Porsche Tiptronic gearbox: everything you need to know & 2022 review

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    Porsche's Tiptronic gearbox as often derided as being a distant second-choice to a six-speed manual transmission for the 996 and 997-generation 911. But with many thousands of examples available worldwide, is a 911 with Tiptronic transmission really that bad?! I take a Porsche 996 Targa for a real-world road test and reveal every stat you need to know about the 911's automatic gearbox for the early Millennium era. Are you a fan of the Tiptronic gearbox? Do you think it's underrated?
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Komentáře • 166

  • @michaelbender1226
    @michaelbender1226 Před rokem +20

    The best Porsche Channel on CZcams

    • @9WERKSTV
      @9WERKSTV  Před rokem +1

      I'll buy you a beer for that!

  • @tomshepherd50
    @tomshepherd50 Před rokem +45

    I love my 996.2 C2 tiptronic. It’s not a daily and I drive it hard. I never really got on with the buttons so I replaced the steering wheel with a manual wheel fitted with Mercedes AMG paddles. I now drive it in manual mode 99% of the time using the paddles. It’s not a rapid gear change but if anticipated well, it’s great. Get into traffic and slot it back into D. I can’t grumble

    • @peterphillips2744
      @peterphillips2744 Před rokem +2

      I did exactly the same thing👌 good fun driving in manual mode.

    • @mahmoodalattar2975
      @mahmoodalattar2975 Před rokem

      Can you send me the link or point me in the direction for the steering wheel

    • @peterphillips2744
      @peterphillips2744 Před rokem +1

      @@mahmoodalattar2975 sorry Mahmood I purchased a 3-spoke manual steering wheel and the paddles from Mercedes’ and did the conversion myself. ✌️

    • @ruststar
      @ruststar Před rokem +1

      That’s the beauty of those transmissions.

    • @KrustyKlown
      @KrustyKlown Před rokem +1

      I procrastinated doing that same mod .. then came to appreciate the buttons .. upshift or downshift with either hand, I now like it. Also, I have a 996 Turbo, which doesn't use 1st gear (unless it's really cold).. and all somewhat legal spirited driving is all in 2nd gear and some 3rd .. there isn't much shifting to do with the wide 600ft-lb modded torque band of the turbo motor... so the shift lag isn't much of a downer.

  • @benfuit
    @benfuit Před rokem +10

    To have the chance to use the same car for almost 10 years, I confirm what you say.
    Initially, it allowed me to take control of this legend, without apprehension. Subsequently, this gearbox was able to respond to all situations: highway, city, secondary roads and even a lap on the circuit, once.
    The metre displays 250,000 kilometres and believe me, it’s not about to stop.
    Thank you for publishing this video to rehabilitate Tiptronic.

  • @williamgrover7137
    @williamgrover7137 Před rokem +10

    My theory is that it is the Tiptronic owners (like myself) that put out the rumor that they suck in order to keep resale lower so we can continue to buy them! The Tip in my 997 turbo is great.

    • @SignalCorps1
      @SignalCorps1 Před 3 měsíci +1

      The truth is most commenters have never and will never own a Porsche. Others act like they live to track their cars and very very few people actually do. An even smaller number of folks do occasionally track their cars, but completely lack the skill to outdrive a Trip with a manually car. Then there are the 0.1% that can afford, do track, and can drive and the few guys I know that fit that profile think the Trip is an excellent transmission.

  • @rodcates8226
    @rodcates8226 Před rokem +5

    Good review. I have a C4 and the tip saved my life. Mid overtake of a cyclist when a van came round the corner towards me. I instinctively mashed the throttle and at lightning speed, the car jumped down to 1st and i was well clear of the cyclist before the van even got close to me. Nobody could done the same in a manual car - not even close. Life saver.

  • @kilazz
    @kilazz Před rokem +13

    I got both 996 Turbo tiptronic and 996 4S manual and I prefer tip. Maybe I've gotten older, or maybe I just don't expect the 20yo car to break fractions of a second, but these days I'm simply more comfortable using an automatic. 7:52 is what I also feel, not only in heavy traffic..

