Exploring Indian Civilization by Michel Danino,IIT Kanpur 1. How do today’s archaeologists, anthropologists, geneticists and linguists view the old Aryan controversy?
I attended this lecture live. ....mantramugdh kr dene wale the... ... Thanks sir...Now government also recognized it and awarded Padmshree....real work...truth always prevail..
When it comes to horses, there are depiction of horses, domesticated ones in the Caves of BhimBhetka and OnakeKindi, which spread in the North-Central-South indian regions. Clearly there were horses, indigenous ones to India in the so called pre-historic times of 8 to 10th millineum
@@TheBhumbak DNA can prove migration can't prove that there was no arya in this nation before 3500 years that will be prove by indus valley archeological proof so don't become blind there is clear proof that you see in the video of hindu/arya culture.
@@TheBhumbak DNA can't prove about the dates of migration...Infact there was no scientific evidence to back Ur invasion claim .. DNA ofcrs Indians have varied DNA cause different parts of the country were exposed to different kinds of people ...at the same time DNA shows almost every Indian predominantly has two Sets of groups ANI ASI .. Northies hv higher ANI while Southie hv higher ASI ...DNA didn't say there was migration 3000 years ago DNA is the result of Interbreeding that happened across thousands of years in waves ..not sudden change lmao
@@NitinSharma-yo3xu these guys are caught up between Invasion And Migration .. politically they use invasion but As archeologists hv debunked invasion so now softer version is resorted which is Aryan migration ...Now they are commenting about DNA etc but DNA didn't say there was migration just 3000 years ago .. infact DNA varies across the country due to various reasons but these guys are clueless and desperate as invasion theory was debunked
Ram Sharan Sharma, Romila Thapar, Upinder Singh, and all other modern historians who have written books on ancient India while accepting the Aryan migration are not foreigners. Foreigners were the Aryans.
I truly believe, in the existence of the Saraswati as described in RV and it dried up around 1800-1900 BC. But, I would not trust any findings by Nikesh Oak. I do not find him credible.
@uploader of this video, what are your thoughts on the article from Priya Moorjani et al, Genetic Evidence For Recent Population Mixture in India 2013. This artcle clearly shows the evidence of theani and the Asi as a district group, until recently. I will also like to thankyou for uploading this lecture, it was very informative.
Very nicely presented. I would like to know Professor Danino's opinion on the Yamnaya civilization. There appears to be a consensus that Yamnaya is the homeland of the aryans.
@@MM-dh3wr but the same nobel Prize winners are brahmins, otherwise tamilnadu is know for it's brahmims hate mentality. I also known most of the south indian scholars are brahmins
It's the periyar gang, who called themselves atheists but only could must to hate Hindus, coz any other scenario their asses might have been ripped off
Us Indians seem to be so ashamed of our history or culture & so afraid of being deemed "communal" that we can't afford to speak up against the so called intellectuals of India. As the speaker says the Indian archaeologists were looked at with doubts. Some day we will be able to stop being ashamed of our heritage and will be able stand up for ourselves.
Because the caste system will come and thence its repurcussions. But history can be morphed and the narrative changed to suit the political ideology of the time. Is it a epitaph to be called as a peasant ? How we love bollywood stories and grand backdrops? Anything else is considered below poverty line... sic. It is a world of escapism!!! If arya is pure soul, then everybody else will be impure and will be going to hell....the middleorder that is, will collapse and bottom order will suffocate.
The harappan cities were all vedic cities. They had vedic priests. fire altars.. That's why no temples. .. advanced cities... It is a far older civilisation .
I don't understand why can't people mention STEPWELLS. They are the biggest cultural continuous connection.. Indus valley had big stewells but the Vedic and classic period had bigger stepwells.
wooww, sir I am grateful to you for delivering in such a beautiful manner. I always personally believe they they were not invaders. Time has come to rewrite our history.
Excellent discourse, no doubt. But the speaker conviently bypasses the discussion on latest technologies - Genetics and Linguistics. Genetic Y chromosome studies seem to support migration/invasion theory ( R1a1a vs M20/M9). The only missing link is a DNA match between Dravidians and Indus valley people. Linguistic study also says about Indo-European lineage of Sanskrit and other north Indian languages. The speaker rightly concluded that "archaeologists have stopped discussing about invasion theory" - probably due to slowly mounting evidence of Genetics and linguistics...
Danino also has genetic research data. BTW genetics is continuously evolving and also the recent genetic data has findings to the contrary. So it is very convenient to state that this is the last say in the matter.
Samuel Premkumar The sample size is very small and is not conclusive that the flow is from outside into India, it could very well be from India to Europe and will yield similar results.
Thank u so much sir for sharing this....hope aaj ke baad communist mai thodi akal aaye aur samjhe ki hum sab chahe south indian ho ya tribal log ho ya Brahman ho ya fir koi schedule caste .hum sab bhaai bhai h ye humara desh h🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏aap sab logo ke saamne communist tibal schedule caste ya koi bhi ho se vinti karta hu ek ho jaao mat lado aapas mai hum sab bhai bhai h.....maanta hu ki kuch logo ke sath history mai on the basis of their colour ya fir neech pandito ne humare schedule caste bhaiyo ke sath galat kiya...bhai mai aap sab se apne poorvajo se hui saari galtiyo ke liye aapke charan choo kar aap logo se maafi maangna chahta hu.....bas bhai yahi chahta hu ki hum sab ek hoke apne desh ke liye sath khade rahe....aur apni chetna ko raise kare ..jis din hum sab ki chetna apne param par pahchegi us din se hum mai koi bhed-bhaao nahi rahega.....last baar fir kahuga hum sab ek the ek h aur ek rahenge...aur aapas ki ladaaiyo ko apni chetna ko raise karke khatam karege
In USA, only racially mixed African American changed their skin color, and temperature did not change the non racially mixed blacks. 90 percent of Indians are more dark skinned, including majority in Pakistan. The white blood came to India with Aryans, later with Greeks, Muslims and European(English, Portuguese, French).
@@madhureddy7643 Lol. What a joke. The origin of white skin of Irish people is traced back to India in recent studies. Moreover, recent studies have also concluded that skin colour has nothing to do with race. www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/genetic-study-shows-skin-color-just-skin-deep-180965261/
Madhu Reddy man are u guys really serious?? From now on I think we shld make sure everyone mention their qualifications to pass judgement like this... u even don’t skin colour is bcoz of geographical identity of generations... what is wrong with u guys? Why u guys r hallucinating ?
Very good research and lecture. Please note that Sumerinas called themselves as dark headed people. The mention of ships and seas is a clear evidence of the Sumerian connection. regards.
Brilliant lecture and beautifully evidenced. The clustering of the seven ways to tackle the issue of AIT really brought together all the evidences so far presented by various scholars to refute AIT. Thank you very much for this presentation. Wish the slides were more clear. Also the audio becomes unclear in some places.
As a Canadian yoga teacher who cares deeply about presenting solid information to my students about the ancient roots of yoga, I am trying to get clear on this highly charged topic of the 'AIT', and the more I learn the more complex it all becomes! The one outstanding question from this lecture (and others who argue against the AIT) is the linguistic piece. If the 'Aryans' were indeed from the subcontinent as Dr. Danino has carefully argued, why would their language be so closely tied to European languages? This is the piece that is still unclear for me. Did (north) Indians previously migrate to Europe and influence their languages long before the IVC? I don't want to present this information to my students until I feel confident that I am clear, and till now it is still a jumble in my head! Any clarifications would be most welcome.
What baffles me is that even if we assume that aryans came from steppe or south eastern Europe why their culture was not vedic or Avestan for that matter?
@@alokbejai5250 There is no consensus on yoga's chronology or specific origin other than that yoga developed in ancient India. Some speculate that it was vedic and others say it's from India valley. We don't even know if Indus valley civilization was vedic or not unless we know how to decipher the Indus script. Moreover genetics doesn't tell you about how culture originated necessarily.
@@alokbejai5250 thank you so much for so succinctly summarizing this complex history. what you are saying totally fits with what I have come to learn since writing the post above. it took a long time to get clear on all of this, as there are so many intensely passionate debates about the AIT, and I didn't want to be another 'foreigner' blindly supporting non-Indic 'experts'. but then I came across the work of prominent South Asian academics like Dr. Romila Thapar and Tony Joseph who laid out what you have expressed above, and the whole historical 'flow' of events made sense.
There are liguestic connections most probably because Indians moved out of India. 1: The early Vedic ( so called Aryan) literature mentions about the western migration of three kings with their people to west after a war between the 10 king's of India .( Literary proof of out of India migration) 2: Rakhigadi ( Harapan site) genetic connections found in central Asian and steppe people where as Rakhigadi DNA doesn't show any steppe connection That means Harappans moved out to west. (Genetic proof of out of India migration) Recent genetic studies proves the so called Aryan male DNA R1A1 originated in India ( another proof) Please refer Dr.Niraj Rai research papers or listen to his interviews. 3: Mitanis in second millennium BC of Syria were Vedic people. A document mentions Indra and Vedic rituals excavated from there.That proves the Vedic story about western migration from India ( archeological proof of out of India migration)
This real history must be taught in educational institutions to bring back our pride and culture which is destroyed by past government & still destroying by some idiotic groups. Sad to say that we read the biased history which has weakened our pride and elevated the pride of destroyers & colonisers.
Can you pl share any links to such source of information? Its important Tamils are made aware. Present letter forms have no connection with those stone inscriptions in Temples.
