The Sunken Gunships Frozen In The Great Lakes | Dive Detectives
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- In the depths of Canada’s Lake Ontario rest two of the best preserved wooden shipwrecks in the entire world. The Hamilton and the Scourge have been frozen in time for nearly two centuries.
The gunships vanished in a violent summer storm August 8, 1813. They were part of the American fleet, battling the British navy for control of the Great Lakes during the War of 1812. The ships disappeared in just moments, taking most of their crews, more than 80 men, to the bottom. There is no record of a navy inquest, and the tragedy has never been fully investigated.
The Fletchers join forces with a team of archaeologists, scientists and marine engineers in an attempt to penetrate the wrecks for the first time since their sinking. Guided by the testimony of Ned Myers - a sailor who dictated the only surviving eyewitness account of the disaster - the team work to uncover the truth behind the sinking and why so many lives were lost.
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Who cares about damage, the boat is already damaged and sunk and rotting away. There is literally no reason to worry about more damage, its going to fall apart and rot away regardless. These people make no sense. Pointless to preserve something that no one will ever see other than those that are there. It serves no purpose to save this damaged wreck from damage. People need to find better hobbies.
I was really enjoying this until the director decided there wasn't enough "drama!" "Okay guys, I want you to get your tethers tangled up and we'll do cut away shots to add to the drama. Let's make it look like it's LIFE OR DEATH if you don't get loose in THREE minutes!" So much for "reality" anymore!
Americans always need to cram action into everything. I can't stand this sensationalized style, especially when it comes to science.
Yes, too much BS and not enough documentary.
@@Bassalicious Icebacks aka Canadians not Americans.
The Canadian License holder "Jonathon" needs a different line of work....get him out of the room and hand cuff him to the top deck
As though of us who live right on the Great Lakes know, rogue storms can happen in a flash, and especially since it was a warm night. Cyclonic waterspouts would not be anything to get caught in, and you'd not know where it was coming from in the roaring dark, if that had happened... Each lake has its own ways of creating fatal difficulty. For instance, Lake Erie, where I am, can slosh from one end to the other, with winds alone..it's treachery lies in the fact that it is the most shallow..but we get storms rolling down from lake Ontario, just as much as diving down from L Huron. I'm always surprised, when someone sees the coast for the first time.. "wow, it's like the ocean!! I thought it was just a nice little lake!!" STAY SAFE, DIVERS!! ❤
It must be really friggin cold there💀
even lake st.clair can turn on a dime...seen it many a times
I've lived on Superior and Michigan. They both have their own personalities.
@@792slayer I know!! They're all different :) and then..Georgian Bay!!!
The original air date of this episode was December 17, 2009
There were survivors who gave written accounts of the sinking? What are you researching?
How much money you can make with a staged, overly dramatic action-mentary. Obviously. Nobody was interested in actual science here. It's a US American programme.
There were survivors that did give their account!
There were survivors, so I’m not sure what your upset about
Tell that overly cautious baby to go home
How do you damage a "wreck"..?
You wreck it some more....
I appreciate the effort you put into providing sources and further reading. It's very helpful.
Was worried they might knick a zebra mussel off going through the windows. Wtf
Jonathan radiates insecurity and anxiety. Would hate to work with him.
Great documentary. However when knocking a muscle off is more important then understanding what happen. You get my point. Leave that guy at the house next time, you'll learn more.
Zebra mussles.. Ugh. Wreck won't be whole much longer. Invasive species suck so bad!!
What makes those wrecks survive in freshwater i s also the absence of the shipworm, which can only survive in saltwater with enough salt-content. Thats also why shipwrecks in the east of the baltic sea are so well preserved.
Shipworm?😮
Also the lakes are extremely cold, which inhibits growth
Also, rampant Gonorrhea.
@@tjk_princeTeredo worms. They eat wood. They are the scourge of wooden ships. They taste like oysters, so...😮
I think the wooden ship survives better in saltwater then fresh.
Perhaps 10 minute content stretched to 47 minutes with negligible interior shots and detail.
I’d rather watch a 47 minute video than 10 minute video
Fast Forward lol
2:05 *CUTLASSES* ❤
🗡️ ⚔️ 🗡️
Buddy needs to grow a pair, dive down and push the bot through the window lol.
Always the same story... equipment don't work/damaged. Wreck in question never gets explored...go to a easier most visited wreck. Show the world that you can scuba...and get into great peril and drama (over the top drama) and the view realizes he just wasted his time viewing. All wreck dives is the same ole' damn thing.
Not all wreck dives - all US American documentaries. They're made by and for people who think science is boring.
Watching from Aussie love your enthusiasm for your fishery
If a wreck is going to disintegrate over time then why not just get in there? No nobody will ever see inside now. And it's already a wreck. What a waste of time and money.
Thought everyone knew by now. Dont touch our boats!
How much duck power do you think that boat had?
Stressing me out with all the un nessasary anxiety and blah blah 😮
i wonder how much one of those muskets is worth?
Reality TV style manufactured tension isn't a reason that anyone watches a show like this.
The overseer is way too -paranoid, that ship is not going to crumble if you bump it .
Thanks.
👍👌✌️🗽🇺🇸💪thanks for showing this
That ship is not going to collapse from a bump from am ROV. It has sat there in fresh cold water for 200 + years. Leave it to the Canadians...
