In Defense of Crowbcat
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2024
- Crowbcat released his Resident Evil 4 Original vs Remake comparison video...and people are not happy. He took a controversial stance and suggested that the new game is Soulless, which is a bit extreme, even for me. So why am I defending him? Similar to free speech advocates, I will defend controversial opinions because I am tired of the modern youtube landscape full of shills and the Zoomer NPC hivemind. That said, I will still give his video some critique.
#residentevil4 #syntheticman
@crowbcat
0:00 Intro
3:01 Intro Sequence Comparison
4:23 Graphics, Ambiance, and GmanShills
8:08 Cutscenes Comparisons
10:51 Krauser Critique
11:50 Death Animations
12:32 Why I Prefer the Original
14:01 My Main Critique
16:54 Conclusion - Hry
The heart of the problem is that people on the internet have become obsessed with the idea of having only a singular objective view of something.
Meanwhile, here we are, the ones that enjoy both games and knows the negative points and positive points of both games and lives happy with them, because at the end of the day, is just a fucking videogame.
You can't like both or neither. You must choose one or you are wrong. And if you choose the one I don't agree with then you're also wrong.
@@WhirlingMusic I think it‘s more about aknowledging each others views. People have legitimate reason to hate the remake. People have legitimate reason to like the Remake.
When people start to make up lies and demonize their opposing views, then things blow up. It‘s hard to make out if someone is being genuine, mislead or actively malicious. Everyone is capable of that no matter what opinion they have. Here though? Personally believe Crowbcat more, slapping on "it‘s cherry picked/biased/edited" sounds sus.
No matter what ya do, someone‘s gonna hate ya for it. :/
I‘m strongly on the side of the OG and do hate the Remake for being unfaithfull/censored/yada yada yada. I don’t wanna suck the fun out of others and don’t pretend the OG is objectively perfect or anything. It‘s a form of Art, Art is subjective.
I just started playing the OG for the first time yesterday, but know the story/characters for a while now, these games are centerstones of gaming and Internet history at this point. Personally just have a big appreciation for first time experiences being as close to the original as possible in general.
Someone who plays the Remake first will have no idea what people are on about calling it "trash", it‘s because it‘s a remake, of course it‘ll be compared to the original and accordingly judged. There are people who like both, be it cus they take value in each ones different aspects, or cus they just had a good time.
What I don‘t like however is generalizing and alienating the OG fans for their views. Both sides can be petty af, but more often than not I hear "old good, new bad" slapped on people to shut em up, and there are sadly lot‘s people mindlessly exaggerating the Remake just to p*ss people off.
Sorry for this long ass rant.
@@chrisspeed270 aight we were going somewhere, but that last sentence of yours is just the usual BS.
Wow, absolute fact
I do miss the original inventory menu. Having Leon make a unique stance with respectfully unique animations for each equipped weapon was a really nice touch. I always liked seeing Leon passive aggressively tossing the egg when equipped.
Yes. Also for each character in the Mercenaries + Ada in Separate Ways + stealth Ada in Assignment Ada. Shinji Mikami shall not be usurped 😎👍
I don't know what happened to modern UI designers.
@@chrispeng5502 too minimalist. Just compare the intricate medievalesque hud of AGE OF EMPIRES 2 with the modern minimalistic one of AOE 4. Night and day.
@@SIGNOR-G This minimalist style feels like a plague to gaming UI. Learn something else game designer.
@@chrispeng5502 challenge: trying to make a stylish game (impossible)
3:44 Crowbcat was also trying to show that in the original, Leon kills what appears to be a hostile Spaniard "It's not a zombie"- the plagas are saved for a big scary reveal in a later chapter.
Tbf I feel the beginning of the games changes were intentional, they wanted to surprise players of the original in the same way that there were deliberate design changes in the remake of the first RE
@@yaboil7774 I think so too. I'd prefer first-time players get to experience the build-up/reveal like in the original, but I get both ways have their benefits.
IMO on revisiting that scene, it looks like Leon breaks into some dudes house and shoots him when he tries to use an axe to stop the home intruder.
I agree the original makes less sense. Leon basically for all he knows just murdered somebody in their own home. Leon also not knowing a lick of Spanish in the original is also really silly. Still, I find this to be a better introduction because it’s not trying to throw a lot at the player immediately, and it gives the player more room to learn the game mechanics. The remake just tries to be spooky and doesn’t really care much about acclimating the player.
@Megamax
The original had a lot of nonsense.
And not the good kind.
I knew Gman was fake /v/ after his Shadow Warrior 3 review where he wouldn't even touch on the race swapped voice actor and basically gaslit anyone who did care.
He didn't even say anything and the consoomers still had a meltdown.
He didn't need to say anything you clown. The title and clips said it all. Dude is delusional, calling a great remake soulless. Soulles swas RE3 remake. RE2 and 4 were amazing. Dude just says anything to be a contrarian.
How dare you criticize muh soulless corporations
That just proves they could clearly see the downgrades without even being told
@@spider-man4460 how dare you criticize MY favorite billion dollar company
I dont even think he dislikes the remake. I think he fully intented on pissing everyone off and then changing the video title to piss more people off
The man really made the entire fanbase seethe without even saying anything. Absolutely based
I was about to say the same thing, absolutely legendary 🤣🤣🤣
How can you be so cringe with so little said?
If your gonna make a blunt statement… you have to at least prove your points and explain why. Crowbcat’s video I disagree with but at least respect him for forming his own subjective taste and opinion. I just hate the fact that we need either bootlickers on either side without forming your own opinion
@@cloudshines812 seethe
@@Aether776 SH sucks
The internet has a weird obsession with not having normal conversations where you listen, understand and disagree but instead turn everything into a series of “gotcha” moments
It's been that way since the beginning.
Yup. It's annoying.
I mean hes calling the remake 'soulless'.
He's asking for it lol
@@kevinsteelflex7371 it's his opinion on the remake, don't know why that "soulless" words really threatening your soul to be mad.....
Half of youtube comments are like "Hah! Gotcha! Owned, seeth, coping mechanisms, dialation! Epicly Pwned" that 4chan lingo is getting really old
One thing crowbcat should have done was right before he showed all the cut content he should have showed Capcom's tweet that said "Nothing has been cut in the remake we have only added".
They seriously tweeted that?
@@trontosaurusrex9532 don't know if they tweeted that but they said nothing has been cut lol
This comment didn't aged well
@@spider-man5544How come?
@@spider-man5544 imagine defending cutting content on the base game to add it as dlc , once again og shows it better
The Demon's Souls remake is soulless tho. I will die on that hill. They changed the artstyle so drastically for the sake of photorealistic graphics.
You know what? I can respect that, personally I don't think it's *that* bad but I do think it is pretty lackluster in the art department. That always happens with remakes smh even the Battle for Bikini Bottom Remake had that trouble for God sake.
@@maylabrown4584 No, I don't think it's bad by any means. It looks really good, BUT in comparison to the original's unique look and thick atmosphere, it feels incredibly inferior. Especially the enemy designs.
@@backupschmliff1156 Agreed and man I def agree with the enemy designs, that was a bit of a disappointment too lol
I never played the original but played the PS5 remake and LOVED it. Is this some kind of personal attack or something? (sarcasm) But that's basically how people took Crowbcat's video.
@@Beforezzz The PS5 remake isn't bad by any means. It's still Demon's Souls, however, they changed niche artistic aspects of it to make it more generic fantasy.
This whole situation reinforced to me how borderline illiterate a lot of people are, at least on CZcams. I made two comments about this controversy, one on Crowbcat's video and another on the video he linked to regarding the audio thing. Both times I got more comments debating a point I never made and completely misinterpreting what I wrote than people understanding what I actually said.
People are so far gone now. They will do or say anything so they can be in the right.
@@mwahahaha2100 Absolutely deranged behaviour honestly. At least I had some fun in the comments sections of those videos.
TRUE! So many CZcams replies are clearly from stupid people.
I've lost count of the times I've replied "Go back and read the words I actually wrote, then think really hard and try again."
That's why I don't comment anymore. You have to oversimplify everything and I'm sick of it.
Exactly,both sides are acting like children and it’s getting tiresome
Crowbcat's content used to reflect the general census for a game, mostly in his videos on obvious total disasters like Andromeda, Ouya, Lawbreakers, etc. He attracted the hivemind by going for easy targets (still entertaining, don't get me wrong) and now he gets a taste of what happens when you piss on a hypetrain. It's like a mortal insult for some people if you aren't on board with the current thing (positive or negative), even when it's really just an opinion about a video game.
I think its actually going back to his roots in terms of his content.
Yeah for a while there he just covered the absolute shitstorms that everyone agreed on but if you check his older videos a lot of them weren't the "popular consensus opinion" or anything it's just fanboyism was less rabid back then for whatever reason.