As far as my limited knowledge goes, I am of the opinion *the migration of Vedic Aryans (3400-1500 BCE)from North West India to Europe and Eurasia of the Druhyu tribes, the Alinas, the Anus etc resulted in the settlement of the Celts and Gauls, Germans, Balts, Hittites and the Zorathushtras (Iranians).* Remnants of these tribes in India were absorbed into Bharat clan/Puru (Kurus and Panchalas) mainstream. The Druids/Celts followed practices like idol worship, worship of multiple gods, food offerings in worship, philosophy of non destruction of soul, belief in rebirth after death, worship of ancestors, etc. Julius Caesar, while describing them, mentions that they were experts in Religion, Philosophy and Astronomy, and they were doing research in, debating and interpreting, those fields. This is similar to the way Upanishads, Hindu scriptures were formed through debates, discussions and interpretation of Vedas. *The Druids chanted something similar to Vedas. Vedas were not written, but orally transmitted. Similarly the Druids did not keep a written record of the chanting. They did not read out from books. Those who chanted Vedas were under strict regulations and disciplines; the Druids also followed strict codes of conduct. Like this, the Druids can be compared to Indian priests who follow Vedic tradition in many ways.* Apart from this, when Greeks and Romans brought Celts under their rule, they changed the Celtic names. They changed the names of places and people to Greek and Latin and gave new interpretations.Greeks had a general tendency to give their own names in Greek to the names of non- Greek people and places. Therefore, we can imagine the havoc they had done to Celtic names, whose culture they wanted to wipe out completely. History shows the oppressive nature and sense of superiority of the Greeks, while dealing with their subjects. This resulted in concealing historical evidences.Not only that, many Celtic gods were brought into the Greek fold with new names and new dressing! Let us remember that the greatly praised Greek culture is a borrowed one! When Greek dominance faded, the Celts were prevented by Christianity from continuing with their traditional Celtic practices and customs. Christianity showed keen interest in wiping them out totally. Regarding Celtic language *Ogham*, it is difficult to find the true meanings of many Celtic words, but interestingly enough they resemble Sanskrit and words related to Sanskrit. *Ogham (with 'g' silent) sounds Ohm (ॐ ) sacred symbol of Hindu dharma.* Namaste
@@bvshenoy7259 Thanks very much for the info, from mythology it says the Gaels came from Iran, the Persian hero Rostam is very similar to Cuchulainn, before that using different Celtic mythology it leads to a civil war in India that led to the "Aryan" tribes, both Eireann (Irish for Ireland) and Iran come from the word. The Grandfather of the man who started the Gaelic tribe was called Fenius Farsaidh, aka "Wise Persian"
Having listened to both sides of this dilemna/controvery , I found that people have polarized themselves especially on the hindu side as to have become blind to the possibility of a THIRD scenario that is neither Aryan invasion (hard or soft it does not matter) and not hindus origins of Vedas. The harrapan people may have already been Aryans and the newcomers were also Aryans but only from rival factions (and not from central asia !). Therefore there was no break in culture the difference in culture were too small and subtle. As for the dark/darker skinned people the more obvious explanation is that both Aryans groups enslaved the local indigenous people. But also spend military campaigns in southeast asia to harvest more slaves. I do not see a single contradiction in this theory. Later they bred with some female slaves and the hybrid offspring was allowed to raise in social status. The caste is an obvious remnant of a slave and ruling class. The existence of dravidian and dravidian civilization is a myth, there never was any dravidians, only slaves, hybrid priviledged slaves and aryans. India was from its beginnings an Aryan culture. There were indigenous dark skinned people but they never dominated the region even in harrapan's time, Aryans were already present. The argument in favor of this is that there are no white southeast asians todayand there never were, only dark skinned that mixed with chinese. At the Veda's time, the southeast asian population was much darker skinned before the east asian hybridation. This is the stock that supplied the slaves to build India's temples, all of which under domination of an Aryan original civilization (no invasion !). It's not surprising then that the Khmer empire was an hindu offshoot having a large supply of local slaves for the Aryan builders, all the way to 800 CE Angkor Wat. Mixing with their slaves the Aryan civilization eventually weakened. It's even possible that the slave population was much larger than the aryans who ruled over them and that a revolt occurred wiping out pure Aryans which was the beginning of the decline of India. To go even further, Egypt probably modeled itself on this Indian Aryan original civilization and most intriguingly tried to emulate the system of slaves. There are colored pigment egyptian painting showing subsaharan africans (not just in color but anatomy, lips, hair,etc) along fair skinned aryan egyptians ! When the Hindus will realize this is actually what happened they will beg for the Aryan invasion theory which is false (Aryan build India from the ground up) but actually leaves a contribution part for their non aryan part ancestry that the historical reality never had.
@Prathmesh Tiwari That's not what i wrote, read again. Aryans are not outsiders they funded India from the beginning and mixed with their dark skinned slaves that are not originated from the subcontinent but were brought from military campaigns to southeast asia and also with a local indigenous forest primitive people talked about in the Vedas. Today's Hindus are a mix of these three groups.You cannot call these ancient slaves hindu people in the sense of hindu cultured people. The Aryans never invaded India they are the start of Indian civilization and culture. They hybridized over time with their dark skinned slaves and the primitive forest people which they also hunted, just as Rama did. The further you go back in time the more aryan and separate from their slaves the indian would have looked. Looking at today's indians i think the slaves were much more numerous than their aryan masters and at some point might have successfully rebelled. That probably happened a long long time ago.
@Prathmesh Tiwari I am obviously aware that the word Aryan has taken a different meaning over time, this is irrelevant and does not change what happened. The founders of India were from a fair skinned civilization group and they enslaved much darker people from southeast asian campains and from the subcontinent. You can call them Aryan or Gedeon or Harrapans whatever, it doesn't change the genetic history.
Fuck off white supremacist. Without any evidences you can't make history. You people can only look dark fair complexion and make stories how so called Aryan invaded India. As if without invasion a country can be off multiple races. Go fuck with your bulshit theory
Why should the river appear on the consensus/map made by english/french in the early 18th century but not apparent to the (let's suppose) invasive aryan?
The asi have discovered a chariot and horse in parts of up which dates back the time of Aryan migration or invasion. That stie particular site also has weapon unlike the Indus valley and it changes the way we look at history. According to it there was another civilization in that area which was of warrior kind of. So the horse and chariot once and for goes into the pit I hope
I think that this has been solved finally by the Genome Project. The Arias came from the area from Persia and India, which a long time ago were not named thus. They are people from this area, and the Indian Continent have genetically produced all the rest of the world after Africa anyway! Cynthia Allen McLaglen
I approached this subject in order to get rid of the silly idea that Arians were from the West and in particular according to the racist Hitler,- from Europe. Of course this is nonsense. Most Aria Haplogroups are found in Persia and scattered in India. There are very few of them now and are not dominated by other Haplogroups. What the Genome Project has revealed is that all Asia and Europeans and Ethnic Australians come from Seth Cain and Abel Y chromosome, and the only most ancient Female left today is "M" or Manju, who came from L3 the out of Africa Eve. Manju is the mother of all the rest of the world and she has mutated into many clades, and has continued since 80,000 years ago and is found still in India in spite of the Kobo explosion from Indonesia 74,000 years ago, which wiped out much flora and fauna in India and all surrounds for thousands of miles. She travelled to Australia before any other human with her male counterparts. She would have been black to start with. I love the fact that we are all one race of Humans both black and white and we are ALL RELATED! I wish people would not be so stupid in their predjidice. She is my ancestor and went on to evolve Haplogroup Nasreen and Rohani and then in my case Helena, and the ancestor of all people- Chinese, Japanese; Koreans Indians, Europeans and Ethnic Americans. She is also the mother of Arians! Cynthia Allen McLaglen
The Sarasvati River used to completely cover all the western rivers in the Indian Continent, and it was so huge, 8000 years ago when the Himalyas ice began to melt big time, as the sun was reported to be extremely hot, and The Rig Veda reports that enormous shards of ice described as Dragons sped down the mountains. Geologists confirm this and the enormous river continued for thousands of years and was miles wide. Then nearer to our own time it divided into smaller rivers and the ice became less so the rivers eventually dried up and became desert. Look at Paleo Atlases that show this. When the Ice Ages ended gigantic floods continues with tsunamis all over the world, including America, Europe and Russia and the seas rose 300 feet. It is still happening! READ TWO BOOKS: "Eden in the East" the drowned continents of East Asia by the Genome Project scientist Stephen Oppenheimer and "UNDERWORLD" flooded Kingdoms of the Ice Age by Graham Hancock. What they both have to tell is amazing and exciting! Cynthia Allen McLaglen
Gujaratis were the greatest Mariners in the world. When Portugese captains came to Mombasa they picked up a Gujarat pilot who easily showed him the way the India. Of course according to the Rig Veda the Indians were sailing regularly to Sumer and taking Harappan goods there thousands of years before. Mehrgarh is thought to be 12,000 years old so we need to look back much further that 3000 to 4000 years for our evidence! Thank you to the lecturer of "Aryan Control" LECTURE 02 So sorry I cannot find your name. I loved your lecture! Thank you Punditube! Cynthia Allen McLaglen
Can the Indus Seals define/confer the stage of a person's in his life in the Indo-Saraswati Society? Like Brahmacharya, Gruhasta, Vanaprastha and Sanyasa? The Pashupathi Seal seams more like a depiction of Vanaprasthashrama. And maybe the Unicorn can be ether depiction of Sanyasa or Gruhastha maybe Scholars can dwell better into the details.
Indian Puranic tradition contain record of central Asian tribes (Turks), mainly entered India since the time of fall of Harappan civilization 1900 bc and destroyed the Imperial Yadava power in the Kurukshetra war 1500-1200 bc, under the leadership of the Babylonians. Superior theology of Sanatan religion being replaced by Semitic religion of Hinduism and Vishnu with the literary Ram (Ramses).
Modern haplagroup evidence can show the Eurasian admixture in northern Indians. Unfortunately for the pc crowd. The Aryan description not only meant race. It only meant race and denoted language secondarily
If you check the DNA of the people in the present-day USA you can find a mixture of different DNAs, in that mixture, you will find the Chinese DNA also. Does that mean the present American culture was brought to America by the Chinese? Similarly in the golden era of Bharatha, migration happened in and out of India. So you will find different DNAs. Also during that time, it was normal for the kings to borrow soldiers from the friendly states. Many of them stayed after the war like the way the lots of Alexander's soldiers stayed back in India. Ancient India was great, so people from all over the world came to India for trade and to also to learn in different universities like Taxashila, Nalanda and Nagarjuna.
