All that aside, can we appreciate how nice and wholesome Wolfgang's coaching comments can be? He's literally showing support for whoever he's coaching and tries to inspire them, like how he says "Believe in yourself, like Wolfgang believes in you!" or "Yes! You can do it!" Really goes to show his character, he may be a strong man, but he wishes to inspire others and help them reach their goals.
@@gayfrogs6985honestly his was the most needed, otherwise he’s just the most boring character in the game. At first you had to manage hunger which was a challenge early game or in pub servers. But after the rework he just had to hold a button for a minute and then hold another button for a bit.
It’s hilarious that everyone called Wolfgang’s tree simple and boring but the most complex ability in the entire update, the whistle, got completely overlooked! Thanks DVG! I’m gonna set out to be the best Coachgang
I think its fine if spamming whistle will be fixed cause it still is a really strong buff that is pretty situational, since, well, wolfgang can hit things very hard already and coaching wastes time :D Also wanna add that skill trees like this seem pretty good, they are all pretty simple, mostly just made to spice up character playing and add new strategies, like, wolfgang had all those dumb bells he could throw and that was only useful for like, killing birds? Now he can try it out with new bells! Or just get himself more power and not think about it if he wants to, same story as dumbells with whistle.
Yo your channel is so underrated. You're super informative and you go straight to the point. Quickly you've become one of my favourite dst content creators!
Interesting, Wolfgang is definitely not the character who needed a buff-ability this powerful, but for how specific and situational it is it think its fine, hopefully wigfrid gets a comparable buff that's weaker but last longer since it would be a song. Or she could just get a song that makes people do lightning damage that works too.
@@thewitchidolsachika6682 it would be interesting to see if they ad songs that take up multiple song slots since as of now all of them take 1 or have a cooldown. I doubt crafting it would be particularly expensive but this could be a way of balancing it.
@@BeastnodeG I'm guessing the intent was to give Wolfgang some team play and to make him ever so slightly more complex. alternatively it could be to incentivize more players to stay normal which coincides with the skill right underneath this one.
I play with friends and we always went Wurt, Wigfrid, Maxwell and Wolfgang Before this update Wolfgang was just tanking, he had NO synergy Now we have absolutely strong merms with x2 damage, wigfrid helmets and bosses can't even reach them
So to always have the buff active: 1. First Whistle: After 7 seconds, Wolfgang's motivation/clap starts 1st Buff. 2. 3 seconds after start of 1st Buff: Deactivate/activate for the 2nd Whistle. After 7 seconds (when 1st Buff ends), 2nd Buff starts. 3. From then on, you only have to Whistle (deactivate/activate) every 10 seconds since the last Whistle. (A mod to toggle auto-doing this would be great!)
Rooks work pretty weird if they just ram smth they do 200 dmg but if he uses his targeted atack they do 45 damage also the player is imune to that 200 dmg because it would be too op
Pretty sure the reason damaged rook is sometimes only doing 90 dmg with coaching buff is because the rooks actually have a melee swing (which I learnt the hard way while fooling around as maxwell) which does significantly less damage, that’s why without the buff sometimes the rook just does 45 instead of 200dmg and why it sometimes does 90 instead of 400. I’ll admit rook’s melee swing is definitely a bit finicky in when it decides to perform it, you didn’t break the rook with the coaching whistle
Thats a good thought but i don't think thats the case. The 45 damage the rook does is supposed to be player only while mobs take 200 damage Its kind of like how bosses do double damage to mobs but in reverse
That tends to be only half though. And I know for a fact that rooks have a melee swing. All of em. It’s most noticeable on the AG but you’ll see the damaged rooks and regular ones do it too, it’s just harder to tell because it looks like they charged for a half second. I’ve only seen it do a melee when I get cocky trying to swing it too much, or if I’m standing directly in front of it.
he can only get like 750 on plannar creatures using the whole goat jelly too. But the fact he can get all creatures to do double damage its much more damage than he can get by himself.