His top critique videos:
Shitting on the Nintendo Switch at launch
Shitting on Ubisoft as a whole
Pointing out ways in which GTA 4 was better than 5 to spite 5 being almost universally praised
Then theres Andromeda and Cyberpunk which fall into the shitstorm category
Shitting on Watch Dogs even though it was fairly well received at launch
Pointing out TF2 downgrades
Shitting on BF1 for being buggy (another very well liked game)
Pointing out ways in which Far Cry 2 was better than 5 even though 5 was well received.
The list goes on. He was never purely a "lmao look at the trash fire guys!", for a while there he covered quite a few trash fires but most of his videos were aimed at fairly well received games and in some cases loved games like GTA 5, TF2 and BF1.
You can tell he rushed out the RE4 comparison video out
i think the issue is that for some reason people watch his videos as if he is making some amazing point and they agree with the point being made but didnt agree this time, so they are mad.
I would be really surprised if Crowbcat didn't realize this video would cause backlash. I mean its pretty obvious considering how shill culture is nowadays. None the less I respect that he made the video.
I think to hate on something just because people you don't like, like it is rather bad.
Plus, it's always a thing to keep in mind that both of those men are cashing checks from these videos. So of course it's a plus to be controversial, both demographics are gonna be watching here, those who liked it and want to defend it, and those who don't.... making the paycheck thicc
It's too good an opportunity to resist when you have no principles, and you want that sweet sweet dough.
This game surpasses the OG IMHO because they started off with a strong basis and they stuck to the OG game. RE4R is a polished diamond as some have suggested. OG is still great, but that was more of a diamond in the rough situation and IT SHOWS when you play the new one.
If you like your childhood or are nostalgic for a time period, it's okay... I get it. But I am not going to downplay the work of an entire team who clearly loves the source material and managed to do it justice in the remake because some people are nostalgic, and to hate on something popular is an instant cash grab.
It's not fair, and frankly despicable. Plus, pulling a Kardashian in 2023 by creating controversy? Sure will make you money fast, but in the long run, I don't see it paying off.
Seriously, no one is gonna comment about all the unnecessary yellow paint everywhere in the game? Is the thing that annoys me the most on the remake, even the red barrels have yellow paint
It's in every RE game after RE7.
Finally someone that mentioned perhaps the mods annoying issue with the remake, glad we have mods to remove it
@@mr.sinjin-smyth idk it feels like re4r got more of those piss prints
@@thonato295 I don't remember those being in the remakes, I look some footage of re2 and 3 and I didn't find them
@@ericjorge5365 those don't have as much as 4
gmanlives has always been a big shill for popular games
He was literally shilling for cod modern warfare poo. what a joker.
I'm so tired of people internalizing the products they consume as part of their identity. Someone criticizing something you like doesn't mean they're criticizing you directly, nor does liking something that isn't perfect make you a garbage human being.
I like the Senran Kagura series. Is it great? Absolutely not. Is it coomer bait? It absolutely is. Do I get mad when people criticize it? No - it's just a game, it isn't me, and people are entitled to their own tastes and well-reasoned opinions when it comes to media or anything else.
That being said, if you leave the Senran Kagura games exposed prominently on a shelf in your home, they make for an excellent shittest when you bring a girl over.
I like the SK series too, but it’s an ecchi series first and everything else second (which is why I like it). It’s too bad Sony and Marvelous went woke and killed the series (my advice is to not buy any future product, Marvelous is crazy right now).
I agree, my life improved a lot when I stopped being a “gamer” and grounded myself in my local sphere/religion instead of materialism. I think if I still held “my personality is my games” as king, I’d be way more irritating. I feel for the new gaming generation for sure, I think they’re caught in that trap.
Shinovi Versus is one of the best games ever made, non-ironically.
That's really at the core of most of these entertainment related topics: "I LIKE IT THEREFORE ITS GOOD AND ANYONE WHO DISAGREES IS ATTACKING ME PERSONALLY" meanwhile sane people can easily go "I like it to spite its flaws, oh you're criticizing it? fair, has plenty of flaws".
You don't need to rate your favorite things 10/10s because they're you're favorite, obviously nobody can be completely objective but everyone should strive to be as objective as POSSIBLE not the "well you can't be 100% objective therefore everything is 100% subjective, therefore my favorite game/show is a 10/10 and you cant tell me otherwise!".
Petty tribalism at its finest. People who act like insulting a product they like is insulting them personally deserve to be mocked.
@@gabagool6572 yup
Its a form or tribalistic mindset
In modern terms since the computer age, they are also called “fanboys” or wankers
The dialogue "downgrade" definitely was to avoid twitter rage threads. Apparently terminally online tweets are too much to handle for multi million dollar companies. Lmao.
The dialogues were fine, but not as sharp of silly, which was one of the charms of OG RE4. It's so... serious in the remake.
I also recommand @TheElectricUnderground 's video about RE4 as well, he focuses more on the gameplay mechanics and why he thinks the remake is a huge downgrade from the original
Need to check it out, thanks
I have played both and no, there's no way that the original is better than the remake SPECIALLY in the gameplay mechanics lmao
The remake has better combat than tlou
At least that
I'll give it a watch but in all honesty I smell bullshit. The two games are incredibly similar in combat, you can just move freely and also move+aim in the remake. I get some people prefer the OG's combat to the remake's, hell I still really enjoy the OG's combat to this day, and I can also get preferring the OG's to the point of being a bit disappointed in the remake's. However, to call the remake's combat a "massive downgrade" is pure hyperbole, no two ways about it.
Almost none of y'all got what the OP meant in his comment. The OG RE4 did indeed have older gameplay mechanics but what ElectricUnderground masterfully points out is that the old mechanics existed ans evolved from the previous entries FOR A REASON and were built with a specific purpose in mind - the tension. And thats something that comes only from a delicate balance. The new mechanics make it too easy and drop the tension so the devs had to amp up the enemy attributes like speed and rush and dodge etc. to compensate. But with nary a thought put into how it affects the balance. Newer isn't always better. Worth a watch as long as your bullshit smelling nostrils and prejudiced presumptions don't color your objective thinking ability 🫡
Taking out "I am only 20 years old" was a crime against God
And the lasers scene
The interaction overall would be more hilarious given Ramon's new design.
@@Hellion_One oh god it actually would've been hilarious
They did? I guess Salazar really is supposed to be an old man this time around.
One thing I genuinely love about this channel is the fact that it almost never boils down to just one side of things. You mentioned some critiques of Crowbcat’s video while also defending some of his points at the same time. You didn’t just make this video to diehard defend him or fully shit on him and I respect you for that.
The moment that sticks out to me the most is when Leon falls down the trap door, instead of a cool grappling hook backflip b movie move, he just catches a random chain
More realistic I’d assume
We really want realism in a zombie video game?
@@BoleDaPole
I'm fine with a gritty realistic resident evil but that should be done in a new game. Watering down the charm and unique flavour of re4 to be realistic is one of the biggest copouts. Some of the changes are just so boring, generic, and forgettable, compared to the style of the original.
It amazes me how many people shilled for the remake throwing away the charm of the original. Re4 isn't some serious, prestige narrative, it's a fucking B movie 80s action flick, campy, spooky videogame. The remake should have embraced its roots instead of being ashamed of the weirdness and cheese.
@@BoleDaPole I can suspend my disbelief, if I’m having to do that the whole game though, it takes out of it, it might not for you and that’s ok but everyone has their preferences with gaming, I got my 60$ worth
@@lordphill807 RE was never "realistic" and "serious" series. RE aimed to capture the B movie horror genre. I mean... just look at the over the top ridiculousness that happens in first 3 games. When I thought they can't go more over the top than Nemesis, I get 4.
I find it funny that everybody loved Crowbcat when he harped on Turtle Rock and 343 and EA, but the second he touched Capcom they suddenly get up in arms about it. It's like all Japanese games companies share the same Nintendo cult-like following where anybody who criticizes them is treated like a Communist sympathizer during the 1950's, even if the company does something genuinely shitty. I fully understand why you made your video about how "gamers" are the ones really killing gaming.
They're being conditioned to kill gaming, and that's really the sad part about it. People don't seem to recognize the conditioning taking place.
I don't think it's just Japanese companies that get this treatment. Not too long ago CDPR had this level of cult following where any critique against them was considered blasphemy. There are just certain companies that are above criticism to the common gamer. Unless Capcom screws up like CDPR did with Cyberpunk, don't expect them to ever receive as much negative attention. It will take for something truly big to shatter people's image of the company.
Uhh...he shat on the downgrades from Dead Rising to Dead Rising 4, a Capcom title, pretty hard and that wasn't controversial.