  • @simonhbacon
    @simonhbacon Před rokem +4

    I had a 987 Cayman tip '05 for about 7 years. I loved everything about the car apart from the gearbox.
    Downshifting into a corner, you never knew exactly when the shift was going to happen. It probably varied only by a tiny amount, but...
    I replaced it with another 987 manual, and I am a lot happier.

  • @richardsholl5977
    @richardsholl5977 Před rokem +5

    Thanks Lee. I’ve said it many times re tip’: you will NOT get the best from any tiptronic on a quick test drive. It takes several miles & a degree of enthusiasm to get the best from the ‘box. Generally, the 986/996 buttons are less ‘intuitive’ than 987/997 buttons, but we’re all different. The 4-speed tip’ in the 964 works ok, the stubby selector lever is brilliant. The only real ‘problem’ is the big gap between ratios - closer ratios & a 5th ‘speed’ would be nice. Worth also noting that many pundits recommend using ‘first’ from standstill on any 986-997 tip’ that’s warm/hot to avoid labouring the engine and giving you an edge in the war against bore-score. An old leg injury stops me using a clutch, thus between me & her we run a 964 Carrera 2, a 986S & a 997 Carrera S all with tip’ gearboxes & get on with ‘em ok.

  • @johnash826
    @johnash826 Před rokem +3

    At last a proper review of the Tiptronic. Really good to drive. Change down 2 or 3 gears with a slight twitch of the wrist! All this 'internet wisdom'. Oh you don't want a Tiptronic! Oh my god, you don't want x,y or z!
    IMS bearing...a disaster. The RMS...help! Oh those horrible headlights, etc, etc, etc.🤣

  • @iancharlton678
    @iancharlton678 Před 3 měsíci +1

    My 996 turbo tiptronic is all the car I wanted……. If I stand on it, I’m glad the man from Mercedes is cog swapping 🥳🇬🇧

  • @rjdavies1982
    @rjdavies1982 Před rokem +4

    My 996 turbo was perfectly matched to the tip box.

  • @micdev42
    @micdev42 Před 2 měsíci +1

    So much useful info. here and delivered clearly and without condescension.

  • @TobyD
    @TobyD Před rokem +3

    Another great video Lee. Good to see a proper review of the tip in current day. Didn’t know the .1 and .2 gearboxes were so different. So it’s good to learn from this. I expect the 3.6 will also be more suited with its extra torque compared with 3.4. As you say it just opens the car to more people with different lifestyles. Something for everyone 👍

  • @nigelvergas6103
    @nigelvergas6103 Před rokem +2

    The tip will feed the power in smoothly without any drama in any gear, giving that understated power train feel to any journey.

  • @nicktaylor5273
    @nicktaylor5273 Před rokem +2

    Yet another great video Lee, I’ll be after a 996 c2 or c4 coupe tiptronic in the new year I hope all being well

  • @paulcester5348
    @paulcester5348 Před rokem +2

    Hi Lee, this has got to be one of the best videos that you have done. I have a 996.1 C2 Tiptronic, which I have owned for over six years and absolutely love it!!! I too, got my Gearbox Oil changed and noticed how much smoother the gearchanges were. You really know your Porches. Keep up the great videos and I hope you never sell your Little Irish. Regards, Paul from Sydney Australia.

  • @davidwills3107
    @davidwills3107 Před rokem +1

    Reckon your video Lee has added value to the Tip Box, great video.

  • @travr1131
    @travr1131 Před rokem +2

    I have a 2009 997 Turbo with the Tiptronic S, the last year of the Mezger engine. I think the Tiptronic works quite well with the turbo in particular. It keeps the turbos spooled all the way up through the shifts, so it is like an almost constant wave of torque. The problem is I RARELY get to do that as the car is fast enough to hit felony level speeds in just a few seconds--you have to be mindful and respectful of the power and of the other drivers on the road. I live in the Metro DC area and the traffic here is often abysmal, so I can just throw it in drive and deal with the traffic comfortably. When I get out of the city, I like to put it in Sport mode and row the gears with the steering wheel rockers. It shifts quite quickly and is quite fun. I did the filter, fluid, gasket and the differential fluid changes just this month (Feb 2023) at 87,000 miles. It has been 100% reliable and the car makes me smile every time I take it out of the garage!