I really liked both wolf and woodies skilltre to the point I consider them almost perfectly balanced in power and viability. To be honest, the one i waited the most is wormwood, to find it not THAT great. Some upgrades feel redundant and a bit weird cosidering his focus on farming. I believe the fertilizers could be upgraded to restore an actual useful skill like come on 2 per manure? and it takes forever to do the animation, I think it sould be good enough to actually provide an alternative to sleeping, his lunar afinitty is cool but I dont really see necessary to give him combat based abilities since most players wont be focusing in combat and the summons are quite worse than the natural mobs. The carrats do not give leafy meat, the lightbug die over time and cannot be catched or released to light up the base like natural ones asn well they can be killed easily by other mobs, and saladmanders dont appear to be appealing allies like wicker bees, spiders or merms and i think he needs to craft stone fruit (because hes from the moon duh) the fly trap skill is useless and the bee upgrade should make killer bees neutral to you and let you harvest honey from natural bee hives and built ones with no bees annoying you.
Has anyone tried this with bunnymen vs beequeen? My goal for my Wolfgang run is to setup a minimal bunny farm vs Bee Queen. Something like 20 bunnies which isn't bad at all for my lazy style (that's only 2 deconstruction staffs and 4 construction amulets).
@@DVGMedia1 Oh, because there is people showing moose doing like 816 against tree guards and kills it with 3 hits only, someone e in game said he can reach 906 but I don't I never tested by myself, I play as Woodie aways, but the others with Warly they leave when winter comes.
@@DVGMedia1 I understood, his whistle doesn't apply to players, so I can buff a catcoon, even hounds if we use hound whistle from Varg's year event active, the worse is their loyalty is short and become dangerous to buff and the attack you instead of a target. You should investigate these thing, if you discovery something curious you can show on a new video.
@@augusonictheracoon5279 there was one I was testing which was the pig coin from the pig King for some reason it does not count as a follower despite the game saying it is a follower if it was a follower though you could do the Mini-Game and summon the pigs and they do about 2,000 damage for the 10 seconds they are summoned but sadly that's not the case
Wait. Does the player riding the Beefalo need to dismount, blow the horn and remount to get the Whistle buff? Or can Wolfgang just blow the horn while they're still mounted to make the Beefalo a follower?
they have to get off the beefalo and blow the horn then mount. while mounted though the buff will activate for 20 seconds. since thats how long beefalos are considered a follower for
@@DVGMedia1 Hmm... So the horn does nothing while you're mounted? That makes it... somewhat questionable how good the trick is, then. I'm sure the Rider doesn't want to have to keep dismounting during a fight if they can help it. But I would have to try it to say for sure.
@@Randoman590 that's why I think it's better for a teammate to be writing the Beefalo cuz you only need to apply the following of the horn once and you can get 20 seconds of double damage. In all honesty I don't know how effective this would be in practice but it is a funny thing that is possible
they don't get the follower tag When you feed a beefalo they kind of get a different ai while they have domestication. they will approach players and such But don't become an actual follower.
@@MaxwellE985 Just because other characters don't have skill trees doesn't make Wilson not special. After all, he's the only character with transmutation, and the only one that can store food in his beard. The beauty of skill trees is that they all provide something very different.
All that aside, can we appreciate how nice and wholesome Wolfgang's coaching comments can be? He's literally showing support for whoever he's coaching and tries to inspire them, like how he says "Believe in yourself, like Wolfgang believes in you!" or "Yes! You can do it!"
Really goes to show his character, he may be a strong man, but he wishes to inspire others and help them reach their goals.
This always seem to be in his character, in single player he regrets hurting pigmen where as most others just use generic attack quotes
I like how simple Wolfgang’s skill tree is tbh
I mean to be fair out of the three his was definitely the least needed and also the least interesting
@@gayfrogs6985 Simple skill tree for a simple man
@@gayfrogs6985honestly his was the most needed, otherwise he’s just the most boring character in the game.
At first you had to manage hunger which was a challenge early game or in pub servers. But after the rework he just had to hold a button for a minute and then hold another button for a bit.