Japanese devs really do get a pass on basically anything, like all Fromsoftware games basically being the exact same thing (and just boring in my opinion) and having technical issues on every game release that they never fix but you're not allowed to point that out because fromsoftware can do no wrong.
@@traxtan6694 as much as I love soulsborne the fans fucking shield Fromsoftware if you try to criticise the games.
everything about krauser sucked ass in the remake, yes the gameplay is objectively better but if you think about it, they made it gameplay because they can't manage to make a single fucking decent cutscene XD
Real. Cutscenes in the new one are terrible. The old dialogue at times was cheesy, but the new one it's dull or awful, like knife man edgelording or Ada talking.
@@coldeedand thats why the remake gameplay is way better than the original its just game no more qte or cinematic bs
@@dxtremecaliber wtf do you think parrying is mongoloid? That's a qte.
The most heartbreaking thing for me personally was that I never got to say some of my famous one-liners again like “your right hand comes off?” Or who could forget about “Sadler, your small time.”
If I have a pair of sunglasses on me, I would’ve put them on right there in that moment.
For me it was "No thanks, Bro".
@@Baron4827 Don’t remind me, there’s a reason I didn’t mention it.
huh
>Sadler, your small time
>your
Knives are faster rookie
"[GMan] is like in his late 30's, talking like a zoomer on twitter"
He's also married with a kid, which makes it extra embarrasing...
Bro for real! All these 7 out of 10 games getting labeled "masterpieces" and people quickly moving on and forgetting about them.
It happened with Hi-Fi Rush too, but very few seem to recall this since that game came and went just as quickly...
@@ToastyCubes the special thing with hi-fi rush was that it was just a short great 8 hour game for only 30 euros. nothing to make the game feel longer just to be longer. just 8 hours full of fun. cant play many modern games anymore cause the campaigns are so long but so empty in the same time. sure, saying instantly masterpiece is a bit to much but it was pretty much a blessing to see a game taking more risks and not going full mainstream.
IKR?! the word "masterpiece" gets thrown around alot for average games.
Couldn't say a bad word about GOW Ragnarok, now nobody knows it exists.
@@mwahahaha2100 clearly you do
That “Gman acting like a zoomer” bit was hilarious. That’s just your average 30y/o Twitter user.
It goes hard
@@panuru9175lmao
He changed it back
Edit: what’s wild to me is seeing people shit on the OG game when they didn’t even play it or we’re alive to experience it. Your cash grab remake wouldn’t even exist without the OG RE4.
Hell the damn game popularized 3rd person action games. It was a freaking trend setter.
That's why I hate when people say "you're just blinded by nostalgia!!" Bitch, the remake wouldn't exist without the nostalgia, as you said.
@@mwahahaha2100 they cannot fathom the idea that someone would prefer an original.
@@DirtyDev Or you can fathom the idea people like the remake. Both are good games no need to shit on the other for clicks and views
@@mwahahaha2100 I mean in this case i agree but lets not pretend like there's not a billion instances of people being blinded by nostalgia shall we? In fairness i see this more in terms of shows (usually anime since I've ditched western shows after GoT ended) where people will absolutely suck off shows that are horrible and the reasoning will be "because i grew up watching it"...
@@DirtyDev It's the opposite scenario where some of fans of the original Resident Evil 4, cannot resist criticizing every aspect of the new game. This behavior seems unjustifiable, given that some of these people spend most of their time discussing the remake, while the original version remains a masterpiece to be enjoyed. Perhaps some individuals desire a 1:1 remaster instead of a remake, but it is unclear why they feel the need to incessantly voice their displeasure towards the new game.
It's kind of funny how simply comparing the two games without saying anything can make people mad.
That "Soulless" in the title said too much.
He put the word "Soulless" in the title. And if you watched CrowbCat's videos. That's literally the channel's brand of critique. Letting the video speaks for themselves. CrowbCat's video on Cyberpunk 2077 still holds up. That game deserves all the ridicule it get. But calling RE4 remake "Soulless"? I disagree with that. A lot of effort was put into the remake and the VA for Leon is clearly passionate about his role as Leon. And the whole remake is an amazing game in itself. The devs expanded a lot on it. Krauser has become one of my favorite characters now. So no. RE4 remake is not a soulless game. Whatever that supposed to mean.
Bro put "soulless" on the title bruh
"Hey, this new Resident Evil 4 Remake which has 97% Positive reviews out of tens of thousands of people on Steam has no soul. Wait...why are people mad?" -Crowbcat probably
The internet gave stupid people a voice.
Why is the remake so much darker?
It's a cascading effect. Developers both rely too much on dynamic lighting now (as opposed to baked lighting) and they also don't texture assets in a way which helps the environments pop. Similar to waveforms, if you were to look at a color graph of a modern game there is more visual noise but less variation of it. Crash Bandicoot 4 is a very notable example of this, lush colorful environments which appear darker and soulless because the engine and textures are not suited for the art direction.
Looks generic, like unreal assets
@@ToastyCubes Oh good, someone else who sees it. I'm tired of the new lighting that makes shadows or anything more than 20 feet from a light pitch-fucking-black, especially with a washed-out palette that also makes it difficult to see shit. Real life doesn't look like that, and real lights don't work like that. Dynamic lighting is more realistic in a tech demo, in theory, but the overall result is often not.
The one thing that i 200% agree with is that the remake feels "heartless", the lack of humor and the characters in the remake just don't do it for me
It removed humour and campiness and became serious and boring. I'm all for serious stuff and all that, but here it just falls short.
@@anubis4695 With the current prices, you should do that for every game. More often than not, buying game asap means you are paying for being beta tester
You’re in the minority, the remake is a blistering success heralded as a fantastic game to the masses and casuals. Corny campy humour and weird Japanese ideas don’t fit into that mainstream. The game is designed and marketed to western audiences.
It’s really not hard to understand, it makes perfect financial sense.
They literally took out the line where Leon flirts with Hunnigan. No amount of shipping bait he has with Ashley in the remake will make that okay.
@@phalanx8437 it reminds me that games are getting bigger and more boring. they may have a giant map but it feels so fcking empty. games who are taking more risk but more short are better than the stuff we get nowadays. i want my corny campy weird ass japanese humor back.
I wasnt even aware that people were mad at this video lol.
Redditors, the remake seems cool, but it does lack the little touches.
I recommend staying that way, being unaware of meaningless e-celebs drama is good.
From Gmanlives to Gmanlies.
"im so out of touch?"
Best part of the comment section was about sound and how they fixated only that. Its few minutes in the whole video, but that was all people "talked" about. And even that was about how Crowbcat sabotaged sound of Remake or something.
Honestly thats most CZcams comments. The amount of top comments that point out something that happened in the first few minutes is overwhelming.
People would rather find some fault to disregard the entire thing, then find something where they can disagree and have a reasonable discussion. It just comes off like they agree, and are finding any excuse to pretend not to.
When the video first dropped people were actually discussing the comparisons and sharing their opinions. That didn't last long before getting derailed by the twitter gang.
GManShill was not the only capcom shill having a fit that Capcom tr00n dude was also mad that someone was not praising the remake.
Sphere hunter I assume? They annoy me greatly but I can't say why...
Under the mayo is probaly one of the genuine Resident evil youtuber that can still call out any game flaws since he is one of the veteran resident evil player slowly see Capcom change of direction.
Don't be so harsh on Synth's girlfriend...
@@splash_067 Because it's a man
@@splash_067 Yeah it's the Spere Hunter dude. The annoying part might be the fact that it is a dude trying to be a woman and it just looks and sounds unnatural.
Just a reminder that Gmanlives was given free tickets to quakecon 2018, and conveniently, when fallout 76 launched in november that year, he was one of the few youtube reviewers that saw nothing wrong with the gameplay and design changes 76 had, his only safe critique being about the bugs. Needles to say, even his audience roasted him for that, but the point is, almost every big yt reviewer can be bought with free stuff by game devs.
Other examples are the positive reviews for the launch version of cyberpunk by Yongyea and Alanah Pierce, she herself even being in the game as an unkillable npc, and both of them played a preview version before launch and still gave it good reviews
To be fair, preview versions are mostly just a mission long, maybe showcasing different routes you can take for games like cyberpunk, and usually they polish these sections up as as they can. If this is all they based their review on i can see why it might be positive, although you should only talk about your first impressions if all you saw is a preview like that but seemingly the whole gaming community thought this game will be the second coming back then. If they had the full game before they dropped the review then there is no excuse.
this is exactly why IGN gives 7/10 reviews for mediocre games that should have been rated 4/10 because they don't want to piss off the people that feed them.. the reviewer never gives the score, the score 100% comes from above.