  • @SPURSAndy5791
    @SPURSAndy5791 Před rokem

    ❤ AWESOME 👏🏻 VDO. Thank you 🙏🏻 for making. I’ve a pristine 997 tip, which I like for every reason you shared a positive. For a long time I thought 💭 I’d messed up & should’ve bought the manual. RESPECT from Melbourne AUSTRALIA 🇦🇺

  • @suncheeyan
    @suncheeyan Před rokem

    I daily my 987.1 dealing with heavy traffic all the time and when the road opens up, the Tip still allows me to have my fun. We dont get a lot of manuals coming our way here in Malaysia. Otherwise my left leg would be significantly bigger than my right walking around in circles! Great video, looking forward for next one

  • @pavelzhogin4825
    @pavelzhogin4825 Před rokem

    Big thanks for this nice review of the unloved piece of technology!

  • @tserzz
    @tserzz Před rokem +1

    Great vid 9Werks to open up more the 996 reality ! The Turbo Tiptronics are a Slam down light the burner, Urban Missile all in one, to Cruise machine on the way back back down to Earth !

  • @philnj1962
    @philnj1962 Před rokem +11

    Thanks for this really useful video Lee. I have a 993 C2S with Tip S, and over the years have learned to both heel and toe and blip the throttle. It sounds strange but it works really well. It's all about timing of course, but if you time it right it adds a nice dimension to your driving experience. There are quite a few other little tips and tricks to the tiptronic that you tend to pick up over time. Little things like (in a 993) leave it in gear 3 around town and it will always start off in first. Tap the throttle rapidly (say going up a hill) and it will change down a gear (as opposed to burying it and going down 2 gears).

  • @johnnavarro3188
    @johnnavarro3188 Před rokem +6

    Great video Lee at last someone else gets the tiptronic. Absolutely love my 996.2 c4 tip! So much fun and ever so easy when in traffic especially when stuck in town or on the motorway. From what I've learnt with mine is that it uses fuzzy logic to learn your style and changes down on brakeing and holds gears through corners with the help of 'g' sensors passing pitch and roll data to control module. And lastly hill hold is the best, press brake pedal and just relax, then floor it when the lights change 😉🦆🍳

  • @midasman1768
    @midasman1768 Před rokem +4

    Great vid Lee. Had a Tip on my 997 Turbo, had no issues whatsoever with it and would have one again. Used it every day for 2 years. Preferred it to a manual.

  • @DoubleOSeven007
    @DoubleOSeven007 Před rokem +1

    Excellent video. Just bought a Tippy which “suits my lifestyle”. Great review. 👍🏻

  • @mbrunocondello
    @mbrunocondello Před rokem +2

    My 997 tiptronic is awesome for every day use and has never let me down - the internet hates them - but I swear by them :)

    • @secretsquirrel6718
      @secretsquirrel6718 Před 7 měsíci

      It works but i have to hut the downshift sometumes i hit it 2x and step in it to make a light or some thing like that.

  • @eddherring4972
    @eddherring4972 Před 4 měsíci +1

    911 996 Aero C4 tip perfect, 986 S manual horrible in traffic, 957 Cayenne TTS Tip perfect. Tip is fine for me.

  • @stephen9766
    @stephen9766 Před rokem +3

    997.1 C4S Sports plus/chrono and Tip S box. Thoroughly enjoy the intuitive and super useful auto-box. Would never go back to 3 pedals. Thanks for addressing (what I consider) the misguided general viewpoint of the
    Tiptronic S.

  • @alanwayte432
    @alanwayte432 Před rokem +1

    Excellent unbiased view, I spent a month in 997.1 Turbo Trip when my 997.2 GTS was having New gearbox, I had a 996 Trip before when living in London in 90s, took a trip from London to Glasgow in Turbo, nine miles of delay on Motorway I arrived at hotel relaxed and in comfort with left leg not aching....not doing track days and commuting is perfect for the 997.1 Turbo and on dual carriageway overtaking it’s bloody fast by any standard 😮

  • @paulobrien9868
    @paulobrien9868 Před rokem +1

    I’ve 2 996 one manual and one tip, I drive the tip all the time,,such a nice car to drive!! Manual for track days tiptronic for everything else

  • @jayjonas
    @jayjonas Před rokem +2

    I bought my 996c4s as a GT, not a race car. The tiptronic is a perfect fit. It‘s smooth as butter and i love it. Don‘t understand the hate at all. Only thing missing is a 6th gear for the autobahn. You can make up for the weight penalty by removing the emergency wheel ;)

  • @MarkCS-gx8ep
    @MarkCS-gx8ep Před rokem +2

    Great video Lee , I found my 996 C4S tiptronic gear change really good , and like you said it’s perfect for a commute car and city driving … I’ve sold it now as I’m looking for a C2 ..

