC-gv4cw
    @DC-gv4cw Před měsícem

    All in all, I think it's better keying slower and the message is fully understood. Too much operators want go so fast that they do with a lot of mistakes.

  • @georgeetherege8347
    @georgeetherege8347 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Ditto re character spacing… we up and coming, frustrated potential speedsters, have been told to start out with high character creeds. I can’t copy code faster than 13 wpm but I need the character speed at 20 or greater because I CAN’T “count dits and dahs, at any speed. 73 de W3GX / QRS

  • @kn6eze
    @kn6eze Před rokem +5

    Great fist and operator etiquette! All too often I see CW QSO videos with operators recording their horribly spaced keying for the world to see, as if it something to be proud of 🤦🏻‍♂️. Usually those ops are operating at higher speeds and somewhere along the way correct spacing went out the window. Better to slow down and clean up the slop before proceeding to higher speeds, IMHO.
    73, Mike

  • @SQ5TK
    @SQ5TK Před rokem +3

    No i tak powinno być. Operatorzy CW zwykle przejawiają wyższą kulturę i cierpliwość choć czasem zdarzy się ktoś narwany.

  • @tomaszwisniewski4797
    @tomaszwisniewski4797 Před měsícem

    Chciałbym być tak biegłym, ale dopiero zaczynam przygodę. Może się nauczę jak już dostanę upragnione pozwolenie. 73

  • @UpcomingChris
    @UpcomingChris Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm a new ham, I can send at 25+ wpm fine, but it still takes time to process incoming, i find it much easier if people just leave more of a gap between letters, so my mind can catch up and not get lost, even hearing 25wpm, takes no longer to figure out the letter than 12wpm, it's just the gap between is important.

  • @dl7un
    @dl7un Před rokem

    Thank you for your video. Longer pauses help me more than slower tempos with plain text. With practice software I manage about 34 WPM, but it's no use to me with plain text, hi 73 de Bruno

    • @AdamSQ5VCO
      @AdamSQ5VCO  Před rokem

      Exactly, I use the spacing when I'm too lazy to dive into the menu of FT891 to go QRS, haha ;-)

  • @hcy0
    @hcy0 Před 2 lety +6

    Your QRS is still quite fast ...

    • @donbrown2047
      @donbrown2047 Před rokem +1

      I agree....it seemed like only a slight reduction. But I'm still new to re-learning CW after 44 years without practice.....

    • @AdamSQ5VCO
      @AdamSQ5VCO  Před rokem +1

      I reduced to somewhere near the speed of the station, if it was to fast still, he would have asked again for QRS. Going from 50wpm to 40wpm is still QRS, which means as you well know "reduce your speed" not "send slow".

  • @sirius6635
    @sirius6635 Před rokem

    Класс! Просто CW QSO, что может быть лучше?)))) Какой длинны у Вас антенна Endfed?

  • @daveperry7719
    @daveperry7719 Před 3 měsíci +2

    QRZ with no question mark after it means . "You are being called by...........". with the question mark it means, "who is calling me"??, - you should be using it otherwise you might get called a lid.

    • @AdamSQ5VCO
      @AdamSQ5VCO  Před 3 měsíci +1

      Yes, you are right. I am aware of that fact and usually use it properly, here must have become distracted

  • @hl1sb_Philip-Yu
    @hl1sb_Philip-Yu Před rokem +1

    Hi! Adam de HL1SB from Korea,, Please let me know how did you make a synchronized subtitle to your keying. I'm really curious about it!

    • @AdamSQ5VCO
      @AdamSQ5VCO  Před rokem

      Hello. They are input by hand in the video editor and the subtitle effect is set to "Typewriter" effect mode. I use Filmora X for my editing. I will make a video about this one day hopefully.

  • @Sergio-ta3krt
    @Sergio-ta3krt Před 6 měsíci

    What does R or RR Or EE or UU (somethin like that) mean?

  • @stevewarner8880
    @stevewarner8880 Před rokem +1

    I’m a bug user but have a straight key hooked parallel. I know I can use the dah side of the bug as a straight key but I have lots of good straight keys to use so why not? If I need to QRS I’m more than happy to do so.
    73 . .