@@brotbrotsen1100 That's kind of the point. If journalists are given review builds and given a pinky promise everything will be fine on launch, they gamble their credibility by backing a full product with a score they could not possibly have issued by playing a cut version.
Yong is for sure is a leftoid or libtard but he is smart to not inject his politic into his videos so it is watchable.
If you "cancel" someone over a video game it is 100% proof that humanity society is doomed
Those types of people have literally nothing going on in their lives
Gamers were a mistake- video kojimbo
@@estacion7386 no gaming bee coming mainstream is a mistake
@@aceclover758 definitely.
Except no one cancelled him?
Crowbcat did nothing wrong. I respect the fact he had the balls to have a non-hive mind opinion.
When a game is good it's all of a sudden "hive mind" yet no one actually takes the time or brainpower to think hmmmm, maybe the game is good and this guy just wanted some attention.
@@larkan511 The game is good but the remake isn't a passion project like the original. It's a product developed to cash in on the original's popularity. It lacks character.
@@larkan511 When a game is good (not great or perfect) and people REFUSE to accept that the game is flawed or that a different game might've done things better, then we have an issue
What balls ? Did you miss the part where he briefly changed the video's title to "Resident Evil 4 Remake is a masterpiece" as a form of passive-aggressive cope ? He has no integrity and is a coward, the backlash clearly bothers him.
Liking a game that’s good isn’t a hive-mind if you like something popular you’re called sheep/hivemind, don’t like something you’re called out for trying to be different lol
Adas voice was atrocious.
For people to say "Oh it's not bad! Come on you nostalgic millennial!" is peak weimar coomsoomerism.
I also have another issue that probably puts me into the minority, but I am not really a fan of this photorealistic looks they force on their new games. Casting models and scanning faces. The game looses its charm way to quickly. The older Capcom games each of them no matter RE, DMC or whatever had a distinct art style that I enjoy to this very day when I boot some of their games. Each has an unique style that aged like a fine wine and only adds to the charm.
On the VA note, I would add Krauser too. While he was not as bad as Ada, he paled compared to the original VA.
Interesting, as someone who doesn't care and planning on playing at a discount, I don't find adas voice that bad. Every opposing perspective doesn't have to boil down to hyper consumerism..
@Desire Less I can at least see what Krauser was going for. The unhinged sociopath type.
Ada at one point loses her place reading her script and it's painful listening to people defend what's objectively bad.
@@Th3BigBoy indeed. And hey it didn't ruin my experience of enjoying the game, thankfully is not trying to be "muh HBO drama" like God Of War Ragnarok.
I played it several times, I really like the game, but I miss the arcade-y fun factor of the original.
@Desire Less Same here. I found myself smiling a couple of times and enjoying myself as well. The game was good, no doubt. Though I was hoping for more banter between the villains and Leon.
8:35 I'm very glad you noticed this. Yes the cinematography is worse. That include the Krauser QTE scene which was one of the coolest moment in the game and they didn't need to change it, it could have been shot in the same way first and then you start the new boss fight
Kinda like Yakuza games dynamic intros
wonder if capcom intentionally didn't show the boss mutations as an example either because they were pressed for time and couldn't finish it in time.
Or you didn't feel like doing it because why? everyone buys the remake anyway, whether they're in it or not, 99% of the players won't notice or miss it anyway and if they do, they've already bought the game anyway.
I don't know if it was that bad in Re2 and Re3 remake, but I think it was scaled down there too. Why is the question. Can't you make it look good or is it too much work?
This! I loved that QT moment just for how well it was edited and put together. The original RE4 was a masterpiece and I don't say that lightly or use it often, but it was one of the few games -- along with JA2 and the original X-Com trilogy -- that I replayed countless times, unlocking everything possible, from the extra outfits to the Tommy Gun and the new modes and characters. I loved that game so much.
@@alandanger6285 "I happen to be quite a Yakuza fan myself!"
What about crappy Ada's VA.
When did "I disagree with you, but I'll defend your rigth to speech" turned into "If you'll say something I don't like, I'll cancel you on twatter"?
The moment you allowed bundles of sticks to "demand" thing, demonized "bullying" and women in positions of authority.
@@J0derVIVIVI The last is the cause of the firs two.
@Vilis1337
2016, when Trump ran for president and the mainstream media started cancelling people for supporting him. I know it's a hypothetical question, but there's the literal answer to it.
@Vilis1337 seems sexist but what the fuck do I know about any of that? Pfft believe whatever you want to, sexist or not.
Deja Vu. When did we let the scientoIogists take over gaming? You can't even lightly criticize an obvious cult without the whole internet flipping tables over it.
Act Man has also been sperging out pretty hard at people criticizing the remake. He's made posts on Twitter saying that if you like Ashley's panty shots in the OG game then you don't belong in the gaming community. Pretty funny stance to take given he once made a now deleted video claiming that he was an advocate of free speech (in said video he even used the n word and bundle of sticks term).
People tend to forget Act man used to favour...certain sites, that these days would put you on cancel row. Its funny how he said people looking under skirt are degenerates yet same people bust a nut to questionable stuff on internet.
@@ExtremeMan10 most of these guys don't follow what they preach.
@@headshotmaster138 True, it always makes me chuckle when some redditor calls you incel for lewd stuff yet same guy has loli picture or something worse.
@@ExtremeMan10 Always. They can't help but tell on themselves and are usually projecting wherever they call you an incel.
@@ExtremeMan10 no you guys are degenerates because you unironically complain about it that you can't do it.
I don’t care about anything other than Synthetic Man taking shots at GGGmanlives. That is entertaining me the most and I’m entertained by them both.
I thought I was the only one who can't stand that guy.
Uff
Most people raging on him didn't even read the description.
The description is misleading when in conjunction with the title already telling you exactly how the creator feels about the games
@@Regularguy2nd the dude is always negative with each video do you really feel like there neess to be a disclamer.
@@Regularguy2nd tbh from a music/sound design perspective newer resi games does feel a bit "mute"..
The description is a limp "B-b-but that's just muh opinion." type disclaimer.
Which just comes off as absolutely pathetic when you sit it under the ridiculously and intentionally polarizing title.
I actually agree with Crowbcat on Krauser. That fight cutscene was really entertaining to watch in the original, it made Krauser look and feel like a total BA and his voice actor was FAR superior to the new Krauser that sounds like a guy with a normal voice trying to force himself to talk deep.
So is Leon. The OG Leon has one of the best voices in human history.
@@Tony-xs4eg Paul Haddad was a good fit for Leon. The other two not so much, but then again, those are not RE games
I don't feel that it was Jim Ward''s (Captain Qwark) best performance (I think the issue was direction) but it's a damn sight better than what we got here. It's a shame he has dementia now.
My biggest issue with RE4 remake is it’s not the same Leon in both games in the original Leon is confident and in charge of pretty much every situation he’s in where I’m this new one he still seems like a rookie like in RE2. One thing I thought Crowb was pointing out in the Krauser scenes was actually how Krauser treats Leon as such by calling him a rookie while in the original Krauser calls him things like Comrade and how they both know where they come from things that show he acknowledges Leon as a equal to a extent.
Its because. Leon in Re4R is continueing from RE2R, where he is atill feeling the effects of surviving Raccoon City and having failed to save anyone there, or even make a difference. His relationship with Krauser is now a mentor student relationship while OG RE4 they were actual comrades who went on the mission Operation Javier, so they were equals.
I think it falls under personal taste and to be frank, I think this was a crwative change to turn Krauser from absolute evil to a symphathetic villain, I think because Krauser was cool in 4 and they then brought him back as a main playable character in Darkside Chronicles, they probably wanted him to be less of a dick
Based crowbat. Real gamers know electric underground said this shit would be worse than the original wayy back when the game wasn’t even out
Electric Underground is a very underrated youtuber. Mark has said before that he hates being too negative but every video he's made trashing new releases has been a treat. I've yet to see a single person try and refute his critique of Bayonetta 3 LOL
@@occiderisaethiopissa3702 I totally get you. The “nothing is good forever” sort of scares me and I hope he stays the way he is. I can see things going a bit south if he collabs with people outside his field. But as long as he doesn’t. Hopefully he should be fine
@@ToastyCubes @RVR-01 "Gauntlet" This got me curious, as I enjoyed Bayo 3 (story sucks, but gameplay is fun). Especially as someone that played both 1 and 2 when they came to Wii U. So I decided to check out his review and why, in terms of gameplay, he doesn't like it... Well it looks like you got your wish, because I'm going to refute some of his critiques, with timestamps from his review.
