Best Smart Thermostat for 2023
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Utility bills are getting more and more expensive, and prices are only going up. Here is a way you can regain control over those bills, by fitting a smart thermostat and heating system. We take a look at Tado and Honeywell Evohome.
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--SMPOST--Struggling with rising energy costs? Invest in a Smart Thermostat to reduce your heating costs quickly and easily. Here's my favourite: - Věda a technologie
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I agree about the cloud comment, I don't want my schedule held in the cloud. I want a stand alone system independent of any broadband failure. I had the Hive system and this had the same problem and it just became an ornament on the table when the boardband failed, just as the Tado would.
This is why I 'm replacing it with the Honeywell system which holds all configuration and schedule data locally in memory. I also note that EvoHome supports geofencing as of June 2022.
Brilliant information as always. But can you answer me this... Does the Tado system still operate its smart functionality if your router / broadband go down? I know that the Honeywell HR92 TRV's do operate using radio frequencies, and will still work even if your internet goes down.
The reason I went with the Honeywell Evohome is its ability to function on it's own..
It doesn't need cloud services to do 95% of the stuff it can do, and when the day comes that honeywell pulls the plug out of their evohome cloud services your system will continue to function just fine for years..
The moment Tadoo pulls the plug your system becomes a regular thermostat that can't even follow a schedule anymore..
That is probably why the honeywell is much more expensive, the base station does most of the work it does not need cloud services to make calculations and do stuff..
Tadoo will only be a great system if you integrate it into a home assistant with it's own RF functionality to control the knobs directly which is currently not really possible for the Evohome without using the cloud API (which in Honeywell defense works just fine)
But I dont like relying on cloud services the day I can control the HR92 valves directly from Domoticz or HA I'll be switching too it and dump the base station..
Totally agree, and we must condier that cloud services will soon be or already are with montly fee.
Very helpful. Could I control two properties with Tado app? I need to control mine and my mum's.
Hi, just bought second hand Honeywell system, actually thought it had the system knew whether I’m in or out. You mention on your video “if this then that” can you send the link. Thanks
Full integrated tado user. I cannot see my house without it. Aprx 30% bill reduction.
hey, thanks for your review! just a quick one, i purchased 5 trvs for the rooms i will use the most, can i still keep the normal trvs on the rest of the radiators and they will still heat up as normal?
question: I work abroad 8 weeks away, 4 weeks at home, this means I'm often away in the winter, is there a system I can use to remotely switch on my heating while I'm away if we have cold snap?
Another question. What happens when the internet crashes like ours with Vodafone does about once a week or so?
Does Tado have something to control hot water tank? Or is there a smart thermostat product just to control the hot water?
Hi. I also have the evohome system. I have it connected up to Google home. However is there any way to connect the hot water cylinder sensor up to Google home
I've had the Evohome system running for around 3 years. Reduced my gas bill by at least 50%.
Ive been looking at the Drayton wiser system for my house. More affordable and excellent features. Thanks for the video. Im not sold on these products
I got the Tado room thermostat starter kit that controls the boiler and 4 TRVs 3 weeks ago. Now when I work from home I can have the small home office bedroom warm without heating the lounge, and as I'm not supplementing with my oil filled radiator saving electric too. I won't know for sure until a full year has passed but the feeling at the moment is it will pay for itself in 2 years. A colleague has had Tado for 4 years and said the batteries last 18 months to 2 years. That Honeywell adjustable display looks like a proper overcomplication of a design!!
Thanks Simon! Loving my tado still! 👍🏼
I have the Evohome system and firstly it does exactly what it's supposed to do, can't fault that. What I do think is ridiculous is that a company as prestigious in the world of controls can't make something as simple as geo fencing work, nor can it data log temperatures, when the system was firing and which smart TRV call for the heat. It's like they made it as basic as possible and have no intention of upgrading in line with its competitors as you've already paid out handsomely for the kit
I'm from Brazil. Why am I watching this? Dunno. *shrug*
You just have nothing else to do.
great video - can you clarify one thing - should the tempreature go down in one room does this then the trigger the boiler to fire up and then turn it off again when the programmed room temperature is reached ??
Exactly this.
If at least one room is calling for heat, the boiler will fire up and warm up just that room, without heating up the other rooms (providing they are already up to temperature)
Can the Tado TRVs trigger the boiler to come on or is that only done by the main thermostat?
Does the Tado system work on it's own independent network like the Drayton Wiser?
Yes exactly that, it triggers the boiler to come on.
