I tried to slide around on a gravel road the other day and as soon as I lost a bit of traction, fricken thing would straighten itself out again. Kinda ruined it for me for winter, but this is what I was looking for. Thanks.
I'm trying this tonight! The VDC nanny is pissing me off. It turns on right when you are about to have a bunch of fun :) Also got the parts to make the inline switch for maximum professionalism and convenience! Thanks for the video buddy.
idk if you'll remember writing it but I just finished reading a forum thread from 2013 about this, saw you made a CZcams and just had to search for it! glad to see you're still around!
Just bought a 2012 Impreza and was severely disappointed I could not fully disable traction control. Thanks for documenting this workaround. I only wish it didn't also disable cruise control...
Please tell me there is a hack to disable AT temp oil and all the other dash lights without clearing the codes. My crosstrek/xv goes into limp mode once the blue temp light dissapears. I've got 3 different opinions tcm faulty. Body valve. Torque converter
I was looking through my manual for the car, the extra line of fuses to the side are not listed, but clearly exist, and says the VDC fuse is the bottom right fuse in the main unit on the left in your video. pulling that one kills the power steering aswell.
Yes, but does that just disable the Vehicle Dynamics or Both that and the Traction Control? In the Subi you can use a button to turn off the VDC only, as in many cars.
I'm planning on going to Sand Lake next month with my 2016 Subaru Crosstrek Limited w/EyeSight and know that disabling the VDC is important so engine power isn't cut. Is the VDC OFF button not effective? And why does the shift lock not disengage if the fuse for the VDC is pulled?
This great info thank you! My 2019 crosstrek has those lights on and my abs traction control hill assist and cruise control don’t work but I want them to. I replaced the stop lamp switch and brake sensor and those warning lights are still on. Would you have any idea’s?
hey how did you put that button in on the left side where the traction control button is? I'm setting up a led light bar and I can't figure out how to get that place holder button out.
You can drift the car with out pulling the VDC fuse it just takes getting to know what the car is looking for. The VDC I've learned dose allow for quite an aggressive slip angle. The trick is to limit your counter steer and your input steering. Of course you can only do this in low traction conditions because well the car is week. So I've learned that a little dab of left foot breaking will help rotate the car on turn in once you get the car to rotate in word you can over power all 4 wheels causing a 4 wheel drift with a close to or at a zero counter steer. You can even achieve this with the traction control on. Mind you if you are in the snow this dose take a relatively high rate of speed to achieve because what you are trying to achieve is to get all the wheels to spin at the same speed and the VDC will not try to counter the drift until you counter steer. I think the logic of the VDC was specific programed this way to try and midagate under steer. Maybe next time it snow I'll make a video on how I learned this and also how you can transition as well. But far warning because the car is under powered you need a higher entry speed. So practice where you have a lot of space. Then you can show off your skills on the clover leafs.
hey bro, this is amazing..! i have 2015 boxer diesel lineartronic forester and i cant disable esp system too... is this process same for my car? i hope so:)) waiting for your answer!!
What is with the waiting for gauges... Fwiw my 13 wrx can't fully disable vdc, nor disable hill assist. Those are sti only, maybe different on the 15's
KTMcaptain If you don't wait for the gauges the motor will crake over a bunch before it starts. You should be able to disable everything on the WRX with the button. The hill assist requires a different way described in manual.
Waiting for the gauges is really waiting for the fuel system to build pressure. More important on cold days, less important if the motor is nice and warm.
+Brian Gabel I have a 2015 forester, 2.5 with CVT. Here in Dubai we have a lot of sand. For dune driving power to all 4 wheels is essential. The car's computer doesn't agree :)) I will try to see if it improves the performance. Quick mention, the Subaru dealer does not import manual gearbox or XT version so I need all the available horses to spin those wheels and keep momentum. Did anybody try to remove the fuse for sand driving?
HOLY SHIT I"M SO GLAD I FOUND THIS VIDEO!! but I have a '14 2.0 Impreza 5-speed.. is it the same process and do you know if it will still allow me to shift?
Cool vid - I'll go in and install a secret switch too. Google Subaru lawsuit - the 0W20 burns away because the piston rings can't keep it all out of the chamber. I'm adding a quart every 2000 miles already and Ive only got 36000 miles on the engine.
+trainlinezoo Odd. is that something to expect later in the lifespan of the engine. I wonder if my 2015 is effected. I have seen no consumption yet. (impreza base model)
+rotaxrider about the consumption issue? Yeah those are the effected models right now. Haven't heard anything with newer models yet and tbh this is rare or it would have made a bigger dent in their sales and Subaru would have had a lot more of short blocks to change out. If you have one just keep an eye on your oil levels between changes to make sure its not consuming a load of oil. I think Subaru only does something for it if you're losing 1quart every 1500 miles.