After watching his "review" several times and looking closely, it's quite clear he didn't even beat it. In fact, I didn't even think about checking until now, but his "review" released literally ONE DAY after the game released, and there's no mention of getting an early review copy (legally have to disclose). So when he mentions at 7:47 fighting the same 5 enemies “at least for the first 2 hours” he really means it. This dude only played 2 hours and made a whole "review" out of that. What a lying hack. The game has flaws, and a lot of modern games suck, but strictly saying you dislike a modern game doesn't make you reliable or accurate, but that's the angle he's trying to grift people with. "Don't worry, I'm not like other reviewers." Synthetic Man actually streams his games so you can tell he's played it, but he also tells you how much he's played and _shows_ later scenes along with being very explicit about his critques. Mark just mentions surface-level criticisms (histun, ranged vs. close combat, non-combat sections) and repeats ad nauseum. He tries to make comparisons to other games but shows absolutely random footage without explaining the actual differences.
Heck, he didn't even play past at most Chapter 3 out of 14. Not even half the game, lol. There's no footage past that point (the only other demon you see is the spider... introduced in chapter 2), he only uses the default weapon (4 guns) and demon (Madama Butterfly) and later mentions at 7:47 about fighting the same 5 enemies “at least for the first 2 hours”. Along with some of his critiques being wrong or can be fixed if he played further or unlocked moves for even the default weapon. He didn't even talk about Viola, the new playable character... because you don't unlock her until Chapter 5. Granted she's barely in the game comparatively, but it's still a few hours of content worth mentioning since she plays quite differently. Especially when these games are all about replay value, and you can at least play side-missions as her (not proper chapters where Bayo was playable though).
It's worth remembering that just because someone claims they're "anti-mainstream" doesn't actually mean they're honest. They could be, but they still have to _prove_ it. Saying so doesn't make them trustworthy by default. And if you do, it's no different than people thinking IGN or Gamespot is trustworthy simply because they're "professional" viewers that have to follow rules.
I'll split my critiques into two sections, "Meta" which is stuff outside the game like development and "Nintendo's influences", and then the actual game/"review" itself.
--- Meta Commentary Critiques ---
He claims Nintendo is making it less sexy, but Iwata told Kamiya the Zelda costume in Bayo 2 should show cleavage bc being sexy is her thing. Current Nintendo CEO is a businessman and leaves up the art to the artists. The days of Tharja's butt being covered in FE: Awakening are long gone. Also, Xenoblade has sexy designs. Same with Fatal Frame, she can be in a bikini and get her clothes wet, lol.
This game has gone through development hell. Lost a lead left mid-development and they scrapped an open world concept. _That_ is going to have an effect on the game. You’d think if he loved the series so much he would’ve at least been aware of the troubled development. He also never mentioned Bayo 2. How can you talk about the downfall of a series you supposedly love, but skipped out on one? It came to Switch 4 years before Bayo 3, so there’s no excuse.
@@ToastyCubes CZcams keeps deleting my comment (doesn’t even have bad language).
I did make a Google doc with a comment that scrolls down to the review critiques, but I’ll try to summarize here (Google Docs: 18kcIAIRgMlr3so-yn7OI8a-bPY389Sk5J0qQcEITGoo/edit?usp=sharing).
A very very short summary is he complains about things that aren’t actually problems. Like “only 5 enemies in the first 2 hours” in a 15 hour game, with side content and optional bosses, lol. Or that a jump uppercut is an overpowered move because it locks enemies in the air… by showing it on the basic enemy. Then he uses it for virtually every other enemy and boss, which doesn’t work and isn’t even a good choice to rack up damage. This is because you have to unlock individual moves and he clearly didn’t. Which is why he complains about ranged combat being the “focus”. It’s not. He just didn’t use other weapons or unlock options for the default one because he barely played the game and didn’t even check the menus. Controlling d3mons isn’t even mandatory for combat (although useful for breaking a few shields). Plus it’s limited time and leaves you open to attack, AND if they’re hurt too much they’ll attack you. You can’t use them all the time and it’s not even a good choice.
He doesn’t know what he’s talking about and he expects people to truth him solely because he says review sites are untrustworthy. Not by actually proving he’s worth trusting. I will avoid his content and I suggest you pay very close attention, if not leave. He’s playing the “I’m not like other reviewers” card without actually proving himself because it’s an easy way to build a niche. Makes viewers feel like they’re getting the “real” opinions which could be just as or more biased/corrupt.
@@mrshmuga9 Jesus Christ dude.
11:16 I'm pretty sure crowbcat was saying the atmosphere and execution/dialog was MUCH cooler in the original. I mean, if you play the remake, Krauser puts his knife on Leons neck and doesn't kiII him. Only talks to him. While in the original, the entire time Krauser is trying his best to kiII Leon. Only responding to Leon to distract him and AFTER delivering an attack.
I agree wholeheartedly, the dialogue and voice acting in the original was just better overall. I think he was using the Krauser Knife scene to compare not just the dialogue, but also the quality of the voice actors.
Wow, Gman seething like that? I was already considering unsubbing from him as his content has kinda declined, so I guess this is confirmation to go ahead and do so now.
Just what i was going to do
Damm, he just could say "remake sounds louder bruh" and dont go to hard with the replies
Because remake has this kinda improved audio quality that differs from the original(not the same)
In Defense of the Re4 Remake:
- Why don't Crowbcat choose The Last Of Us Remake for the video? Its a wayyy better example of soulless.
-Original games always have "untapped potentials" imo
- Im fine with criticisms, sometimes agree with it. But use them to call something entirely "soulless"? Fuck no!!!
Hey your 2 cents is always appreciated man!!
He literally didnt say anything
The rage this has caused in just comparing the footage between the two games is soo stupid
Crowbcat did nothing wrong
"Crowbcat did nothing wrong" there used to be 30k comments on the video but then there ended up being only 27k which can only mean one thing really, he deleted over 2000 comments that were criticizing his video. But atleast now the description of the video is accurate to the title and content now
The title is what's wrong, Crowbcat is a great youtuber because his videos are subjective, just form your own opinion on the footage, but here he used a specific title.
@@Regularguy2nd dude that is probably just the youtube bots. The comments going down from 30-27k isn't worrying lol. I doubt the dude hand picked and personally deleted 3k comments. Think for a second.
@@SillyRiz He never said which was soul and which was soulless.
He’s allowed to have an opinion.
4:00 I believe you are missing the point. In Crowbcat edit it clearly shows us leons reaction "not a zombie" just a regular dude. In the remake, the first thing you shoot is not a "normal" ganados, is a zombie ganados. That removes A LOT from the tone and the uncomfortable feeling that you are killing civilians, its just a monster now.
Crowbcat was absolutely right. RE4 Remake is just like Unreal Engine 5, as is one of the greatest tech achievements in gaming, both lack and fall in the pit of mediocrity, they lack art of passion and recognition in the long term. Art is what keeps the game alive, sound is what keeps the game tattooed on your memory, and RE4 Remake missed the mark on that. Anyone can do good graphics nowdays, even the indie developers, it's the core feel that the game gives you what lasts forever. I hope we get past the "Remake phase" of gaming soon, GTA SA broke it for me 2 years ago, and now this. I am not saying that RE4 is bad, it's just that they don't appreciate what developers did back then, it wasn't just a technical limitation to put fog on, but a manifestation of spirit of the game as well.
PS2 games are still fun for me
ok buddy does that excuse crowb chagning his title twice in the face of people disagreeing with him, and then deleting, no shit, every single comment mentioning the title change, on top of whatever accusations he has for manipulating footage. He titles the video soul vs soulless and then in the description says "come up with your own conclusions". Its not his opinion that pisses people off, its how he handled people disagreeing with him.
Gameplay is what matters at the end of the day. And the remake gameplay is miles ahead of the og.
Great argument there man. We aren't counting the number of polygons on screen or the decibels, but the intention behind it and how well the devs did.
@@soulzor gameplay is NOT everything
Crowbcats always been a back peddler. I still remember when he made a positive vid on a vr game he liked (sprint vector) and deleted it cause people called him a shill
A coward indeed
lmao you don’t understand why he changed the title? 😂
he was literally making fun of people with the change of the title, or are people so retarded they do not get irony
To be fair Sprint Vector lost a massive amount of the population that played just like most VR games from around that time. He may have liked it, but it didn't stop it having flaws which ultimately drive the game to death.
Crowb cat has removed a lot of videos, either because they were old or he himself realized it was cringe taste.
The vast majority of people are no longer able to form their own opinions.
They require other people to form an opinion, then they either agree and copy it, or disagree and try to silence it. This is why things like this happen and people get so bent out of shape at content creators when that creator suddenly holds an opinion that they disagree with.
People need to stop thinking that any one person is going to hold the "correct" opinion 100% of the time.