You’ll need the controller plugged in or the app won’t be able to do anything though!
Like someone said, for how long the Tado will work? It could easily be game over within 5 years. Nice review 👌
With Amazon being a investor in the company, they can move all users to Amazon servers which is going no where.
This review should have included netatmo
Late to the party on this one. How do these so called tado smart TRV's actually measure room temperature ? 20c by the rad, is entirely different to the temperature at the other side of the room. Do they have a built in offset for this ? or is it only measuring the temperature at the Rad ?
In my home office room the radiator is on the small size, as it's meant to be a bedroom. The radiator is on a lot and I was finding my wall mounted digital clock with thermometer was only reading 18 when the Tado said 20, possibly because the radiator was heating the stat. There is an offset, settable in 0.1 degree increments. Adjusted this by 2 degrees and it's great. The separate wall thermostat would be nice but could get rather expensive.
Tado or hive mini?
I got the Tado EU model but seems not to support Hot Water and Heating.
Did anybody manage to get this connected?!
@@PeteMatheson thjs is what I ordered but when looking at connections it does not have 2 x On/Off connections.
I am just lost :/
no mention of the wiser system as I am comparing wiser and the Evo home the only thing I can see so far is the wiser and equally the tado is lacking a visual interface, we have an older person who lives with us so app baised system for them would involve too much pain for me dealing with it ware a clean touch display in one place to change things is better.
The other thing putting me off is the wiser system uses ZigBee on the same 2.4ghz band as WiFi and dect so it's quite a busy band in our house.
Also tado dose it work if the internet drops out?
Check this out: support.tado.com/en/articles/3477781-what-happens-when-the-internet-connection-is-temporarily-lost-can-i-still-control-my-heating-or-air-conditioning-using-tado#:~:text=Can%20I%20still%20control%20my%20heating%20or%20air%20conditioning%20using%20tado%C2%B0%3F,-Written%20by%20tado&text=When%20the%20internet%20connection%20is%20lost%2C%20you%20can%20control%20your,the%20mobile%20or%20web%20app.
If anyone's got a workshop or summerhouse they want to heat, look into a diesel heater, you can run them on red diesel.
Nest Sensors do allow you to control the temperature per room...
UNFORTUNATELY..."The Google Nest temperature sensor is only available in the US region as they are not designed to work with the EU version of the Google Nest thermostat. They will only pair with the US version." - Google - July 2022
Not mentioned here. If the internet goes down, so does tado...honeywel not
Installed Tado last year. No heating at all if the internet drops out. No range extenders. Often hear the boiler running at night when the heating is off. Giving up and watching this to decide what to switch to.
Don’t buy tado unless you live in a small house with thin walls and perfect internet.
Tado or Hive?
Tado or Hive? 🤔
You know what would save even more energy than the Tado? Getting rid of your 19th century boiler room and radiator heating system.
A few things to consider... First off, not anyone is willing to give-up his/her/its location to a Chinese company, allowing those to do whatever with the data and on top of that having to pay for the "service"... We live in an era in which people who value their private life , dismount "smart" home systems ad not the other way around. Next thing to consider is the communication of the devices in a large European home (300sqm, two floors, concrete). That won't work. It's barely possible to get a decent mesh network to cover all rooms. Next is the question if you would buy a brand, about you don't know anything, rather than one with a reputable history of reliability? Noise... Both are terrible! Why not stick to traditional (HERZ or Danfoss) passive radiator thermostats, keep your privacy to yourself and have a decent main unit, which can also be controlled from anywhere in the world? You might say that you won't have the ability to do zone adjustments... How about planing ahead of leaving and having the radiators set to what is needed? I value m privacy more than the few (very few actually) bucks able to save, if ever (subscription and so on)...
it comes down to convenience and having a smarter system. The big convenience is obviously being able to control everything remotely if necessary, which is great for when you forget to lower the heating before going out or want to come home to a warm house. App based scheduling is part of that because it's great being able to adjust things whenever and wherever. Smart rad valves build on top of that and are a great investment in a big home. Networking issues can be figured out easy enough. Now the decision is whether someone in China will actually care what your heating is doing.
@@person8203 [Now the decision is whether someone in China will actually care what your heating is doing.] Right! And for this reason I went wit Viessmann and the entire Vitoconnect (that is how they call the device which does the remote trick) logs-i to their Germany based server... Works like a charm. Also, the Vitodens 100 has AI and handles perfectly a scenario in which you don't even have to do a schedule... Super low bills! Happy new year!