The initial break-in period does eat a bit of oil. Between each oil change you will likely notice a slight difference in the amount of oil that comes out of your car vs. the amount you put into your car. That is why they are called 6 Star Oil Eaters!
Subaru has not had the best crankcase breather design. However it is adequate 4 normal driving. If you are going to drive the car hard for long periods of time my suggestion is to get a oil air separator. Some recycle the oil back into the crankcase and some you have to drain the ones that recycle oil back into the crankcase Aid in decreasing oil consumption. Also driving the cars at a high load at low RPM damage the Rings especially the boosted cars like the WRX or the STI. also remember the cars are not race cars they're meant to go fast every now and again but they're not meant to be driven fast all the time. Unless you want to make the adequate modifications.
@@artilleryisbetter where did I say anything about the tranny? And no the 6 speed is not. It is better than the 5 speed but they start ripping gears smooth over 450 hp from a dig. Again not made to be launched on sticky pavement.
Mel Hugh because anybody that can handle a car does not need this. they are making traction control and abs systems so "idiot proof" these days that they are more dangerous to experienced drivers.
because there are a lot of tossers that think they can out engineer the manufacturers on everyday road cars , sit around on the hoods of their cars with their arms folded pontificating about "drivers cars" and beleive they have mad driving skillz. A small number may actually be OK drivers, but mostly they are the reason insurance premiums are the way they are.
Because all of these "driving aids" don't actually make the car perform better, they just make it easier to drive. Traction control does not increase traction, it cuts engine power. ABS doesn't make the you stop faster, it cuts braking force to stop the tires from locking. Stability control doesn't increase stabilty, it makes the car point straight. For people who enjoy driving these things are all a nuisance. If that's not what you want leave it as is.
@@yarpos Not many peope smarter than the engineer at FHI, but many people are smarter than the people that the system is designed for. Don't need to out smart an engineer to drive 5-speed manual.
Man I have a manual Impreza and same fuse to pull this video showed me how to have the most fun winter I ever had 🤣🤣🤣🤣
HAHAHA!!! YESSSS!
I tried to slide around on a gravel road the other day and as soon as I lost a bit of traction, fricken thing would straighten itself out again. Kinda ruined it for me for winter, but this is what I was looking for. Thanks.
I'm trying this tonight! The VDC nanny is pissing me off. It turns on right when you are about to have a bunch of fun :) Also got the parts to make the inline switch for maximum professionalism and convenience! Thanks for the video buddy.
The VDC is such a pain when trying to have fun. I have since added a switch also using an inline fuse.
Thanks for the video and explanations. I rigged my XV with a switch and will be ready for snow fun in Canada. Cheers
idk if you'll remember writing it but I just finished reading a forum thread from 2013 about this, saw you made a CZcams and just had to search for it! glad to see you're still around!
Wow this is the best thing, I tried to figure this out a few years ago. This works perfectly on my '12 impreza hatch. Thanks!
Worked Mint with my 5 speed Impreza 2013
Just bought a 2012 Impreza and was severely disappointed I could not fully disable traction control. Thanks for documenting this workaround. I only wish it didn't also disable cruise control...
Welcome! I wouldnt advise driving with the car with TC off in 99% of circumstance anyways.
Get a check engine light.
Please tell me there is a hack to disable AT temp oil and all the other dash lights without clearing the codes. My crosstrek/xv goes into limp mode once the blue temp light dissapears. I've got 3 different opinions tcm faulty. Body valve. Torque converter
i installed switch on this fuse wire and all set i have now full VDC Off button try it guys good luck !!
I did that after the video too.
Can you show us how to do that.
@@brian0010 can you update the video and show us how to do that? Just bought a impreza 2016 nd pretty sure ill have this problem (manual transmission)
Ill definitely be using this when the snow comes! Thanks for sharing! :)
Does someone 3d print a little thinger with the cap built in that you can just leave in there all the time?
I've got a manual. So no shift lock. Wonder if I'd have to bother?
Thank you so much for this. Been asking and looking for ages . Cheers
supernova1976 No problem! Glad you found the video and I could help!
I was looking through my manual for the car, the extra line of fuses to the side are not listed, but clearly exist, and says the VDC fuse is the bottom right fuse in the main unit on the left in your video. pulling that one kills the power steering aswell.
Good video! Me being a Nissan owner mine came with a shut off switch. Cheers!
Yes, but does that just disable the Vehicle Dynamics or Both that and the Traction Control? In the Subi you can use a button to turn off the VDC only, as in many cars.