@@bpmalanadu7136 is that chinese dna found in the native americans or Americans whose ancestors migrated to america during industrial revolution? The great Mongolian horde invaded europe during the reign of gengis kahn and has descendants to this day, it's not uncommon to have chinese dna in those ancestors as the Mongolian horde did have a lot of chinese soldiers 🗿 so yeah there's you evidence
@@mohammedarafatlone I only meant, people always migrate and leave their DNA traces in the society since very ancient times, just because an Irish migrated to USA and left their DNA in that society doesn't not mean that society was built by the Irish, I only meant this by using a Chinese example. In America people from far east migrated to, thousands of years ago itself and the European people who arrived there recently, killed them by spreading their body viruses and also by doing massacres. In ancient India people from all civilized nations of that era came in contact with for multiple reasons. Like, for trading, for studying at the ancient universities like Nalanda and Taxashila, for medical treatments et cetera. In those time there was a practice of borrowing and lending soldiers to and from friendly nations. This also caused a DNA mix especially male DNA. Aryan migration theory was invented by McCaulley and Max Muller. McCaulley paid Max Muller 500 pound to write a fake history and Muller did it, but later Muller itself denounced and regretted what he himself said and became a Hindu.
Out of 1500 Indus sites one site found one horse at mature harappan. Shows Aryan migrated even before ivc collapse, it's should not be assume IVC belong Aryan. Because horse mentioned in extensively in vedic.
Indian culture spread to many parts of the world for sure, thats itself is a great achievement and greatness, present India didn't continue that process due to foreign occupation.
Europeans only fish in the Murky water. and gospel for white superiority . Vedas where stolen from Rawana By the Aryans. and for that scapegoated the Innocent Rama and Sita made an Epic The Ramayana , and started the conflict of Aryan and Dravidian.
kedar desai No fantasy असुर्या नाम ते लोका अन्धेन तमसा वृताः । ताꣳस्ते प्रेत्याभिगच्छन्ति ये के चात्महनो जनाः॥ अन्धं तमः प्रविशन्ति ये अविद्यामुपासते । ततो भूय इव ते तमो य उ विद्यायाꣳ रताः ॥
I have been considering Dr. Danino's question about why the Vedas refer to the land between the Sindhu and Sarasvati Rivers, and not to some prior 'homeland' in the 'Steppes' if this is where the Sanskrit-speaking Aryans had come from. What if the composers of the Rig Veda were the product of the liaisons between the Aryan men and local indigenous women? It would then make sense that this 'mixed' generation would only know the land of their birth, and nothing of the land of their fathers, which would be totally remote to them. As Aryan males they would have been trained in the Sanskrit language of their fathers, and thus the 'hymns' of the Vedas are composed in the medium of this language. That is my answer to the question Dr. Danino posed; I'd love to hear what others think of it!
You cant have complete erasure of a supposed harappan language if mothers of these aryans were harappan.Current north indian languages do not show non indo european features.If some ppl consider themselves to be superior they highlight their origins as has happened throughout history. What you are describing is a synthesis which is not claimed by AIT/AMT.According to them aryans imposed their culture on so called natives. In any case AIT is untenable on many other grounds as explained in the lecture. There are no archaeological or textual evidence for AMT. If IV script is deciphered something could be said.
@@user-lg3ms9hx4v thank you for your thoughtful reply. I continue to consider these questions and reflect upon all the information I have been taking in on this subject. In response to your comment above, I have the following thoughts: i) you can have an erasure of a language in one generation- this has happened many times in many places; ii) as this history is probably 4000 years old, it is likely that the 'place of origin' stories have been lost through time, and many migrations; iii) the textual references to taking female slaves would suggest a high likelihood that mixed progeny would have resulted, especially if the Aryans coming into the territory were largely male, as many have suggested; iv) (and this to me is the greatest challenge of all to what Dr. Danino has presented), - how else beside the AMT do you explain the linguistic similarities between European and North Indian languages?
@@devidaughter7782 It is not only the European languages that are highly influenced by the Sanskrit but also the far eastern languages. Migrations always happened in and out of ancient Bharatha as it was a highly developed place on the earth at that time. People came to Bharatha for trade and also to study at Nalanda, Taxashila and Nagarjuna viswavidhyalayas(university). In present-day USA you will find people of different ethnicities. Among them you will find the Chinese also, do you think it is the Chinese who brought the American culture to America? Just because there are KFC's and McDonald's in China? The thinking of many historians is unprofessional and irrational. The British government paid Max Muller £500 to write a fake history to take away India's culture from India but later Max Muller itself denounced his fake AIT and repented also he himself became a Vedic scholar and a Hindu.
As per the Aryan invations theorists Aryans came to India after 1500 . Geological studies proves the river Saraswati dried up before that period of time. There for if Aryans came to India after 1500 they cannot write about the mighty river Saraswati. Rakhigadi DNA(Harappan site) doesn't have any steppe gene. So nobody can claim that the so called Aryans came before the drying up of Saraswati. Modern North Indians and south Indians carry Rakhigadi genes.That means there is a continuity. Recent genetical studies shows the so-called Aryan male gene R1A1 originated in India.
Supporters of Aryan invasion theory(AIT) kindly say something to challenge the scientific reasoning in this theory. The lecturer rightly said for any theory to be accepted the 3 reasons to be supported by it 1)ARCHAEOLOGICAL 2)LITERARY (vedas and puranas) 3)Dna analysis P.S Linguistics is not a scientific subject The evidence starts from 15:40
@A- k dude, modern maps with physical features of the landscape are drawn using remote sensing satellites, which were invented only after 1960s. my question is how these historians in 19th century could have drawn it ? without the use of modern technology?
Herodotus [father of history 484 b.c.- 425 b.c.] wrote about india and he said: all the tribes mention... their skins are all the same color much like the Ethiopians. and upon Herodotus return to Greece they gathered around and asked, ''tell us about this great land of the blacks called Ethiopia. and Herodotus said, ''there are two great Ethiopian nations, one in sind [india] and the other in Egypt.
Deep Verma, more people speak Indo-European language(IE) outside of India, to be precise a Billion people as compared to 14000 people speak in India according to 2011 census. Sanskrit and IE language consonants are pure as compared Dravidian language consonants which are imbedded with a vowel. The roots in IE are formed by contracting 2 or 3 consonants , where as Dravidians roots can’t without imbedded vowel. If Sanskrit is born in India, it should be close to Dravidian roots. Aryans were white people, they brought Sanskrit to India, they imposed race based Varna system in India, and it is continued today.
i think i've solved diff between tamils and dravidians (based on the four links below) .... but i think a genetic study has not been done yet ....... india politics .... conservatives suck ...... this is it .... tamils originate from africa based migration into india 70k to 40 k years ago ..... where dravidians originate indegeously by surving Toba 70 k years ago The Eurasian Heartland: A continental perspective on Y-chromosome diversity www.pnas.org/cgi/content/long/98/18/10244 … Jwalapuram: Stories Buried in Ash... Read More at www.livehistoryindia.com/amazing- india/2017/06/28/jwalapuram-stories-buried-in-ash Ancient humans left Africa to escape drying climate phys.org/news/2017-10-ancient-humans-left-africa-climate.html Modern Humans Wandered Out of Africa via Arabia voices.nationalgeographic.org/2011/11/03/modern-humans-wandered-out-of-africa-via-arabia/ twitter.com/physorg_com
IIT's me archeology , geology etc etc bohut department hote hai... Sirf mechanical and chemical engineering nehi hote hai...aur bhi bohut sare departments hai
Of course the Aryan migration is true. Genetic research basis Y DNA (Male DNA) says so. Earlier researches were based on mtDNA(transferred from mother to Daughter) leading to conclusion that there is little or no external infusion in the male gene pool. The current research disproves the earlier theory, which had its base wrongly calculated by disregarding Y DNA data which has a strong presence, as evidenced by the recently concluded research, in the Indian Lineage. Y DNA research is important as the migrants had a strong gender bias - in other words they were predominantly Male Certain points that are derived from the research: There was a mass influx of migrants at the time of Indus valley civilization collapse, but there is no evidence to prove or disprove that the collapse was because of migrants. Genetics research leads to conclusion that they are mostly upper caste people Study points that people belonging to Indus valley civilization might have pushed to Southern India Sanskrit and Rig Veda, was brought in by the immigrants Conclusions from the paper: 1. The first argument was that there were no major gene flows from outside to India in the last 12,500 years or so because mtDNA data showed no signs of it. This argument was found faulty when it was shown that Y-DNA did indeed show major gene flows from outside into India within the last 4000 to 4,500 years or so, especially R1a which now forms 17.5% of the Indian male lineage. The reason why mtDNA data behaved differently was that Bronze Age migrations were severely sex-biased. 2. The second argument put forward was that R1a lineages exhibited much greater diversity in India than elsewhere and, therefore, it must have originated in India and spread outward. This has been proved false because a mammoth, global study of R1a haplogroup published last year showed that R1a lineages in India mostly belong to just three subclades of the R1a-Z93 and they are only about 4,000 to 4,500 years old. 3. The third argument was that there were two ancient groups in India, ANI and ASI, both of which settled here tens of thousands of years earlier, much before the supposed migration of Indo-European languages speakers to India. This argument was false to begin with because ANI - as the original paper that put forward this theoretical construct itself had warned - is a mixture of multiple migrations, including probably the migration of Indo-European language speakers.
@@qwertyman9560 How is that? The studies found the DNA of the Aryans is more similar to the Upper castes from North India? What is unscientific about that? www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-46616574
@@rohanshinde4327 BBC , British broadcast company (UK) Which always tried to break India from past years and steal it's wealth Through spreading hatred .
@@navneetnavneet4252 Not really. BBC is highly factual and reliable media. The one trying to break India is Modi and the Godi media, the media sponsored by the Indian govt. Here's another reliable source, The Diplomat magazine. thediplomat.com/2019/01/unraveled-where-indians-come-from-part-1/
@@rohanshinde4327 haha......"here is my pados wale uncle's statement about he being the father,he's factual,he must be as he is not from my family" lol
He does a great job of rejecting the invasion theories, and discussing Indian history books. But recent genetic work shows that there has in fact been several waves if migration into India. scroll.in/article/874102/aryan-migration-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-study-on-indian-genetics
You read an article from the scroll and come into a intellectual lecture 😂 Nevertheless ever heard of the Yamnaya tribe, please do so before accounting any other bullshit!