Here's some solid criticism. The voice acting ain't the best. The game is hella dark and Leon doesn't take out his flashlight near enough. In Silent Hill games you can turn on your flashlight whenever you want as long as you have the batteries to do so.
Well to be fair RE was never known for its voice acting. No one expects RE games to have Last of Us quality acting.
at least the ganados are spanish now lol
"who the hell would prefer a cutscene qte to a boss battle"
No one but the fact that action cutscene required you to be ready to fight back was so memorable and unique at the time that every game up until 2013 copied that mechanic.
Funnily enough, a handful of comments here do prefer the QTE'S.
btw GmanLives called Ben Garrison (the guy who makes those ironically funny Boomer Comics) an "anti-sematic cartoonist" in his Moonman Doom mod review lmfao. That tells me everything I need to know about him.
Thanks for that info. That's an instant unsubscribe for me.
Ah!!! More evidence he is a Jim Sterling in the making, had no idea he was this advanced in the process since i do not Twitter.
@@BuzzingGoober Same 😂
Sounds like he thought the pol edits were real.
Ben garrison is literally that though. Although they’re still funny regardless.
What blows my mind is people are so bug-like and npc brained anymore that they need CZcamsrs to tell them when something is ok or not ok or to explain the nuance in certain subjects..lol
Ikr?! This is the reason why I stopped watching reviews.
@@thegamingprozone1941 it's just weird after a while
Was disappointed because of the lack of memorable atmosphere, but couldn't find any review about it. They are all saying that it's a masterpiece.
@@Ale-kc9pq graphics are good and the game doesn't shit itself during gameplay,10/10 masterpiece
@@Ale-kc9pq the ruined the atmosphere because they didn't understand what made the original good and honestly why are we remaking games anyway? I want something new not ANOTHER remaster. Movies are the same way it's because they know people will eat up the slop no matter how shameless or bad it is. People really just cannot help themselves from buying it watching this garbage so it will continue.
The menu is the same from RE7 through all RE Engine games. It is soulless as f*ck. Like, seriously, hire a freaking designer, it shouldn't be that expensive. No, they give us grey squares with default font, like it is some Unity engine game...
I really don't like the people who say "that's was trash in the original". Carried by the euphoria of the popular success of this remake they believe that anything is better than the original. It just not, i could list hundreds of things that suck in this remake. starting from the cut contents, the music, to reuse of assets, the interiors of the castle is the same of the interiors of the Pueblo houses, wet brown bricks everywere.
Yeah it's just blatant bandwagoning. It would be one thing if people's opinions on OG RE4 slowly changed over time as game design paradigms shifted.
But that's not what happened. RE4 was the best game ever made a month ago and now it's not because the remake came out.
Somehow despite having a completely reworked gameplay loop and different direction/style it's just magically better at everything the OG did.
@@SpadeDraco the remake fucking sucks as a whole, we DID NOT NEED THIS
@@SpadeDraco And then those same people I've found are quick to throw out "nostalgia goggles" rebuttal if you state something you prefer about the original, completely unaware that recency bias is just the opposite side of the coin with nostalgia.
Seperate Ways dropped and its a masterpiece
@@MakaveliDior it's a separate fix for the missing things in the base game
In my opinion the gameplay of the original is far more skill based than the remake. In the original, the laser dot does move around and shake, but you always know that the bullet will go where the dot is pointing. Leon’s movement is limited, but you always know exactly where Leon is going to go. The controls are tight. In the remake, you just have a general range in your crosshair where the bullet might go. Leon moves sluggishly and there’s always a degree of variation in the controls.
I love RE4 original and remake, but also think Crowbcat has a point. Modern remakes have this tendency on completely taking away the humor and walking on eggshells to not piss off certain crowds. I'm glad someone that big called them out on it.
I really find it astounding how people missed his sarcasm with his title change shenanigans.
NPCs can't process anything by themselves, you need to point it out for them
He forget to add /s, then his target audience would understand.
@@brendlowert5772 "Oh, the alphabet people are behind all of this."
They do not watch the video. They only read the title and the description so they genuinely thought he changed his mind and was backpedaling.
@@luisconquistador2375 I always baffeld when things like that happen. People regularly link articles and videos as proof nowdays with the contents actually disproving them.
I agree with him. The remake is good (around 7/10 as you said) but the original still is better. That's it.
The amount of people who believed he changed the title for a while because he genuinely changed his mind because of the backlash was mindblowing..
This is how most people "think" now. We're fucked.
So many people nowadays do not understand humour, sarcasm, edgy, snarky, witty.
The reason for this is censorship and being banned when talking to people with mics. People are such pussies now
He sacrificed his point to make another point. I also caught that and in the beginning I thought people were just shitposting... But then I realized they were serious... And then I understood what their misunderstanding was.
Thats not it. I was a mega fan of the original, and the remake is better in every single way. People like these like to state things as facts and then get all pissed off when someone disagrees and try to turn it around on them. All these kinds of people are hypocritical. Your falling into that category
@@WinterWolf_Edits a lot of people are correct when they say they are 2 completely different games. Leon plays different, the rules are different and we have sweatty tryhard modes so people can brag I guess. But no one is asking is it fun?
@@desireless4092 same story, same characters, same bosses, same level design, many shared set pieces, same weapons, same items, same areas, some even same rooms. The original is the same as the remake but has dated controls, worse graphics, and worse voice acting
im surprised crowbcat got so many dislikes
He decided to release a video at a different time from his.
A time where men are advocated to wear dresses and diapers and not be expected to be labeled as a pdfile.
@Charlie1234500 What? Bro, literally made a video game critique video. That has nothing to do with being manly. wtf? He got dislikes for other reasons but nothing to do with masculinity or being emasculated. C'mon now touch some grass as video games are meant for escapism, never about masculinity.
Lol
@@charlie1234500 go outside
@@mysteryace2129 Actually, it's about people who can't handle opinions.
It's weird hearing his name said out loud. I always read it as "Crow-B-Cat"
I always thought it was "crowbat" 😅
Crobby Cat ❤
i call it Crowbar Cat
His full name is Crow Bartholomew Cat
@@splash_067 same for the past 5 years, he also had Claude carrying his signature baseball bat as his channel icon so yeah made sense to me
After the last Crowbcat's video I only started to respect him even more because he didn't go mainstream and reflected what I have in my mind.
What's wrong with "going mainstream"
@@Specopleaderyou aren’t forming your own opinion but instead getting influenced by others, basically one really big echo chamber. Was stuck in it for a few years, looking back at it now I was really immature back then.
@@genoob5843 Thats a simplification and narrow understanding of majority opinion or mainstream opinion.
@@Specopleader whatever
@@Specopleader mainstream opinion always reeks of conformity and bad taste.
Gutwrenching gross out death animations need to make a comeback. Good deaths elevate the gameplay, atmosphere, and horror
See, it’s a double edged sword. Specifically edged. Or edgy.
On one hand, a bit of violence is fine for more... grotesque games. But sometimes it’s just plain boring or off putting in a bad way when it’s done tastelessly. That’s what a lot of gore has become these days, so I don’t trust for a minute that anyone can pull it off. Until I see it.
@@cityguard4847 what take is this? Gore definitely adds to the horror element as long as it's not cartoonish which most of the time in horror games it's not, you shouldn't have to water down violence in games cause pussies can't handle it
@@cityguard4847 It's survival horror - it's more or less mandatory for it to have some of the most twisted and creative deaths imaginable and there are certain games within the genre that borders on being "tasteless" or were so incredulously over-the-top that it becomes comical. Kinda comes with the territory.
The actual issue is managing to upset the player in the first place since everyone has become desensitized to virtual violence but personally, high-pitched tortured screaming or characters gurgling in their own blood still makes me feel nauseous.
@@cityguard4847 OG Resi 4 balanced it very well I think. There was so many ways for Leon to die and it never felt gratuitous to me. It just felt like the "severe consequences" Leon faces if he let's his guard down and it was brutal.
Shareholders don't agree.
Oh yes, somehow i knew that you gonna make this video. Thank you king! Crowbcat deserved some justice.
It was a L take
It was a cope bud, keep seething, based crow
@@AntiSocialismo50 ok, and? 😂
@@Macheako like a lot of L takes from this channel. This guy just rant.
@@Macheako it's a clear troll, just ignore him.
RE Engine ruined Resident Evil. I miss the MT Framework era.
Ruined is a stretch, but it's pretty obvious now how limited it is.
We're witnessing the "Dark Souls 2 Effect" in real time.
A game comes out (RE4 2005) and is beloved and enjoyed for hours upon hour upon hours for what it is. The flaws are acknowledge but overlooked and played around because the core game itself is so dynamic, so replayable, and so much fun.