Disable the VDC, Traction control, and ABS COMPLETELY.
The button does not completely disable the VDC.
Brian Gabel Thanks Brian
On 2014 Forester 2.0 xt its not working. The fuse is 15 amp. if you have an idea how to delete VDC. Thanks
I'm planning on going to Sand Lake next month with my 2016 Subaru Crosstrek Limited w/EyeSight and know that disabling the VDC is important so engine power isn't cut. Is the VDC OFF button not effective? And why does the shift lock not disengage if the fuse for the VDC is pulled?
So you can restore it once you do this to its stock features?? Please respond
What you are going to do if you want to put it back to enable it?
So I'm going to get a Subaru 2012 hatchback for a first car and planning to have fun with it in the snow. What does the CVD exactly do?
This great info thank you! My 2019 crosstrek has those lights on and my abs traction control hill assist and cruise control don’t work but I want them to. I replaced the stop lamp switch and brake sensor and those warning lights are still on. Would you have any idea’s?
We need to get a little rain and then I can! Check out some of the older videos on my channel in my Subaru WRX drifting around.
Damn, nice Comanche. It's been a long time since I've seen one.
Thanks to Subaru insider.
If the car is manual you dont need to do the screw part?
Nice setup
I wondered about this on my '15 WRX (with CVT) and was told it was not a good idea because of the way the AWD system works.
The WRX has a button to completely disable the TC stock...
hey how did you put that button in on the left side where the traction control button is? I'm setting up a led light bar and I can't figure out how to get that place holder button out.
I did it for mine, you have to drill it out. It's a solid piece of plastic.
+Josh Simonds Yup have to drill it.
Hey just a reminder if you pull the fuse for the VDC the transfer clutch remains open so you are fWD.
You can drift the car with out pulling the VDC fuse it just takes getting to know what the car is looking for. The VDC I've learned dose allow for quite an aggressive slip angle. The trick is to limit your counter steer and your input steering. Of course you can only do this in low traction conditions because well the car is week. So I've learned that a little dab of left foot breaking will help rotate the car on turn in once you get the car to rotate in word you can over power all 4 wheels causing a 4 wheel drift with a close to or at a zero counter steer. You can even achieve this with the traction control on. Mind you if you are in the snow this dose take a relatively high rate of speed to achieve because what you are trying to achieve is to get all the wheels to spin at the same speed and the VDC will not try to counter the drift until you counter steer. I think the logic of the VDC was specific programed this way to try and midagate under steer. Maybe next time it snow I'll make a video on how I learned this and also how you can transition as well. But far warning because the car is under powered you need a higher entry speed. So practice where you have a lot of space. Then you can show off your skills on the clover leafs.
hey bro, this is amazing..! i have 2015 boxer diesel lineartronic forester and i cant disable esp system too... is this process same for my car? i hope so:)) waiting for your answer!!
What is with the waiting for gauges... Fwiw my 13 wrx can't fully disable vdc, nor disable hill assist. Those are sti only, maybe different on the 15's
KTMcaptain If you don't wait for the gauges the motor will crake over a bunch before it starts.
You should be able to disable everything on the WRX with the button. The hill assist requires a different way described in manual.
Waiting for the gauges is really waiting for the fuel system to build pressure. More important on cold days, less important if the motor is nice and warm.
Why not just turn it off with the button?
deere2630 It doesn't completely disable the system that way.
The engine sound great... is that because you installed a custom muffler or something? If so, which one? Great video by the way.
Exhaust is all stock! :o
Can you provide some information on your front light bar/lighting setup? Is it removable? Looks like a nice setup for winter rallies.
Primitive Racing bolt on light bar to their skid plate.
Great video, thanks!
Glad you found it! LIKE and SUBSCRIBE for more!
Same fuse for manual trans?
Oh cute doggy :)
so when you put the fuse back in did it completely undo everything you did?
***** Yep. Everything goes back to normal when the fuse is put back in.
I have since done just that!
Hi, cool video but i have question can you remove the fuse while the car is started up on drive
+Olivier Legault YES! Works exactly the same.
+Brian Gabel I have a 2015 forester, 2.5 with CVT. Here in Dubai we have a lot of sand. For dune driving power to all 4 wheels is essential. The car's computer doesn't agree :))
I will try to see if it improves the performance.
Quick mention, the Subaru dealer does not import manual gearbox or XT version so I need all the available horses to spin those wheels and keep momentum.
Did anybody try to remove the fuse for sand driving?
Hello. I live in Oman. Did you have some luck pulling the fuse?
Is there anyway to do this so I don't have to depress the lock to shift into drive?