History of Sanatan Bharat is Puranas of billions of years.History of other civilizations r of 2/3thousands years. Without this understanding fool historians will wander in darkness. Utkal, Akhand Bharat.
i think this guy should have showed artifacts like from the ancient caves in india and ancient statues, it would have helped a lot. and I always wondered why the lips and noses were knocked-off or shot-off the statues in Egypt and india? I think it was done to hide the true identity of the true people of those lands,and he did not cover this in the video.
I am appalled by keep saying Afghan rivers, while it was not the name those regions at the time rig-veda or whatever! Please revise ur knowledge of names of today's Afghanistan. And use the correct names of those regions... So students are not deprived from the actual history and name the nations and people and region of today's Afghanistan. I would be thankful if u consider my comment. Best regards, Naweed
Mani Kandan ,the prof clearly asks for proof of aryan home anywhere apart from India described in the rig Veda ,no .why you call it false propaganda ,submit any proofs if you have any to contradict this .just don’t say shit .aryan belongs to Indian sub continent.
ferzy09 where is this fictional indo European race lived ,any archeological evidence of their existence,indo European is term only used for languages not for a race of people ,what language did these indo europesna practice,plz let me know .
ferzy09 how do you prove this point that these indo Europeans,moved to India ,if they have moved here they would have made the reference from where they were ,ok if you think they moved from Central Asia or Europe only a part of them would have moved right ,then where are the accomplishments of the major part of them who were still in europe or Central Asia ,plz .
Aryans are indigenous ppl of india.. they are not out siders... Aryans are not caste or religious.. Aryans referred to the great noble.. Arya are local indigenous ppl.. Dravidian is the foundation of hinduism which is older than Sanskrit..
Indian civilisations , Vedas, Yoga, Upanishadas, River Sarasvathi, Aryans, Dravedians are older than 10,000 BCE. Astronomy go back to 27,000 BCE.... Ancient Indian civilisations had trade with many parts of the world......which may lead to exchange of culture, people, language, Moreover education tourism was at its peak.....etc. India was united by the culture and pilgrims.
sukalpa s do you have proof for your facts? Aryan Gene mutation not old than 4500 years. Dravidian Gene mutation 50000-65000 years old.. Tamil word found in rig veda and Hebrew, Harappan proven to be deciphered to Tamil. check with authentic data, don't bluff and make yourself fool
out of 1000 sites only one site found horse, that too they had doubt beacuse it has similar with wild ass.. 😂😂😂 it very clear wild ass is fabricated as horse.. out of thousands of bull seal and artifact only five to six was found to be horse, that to suspect to be broken bull artifacts.. another fabrication... 😂😂😂
The lecturer contradicts himself.He told the saraswati river dried up around 1900 BCE and the rig veda is composed around 1200 BCE. It is clearly written in rig veda that the saraswati is the mightiest of all rivers even comparing it to the indus.
***** In history we never use the term "people say".It leads to myth making. I agree rig veda is older than 2000 BC but only the paleo channels of river saraswati can give a rough dating.
he didn't say it was composed in 1200 BCE. 1200 BCE is the date AIT/AMT folks usually give for its composition because Vedas were supposedly composed by Aryans who invaded/migrated into the subcontinent around the time of the decline of IVC around 1900 BCE. If you listen carefully, he says that the dating of the drying up of sarasvati indicates that Vedas were composed much earlier. In the beginning he also briefly talks about the astronomical evidence, which also points 3rd or 4th millenium BCE as the time of the composition of Rig Veda.
The British not only looted our wealth but also our culture and our existence.. hope all the history books that we are taught are re-written with proper facts and this idea of the Aryan invasion should no longer be told anymore.. British had started dividing india long before Bengal Partition by intruding the concepts of aryans dravidians tribals etc.. how does every Hindusthani know the same gods and goddess and the great epics if we were really different!! I have one question to the professor or anyone who can answer.. do we have any explanation on how the cremation process might have changed from burials to burning?
a book that talks about cosmos ,sun moon stars constellation their attributes just some how hide their original homeland in steppes is laughable 😂😂 😂 they are jealous that baap to sabka hindu sanatani hi hai mane me dikkat hai inhe bus zero se leke 1,2,3 aur pani se gand dhona sabh humne sikhaya hai duniya ko hamare gyan se janwar(insan) admi bana aur in western culture se chutiya
great to see a "professor" with ZERO qualification on genetic research, or in any other domain for that matter, and NOT ONE peer reviewed paper talking about scientific studies! way to go iit!
As an academic, I can tell you papers and citations mean nothing, all the more in today's day and age of publish or perish. In fact, a lot of malicious content is "authenticated" and seen as established "proof" through journal publications. I would give more credit to this gentleman's logical arguments compared to junk in the name of scientific work.
Naive discussion and lay. The Jews want to remove the word Aryan Race and Swastika from the planet or create a confusion on this. The first credible mention of this Race is mentioned in the Rigveda-Avesta very similar texts with nearly the same language. This Race is thus indigenous to Northwestern Indian subcontinent and parts of touching Central Asia. The color of this Race was from Gandum (wheatish in Sanskrit-Persian) depending on the climatic exposure for long periods. Southern Iranians and Punjabis can be quite dark due to harsh climate. Most Indians and Iranians are Aryans. Simple example of original untouched Aryans the people of Gurez (Kashmir) Bharat. Most Indians have never met these people of Bharat, who still live like the original Aryans lived. These people are physical giants and defeated the huge force of Emperor Akbar soundly. Their language Shina-Kashmiri is a Dardic language linked to the Kalasa people See these Indians: czcams.com/video/cOeroIunKzs/video.html
I attended this lecture live. ....mantramugdh kr dene wale the... ... Thanks sir...Now government also recognized it and awarded Padmshree....real work...truth always prevail..
Sunil Kumar brainwashed idiots 😂😂 he is fabricating can't you understand?
DNA abidance proves Michel Danino wrong
@@TheBhumbak No it doesn't.
@@meghalayaridechennai1410 Shut up, moron. Paithyakkaran Tamilan.
@@TheBhumbak which ? Please update with Rakhigarhi
When it comes to horses, there are depiction of horses, domesticated ones in the Caves of BhimBhetka and OnakeKindi, which spread in the North-Central-South indian regions. Clearly there were horses, indigenous ones to India in the so called pre-historic times of 8 to 10th millineum
In actual we Indians migrated from India to western world carrying our language Sanskrit which given birth to different European languages...
True dat
Nope, you just want that to be so because of your nationalism.
Thank you sir.... You have buried this evergoing dispute forever.... thanx IIT for uploading such knowledgeable videos.... 👏👏👏👏👏
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Southern wind bastard please fuck off third propaganda man
Thank you very Much IIT for uploading these lectures ! and also Thanks to the Professor !
DNA abidance proves Michel Danino wrong
@@TheBhumbak DNA can prove migration can't prove that there was no arya in this nation before 3500 years that will be prove by indus valley archeological proof so don't become blind there is clear proof that you see in the video of hindu/arya culture.
@@TheBhumbak DNA can't prove about the dates of migration...Infact there was no scientific evidence to back Ur invasion claim ..
DNA ofcrs Indians have varied DNA cause different parts of the country were exposed to different kinds of people ...at the same time DNA shows almost every Indian predominantly has two Sets of groups ANI ASI .. Northies hv higher ANI while Southie hv higher ASI ...DNA didn't say there was migration 3000 years ago DNA is the result of Interbreeding that happened across thousands of years in waves ..not sudden change lmao
@@NitinSharma-yo3xu these guys are caught up between Invasion And Migration .. politically they use invasion but As archeologists hv debunked invasion so now softer version is resorted which is Aryan migration ...Now they are commenting about DNA etc but DNA didn't say there was migration just 3000 years ago .. infact DNA varies across the country due to various reasons but these guys are clueless and desperate as invasion theory was debunked
he is spreading propaganda
This is what happens when local history is written by a foreigner.
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gamingcosmos.com invaders. it Is conspiracy by ruler on ruled unfortunately supported by Nehruians.
Ram Sharan Sharma, Romila Thapar, Upinder Singh, and all other modern historians who have written books on ancient India while accepting the Aryan migration are not foreigners. Foreigners were the Aryans.
Mauktik Kulkarni what marxist? Every single historian isn't a Marxist.
Rohan Shinde yep true then I don't know
Shri Nilesh Oak dates Saraswati river beyond 10000 BC and he is providing facts on the same
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@@southernwind2737 aaaa this guy literally spamming everywhere
But the Saraswati river dried up by approx 4000 BC....... in the Ramayana, the indication of dead Saraswati is mentioned.
I truly believe, in the existence of the Saraswati as described in RV and it dried up around 1800-1900 BC. But, I would not trust any findings by Nikesh Oak. I do not find him credible.
@@dr.srikumarmukherjee4204 but it is also said to be 14th century in jain/Buddhists scripts
Excellent and Eloquently Explained!
@uploader of this video, what are your thoughts on the article from Priya Moorjani et al, Genetic Evidence For Recent Population Mixture in India 2013. This artcle clearly shows the evidence of theani and the Asi as a district group, until recently. I will also like to thankyou for uploading this lecture, it was very informative.
Very nicely presented. I would like to know Professor Danino's opinion on the Yamnaya civilization. There appears to be a consensus that Yamnaya is the homeland of the aryans.
In South India only in TamilNadu Aaryan Dravidian foolish theory gained popularity.
3 nobel prize winners
@@MM-dh3wr please not all are brahmins, who are aryans as per foolish invasion theory.
@@raghvendra7963 thoe supporting VARNASHRAM are aryans(brought VArnashram)
@@MM-dh3wr but the same nobel Prize winners are brahmins, otherwise tamilnadu is know for it's brahmims hate mentality.