Then the shiny new product comes out and instead of enjoying it for what it is while acknowledging the timelessness of the original, we eclipse it with revisionist history. The previous version goes from "masterpiece", to "flawed", to "a product of its time", to "actually kind of sucked", to "bad", to "how did I ever allow myself to play that garbage".
I believe most of us here realize that products are a substitution for personality nowadays. You want your consoomer habits to reflect what you want people to think of you. New is good. New is "fixed". New is best. Like with most subjects nowadays, deviation from popular opinion is the highest treason. It means you think to much. It means you can understand when something is bad for you. It means you threaten the status quo.
You mark my words. We're watching, in real time, RE4 2005 become the new Dark Souls 2. Within a year you will have the average "gamer" ranting about how it was an awful game, up Leon's ass constantly, Ashley was unbearable, the guns sucked, not enough freedom, etc. You'll see every minor complaint used as a cudgel to revise history about a beloved title from a better time. All it will take is some well known internet personality to make the right video or post the right tweet to mold popular opinion overnight.
The Elves and their lies, my friend.
The Elves and their lies.
I disagree...in time the OG will only age better because it has the more top tier cinematography, charm, direction & style. The way it did these things is timeless. In 20 yrs...remake will be forgotten while the OG is still talked about & remembered more fondly. Its happenning now. Re4make isnt being talked about even, ppl have moved now that the recency hype has died down
I don't know what you are smoking, Dark Souls 2 always was and still is a terrible game
Gmanlives is superbly reddit. Even before he got super big, he's never had a controversial opinion in his life. All of his videos are supremely optimized for the algorithm/engagement. Show me an old video of his where he doesn't repeat the same 3 points over and over to hit that CZcams-approved 10 minute mark.
That combined with spewing catchphrases, shilling merch and discord... yuck. Funny how he lambasts Crowbcat when he looks at a easy target and says "how can I drive clicks my way?"
I have to disagree with the Krauser critique, I liked the original better even though it was a QTE because it was fast and sudden. The remake's boss fight feels slow and kind of mundane, even though it should have way more replayability than a cutscene.
I think there's something to be said about people's bias towards certain companies and how much they refuse to ever criticize them no matter what. Capcom and Sony are clear examples of this. Your point about critiquing good games is also one that should be taken into consideration by many. Since people often view critiques as "bashing" or "hating" on a game when that's not always the case. Sometimes critiques can come from a place of love. The problem is that the gaming community acts like a hivemind and there are certain games that said hivemind will never allow you to critique without facing a large backlash. I will say though, Crowbcat is at fault too since his video title is clearly meant to ruffle people up, which he did considering how many of the big CZcamsrs like Skill Up, GmanLives, and Sphere Hunter responded to it. Had he named it "Resident Evil 4 Original vs Remake comparison" he probably wouldn't have gotten nearly as much negative attention as he did.
Valve/Steam are another blatant example.
At the end of the day these companies don't care about you just your wallet.
There's a difference between fair, constructive critique and dramatic ranting like claiming "soul vs soulless". You can actually come to that same conclusion with a more fair presentation/concise arguments and people would be more receptive to it.
Also funny how the moment you may respectfully disagree with Crowbcat's points or way of framing those points and even back it up with reason, a whole defense squad comes at you to whiteknight with some good old ad hominems and strawmanning as well.
@@islandboy9381 I agree, which is why I don't like his RE4 video. And from the way he doubled down, it's pretty clear that the video was meant to enrage people more so than offer a fair critique. The again, Crowbcat did build his entire persona on bashing modern games, and the moment he did one positive video he got called a shill by his own fanbase.
@@islandboy9381 Unironically calling people white knights because you prefer a videogame shows how much of a neckbeard you are
One thing I hate about these Remakes are the ugly/uncanny looking faces. The characters look different in every shot. They might look ok for a sec, then in the next minute they look 50 years old. RE Engine is just not good with faces. Remake Leon looks like he's on Botox.
One thing to remember with the audio is the "original" audio could be coming from GameCube or maybe PC. It was also mastered in probably a 5.1 format or possibly just stereo. The "remake" has lots of different audio settings and a lot of them are... Not great in RE engine. They had to master it for tvs, stereo, 5.1, 7.1, binaural and whatever the format for Atmos is like 7.4.1 or something. Not excusing capcoms terrible mixing, but who knows what audio settings the people recording are using. The dynamic range on G-man lives content could've been on "low" and crowbcats could've been on "wide".
CZcams in general is TERRIBLE for audiophiles because the audio is rarely ever presented in anything but typical stereo. Having 4K video is as easy as rendering it as such, but doing something as simple for 5.1 is obfuscated by the website since not every content creator is into that sort of thing. Most people just listen to stuff on here through headphones.
I do miss the sound design and atmospheric sounds of the originals. Recently played re1 remake and man that save room music is just soooo good!
crowbcat never making a video on last of us PC port is very suspect
didn't make a video on re3 vs re3r, gta definitive edition, hell not even saints row reboot
I'm playing the PS2 version of RE4 in protest of remake.
Good on ya Synth, that “toxic positivity” is a good term. I don’t believe in the common “toxicity” definition, but I’ve definitely seen enough times that only affirming people has hurt them in the long run.
Gmanlives started to hang out with the “intellectual video game” crowd and fell off pretty fast. I think he actually used to oppose some of their viewpoints but he’s tied too much to them now, so he won’t go against the grain.
I think your and Crowbcat’s videos were really helpful in determining that the Remake just isn’t for me. I love the B movie cheese, and the toning down/streamlining of the narrative is a bit too much. I acknowledge the Remake is probably a 7/10 or 8/10, but I much prefer the original package. I think the OG is still going to age better, especially with things like the HD Project mod. That’s just my two cents, thanks for making all the RE videos, since I loved the series from 5 up to the R3make.
Oh no youtuber has a different opinion about the game he must be a shill you guys are stupid also all of the cut stuff for the most part is because it wouldn't fit with the game more serious tone.
Eh, toxic positivity has some merit to it, but it's often times used even against reasonable push bsck.
Yeah, Gman used to be relatively based back in the 2014 - 2015 era. Then again, so were a lot of people. It's honestly pathetic how neutered both CZcams and it's users have become.
@@jondon1079 yeah he made a mistake but crowbcat did cherry pick with the gore by only putting the death animations that are better in the original like why didn't he pick the scene by the regular villagers because in the remake they aren't leon just screaming auuuuuu and dying there is an actual animation of an axe going in his head or the gnadaos stomping on his head until it explodes.
@Yoshismasher
I agree and I've noticed the same with Gman Lives' movie counterpart, Critical Drinker. I used to be subbed to both of them, and I know Synthetic Man hates both of them, but it's only recently that I've started to realize Synthetic Man was right and not just "being a hater" or negative for no reason. I don't pay attention to their social media or what they do off their man channel, so I noticed Gman Lives being a douchebag to critical comments in his own video for RE4make, including my own.
And I've started seeing Critical Drinker show up in guest appearances in other channels I'm subbed to, where he basically implies his whole channel is all an act (not just him "playing a character," which we already know, but his actual opinions on things, too. The Critical Drinker and his opinions are 100% separate from the man himself.)
So yeah, both are basically fake and misrepresent themselves for popularity.
in crowbcats not defense, the title change was scummy, and he deleted all top comments just disagreeing with him, and all ocmments talking about the title change. My comments are gone and many others, and the comments are just filled with people agreeing with him now. A complete 180 from the first 2 days of the video being out.
crowbpedal backpedals on backpedaling his backpedal
@@kage9426 now everyone who watches the video thinks everyone agrees with crowb, and hundreds of thousands will be discouraged from playing the remake.
THANK YOU. There are way too many people thinking Crowbcat didn't do anything wrong in this situation and it's really pissing me off.
@@connivingcat not if they get the browser addon that shows you the dislike ratio
@@kage9426 surprisingly most people don't have it, so people who don't know better will look at the comments for their opinion and only see people agreeing and hating in the game.
Honestly I feel like his biggest critique should have been how soulless most of the dialogue is rather than the game as a whole not saying that the remake is flawless because I really don't think any game is flawless, but never the less I still really enjoyed his video and the fact that people get so bent out of shape because someone has a different opinion to most people is just telling to how far we've fallen as a society.
People have always been put off when opinion didn't fit with the majority. Just look at most religious conflicts.
@@fightingmedialounge519 I mean yeah sure, aggressive collectivism is a thing in religious history, but it's also involved in a lot of things with society in general.
Its also when you just prefer the original and remake fans all attack you and tell you "you're blinded by nostalgia" and completely disregard anything you say.
That would’ve got him canceled even harder for appreciating the “sexist dialogue” and “degrading panty shots”
@@spimpsmacker6422 yeah, I just used religion as the most obvious example.