  • @charlesfritzii8991
    @charlesfritzii8991 Před 8 měsíci

    Who makes the cw paddle?

  • @BrightBlueJim
    @BrightBlueJim Před 8 měsíci

    Even with the transcription on the screen, I have no idea what they are saying.

  • @chaugen1
    @chaugen1 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the video! Can you tell me what your QSO loggers are on your computer that you showed around 8:55?

  • @PT7BT
    @PT7BT Před rokem +2

    gosto muito dos vídeos um incentivo pra mim fazer cw PT7BT FT73

  • @popeyesheng310
    @popeyesheng310 Před 2 lety

    It's really difficult to cache a couple of letters in mind.

    • @AdamSQ5VCO
      @AdamSQ5VCO  Před 2 lety +4

      With time you won't think about it. I'm licensed for 2 years only. It only takes everyday practice, even if it's a solid 5 minutes.

  • @movecizetodobryfilm
    @movecizetodobryfilm Před 11 měsíci

    Hej, mam pytanie. Jak najlepiej zaczac uczyc sie nadawac po ogarnięciu odbierania znakow po melodii? Czy od razu wejsc w manipulator dwudzwigniowy czy zaczac od klucza sztorcowego?

    • @AdamSQ5VCO
      @AdamSQ5VCO  Před 11 měsíci

      Wedlug mnie to sa oddzielne drogi. Jakbys chcial grac na gitarze albo na skrzypcach. To nie jest tak, ze nauczysz sie na sztorcu, a potem „wejdziesz na nastepny poziom dwudzwigniowego”. Ja bym Ci radzil zaczac od dwudzwigniowego, zeby zaczac jak najszybciej robic QSO, to znacznie zmotywuje Cie do szlifowania znajomosci CW. Sztorca mozna dorzucic jako ciekawostke pozniej, jak ustabilizujesz 20 WPM co najmniej w odbiorze i nadawaniu.

    • @movecizetodobryfilm
      @movecizetodobryfilm Před 11 měsíci

      @@AdamSQ5VCO O super, dzięki za cenne info 👍 Pomimo pewnych podobienstw domyślam się, że sztorcowy a man2dzwign to dwie oddzielne drogi. Tak samo jak wprawny CW operator na słuch pewnie by nic lub niewiele odebrał z błysków kodu morsea światłem. Taka dygresja. A wracając do manipulatora. Polecasz kupić gotowca, czy można zacząć na samodzielnym dobrze zrobionym? Dodam, że od lat hobbystycznie zajmuje się elektroniką, a także wieloma różnymi sprawami technicznymi. Solidna konstrukcja, styki z przekaznika, regulacje skoków na połączeniach gwintowych itd to nie problem, natomiast może są w kluczach jakies patenty typu wymiar, długość ramienia łopatek do ręki itd i na 99% lepiej użyć sprawdzonego gotowca? No i jak lepiej ustawić kropkę i kreskę? Czy od lewej kropka, prawa kreska, czy odwrotnie, a może to nie ma znaczenia, bo jak się uczymy to i tak nabywany to z czasem lub zależy od indywidualnych preferencji? I ostatnie pytanie jesli mogę - czy da się podłączyć manipulator przez jack3,5mm do kompa i jakimś programem ćwiczyć formowanie liter oraz słów kluczem? Pozdrawiam, 73

  • @radeks7875
    @radeks7875 Před 2 lety +2

    cześć, co to za log?

  • @098317
    @098317 Před 2 lety +4

    QRZ? = Who is calling me?
    QRZ = you are being called by...............

  • @user-zk2yd6xm8s
    @user-zk2yd6xm8s Před 25 dny

    Many send faster than they can copy hihi

  • @sshaw37
    @sshaw37 Před rokem +1

    Still a bit quick for me!