@@sanga1380 sure he was boring but compared to worm wood definitely not and he didn’t need it he was plenty visible without it unlike woodie
@@sanga1380 not to mention you kinda just described dst combat
Wurt and Wolfgang synergy is op
It’s hilarious that everyone called Wolfgang’s tree simple and boring but the most complex ability in the entire update, the whistle, got completely overlooked! Thanks DVG! I’m gonna set out to be the best Coachgang
You can see it's only worth the hustle with wurt and webber
its because it's actually worthless, on paper it sounds great, but if for example i play alone it's just worthless, miserly because followers are dumb
@@countsudoku6305 it’s not made for playing alone. If you want to get value out of playing Wolfgang alone just play him regularly lmao
I love these skilltrees, their style itself fits the identities of the characters very well
I think its fine if spamming whistle will be fixed cause it still is a really strong buff that is pretty situational, since, well, wolfgang can hit things very hard already and coaching wastes time :D
Also wanna add that skill trees like this seem pretty good, they are all pretty simple, mostly just made to spice up character playing and add new strategies, like, wolfgang had all those dumb bells he could throw and that was only useful for like, killing birds? Now he can try it out with new bells! Or just get himself more power and not think about it if he wants to, same story as dumbells with whistle.
Yo your channel is so underrated. You're super informative and you go straight to the point. Quickly you've become one of my favourite dst content creators!
As a Webber main who usually plays with a Wolfgang, I will force him to never be mighty a single time
Interesting, Wolfgang is definitely not the character who needed a buff-ability this powerful, but for how specific and situational it is it think its fine, hopefully wigfrid gets a comparable buff that's weaker but last longer since it would be a song.
Or she could just get a song that makes people do lightning damage that works too.
Lightning damage for a song is insane, I can't even imagine how expensive that craft needs to be.
@@thewitchidolsachika6682a goat horn each music sheet
you know now that you mention it
why is wolfgang getting this when this is kinda wigfrids schtick
@@thewitchidolsachika6682 it would be interesting to see if they ad songs that take up multiple song slots since as of now all of them take 1 or have a cooldown.
I doubt crafting it would be particularly expensive but this could be a way of balancing it.
@@BeastnodeG I'm guessing the intent was to give Wolfgang some team play and to make him ever so slightly more complex. alternatively it could be to incentivize more players to stay normal which coincides with the skill right underneath this one.
Its amazing on how dirt cheap it is, and it requires 1 skill tree point.
You are assuming we gave friends to use this information
The good thing is you don't need any
@@DVGMedia1 hello
@@Lightcyanmedia hello?
Me cyan craft
@@Lightcyanmedia yes indeed you are
I play with friends and we always went Wurt, Wigfrid, Maxwell and Wolfgang
Before this update Wolfgang was just tanking, he had NO synergy
Now we have absolutely strong merms with x2 damage, wigfrid helmets and bosses can't even reach them
damn doubling the damage of 30 merms is gonna be op.
As a maxwell main, I felt threatened when I saw Wolfgang's whistle
tbh i didnt even understand what the whistle did before watching this! might try to use this if i ever get a chance
So to always have the buff active:
1. First Whistle: After 7 seconds, Wolfgang's motivation/clap starts 1st Buff.
2. 3 seconds after start of 1st Buff: Deactivate/activate for the 2nd Whistle. After 7 seconds (when 1st Buff ends), 2nd Buff starts.
3. From then on, you only have to Whistle (deactivate/activate) every 10 seconds since the last Whistle. (A mod to toggle auto-doing this would be great!)
Actually using this effectivly is very hard so i think its not op. Just good.
does this work with maxwell shadows? would be absolutely broken if it does
See thats what i was concerned about if it can affect followers you don't own but i did not expect beefalos to be affected thats so cool
Ive noticed that other players can blow Wolfgang's whistle as well, what does it do?