I also known most of the south indian scholars are brahmins
It's the periyar gang, who called themselves atheists but only could must to hate Hindus, coz any other scenario their asses might have been ripped off
Us Indians seem to be so ashamed of our history or culture & so afraid of being deemed "communal" that we can't afford to speak up against the so called intellectuals of India. As the speaker says the Indian archaeologists were looked at with doubts. Some day we will be able to stop being ashamed of our heritage and will be able stand up for ourselves.
Because the caste system will come and thence its repurcussions. But history can be morphed and the narrative changed to suit the political ideology of the time. Is it a epitaph to be called as a peasant ? How we love bollywood stories and grand backdrops? Anything else is considered below poverty line... sic. It is a world of escapism!!! If arya is pure soul, then everybody else will be impure and will be going to hell....the middleorder that is, will collapse and bottom order will suffocate.
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Did u mention about fire worship place in Harappa!!?
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Southern wind
You are a third grade South Indian chrstian
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gentleman ,who so ever has coined this concept aryan migration theory , from where they got this word Aryan ?
mantra yoga stress buster
The harappan cities were all vedic cities. They had vedic priests. fire altars.. That's why no temples. .. advanced cities... It is a far older civilisation .
sanch Sanchayan you must be stupid . Aryans never wrote and are illiterate. Indus people’s language is scripted .
@@usanna4903 nice joke....
harappans were not vedic people they worshipped goddess it was feminine culture
@@tsukiyomi4133 Vedic culture even today worships the feminine and the masculine. Bharat mata ki jai?
I don't understand why can't people mention STEPWELLS. They are the biggest cultural continuous connection.. Indus valley had big stewells but the Vedic and classic period had bigger stepwells.
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Hello brother meeting you after a lot of time, what's your thoughts now, have they changed somewhat
wooww, sir I am grateful to you for delivering in such a beautiful manner. I always personally believe they they were not invaders. Time has come to rewrite our history.
Who is the speaker on this video clip? Can anyone say his name pl? Well presented.
Very nice to know our history!
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Sir, make avalible in all TV channel local as well global to all
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Excellent sir🙏
Excellent discourse, no doubt. But the speaker conviently bypasses the discussion on latest technologies - Genetics and Linguistics. Genetic Y chromosome studies seem to support migration/invasion theory ( R1a1a vs M20/M9). The only missing link is a DNA match between Dravidians and Indus valley people. Linguistic study also says about Indo-European lineage of Sanskrit and other north Indian languages.
The speaker rightly concluded that "archaeologists have stopped discussing about invasion theory" - probably due to slowly mounting evidence of Genetics and linguistics...
Danino also has genetic research data. BTW genetics is continuously evolving and also the recent genetic data has findings to the contrary. So it is very convenient to state that this is the last say in the matter.
Samuel Premkumar The sample size is very small and is not conclusive that the flow is from outside into India, it could very well be from India to Europe and will yield similar results.
Genetic studies will definetely throw light but the studies are in the initial stages...
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Thank u so much sir for sharing this....hope aaj ke baad communist mai thodi akal aaye aur samjhe ki hum sab chahe south indian ho ya tribal log ho ya Brahman ho ya fir koi schedule caste .hum sab bhaai bhai h ye humara desh h🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏aap sab logo ke saamne communist tibal schedule caste ya koi bhi ho se vinti karta hu ek ho jaao mat lado aapas mai hum sab bhai bhai h.....maanta hu ki kuch logo ke sath history mai on the basis of their colour ya fir neech pandito ne humare schedule caste bhaiyo ke sath galat kiya...bhai mai aap sab se apne poorvajo se hui saari galtiyo ke liye aapke charan choo kar aap logo se maafi maangna chahta hu.....bas bhai yahi chahta hu ki hum sab ek hoke apne desh ke liye sath khade rahe....aur apni chetna ko raise kare ..jis din hum sab ki chetna apne param par pahchegi us din se hum mai koi bhed-bhaao nahi rahega.....last baar fir kahuga hum sab ek the ek h aur ek rahenge...aur aapas ki ladaaiyo ko apni chetna ko raise karke khatam karege
Skin color is due to geographical location. As one goes toward equator people have darker skin !!
what about dna hahahaha
In USA, only racially mixed African American changed their skin color, and temperature did not change the non racially mixed blacks. 90 percent of Indians are more dark skinned, including majority in Pakistan. The white blood came to India with Aryans, later with Greeks, Muslims and European(English, Portuguese, French).
@@madhureddy7643 Lol. What a joke. The origin of white skin of Irish people is traced back to India in recent studies.
Moreover, recent studies have also concluded that skin colour has nothing to do with race.
www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/genetic-study-shows-skin-color-just-skin-deep-180965261/
Madhu Reddy man are u guys really serious?? From now on I think we shld make sure everyone mention their qualifications to pass judgement like this... u even don’t skin colour is bcoz of geographical identity of generations... what is wrong with u guys? Why u guys r hallucinating ?
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How do you explain the similarity between Vedic religion and Zoroastrianism.
Don’t bother. This dude is a hack and talks shit out the ass to fulfill his hindutva agenda
Very good research and lecture. Please note that Sumerinas called themselves as dark headed people. The mention of ships and seas is a clear evidence of the Sumerian connection. regards.
Brilliant lecture and beautifully evidenced. The clustering of the seven ways to tackle the issue of AIT really brought together all the evidences so far presented by various scholars to refute AIT. Thank you very much for this presentation. Wish the slides were more clear. Also the audio becomes unclear in some places.
Accent is really easy to understand by this lecturer. This lecture is a pleasure to listen to.
Are there any other ways land based across Himalayas in those days ...from the steppes and not just the khyber pass....geologists please!
Are you guys IITK purposely making the audio to stutter or disappear?
Any idea what's the name of the professor and the name of his book that he mentioned
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Michel Danino his book name is "The Lost river on the trail of The Saraswati" an extremly scholarly work go buy at once!!!!
nice
As a Canadian yoga teacher who cares deeply about presenting solid information to my students about the ancient roots of yoga, I am trying to get clear on this highly charged topic of the 'AIT', and the more I learn the more complex it all becomes! The one outstanding question from this lecture (and others who argue against the AIT) is the linguistic piece. If the 'Aryans' were indeed from the subcontinent as Dr. Danino has carefully argued, why would their language be so closely tied to European languages? This is the piece that is still unclear for me. Did (north) Indians previously migrate to Europe and influence their languages long before the IVC? I don't want to present this information to my students until I feel confident that I am clear, and till now it is still a jumble in my head! Any clarifications would be most welcome.
Truth be told even we are confused. You might want to follow Vinay lal lecture too.
What baffles me is that even if we assume that aryans came from steppe or south eastern Europe why their culture was not vedic or Avestan for that matter?
@@alokbejai5250 There is no consensus on yoga's chronology or specific origin other than that yoga developed in ancient India. Some speculate that it was vedic and others say it's from India valley. We don't even know if Indus valley civilization was vedic or not unless we know how to decipher the Indus script. Moreover genetics doesn't tell you about how culture originated necessarily.
@@alokbejai5250 thank you so much for so succinctly summarizing this complex history. what you are saying totally fits with what I have come to learn since writing the post above. it took a long time to get clear on all of this, as there are so many intensely passionate debates about the AIT, and I didn't want to be another 'foreigner' blindly supporting non-Indic 'experts'. but then I came across the work of prominent South Asian academics like Dr. Romila Thapar and Tony Joseph who
laid out what you have expressed above, and the whole historical 'flow' of events made sense.
There are liguestic connections most probably because Indians moved out of India.
1: The early Vedic ( so called Aryan) literature mentions about the western migration of three kings with their people to west after a war between the 10 king's of India .( Literary proof of out of India migration)
2: Rakhigadi ( Harapan site) genetic connections found in central Asian and steppe people where as Rakhigadi DNA doesn't show any steppe connection That means Harappans moved out to west. (Genetic proof of out of India migration) Recent genetic studies proves the so called Aryan male DNA R1A1 originated in India ( another proof)
Please refer Dr.Niraj Rai research papers
or listen to his interviews.
3: Mitanis in second millennium BC of Syria were Vedic people. A document mentions Indra and Vedic rituals excavated from there.That
proves the Vedic story about western migration from India ( archeological proof of out of India migration)
This real history must be taught in educational institutions to bring back our pride and culture which is destroyed by past government & still destroying by some idiotic groups. Sad to say that we read the biased history which has weakened our pride and elevated the pride of destroyers & colonisers.
Yep, read false history which invokes pride or read true history. Your choice.
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you southies r the only one who do that
His last "just 1 minute" lasted 15 minutes.
Very good explanation with practical examples
why everybody who comes out of Africa changes appearance? talking about all the races
Only problem might be to find the reason for occurrence of R1a1 genetic marker in Indians which is present in European & Central Asians.
Old tamil or old bramhi are very very similar !!!!!!!!!!!
script is different and language is written on a script, at a time Sanskrit and Tamil both have same scripts.
Can you pl share any links to such source of information? Its important Tamils are made aware. Present letter forms have no connection with those stone inscriptions in Temples.
So is Northern Brahmi and Harrpan script.
So is Northern Brahmi and Harrpan script.
Such an elegant and logical explanation
Questions should be asked after such a major presentation.
thanj you sir and please watch india inspires videos for more info.
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Gaelic Ireland was very similar to ancient India. Brahmin/Brehon, a caste system, Ogham/Sanskrit etc.
As far as my limited knowledge goes, I am of the opinion *the migration of Vedic Aryans (3400-1500 BCE)from North West India to Europe and Eurasia of the Druhyu tribes, the Alinas, the Anus etc resulted in the settlement of the Celts and Gauls, Germans, Balts, Hittites and the Zorathushtras (Iranians).* Remnants of these tribes in India were absorbed into Bharat clan/Puru (Kurus and Panchalas) mainstream.
The Druids/Celts followed practices like idol worship, worship of multiple gods, food offerings in worship, philosophy of non destruction of soul, belief in rebirth after death, worship of ancestors, etc. Julius Caesar, while describing them, mentions that they were experts in Religion, Philosophy and Astronomy, and they were doing research in, debating and interpreting, those fields.