    • @AdamSQ5VCO
      @AdamSQ5VCO  Před rokem +1

      All in good time. Keep up practicing :-)

  • @mokeyaaaaaaaaa
    @mokeyaaaaaaaaa Před rokem +2

    bro did not slow down at all hes like 10 wpm and ur still at 25

  • @movecizetodobryfilm
    @movecizetodobryfilm Před 4 měsíci +1

    PWR = Power, a co to jest 1 TTW? 1Wat? Czy coś innego? Moze skoro zera są dlugie ----- to 1TT oznacza 100?

    • @AdamSQ5VCO
      @AdamSQ5VCO  Před 4 měsíci

      Tak, poczytaj o Cut Numbers: T = 0 N = 9 A = A, these are used mostly in contests, but sometimes in QSOs also. 1TT for 100W is what I hear 90% of the time

    • @movecizetodobryfilm
      @movecizetodobryfilm Před 4 měsíci

      @@AdamSQ5VCO O elegancko! Poczytam! Mam pytanie, pewnie to jest tak, że już po czasie nie słyszysz samych liter, ale całe brzmienia słów, tzn skrótów. Jak na początku się załapie CQ i to potem inne kody Q itd i już po czasie tak samo się automatycznie z łapy nadaje tak i słucha holistycznie, tak jest?

    • @AdamSQ5VCO
      @AdamSQ5VCO  Před 4 měsíci

      @@movecizetodobryfilm tam jest kilka mechanizmow, zwykle slyszy sie zbitki liter, krotsze slowa, czasem jest tak, ze trzeba nadganiac i sie domyslac co bylo, czasem sie wydaje, ze kilka slow przelecialo bez zrozumienia i nagle klik, tresc jest, a czasem ma sie wrazenie, ze mozg pracuje tak szybko ze nadaza literowac (to rozkladanie slow na litery to zaczyna byc problem przy szybkim nadawaniu). Musze film o tym zrobic

    • @movecizetodobryfilm
      @movecizetodobryfilm Před 4 měsíci

      @@AdamSQ5VCO OK 👍A dostrzegłeś może, że po nauce CW w życiu coś się zmieniło? Mam na myśli pracę umysłu, że inne rzeczy lepiej Ci przychodzą, koncentracja, werbalna sfera itd?

    • @AdamSQ5VCO
      @AdamSQ5VCO  Před 4 měsíci +1

      CW nauczylo mnie, ze bedac systematyczym, zanurzajac sie w temacie (przez np. ogladanie filmikow) i cwiczac codziennie, chocby 10 minut efekty przychodza same. Teraz sie ucze grac na piano i dokladnie czuje ten sam mechanizm, jednego dnia nie umiem, potem nagle cyk i jest skok do przodu.

  • @Redhawk03a
    @Redhawk03a Před rokem +1

    Jeez this is slowing down ?

    • @AdamSQ5VCO
      @AdamSQ5VCO  Před rokem +1

      Slowed down as much as needed to be understood. Apparently, it worked.

    • @Redhawk03a
      @Redhawk03a Před rokem

      @@AdamSQ5VCO Indeed. More a reflection on my limited copy speed vs your skill. Great video and thanks. 73 de W6DAC

  • @shadowcat314
    @shadowcat314 Před 5 měsíci

    -.

  • @williambrooks6629
    @williambrooks6629 Před 10 měsíci

    I don't see the point in high speed cw on amateur bands. It's not as if hams have to clear a backlog of traffic. The old maxim was, "send at the speed of the receiving operator". Nobody is fooling anyone here. Most of that fast cw comes from automatic keyers. Anyone can use those.

    • @AdamSQ5VCO
      @AdamSQ5VCO  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Fast and slow are subjective. If everyone stuck to 10 WPM (which faster ops can slow down to, if needed), having a real conversation like on SSB would be super hard, mind you that normal speech is 100-200 WPM, so even fast CW 30 WPM is quite slow in transferring information. I would be quite frustrating telling someone about your new antenna or radio, when it lasts 15 minutes instead of 5.

    • @williambrooks6629
      @williambrooks6629 Před 10 měsíci

      @@AdamSQ5VCO Point taken

  • @user-kv6lz1lh2c
    @user-kv6lz1lh2c Před 16 dny

    Thanks de HL1MVK