Jason Kendall Nope. The ECU locks it. You could shift into drive and then pull the fuse lol.
What about if you left it in neutral. It wouldnt lock then would it?
recommend subaru xv?? for the oil consumption problem
HOW GAY is Subaru for not letting you disable it!!!
mikesanto70 I agree. You are able to in the wrx/sti models, but not the other ones. LAME!
I have a button in my crosstrek that I just push and it's disabled.
where did u find the railing for the front?
If you check out my channel you will see a new video with more info on all my MODS!
engine light dont go hellp :D
HOLY SHIT I"M SO GLAD I FOUND THIS VIDEO!! but I have a '14 2.0 Impreza 5-speed.. is it the same process and do you know if it will still allow me to shift?
Trail's End It's the same exact thing for the 2014 2.0. Have you tried it yet?
Brian Gabel no not yet, i will when we get some snow or the next time i'm out on some logging roads.
i have an Forester xt 2014 Can i do the same and wich switch is it ? :)
Im not sure if it is going to be the same in the XT or not.
Did you figure it out? Shouldn't be too difficult since it's a CVT on the '14 XT
Cool vid - I'll go in and install a secret switch too. Google Subaru lawsuit - the 0W20 burns away because the piston rings can't keep it all out of the chamber. I'm adding a quart every 2000 miles already and Ive only got 36000 miles on the engine.
+trainlinezoo Odd. is that something to expect later in the lifespan of the engine. I wonder if my 2015 is effected. I have seen no consumption yet. (impreza base model)
+dave091790 Vehicles effected are:
2011-2014 Forester (with 2.5-liter engines)
2013 Legacy (with 2.5-liter engines)
2013 Outback (with 2.5-liter engines)
2012-2013 Impreza (with 2.0-liter engines)
2013 XV Crosstrek (with 2.0-liter engines)
Are you serious?
+rotaxrider about the consumption issue? Yeah those are the effected models right now. Haven't heard anything with newer models yet and tbh this is rare or it would have made a bigger dent in their sales and Subaru would have had a lot more of short blocks to change out. If you have one just keep an eye on your oil levels between changes to make sure its not consuming a load of oil. I think Subaru only does something for it if you're losing 1quart every 1500 miles.
The initial break-in period does eat a bit of oil. Between each oil change you will likely notice a slight difference in the amount of oil that comes out of your car vs. the amount you put into your car. That is why they are called 6 Star Oil Eaters!
i have a button on mine to disable traction control and i drift in snow great with it off
Motley Crue Morris it doesn’t disable everything though that’s the point of the video.
That button is only for TC
should wire up a switch in between the fuse.
I ended up doing that
Once you replace the fuse everything goes back to normal.
u have to disconnect blue with red strip wire on ignition kay luck
eyesight turns off on the models with eyesight
Subaru has not had the best crankcase breather design. However it is adequate 4 normal driving. If you are going to drive the car hard for long periods of time my suggestion is to get a oil air separator. Some recycle the oil back into the crankcase and some you have to drain the ones that recycle oil back into the crankcase Aid in decreasing oil consumption. Also driving the cars at a high load at low RPM damage the Rings especially the boosted cars like the WRX or the STI. also remember the cars are not race cars they're meant to go fast every now and again but they're not meant to be driven fast all the time. Unless you want to make the adequate modifications.
lol what? The 6M tranny on the STi is durable af
@@artilleryisbetter where did I say anything about the tranny? And no the 6 speed is not. It is better than the 5 speed but they start ripping gears smooth over 450 hp from a dig. Again not made to be launched on sticky pavement.
What a knife from you?
Why turn off completely something that can save your life one day?
Mel Hugh because anybody that can handle a car does not need this. they are making traction control and abs systems so "idiot proof" these days that they are more dangerous to experienced drivers.
because there are a lot of tossers that think they can out engineer the manufacturers on everyday road cars , sit around on the hoods of their cars with their arms folded pontificating about "drivers cars" and beleive they have mad driving skillz. A small number may actually be OK drivers, but mostly they are the reason insurance premiums are the way they are.
Because all of these "driving aids" don't actually make the car perform better, they just make it easier to drive. Traction control does not increase traction, it cuts engine power. ABS doesn't make the you stop faster, it cuts braking force to stop the tires from locking. Stability control doesn't increase stabilty, it makes the car point straight.
For people who enjoy driving these things are all a nuisance. If that's not what you want leave it as is.
Ok boomer.
@@yarpos Not many peope smarter than the engineer at FHI, but many people are smarter than the people that the system is designed for. Don't need to out smart an engineer to drive 5-speed manual.