This is similar to the way Upanishads, Hindu scriptures were formed through debates, discussions and interpretation of Vedas. *The Druids chanted something similar to Vedas. Vedas were not written, but orally transmitted. Similarly the Druids did not keep a written record of the chanting. They did not read out from books. Those who chanted Vedas were under strict regulations and disciplines; the Druids also followed strict codes of conduct. Like this, the Druids can be compared to Indian priests who follow Vedic tradition in many ways.*
Apart from this, when Greeks and Romans brought Celts under their rule, they changed the Celtic names. They changed the names of places and people to Greek and Latin and gave new interpretations.Greeks had a general tendency to give their own names in Greek to the names of non- Greek people and places.
Therefore, we can imagine the havoc they had done to Celtic names, whose culture they wanted to wipe out completely. History shows the oppressive nature and sense of superiority of the Greeks, while dealing with their subjects. This resulted in concealing historical evidences.Not only that, many Celtic gods were brought into the Greek fold with new names and new dressing! Let us remember that the greatly praised Greek culture is a borrowed one!
When Greek dominance faded, the Celts were prevented by Christianity from continuing with their traditional Celtic practices and customs. Christianity showed keen interest in wiping them out totally.
Regarding Celtic language *Ogham*, it is difficult to find the true meanings of many Celtic words, but interestingly enough they resemble Sanskrit and words related to Sanskrit. *Ogham (with 'g' silent) sounds Ohm (ॐ ) sacred symbol of Hindu dharma.*
Namaste
@@bvshenoy7259 Thanks very much for the info, from mythology it says the Gaels came from Iran, the Persian hero Rostam is very similar to Cuchulainn, before that using different Celtic mythology it leads to a civil war in India that led to the "Aryan" tribes, both Eireann (Irish for Ireland) and Iran come from the word.
The Grandfather of the man who started the Gaelic tribe was called Fenius Farsaidh, aka "Wise Persian"
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@@bvshenoy7259 interesting. You may be right in essence but not sure about the timelines you mention
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Having listened to both sides of this dilemna/controvery , I found that people have polarized themselves especially on the hindu side as to have become blind to the possibility of a THIRD scenario that is neither Aryan invasion (hard or soft it does not matter) and not hindus origins of Vedas. The harrapan people may have already been Aryans and the newcomers were also Aryans but only from rival factions (and not from central asia !). Therefore there was no break in culture the difference in culture were too small and subtle. As for the dark/darker skinned people the more obvious explanation is that both Aryans groups enslaved the local indigenous people. But also spend military campaigns in southeast asia to harvest more slaves. I do not see a single contradiction in this theory. Later they bred with some female slaves and the hybrid offspring was allowed to raise in social status. The caste is an obvious remnant of a slave and ruling class. The existence of dravidian and dravidian civilization is a myth, there never was any dravidians, only slaves, hybrid priviledged slaves and aryans. India was from its beginnings an Aryan culture. There were indigenous dark skinned people but they never dominated the region even in harrapan's time, Aryans were already present. The argument in favor of this is that there are no white southeast asians todayand there never were, only dark skinned that mixed with chinese. At the Veda's time, the southeast asian population was much darker skinned before the east asian hybridation. This is the stock that supplied the slaves to build India's temples, all of which under domination of an Aryan original civilization (no invasion !).
It's not surprising then that the Khmer empire was an hindu offshoot having a large supply of local slaves for the Aryan builders, all the way to 800 CE Angkor Wat. Mixing with their slaves the Aryan civilization eventually weakened. It's even possible that the slave population was much larger than the aryans who ruled over them and that a revolt occurred wiping out pure Aryans which was the beginning of the decline of India. To go even further, Egypt probably modeled itself on this Indian Aryan original civilization and most intriguingly tried to emulate the system of slaves. There are colored pigment egyptian painting showing subsaharan africans (not just in color but anatomy, lips, hair,etc) along fair skinned aryan egyptians ! When the Hindus will realize this is actually what happened they will beg for the Aryan invasion theory which is false (Aryan build India from the ground up) but actually leaves a contribution part for their non aryan part ancestry that the historical reality never had.
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@Prathmesh Tiwari That's not what i wrote, read again. Aryans are not outsiders they funded India from the beginning and mixed with their dark skinned slaves that are not originated from the subcontinent but were brought from military campaigns to southeast asia and also with a local indigenous forest primitive people talked about in the Vedas. Today's Hindus are a mix of these three groups.You cannot call these ancient slaves hindu people in the sense of hindu cultured people. The Aryans never invaded India they are the start of Indian civilization and culture.
They hybridized over time with their dark skinned slaves and the primitive forest people which they also hunted, just as Rama did. The further you go back in time the more aryan and separate from their slaves the indian would have looked. Looking at today's indians i think the slaves were much more numerous than their aryan masters and at some point might have successfully rebelled. That probably happened a long long time ago.
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@Prathmesh Tiwari I am obviously aware that the word Aryan has taken a different meaning over time, this is irrelevant and does not change what happened. The founders of India were from a fair skinned civilization group and they enslaved much darker people from southeast asian campains and from the subcontinent. You can call them Aryan or Gedeon or Harrapans whatever, it doesn't change the genetic history.
Fuck off white supremacist. Without any evidences you can't make history. You people can only look dark fair complexion and make stories how so called Aryan invaded India. As if without invasion a country can be off multiple races. Go fuck with your bulshit theory
IIT...wow very good topic needed for India's development
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Why should the river appear on the consensus/map made by english/french in the early 18th century but not apparent to the (let's suppose) invasive aryan?
Great work
The asi have discovered a chariot and horse in parts of up which dates back the time of Aryan migration or invasion. That stie particular site also has weapon unlike the Indus valley and it changes the way we look at history. According to it there was another civilization in that area which was of warrior kind of. So the horse and chariot once and for goes into the pit I hope
Yes it were tribes who road to conquer Europe, like the Yamnayas
burnol moment for self declared jai bhim moolnivasis
I think that this has been solved finally by the Genome Project. The Arias came from the area from Persia and India, which a long time ago were not named thus. They are people from this area, and the Indian Continent have genetically produced all the rest of the world after Africa anyway! Cynthia Allen McLaglen
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I approached this subject in order to get rid of the silly idea that Arians were from the West and in particular according to the racist Hitler,- from Europe. Of course this is nonsense. Most Aria Haplogroups are found in Persia and scattered in India. There are very few of them now and are not dominated by other Haplogroups. What the Genome Project has revealed is that all Asia and Europeans and Ethnic Australians come from Seth Cain and Abel Y chromosome, and the only most ancient Female left today is "M" or Manju, who came from L3 the out of Africa Eve. Manju is the mother of all the rest of the world and she has mutated into many clades, and has continued since 80,000 years ago and is found still in India in spite of the Kobo explosion from Indonesia 74,000 years ago, which wiped out much flora and fauna in India and all surrounds for thousands of miles. She travelled to Australia before any other human with her male counterparts. She would have been black to start with. I love the fact that we are all one race of Humans both black and white and we are ALL RELATED! I wish people would not be so stupid in their predjidice. She is my ancestor and went on to evolve Haplogroup Nasreen and Rohani and then in my case Helena, and the ancestor of all people- Chinese, Japanese; Koreans Indians, Europeans and Ethnic Americans. She is also the mother of Arians! Cynthia Allen McLaglen
The Sarasvati River used to completely cover all the western rivers in the Indian Continent, and it was so huge, 8000 years ago when the Himalyas ice began to melt big time, as the sun was reported to be extremely hot, and The Rig Veda reports that enormous shards of ice described as Dragons sped down the mountains. Geologists confirm this and the enormous river continued for thousands of years and was miles wide. Then nearer to our own time it divided into smaller rivers and the ice became less so the rivers eventually dried up and became desert. Look at Paleo Atlases that show this. When the Ice Ages ended gigantic floods continues with tsunamis all over the world, including America, Europe and Russia and the seas rose 300 feet. It is still happening! READ TWO BOOKS: "Eden in the East" the drowned continents of East Asia by the Genome Project scientist Stephen Oppenheimer and "UNDERWORLD" flooded Kingdoms of the Ice Age by Graham Hancock. What they both have to tell is amazing and exciting! Cynthia Allen McLaglen
Cynthia McLaglenAllen The earliest population in India is genetically undetermined
Gujaratis were the greatest Mariners in the world. When Portugese captains came to Mombasa they picked up a Gujarat pilot who easily showed him the way the India. Of course according to the Rig Veda the Indians were sailing regularly to Sumer and taking Harappan goods there thousands of years before. Mehrgarh is thought to be 12,000 years old so we need to look back much further that 3000 to 4000 years for our evidence! Thank you to the lecturer of "Aryan Control" LECTURE 02 So sorry I cannot find your name. I loved your lecture! Thank you Punditube! Cynthia Allen McLaglen
Thank you sir
Can the Indus Seals define/confer the stage of a person's in his life in the Indo-Saraswati Society? Like Brahmacharya, Gruhasta, Vanaprastha and Sanyasa?
The Pashupathi Seal seams more like a depiction of Vanaprasthashrama. And maybe the Unicorn can be ether depiction of Sanyasa or Gruhastha maybe Scholars can dwell better into the details.
Indian Puranic tradition contain record of central Asian tribes (Turks), mainly entered India since the time of fall of Harappan civilization 1900 bc and destroyed the Imperial Yadava power in the Kurukshetra war 1500-1200 bc, under the leadership of the Babylonians. Superior theology of Sanatan religion being replaced by Semitic religion of Hinduism and Vishnu with the literary Ram (Ramses).
Modern haplagroup evidence can show the Eurasian admixture in northern Indians. Unfortunately for the pc crowd. The Aryan description not only meant race. It only meant race and denoted language secondarily
If you check the DNA of the people in the present-day USA you can find a mixture of different DNAs, in that mixture, you will find the Chinese DNA also. Does that mean the present American culture was brought to America by the Chinese? Similarly in the golden era of Bharatha, migration happened in and out of India. So you will find different DNAs. Also during that time, it was normal for the kings to borrow soldiers from the friendly states. Many of them stayed after the war like the way the lots of Alexander's soldiers stayed back in India. Ancient India was great, so people from all over the world came to India for trade and to also to learn in different universities like Taxashila, Nalanda and Nagarjuna.