I commented on a RE4 trailer repost by some youtuber I mentioned along the lines of the game might have updated graphics but the atmosphere of the original was something honestly creepy and the glowing eyes of the ganados when you came back to the village at night with ashley. the church & graveyard was something truly remarkable.
then I got bombarded in the comments saying I'm just clouded with nostalgia 💀💀
Something I relised in the remake but no one mentioned that the tranformations of bosses are cut off unlike the original!
I think they did a good job with the remake but I do think they stripped out some of the charm and fun to appeal to “modern audiences”, which is probably what Crowbcat was trying to show
Either way, I absolutely love the amount of attention each of Crowbcats videos gets, its like everyone stops everything to see what he has to show haha
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@@KratostheThird - Haha, you found me!
i never even heard of the guy before this
Crowbcat is the goat
Best in the world.
goat as in cattle animal lol
@@MichaelDoesLife Oh it's you of course you say that
5:50 Yeah Gman boosted the remake ambience volume. It sounds louder than Crow's
One of the main problems with the video is he calls it a "comparison" and said "make your own conclusions" but CLEARLY it is not a comparison, it is cherry picked for the story he is trying to tell. Sometimes he is right, but if you had not played the games you would not know how much he leaves out.
For example the death animation comparisons are laughable. Does he show that the old game just has you fall over when you explode but the new game has you explode into a red mist? No, because it goes against his argument that the new game is soulless. Does he show a Ganado gouging your eyes out death which was not in the original? no. Does the compare the garbage death sound Leon has in the original versus the awesome scream he has in the new one? no. He shows that the Chainsaw decapitation is gone but does not show that a decapitation was added to the plagas ganados. He also does not show the trash chainsaw death that was possible in the old game with a different chainsaw strike killing leon where it just brushes him and he falls over. And you still have decapitation from scythe wielders and throwers, gigante eating his head, among other ways to be decapitated. Also didn't show the electrocution upgraded animation. Its basically just that he likes the decap chainsaw death more so he puts it in like its some downgrade in death in the new game. Other than the face melting for the insects it is largely a lie because the death scenes are better, and more visceral in the remake. Especially with regards to sound, which he supposedly cares so much about when he shows the ambient sounds. This is the kind of stuff that makes me dislike the video, it is so incredibly misleading that it is essentially lying by omission.
Another example is showing the room with the regenerators lined up versus a room with bags. A better comparison would be the room with the frozen back monster dude and the X-rays of the regenerator faces. The remake makes the regenerators much more viscerally scary than the original where you can see the bodies lined up - but if you haven't played the remake you would think they just have them come out of bags and didn't make the area have creepy shit. Its incredibly one-sided to the point of just lying for the sake of nostalgia.
On a side note about the original scene I think he showed it for the art direction of displaying the idea that these are not "normal zombies" because he shows the zombie part of the remake while cutting back specifically to show the text line "not a zombie" in the original. However, it still does not show that the remake cutscene shows the ganado see you, then walk away to cook, then use a weapon to attack you. Its a reasonable point to say that you prefer being much more blatant about the "not a normal zombie" idea, and I think it was a mistake to make the first ganado become a zombie, but it was not a real comparison as was the case for most of his video.
If his video was just called "some things I missed from the old game" or "I love nostalgia" I do not think it would have been as poorly received. But to call the new game soulless then have such obviously dumb comparisons and lies throughout and showing no improvements the game made while saying its a "comparison where you make your own conclusions" is just horse shit and he deserved the downvotes. I don't know about twitter though that place is wild haha.
My issue with the sanitisation of the dialogue is how it completely changes the character dynamics. Leon in the original game sounded like an experienced professional the whole way through and he commanded a sort of complete sympathetic authority over Ashley that you would expect from someone in that field. In the remake he sounds like a teenager rescuing his sister and with the exact same story I just couldn't buy the dynamic anymore. There's this sort of hesitance to portray her as weak and defenceless when she still is and that's a problem a lot of these woke, sanitised remakes have faced. The narcissistic writers want to correct the mistakes of the past yet also profit off its name, so the skeleton of the story is left intact but there's these surgical changes that have been insidiously made that makes it incongruous with the story it's telling. They have no confidence that a creation of their own would sell so they need to leech off a beloved property.
The dialogue is so trash I'm working on my own dialogue revision for the re4make. Some scenes are on my channel.
This is not a problem of the remake tho
They are matching the kind of tone set by previous remakes.
Thanks, doc.
I know this is random as hell but I appreciate you getting stalagmite right and not calling it a stalactite. So many people get the two confused.
I saw the reactions on Crowbcat's video firsthand. I never realized so much of his audience were very-obvious Redditors. The same ones who do the "wHaT iS wOkE, aNyWaY?" BS and the "yOu jUsT hAtE tHe gAmE cAuSe aN aSiAn vOiCeS aDa!" responses I got to my own comment defending Crowbcat. I fully agree with his video, but the meltdown people were having over it and I thought these were the same NPCs who claim playing a Harry Potter game made you "transphobic." It was that over-the-top and ludicrous. But I guess S.M. was right in that any channel with over a million subs is basically mainstream normie crap.
ikr, it's the same people who think they are above others by using the word "consoomers" and use that one red letter screenshot
@@firestylefireballjutsu2792 Nothing wrong with that, if you then proceed to explain yourself. That's different from the Redditors who just want to downvote you into silence because they have no arguments.
He’s right. People are idiots, and want to fit in, so RE4 Remake is le epic p(reddit) moment, but it’s nowhere near as fun as the original
I uninstalled re4 remake in chapter 12, and no plans to reinstall
The original is way way too easy
u calling people idiots who loved this game shows ur the true idiot 😅
The one about fitting in is so true.
People are idiots and want to be contrarians, so RE4 original is le epic p(reddit) moment, but the new game bad cuz muh nostalgia
@@SHVRWK funny thing is that u are right
i have seen more people like this than straw man argument people that op created in his mind
The crowbcat video was fantastic.
Good video, unfortunately our friend Crowbcat committed the crime of having his own opinion, although it was not 100% successful in how to communicate it
Is Crowbcat secretly a based dude or something?
@@charlie1234500 the soul/souless comparation is from /vr/ so he lurks the chans
@@jonathansibrian695 that has been known for a very long time (if you have been around CZcams for that long)
@@charlie1234500 seeing that he actually touched on the censored dialogue in the video, it sure makes him seem based.
My actual problem with the video was not his oppinion, but the way he presented it (also him cherry picking clips and tampering with audio, that didn't help)
I 100% agree with crowbcats video he is the only one who has the same issues as I did. I couldn't find anyone else that pointed out how bad they messed up the lighting/environments . Completely killed the game for me. That's what made the original RE4 so unique. Thank you so much for making a video about this.
Same
Totally wrong
@@lolsnez7542 Wrong? So that isn't what the killed the game for him?
The fact that there are so many likes on comments but only 14k views shows that this channel probably has an actual fan base who wants to watch other than randomly stumbling upon this video.
A criticism I've really come to loathe since this game was announced is "dated." It's such a nothing criticism. Yes, I agree the original has a gameplay style you're not used to... what's your point? In 18 years the remake will be just as "dated" as the original game is now. Will that mean it's bad? No. Unless the world explodes tomorrow, absolutely no art is exempt from that weak criticism. People like to complain about games all being the same today, but when they encounter something that actually plays differently from everything else, they can't stand it. How many third person shooters play like RE4 Remake? The vast majority of them. How many third person shooters play like RE4 original? Literally only RE5. The stationary aiming and laser reticle both serve a gameplay purpose, and the game is built around it. Age has nothing to do with it. RE4 Remake is a good game, don't get me wrong, I'm on my third play through, but I wasn't excited for it because I knew it would be taking away everything that made the original game so unique in the first place. I don't think I'll be playing it a fourth time. If you want a less responsive version of RE4 that looks and plays like everything else on the market, well now you have it. It even has a forced walking section towards the end, because that's a modern gaming trend we all just accepted for some reason, one that's unfortunately here to stay.
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You did not just call the remake's gameplay more skill based. LMAO. The gameplay in RE4R is way too RNG dependent to call it skill based. In fact, the original's gameplay is the skill based one because you have consistent mechanics that require skill to execute well. The new one has inconsistent mechanics that are literally down to luck.
No skill. Luck.
@@_Mista_X Nice try troll.
GGGManLives used to be cool, he even reviewed /pol/ mods for Doom.
GManShills would never, could never compare.
Crowbat's video is basically my impression of the remake when I see it.
Sure gameplay seems like an upgrade, but everything else is just washed away.
And rip off too, most things are straight up ripped from Evil Within 2.
@@ExtremeMan10 or TLOU
Gameplay is definitely not an upgrade