  • @mattholloway9730
    @mattholloway9730 Před rokem +2

    Thanks great review as an owner of a immaculate 2005 997.1 Triptronic

    • @9WERKSTV
      @9WERKSTV  Před rokem

      Oh wow! Thank you very much for the kind endorsement, I greatly appreciate the gesture. I hope you've many more fun miles in your 997!

  • @jayringo77
    @jayringo77 Před rokem

    This video is what landed me in the car that was just delivered a few days ago - 997.1 Turbo with the Tiptronic. I plan to daily it as long as the weather holds and having owned manual cars before, didn't want the labor involved with driving around town. PDK being the huge leap forward it is, commanded a $15-20K premium. So to everyone who talked down on Tip, thank you in an odd sense, because it drove the price down on a magnificent 911 that I will thoroughly enjoy for a very long time.

  • @dardog7734
    @dardog7734 Před rokem

    Great review

  • @p____p4tel
    @p____p4tel Před rokem

    Brilliant video on the reality of the practical use of a tip gear box for most usage. I happily cruise around town with my tip, occasionally even get a good spirited drive on a twisty B road before cruising peacefully on a motorway slog or sat in creeping traffic. Really very suitable for most, far more than t'internet would have you believe...

  • @RickPalmer
    @RickPalmer Před rokem +2

    Totally agree with you Lee. Tips are great, just depends on what you use the car for. I had a tip Cayenne as a daily some years ago and found it absolutely fine to use. Just required the occasional override of the computers chosen gear but otherwise using the steering wheel buttons quickly became second nature and I really enjoyed the character of the box. Prefer my manual 996 for spirited driving but I reckon a tip turbo 996 would make great all round option.

  • @martinchai3607
    @martinchai3607 Před rokem +5

    Another very good review from 9WERKS and I have learned some new things! I have a 996.2 C4S and I find the Tip trans is okay - it's not bad, but not great either. What would have made it more fun and actually good is having a manual shift option on the gear selector, paddle shifters instead of thumbshifters (though I do like the option of being able to shift anyway with either thumb), and for me I would prefer the Tip to always start automatically in first gear instead of second gear, especially in manual mode. Unlike my 981 Cayman with PDK, which is usually in manual mode and shifting through 6 gears (1-7), I'm normally in automatic in the C4S because the Tip is just meh and I'm usually only shifting through 3 gears (2-5). I was thinking about doing the MB paddleshifter mod, but I don't think it will make the car more fun to me. I'll probably add a Sprint Booster to make the throttle more responsive and fun!

  • @QFXmusic
    @QFXmusic Před rokem +3

    Great review as an owner of a 997 2s tip i can say once you get used to it you can use it for sports driving no problem :-) I remember going round knock hill in a 996 tip with an instructor drifting on every corner full lock when the 996 1st was launched... Nothing wrong with tips in my view :-)

  • @kevinisaac9139
    @kevinisaac9139 Před 8 měsíci

    I have a 2.7 tip Boxster and I love it suits me a treat

  • @ashedwards1311
    @ashedwards1311 Před rokem

    Love you channel.

  • @guser7137
    @guser7137 Před 2 měsíci

    I do not miss my daily commute in my 996 C4S manual. Included a steep hill about km or so long that you would often be stuck in traffic on. Sydney-siders on the Northern Beaches likely know where I am talking about.

  • @mikekcarey
    @mikekcarey Před rokem +3

    I chose a Tip because I knew how great they were the other crime against internet wisdom is my car has a Sun Roof. There I said it,,,, I have a sun roof and it’s Great

  • @ducatidad8231
    @ducatidad8231 Před rokem +2

    Have a gen 1 and always amazed how well it works being 25 years old. Smoother than my new XC40! Interesting point about oil change: one for me to get done before the driving season starts next year ✌️ good vid

    • @9WERKSTV
      @9WERKSTV  Před rokem +1

      Very pleased you liked the video and learned something too, that's exactly why I do this!