@@bpmalanadu7136 is that chinese dna found in the native americans or Americans whose ancestors migrated to america during industrial revolution?
The great Mongolian horde invaded europe during the reign of gengis kahn and has descendants to this day, it's not uncommon to have chinese dna in those ancestors as the Mongolian horde did have a lot of chinese soldiers 🗿 so yeah there's you evidence
@@mohammedarafatlone I only meant, people always migrate and leave their DNA traces in the society since very ancient times, just because an Irish migrated to USA and left their DNA in that society doesn't not mean that society was built by the Irish, I only meant this by using a Chinese example. In America people from far east migrated to, thousands of years ago itself and the European people who arrived there recently, killed them by spreading their body viruses and also by doing massacres. In ancient India people from all civilized nations of that era came in contact with for multiple reasons. Like, for trading, for studying at the ancient universities like Nalanda and Taxashila, for medical treatments et cetera. In those time there was a practice of borrowing and lending soldiers to and from friendly nations. This also caused a DNA mix especially male DNA. Aryan migration theory was invented by McCaulley and Max Muller. McCaulley paid Max Muller 500 pound to write a fake history and Muller did it, but later Muller itself denounced and regretted what he himself said and became a Hindu.
Out of 1500 Indus sites one site found one horse at mature harappan. Shows Aryan migrated even before ivc collapse, it's should not be assume IVC belong Aryan. Because horse mentioned in extensively in vedic.
Mani Kandan and without any evidence...maybe they just sneaked in, invaded silently...get out of that silo of self subjucation
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In a few years it will be confirmed indians were the civilizer of the world.
Lol. What do you mean?
Lol :-)
Indian culture spread to many parts of the world for sure, thats itself is a great achievement and greatness, present India didn't continue that process due to foreign occupation.
If that did happen, then ok. But, inheritance does not mean ownership.
If India considers itself “civilizer of the world”, it is no better than the Europeans who came to “civilize the world”.
Why are you playing down the linguistic aspect?
If you look at the nepali history trickle theory may have a point.
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Europeans only fish in the Murky water. and gospel for white superiority . Vedas where stolen from Rawana By the Aryans. and for that scapegoated the Innocent Rama and Sita made an Epic The Ramayana , and started the conflict of Aryan and Dravidian.
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rigveda says about dasyus being enveloped in darkness seems to be a fantasy concocted by the poet. why discuss about it to prove them as real.
kedar desai No fantasy
असुर्या नाम ते लोका अन्धेन तमसा वृताः । ताꣳस्ते प्रेत्याभिगच्छन्ति ये के चात्महनो जनाः॥
अन्धं तमः प्रविशन्ति ये अविद्यामुपासते । ततो भूय इव ते तमो य उ विद्यायाꣳ रताः ॥
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please read the books of Shrii Shrii Anandamurti on this topic , 'Discourses on Tantra ' you may find very very interesting things
is it kinky?
I have been considering Dr. Danino's question about why the Vedas refer to the land between the Sindhu and Sarasvati Rivers, and not to some prior 'homeland' in the 'Steppes' if this is where the Sanskrit-speaking Aryans had come from. What if the composers of the Rig Veda were the product of the liaisons between the Aryan men and local indigenous women? It would then make sense that this 'mixed' generation would only know the land of their birth, and nothing of the land of their fathers, which would be totally remote to them. As Aryan males they would have been trained in the Sanskrit language of their fathers, and thus the 'hymns' of the Vedas are composed in the medium of this language. That is my answer to the question Dr. Danino posed; I'd love to hear what others think of it!
You cant have complete erasure of a supposed harappan language if mothers of these aryans were harappan.Current north indian languages do not show non indo european features.If some ppl consider themselves to be superior they highlight their origins as has happened throughout history. What you are describing is a synthesis which is not claimed by AIT/AMT.According to them aryans imposed their culture on so called natives. In any case AIT is untenable on many other grounds as explained in the lecture. There are no archaeological or textual evidence for AMT. If IV script is deciphered something could be said.
@@user-lg3ms9hx4v thank you for your thoughtful reply. I continue to consider these questions and reflect upon all the information I have been taking in on this subject. In response to your comment above, I have the following thoughts: i) you can have an erasure of a language in one generation- this has happened many times in many places; ii) as this history is probably 4000 years old, it is likely that the 'place of origin' stories have been lost through time, and many migrations; iii) the textual references to taking female slaves would suggest a high likelihood that mixed progeny would have resulted, especially if the Aryans coming into the territory were largely male, as many have suggested; iv) (and this to me is the greatest challenge of all to what Dr. Danino has presented), - how else beside the AMT do you explain the linguistic similarities between European and North Indian languages?
@@devidaughter7782 It is not only the European languages that are highly influenced by the Sanskrit but also the far eastern languages. Migrations always happened in and out of ancient Bharatha as it was a highly developed place on the earth at that time. People came to Bharatha for trade and also to study at Nalanda, Taxashila and Nagarjuna viswavidhyalayas(university). In present-day USA you will find people of different ethnicities. Among them you will find the Chinese also, do you think it is the Chinese who brought the American culture to America? Just because there are KFC's and McDonald's in China? The thinking of many historians is unprofessional and irrational. The British government paid Max Muller £500 to write a fake history to take away India's culture from India but later Max Muller itself denounced his fake AIT and repented also he himself became a Vedic scholar and a Hindu.
As per the Aryan invations theorists Aryans came to India after 1500 .
Geological studies proves the river Saraswati dried up before that period of time.
There for if Aryans came to India after 1500 they cannot write about the mighty river Saraswati.
Rakhigadi DNA(Harappan site) doesn't have any steppe gene.
So nobody can claim that the so called Aryans came before the drying up of Saraswati.
Modern North Indians and south Indians carry Rakhigadi genes.That means there is a continuity.
Recent genetical studies shows the so-called Aryan male gene R1A1 originated in India.
Supporters of Aryan invasion theory(AIT) kindly say something to challenge the scientific reasoning in this theory.
The lecturer rightly said for any theory to be accepted the 3 reasons to be supported by it
1)ARCHAEOLOGICAL
2)LITERARY (vedas and puranas)
3)Dna analysis
P.S Linguistics is not a scientific subject
The evidence starts from 15:40
It is a theory and not the facts
R u comparing Purans with vedas 🤣🤣🤣.
Yes as per puran ur god parsuram cut his mother's head and shiva cut his son's head. 🤣🤣
Saraswati dried up- reason for end of IVC ., but entire map of Saraswati plotted by 19th century historians without satellites 😂😂😂
@A- k dude, modern maps with physical features of the landscape are drawn using remote sensing satellites, which were invented only after 1960s. my question is how these historians in 19th century could have drawn it ? without the use of modern technology?
Herodotus [father of history 484 b.c.- 425 b.c.] wrote about india and he said: all the tribes mention... their skins are all the same color much like the Ethiopians. and upon Herodotus return to Greece they gathered around and asked, ''tell us about this great land of the blacks called Ethiopia. and Herodotus said, ''there are two great Ethiopian nations, one in sind [india] and the other in Egypt.
Did he have GPS or glonass?😂
@@SS-hw1ou won't you go asked him yourself
@@dwighthoward3415 I had to plough the field after that I got tired and went to sleep.
Please see our Buddha stupi in which horse and bull images were inscripted. Horse is for Aryans and Bull is for Dravidians
Show me proof of an Aryan civilization outside of India?
The word Iran comes from the word Aryan.
Leftandoos fantasy. Means no evidence 👈😂😂😂
Deep Verma, more people speak Indo-European language(IE) outside of India, to be precise a Billion people as compared to 14000 people speak in India according to 2011 census. Sanskrit and IE language consonants are pure as compared Dravidian language consonants which are imbedded with a vowel. The roots in IE are formed by contracting 2 or 3 consonants , where as Dravidians roots can’t without imbedded vowel. If Sanskrit is born in India, it should be close to Dravidian roots. Aryans were white people, they brought Sanskrit to India, they imposed race based Varna system in India, and it is continued today.
I mean 14000 Sanskrit speaking.
This will explain better debunking AIT. czcams.com/video/4VEdyPxkT3k/video.html. Watch the experts talk on this issue.
i think i've solved diff between tamils and dravidians (based on the four links below) .... but i think a genetic study has not been done yet ....... india politics .... conservatives suck ...... this is it .... tamils originate from africa based migration into india 70k to 40 k years ago ..... where dravidians originate indegeously by surving Toba 70 k years ago
The Eurasian Heartland: A continental perspective on Y-chromosome diversity www.pnas.org/cgi/content/long/98/18/10244 … Jwalapuram: Stories Buried in Ash... Read More at www.livehistoryindia.com/amazing- india/2017/06/28/jwalapuram-stories-buried-in-ash Ancient humans left Africa to escape drying climate phys.org/news/2017-10-ancient-humans-left-africa-climate.html Modern Humans Wandered Out of Africa via Arabia voices.nationalgeographic.org/2011/11/03/modern-humans-wandered-out-of-africa-via-arabia/ twitter.com/physorg_com
Rakhigarhi DNA showed Indus valley civilization was Dravidian.
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Thank you sir for enlightening us!
Et si on arrêtait de dire”indo européen” et de le remplacer par indo iranien,,,,ce serait historiquement beaucoup mieux,
But why are they teaching history in IIT
IIT's me archeology , geology etc etc bohut department hote hai... Sirf mechanical and chemical engineering nehi hote hai...aur bhi bohut sare departments hai
@@subhajithalder1241 he did mention he was in the archaeological science department
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Of course the Aryan migration is true. Genetic research basis Y DNA (Male DNA) says so. Earlier researches were based on mtDNA(transferred from mother to Daughter) leading to conclusion that there is little or no external infusion in the male gene pool. The current research disproves the earlier theory, which had its base wrongly calculated by disregarding Y DNA data which has a strong presence, as evidenced by the recently concluded research, in the Indian Lineage. Y DNA research is important as the migrants had a strong gender bias - in other words they were predominantly Male
Certain points that are derived from the research:
There was a mass influx of migrants at the time of Indus valley civilization collapse, but there is no evidence to prove or disprove that the collapse was because of migrants.