Nothing sadly just a fun interaction
I hope they make a mod to make the whistle be a custom sound effect
Rooks work pretty weird if they just ram smth they do 200 dmg but if he uses his targeted atack they do 45 damage also the player is imune to that 200 dmg because it would be too op
honestly i wouldnt doubt if someone used this for a video idea
Thank you for this knowledge. I could not find specifics on the whistles' power and abilities.
me a webber mian hearing that wolfgang can buff followers: i sleep
me hearing that the buff aslo applies to followers of other players: REAL SHIT
I still don't get why he has this skill it would make more sense for wigfrid to have something likw this a song perhaps
if this worked with mighty wolfgang it'd be even more insane, but being limited to normal is pretty detrimental imo
Yesterday i seen a Wolfgang trying out the coaching skill. We found out Wolfgang can coach in his sleep pretty funny
Pretty sure the reason damaged rook is sometimes only doing 90 dmg with coaching buff is because the rooks actually have a melee swing (which I learnt the hard way while fooling around as maxwell) which does significantly less damage, that’s why without the buff sometimes the rook just does 45 instead of 200dmg and why it sometimes does 90 instead of 400. I’ll admit rook’s melee swing is definitely a bit finicky in when it decides to perform it, you didn’t break the rook with the coaching whistle
Thats a good thought but i don't think thats the case.
The 45 damage the rook does is supposed to be player only while mobs take 200 damage
Its kind of like how bosses do double damage to mobs but in reverse
That tends to be only half though. And I know for a fact that rooks have a melee swing. All of em. It’s most noticeable on the AG but you’ll see the damaged rooks and regular ones do it too, it’s just harder to tell because it looks like they charged for a half second. I’ve only seen it do a melee when I get cocky trying to swing it too much, or if I’m standing directly in front of it.
@@DVGMedia1
Does it works with hondious shootius or catapults? they are technically allies.
Its also op if you get woody since he gets increased time with followers.
I got the most recent animation as an add
I was wondering if Wolfgang's whistle worked with followers that weren't his own, thanks!
Btw you can do more damage to 100% wet dragon fly. Because DF can become more wet
Did this account for beefalo attack canceling?
Wolfgang can get 800damage/swing, making him an 1600 DPS monster.
he can only get like 750 on plannar creatures using the whole goat jelly too.
But the fact he can get all creatures to do double damage its much more damage than he can get by himself.
Can you buff wickerbottom's bees? Does the buff remain if you go mighty when its active?
I think those do count as followers so they should be affected
The dst player base saying that something its Op because If you use with other 102 Op things it can do Op things is really boring
The power of combos
I really liked both wolf and woodies skilltre to the point I consider them almost perfectly balanced in power and viability. To be honest, the one i waited the most is wormwood, to find it not THAT great. Some upgrades feel redundant and a bit weird cosidering his focus on farming. I believe the fertilizers could be upgraded to restore an actual useful skill like come on 2 per manure? and it takes forever to do the animation, I think it sould be good enough to actually provide an alternative to sleeping, his lunar afinitty is cool but I dont really see necessary to give him combat based abilities since most players wont be focusing in combat and the summons are quite worse than the natural mobs. The carrats do not give leafy meat, the lightbug die over time and cannot be catched or released to light up the base like natural ones asn well they can be killed easily by other mobs, and saladmanders dont appear to be appealing allies like wicker bees, spiders or merms and i think he needs to craft stone fruit (because hes from the moon duh) the fly trap skill is useless and the bee upgrade should make killer bees neutral to you and let you harvest honey from natural bee hives and built ones with no bees annoying you.
is that abigail at 2:29 ? what is that skin and is it possible to obtain it?
Pretty sure that's a workshop mod
It's a mod named abby skin mod it skins abby to what Wendy is wearing
Has anyone tried this with bunnymen vs beequeen? My goal for my Wolfgang run is to setup a minimal bunny farm vs Bee Queen. Something like 20 bunnies which isn't bad at all for my lazy style (that's only 2 deconstruction staffs and 4 construction amulets).
Can wolfgang increase maxwell shadow puppets dmg?
I don't think they count as followers anymore old school maxwell would have buffs
Creo que también da a los jugadores cercanos 5 de cordura si la cordura del jugador esta por debajo del 75% de cordura máxima.
A reason to use the whistle! Say less
people by pass his skill because it needs wolfgang to be less aggressive and people dont like doing suport task only hitting things
Does coaching work on maxwell's shadows?
Ok so... Wurt - folgang combo its now super biable(?
Buff works with Waxwell puppet ?
okay but can it buff catipults/houndius?