  • @eBlack996
    @eBlack996 Před rokem +1

    I’m looking into getting my very own 911 and first porsche. The 996 of course as well. I wanted the manual gearbox for my entire search the last couple months but ultimately decided I should go with the Tip. Due to reasons. I live in San Francisco. On top of several hills. And this is my first car I’ve had in 10 years of living here. So I want to just relax and enjoy the ride for my daily drives.

  • @virgilrytaar9083
    @virgilrytaar9083 Před rokem +1

    There must be something wrong with mine, it's so quick changing and responsive. 1st production run from 1998, it really feels incredibly sporty. Yes, I've owned 911's for 30 + years. If my air-cooled 911's had driven as well as my free 996 tip, I'd still own them

  • @smiler921
    @smiler921 Před rokem +2

    Good video, though I’ve got a Gen 2 manual cayman I’d always just discounted any 996 tiptronics when I often search for nice 996 C4S or Turbo to drool over. Only reservation is that I got bored with my DSG Golf GTi as it was just too ‘easy’

  • @bazsmiles9901
    @bazsmiles9901 Před rokem +1

    Thanks Lee, another balanced and informed video. have driven both manual and tip and would surmise that they are just different; both have their merits and some things to choose one over the other on. Drove the 996 C4S Tip for 11 years. Fantastic. Think one of the key factors of why people dislike the tiptronic, or at least 'slate' it, is that they simply have not put enough hours and miles down on using a tip - or haven't driven it at all. It takes a bit of time to get used to. My right rocker gets all the action, plus my hands are firmly on the steering wheel on track days. Now, move fwd to a 996 turbo tip (only 26k on the clock...!) - am 'very' glad to be able to keep both hands on the steering wheel - and get huge amounts out of this supercar.
    ps never knew that about cold 1st, nor the two reverse gears; the former would explain the slap I sometimes got on a cold start and would emphasise to anyone with a 996 to get the transmission fluid changed in the box if it hasn't been done. So much smoother afterwards on these 25 year old icons. Thanks Lee - great video and straightforward.

    • @9WERKSTV
      @9WERKSTV  Před rokem

      Thanks indeed for the kind feedback, I agree both gearboxes are different and just take some getting used to!

  • @palatinaworks7251
    @palatinaworks7251 Před rokem +1

    Hi! Thanks for your videos. Is there a chance to get a video how to change the oil in a 996 tiptronic gearbow? Wanted to change it last year and couldn't figure out how to do it with the available media at that time. Mine urgently need an oil change. Cheers

  • @jonathanwong8206
    @jonathanwong8206 Před rokem +1

    The boxes can be upgraded eg solenoids and tcu chip for faster shifts
    The internals slip at 500bhp 500lb ft tq on my turbo so I upgraded the clutches steels to handle 700bhp - I’m doing 130kmh in second gear with tune and exhaust intercoolers
    You can also get sportier maps by pump accelerator to floor twice
    Finally their is adaptation reset procedure that cleans up the computer resets to factory especially useful if just town driving to then relearn more aggressive driving patterns

  • @TheThrottleCable
    @TheThrottleCable Před 11 měsíci

    A great educational video! I'm somewhat surpised by the two reverse gear design :)

    • @9WERKSTV
      @9WERKSTV  Před 11 měsíci +1

      Cheers dude! Hope you're well good sir.

  • @joeezra5460
    @joeezra5460 Před rokem

    Got a 03 e500 it really is a great box the torque converter loads up 10/10

  • @inaj27
    @inaj27 Před rokem

    My tiptronic keeps up with me and it’s fun 🤩, I still love manual transmission

  • @jonwarshawsky5288
    @jonwarshawsky5288 Před rokem +1

    I have a ‘93 964 Tiptronic. Because 98 percent of my driving is in town, it’s perfect. For track use, you’d want a PDK - better gearbox. But for 1993 it’s very good. You do need to be more aggressive with the throttle to get into “sport” mapping.