Yeah what a joke
The Great Lakes are a lot deeper and colder than most people think, I say this as someone that has gone swimming in Lake Huron in August and came out with mild hypothermia.
the weird part of the history of these two ships was just after they were found the U.S.navy along with the army corps pf engineers offered at full cost to themselves to raise both ships give one to canada and keep one in buffalo to fully restore and every once in awhile swap ships or have visits(remember these are USA ships anyway) what a generous offer, Canada and the city of hamilton which owns the rights to these ships said no, hamilton fabricated a fake mast and put in fake headstones at confederation park with the names of the U.S. sailors along with a building at the local university named the hamilton and scourge where they were to be stored and renovated, of course nothing has happened the only fair thing is to get in touch with the U.S. navy and relinquish ownership to them, that is their only hope of surviving....if its not too late
Sir how much money spent for this project?
The drama seems a little cooked...
You can't raise it, it takes an ROV to explore it, just go for it, it's already been recorded for history and this may be the only chance to find out more so grow some and just do it, there's nothing to lose.
fletchers❤
Canadian government is such a joke
How very interesting. 🤔
Even from the shore, a Lake Ontario storm can come out of nowhere; I have seen many of them.
Informative and wonderful historical coverage documentary about that natural event 🌪⚡️🌩⚡️🌪0ver great lake in Canada at [1812 AD] which caused sinking of two skuners of US navel fleets at that times
Can you imagine a world run by archaeologist? How weak everybody would be..
Watch some British Time Team episodes and rethink what you posted. This programme is so very US American it hurts.
That’s an extremely ignorant, and quite frankly braindead comment
Anyone asking why so many people drowned in the Great Lakes, hasn't been to the Great Lakes.
Thay archeologist is a massive baby... he makes Ontarians look bad 🤦
won't even waste my time
I quit watch when sir wimpalot went on his weak power trip.
This was not a very good documentary. To much unnecessary drama added in.
That’s a lot of ads
What, that little ROV might collapse the stern of a ship that’s survived countless storms and current since it sank, laughable!!! 😂😂😂
The tether dive voice sounds fake. Sounds like they did a voice over, the guys voice just seems bland like he’s not in the moment of a tangled line.
God blew and scattered the enemy 😑
How about tell the tale from a historical perspective, show the ship and leave out the Hollywood Drama. Bet you this is 10% historical, 90% speculation and drama. 47 min docu-drama in 10 min....
you are destroying the video with the boring background music. I can't hear when you do that. No more timeline for me.
I enjoy the topics covered on this chsnnel, but god the forced drama & suspense is horrible.
That guy was worried about colapsing the wreck! Shows how stupid he is.
Do all American documentary makers go to the same school? Excessive music, jarring shifts, mad drumbeating and most irritating of all a whoosh noise and flash at each change of picture. FLASH! FLASH! FLASH! How could they make it less watchable? TV in the States is a stressful experience. I'm gone.
This documentary is more than a decade and things have changed. Mostly it was designed to keep your attention as the two networks that used it were owned by different corporations and fighting for the same audience. This was also back when both networks actually had real historical information and not reality TV.
This was made by a Norwegian
Probably
Good, don't let the door hit you on the way out
Do all English historians (and documentarians) need to repeatedly preempt every single assertion with the words "sort of"? Is this due to the inability to commit or just sheer lack of language skills?
H oshi ĥhpi
Interesting but, to discribe them as "two of the most fascinating wrecks anywhere" was ridiculous, typical american over promotion!
I’ve seen plenty of BBC docs that milk the subject matter. Don’t just single out America, friend.
METERS, AND feet/YARDS.?..? 3:48 there are still enough of the elders that you should respect that please.? 3 degrees Celcius=40 degrees FARENHEIT...!.! 3:42
Shame another american document.
I absolutely despise American documentaries. They seem deliberately crafted to cause irritation and stress.
@@chrisgrill6302Why watch them then? Why are you even here lol
@@BubbleNova1991 There are some beautiful pictures and a very interesting site shown here. I too despise American action-mentaries. It feels as if the makers themselves thought the topic and science in general was too boring to stand on its own. They disrespect the topic and field in every second sentence and make logical and factual mistakes left right and centre in order to cram some drama into it.
@@BubbleNova1991I don't watch them. I'll give them a chance but as soon as the flashing starts and it becomes clear that only a single digit number of brain cells will be required I go find something else. Almost inevitably European or Australasian.
You could just make a simulation in free 3D software called Blender.
It wouldn't be so spectacular, but maybe some homeless people could have a place to live instead.
Canaduh!
So "the Fletchers" were not really neccessary for this whole project. Just getting in the way and sticking their heads in front of the camera. 😀
They are two of the highest regarded ship wreck experts in the business, that's why they are there.
wow
Boring and over dramatized.....
"Nothing to see here folks! Move along!"
It's American, that was to be expected sadly. Some nice pictures scattered in here but thanks for saving me the headache of trying to find anything more worth sticking around for.
Never understood this drama / action style of "documentary". Feels like they cater towards the brain-dead and largely ignore the science.
@@BassaliciousAmerican? The guy that ruined the expedition was Canadian government