It might it depends on if they are followers
@@DVGMedia1 hmmm, they technically are followers, im gonna test it in the morning (timezones lol)
@@DVGMedia1 i tested, and i couldn't get neither houndius nor catapults to have their damage boosted by the whistle
@@lenship2 Because technically they are not followers.
How about Woodie as moose agaist treeguard with his skill + Wolfgang buff and spicy Voltgoat jelly?
wolfgang buff only applies to followers.
so at most i think the third slam only does like 470 with the warly buff.
@@DVGMedia1 Oh, because there is people showing moose doing like 816 against tree guards and kills it with 3 hits only, someone e in game said he can reach 906 but I don't I never tested by myself, I play as Woodie aways, but the others with Warly they leave when winter comes.
@@DVGMedia1 I understood, his whistle doesn't apply to players, so I can buff a catcoon, even hounds if we use hound whistle from Varg's year event active, the worse is their loyalty is short and become dangerous to buff and the attack you instead of a target. You should investigate these thing, if you discovery something curious you can show on a new video.
@@augusonictheracoon5279 there was one I was testing which was the pig coin from the pig King for some reason it does not count as a follower despite the game saying it is a follower if it was a follower though you could do the Mini-Game and summon the pigs and they do about 2,000 damage for the 10 seconds they are summoned but sadly that's not the case
@@augusonictheracoon5279 the treeguard damage is the x2 damage you are getting.
Which is why get up to 900
Thinking about it, does wormwood saladmanders count as followers? if they do u can amass saladmanders and have them destroy bosses or smthing
They do count however only can have 2 active per wormwood
the whole you can't be mighty to properly use the wislte is a good hamper so this buffer isn't exactly free
That's all good but I'm the wilson main
Bit sad it's only on regular wolfgang not mighty
I was here!
Beat getting over it on a stream because in 3k q&a you showed that you Play it.
I haven't gotten passed the orange sadly
Me too...
Wait. Does the player riding the Beefalo need to dismount, blow the horn and remount to get the Whistle buff? Or can Wolfgang just blow the horn while they're still mounted to make the Beefalo a follower?
they have to get off the beefalo and blow the horn then mount. while mounted though the buff will activate for 20 seconds. since thats how long beefalos are considered a follower for
@@DVGMedia1 Hmm... So the horn does nothing while you're mounted? That makes it... somewhat questionable how good the trick is, then. I'm sure the Rider doesn't want to have to keep dismounting during a fight if they can help it. But I would have to try it to say for sure.
@@Randoman590 that's why I think it's better for a teammate to be writing the Beefalo cuz you only need to apply the following of the horn once and you can get 20 seconds of double damage. In all honesty I don't know how effective this would be in practice but it is a funny thing that is possible
beard777 ew
Not liking the direction this is going. Feels like this sidesteps many of the issues I noticed in my last run.
HOW DO U HAVE OLD CRAFTING MENU
Mod named hybrid crafting menu
Does it work on Maxwell's duelists?
Aren't beefallos becoming followers after feeding them?
they don't get the follower tag
When you feed a beefalo they kind of get a different ai while they have domestication.
they will approach players and such But don't become an actual follower.
wait what how do you have the old crafting tab? tbh i think the old one was cooler
Likely a client mod
Mod named hybrid crafting menu
Does the whisle also boost other player damage or does it only work with mobs ?
Its only mobs sadly
@@DVGMedia1 that's sad , imagine how good it would have been
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Doesnt feeding beefalos also make them followers?
No sadly only it just changes thier ai a bit
a girl character? 🤔
honestly i hate the skill trees and hope that there will be a mod that removes them from my server.
Why? They provide a lot of depth, help personalize your character, and gave Woodie the massive buff he deserved.
@@HumanoidDerpling i feel like they DON'T fit the game at all,and that wilson isn't the only special anymore
@@MaxwellE985 Just because other characters don't have skill trees doesn't make Wilson not special. After all, he's the only character with transmutation, and the only one that can store food in his beard. The beauty of skill trees is that they all provide something very different.
@@HumanoidDerpling Well he used to be the only special to me and i just hate the skill trees,i don't have anything else to say.
To be onest at the start of the game is not very effective and in late game dont matter how long take to rekill a boss