Genetics research leads to conclusion that they are mostly upper caste people
Study points that people belonging to Indus valley civilization might have pushed to Southern India
Sanskrit and Rig Veda, was brought in by the immigrants
Conclusions from the paper:
1. The first argument was that there were no major gene flows from outside to India in the last 12,500 years or so because mtDNA data showed no signs of it. This argument was found faulty when it was shown that Y-DNA did indeed show major gene flows from outside into India within the last 4000 to 4,500 years or so, especially R1a which now forms 17.5% of the Indian male lineage. The reason why mtDNA data behaved differently was that Bronze Age migrations were severely sex-biased.
2. The second argument put forward was that R1a lineages exhibited much greater diversity in India than elsewhere and, therefore, it must have originated in India and spread outward. This has been proved false because a mammoth, global study of R1a haplogroup published last year showed that R1a lineages in India mostly belong to just three subclades of the R1a-Z93 and they are only about 4,000 to 4,500 years old.
3. The third argument was that there were two ancient groups in India, ANI and ASI, both of which settled here tens of thousands of years earlier, much before the supposed migration of Indo-European languages speakers to India. This argument was false to begin with because ANI - as the original paper that put forward this theoretical construct itself had warned - is a mixture of multiple migrations, including probably the migration of Indo-European language speakers.
The fact that you talk about caste shows your arguments lack any scientific credibility.
@@qwertyman9560 How is that? The studies found the DNA of the Aryans is more similar to the Upper castes from North India? What is unscientific about that? www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-46616574
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BBC , British broadcast company (UK)
Which always tried to break India from past years and steal it's wealth
Through spreading hatred .
@@navneetnavneet4252 Not really. BBC is highly factual and reliable media. The one trying to break India is Modi and the Godi media, the media sponsored by the Indian govt. Here's another reliable source, The Diplomat magazine. thediplomat.com/2019/01/unraveled-where-indians-come-from-part-1/
@@rohanshinde4327 haha......"here is my pados wale uncle's statement about he being the father,he's factual,he must be as he is not from my family"
lol
He does a great job of rejecting the invasion theories, and discussing Indian history books. But recent genetic work shows that there has in fact been several waves if migration into India. scroll.in/article/874102/aryan-migration-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-new-study-on-indian-genetics
What R1a1?
It's a joke nowadays.
You read an article from the scroll and come into a intellectual lecture 😂
Nevertheless ever heard of the Yamnaya tribe, please do so before accounting any other bullshit!
History of Sanatan Bharat is Puranas of billions of years.History of other civilizations r of 2/3thousands years.
Without this understanding fool historians will wander in darkness.
Utkal, Akhand Bharat.
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i think this guy should have showed artifacts like from the ancient caves in india and ancient statues, it would have helped a lot. and I always wondered why the lips and noses were knocked-off or shot-off the statues in Egypt and india? I think it was done to hide the true identity of the true people of those lands,and he did not cover this in the video.
Dwight Howard Muslims deface "idols"
what are they doing walking around that stone and kissing it? it don't look like they deface idols to me.
Yes they do have in past Still to this day just like slavery and pedophilia it's all good in islam
The entire lecture is invalidated by David Reich / V Narasimhan's paper.They show a precise movement of Yamanya people all the way to swat valley.
ancient history of india has been systematically destroyed ....this dicussion seems to me more logical ..similar is of sanjev srivastav....
Proud Indian Aryans
we are one
Who?
This theory is proved correct through DNA analysis. 2017😁😁
I am appalled by keep saying Afghan rivers, while it was not the name those regions at the time rig-veda or whatever! Please revise ur knowledge of names of today's Afghanistan. And use the correct names of those regions... So students are not deprived from the actual history and name the nations and people and region of today's Afghanistan.
I would be thankful if u consider my comment.
Best regards,
Naweed
Aryan Boy this is propagandist video by Hindutva. purpose of video is to make Aryan were native to India not Central Asia. video full of lies
Mani Kandan ,the prof clearly asks for proof of aryan home anywhere apart from India described in the rig Veda ,no .why you call it false propaganda ,submit any proofs if you have any to contradict this .just don’t say shit .aryan belongs to Indian sub continent.
ferzy09 where is this fictional indo European race lived ,any archeological evidence of their existence,indo European is term only used for languages not for a race of people ,what language did these indo europesna practice,plz let me know .
ferzy09 how do you prove this point that these indo Europeans,moved to India ,if they have moved here they would have made the reference from where they were ,ok if you think they moved from Central Asia or Europe only a part of them would have moved right ,then where are the accomplishments of the major part of them who were still in europe or Central Asia ,plz .
ferzy09 if they are more high tech ,show me the cites they have build ,tools they have made ,at least show me the proof that they ,existed plz
It time to take kids out of schools.
History books need to be edited loads of mistakes in history books.
Yep, put them into RSS shakhas, Madarsas or Churches. We need religious education, not actual scientific education.
Aryans are indigenous ppl of india.. they are not out siders... Aryans are not caste or religious.. Aryans referred to the great noble.. Arya are local indigenous ppl..
Dravidian is the foundation of hinduism which is older than Sanskrit..
Indian civilisations , Vedas, Yoga, Upanishadas, River Sarasvathi, Aryans, Dravedians are older than 10,000 BCE. Astronomy go back to 27,000 BCE.... Ancient Indian civilisations had trade with many parts of the world......which may lead to exchange of culture, people, language, Moreover education tourism was at its peak.....etc. India was united by the culture and pilgrims.
sukalpa s do you have proof for your facts?
Aryan Gene mutation not old than 4500 years.
Dravidian Gene mutation 50000-65000 years old..
Tamil word found in rig veda and Hebrew, Harappan proven to be deciphered to Tamil.
check with authentic data, don't bluff and make yourself fool
It is no longer a controversy. People have realised that it is a conspiracy.
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out of 1000 sites only one site found horse, that too they had doubt beacuse it has similar with wild ass.. 😂😂😂
it very clear wild ass is fabricated as horse..
out of thousands of bull seal and artifact only five to six was found to be horse, that to suspect to be broken bull artifacts.. another fabrication... 😂😂😂
Meghalaya Ridechennai horse seal also found
Meghalaya Ridechennai wannabe Aryans. Go find your own history
The lecturer contradicts himself.He told the saraswati river dried up around 1900 BCE and the rig veda is composed around 1200 BCE.
It is clearly written in rig veda that the saraswati is the mightiest of all rivers even comparing it to the indus.
+nishant saha
I think, what he means is that, Rigveda was orally passed from one generation to others which was finally penned down in 1200 BC
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In history we never use the term "people say".It leads to myth making.
I agree rig veda is older than 2000 BC but only the paleo channels of river saraswati can give a rough dating.
he didn't say it was composed in 1200 BCE. 1200 BCE is the date AIT/AMT folks usually give for its composition because Vedas were supposedly composed by Aryans who invaded/migrated into the subcontinent around the time of the decline of IVC around 1900 BCE.
If you listen carefully, he says that the dating of the drying up of sarasvati indicates that Vedas were composed much earlier. In the beginning he also briefly talks about the astronomical evidence, which also points 3rd or 4th millenium BCE as the time of the composition of Rig Veda.
nishant saha
He never mentioned that the rigveda was written around 1200 BC. He said that is simply the accepted view.
Rig-Veda was composed earlier than 3000 BC.
The British not only looted our wealth but also our culture and our existence.. hope all the history books that we are taught are re-written with proper facts and this idea of the Aryan invasion should no longer be told anymore.. British had started dividing india long before Bengal Partition by intruding the concepts of aryans dravidians tribals etc.. how does every Hindusthani know the same gods and goddess and the great epics if we were really different!!
I have one question to the professor or anyone who can answer.. do we have any explanation on how the cremation process might have changed from burials to burning?
Saraswati is a river in Iran.
anand ram , nope
actually it is in afghanistan helmand river
@@tsukiyomi4133 no, the characteristics of helmand is not matching with the river sarswati in RV
Absolutely butchered the aryan invasion theory lmaooo
Who is watching this in 2030?
Aryan as per cultural means explore adminstrative region and Dravidian cultural exploration of governance
This is like using the Bible to prove that the earth is 6000 years old.
Mohamed al Yahudi booo
Because war was not a thing in that culture that's why horses are not glorified.
a book that talks about cosmos ,sun moon stars constellation their attributes just some how hide their original homeland in steppes is laughable 😂😂 😂 they are jealous that baap to sabka hindu sanatani hi hai mane me dikkat hai inhe bus zero se leke 1,2,3 aur pani se gand dhona sabh humne sikhaya hai duniya ko hamare gyan se janwar(insan) admi bana aur in western culture se chutiya
great to see a "professor" with ZERO qualification on genetic research, or in any other domain for that matter, and NOT ONE peer reviewed paper talking about scientific studies! way to go iit!
As an academic, I can tell you papers and citations mean nothing, all the more in today's day and age of publish or perish. In fact, a lot of malicious content is "authenticated" and seen as established "proof" through journal publications. I would give more credit to this gentleman's logical arguments compared to junk in the name of scientific work.
Naive discussion and lay. The Jews want to remove the word Aryan Race and Swastika from the planet or create a confusion on this. The first credible mention of this Race is mentioned in the Rigveda-Avesta very similar texts with nearly the same language. This Race is thus indigenous to Northwestern Indian subcontinent and parts of touching Central Asia. The color of this Race was from Gandum (wheatish in Sanskrit-Persian) depending on the climatic exposure for long periods. Southern Iranians and Punjabis can be quite dark due to harsh climate. Most Indians and Iranians are Aryans. Simple example of original untouched Aryans the people of Gurez (Kashmir) Bharat. Most Indians have never met these people of Bharat, who still live like the original Aryans lived. These people are physical giants and defeated the huge force of Emperor Akbar soundly. Their language Shina-Kashmiri is a Dardic language linked to the Kalasa people See these Indians: czcams.com/video/cOeroIunKzs/video.html