  • @MiegmaishMenas
    @MiegmaishMenas Před rokem +3

    Would be curious to see your impressions on the ZF box

  • @eduardotoledano
    @eduardotoledano Před 6 měsíci

    Hey, lovely video. Thanks for sharing. I own a 2002 Boxster 986 S with Tiptronic and yellow “fried-egg” headlights. Maybe the most hatted Porsche? Haha, it’s my first Porsche and I love it. Totally relate to your experience in this vid. I use to downshift overriding the computer often. What I’d do diff? 1) be a 6 gears instead of 5. Would love to have a shorter 2nd and 3rd gears; and 2) be able to shift using the stick. The buttons are great, but could be both controls. Any how, it’s a great starter Porsche. It can only get better from here! Cheers! 🎉

  • @johne6081
    @johne6081 Před rokem

    I have two VW wagons/estates/variants with Tiptronic transmissions, and I am delighted with both.
    Some owners complain that the 6-speed transmission on the 2016 Golf hunts between 2nd and 3rd gear when driving 25mph/40kph, as one would in a typical residential or business district in the US. Putting the transmission in manual mode solves the problem. For me, the steering wheel paddle shifters took a little getting used to, since the only option on the 2001 Passat was to use the gear lever, but I do like having the choice.

  • @AudreyH48
    @AudreyH48 Před rokem +2

    My future plans are to move from a Cayman S (manual) and a Cayenne diesel to a 911 pdk for daily use, but I've often thought of a triptronic older turbo or 4s, this video does help me consider those options more honestly.

    • @9WERKSTV
      @9WERKSTV  Před rokem

      This is great to hear, and exactly why I did the video. Try it and see if you like it. It might not be for you, but if you've done your due diligence then your next move won't be a wrong one either way.

  • @FlyingTigersKMT
    @FlyingTigersKMT Před 6 měsíci

    I live in LA and the traffic makes the tip a must

  • @FizzyMotors
    @FizzyMotors Před rokem +3

    I had a tiptronic 996.2 C2. it was actually quite nice in manual mode in the mountains, once you get into the flow.
    personally, I would still pick a manual any day of the week though

    • @9WERKSTV
      @9WERKSTV  Před rokem +1

      I think it comes down to your lifestyle: great to hear there's room for a manual in yours!

  • @ironmantooltime
    @ironmantooltime Před rokem

    I have the 5sp ZF in an E39. I'd take it in a Porker over a manual every day because I don't track it 😎 Put it in sport it'll drop a cog (usually 4th) then for a low speed overtake double tab to drop it into 2nd or single for a high speed overtake. Never fails. If you want to use kickdown it may drop to the top of the rev range in a lower gear which I'd normally not do, manual selection for overtakes is a bit more predictable.

  • @997turboabs2
    @997turboabs2 Před rokem +1

    Great vid and glad that you picked up on its strength over a manual gbox.
    I drive a 997 turbo 680bhp tip with a remapped Tcu. Would you be interested in driving/reviewing it against a standard tiptronic or even a pdk?

  • @tm55555
    @tm55555 Před 10 měsíci

    The real reason people rag on about tiptronic/automatic (even PDK) 911 is because if you're in traffic, in the city often, or doing boring driving work why not have a boring / automatic car? A Tesla MYP would be a better choice for that. A 911 is supposed to be an engaging driver's car which the manual option offers more of an experience of. I drove a PDK 997.2 turbo S and not only was the PDK annoying to use due to the weird wheel buttons but also the 4 wheel drive led to understeer.

  • @proabuser
    @proabuser Před rokem +1

    The TIP in a tuned / modified 996turbo is a wonderful pair. I'm not sure I would like it in the lesser powered cars as the joy of driving a car closer to its limit with a manual is a real treat. But when you start adding in road eating power... having the aid of the TCU shifting gears etc. is appreciated. I will add, a higher stall torque converter can really change the dynamic and add some extra excitement to the boosted engines.

    • @James_Sovereign
      @James_Sovereign Před rokem

      Totally agree. If you're chasing HP in a 996 Turbo the old torque converter is the best. For everything else though ... manual or nothing imo.

  • @Stu-ttgart
    @Stu-ttgart Před 3 měsíci

    Everyone is different (thankfully!) but personally I love changing up through the gears and heel and toeing down on my manual, you can’t beat a manual for immersive driving (IMHO)

  • @darrensurrey
    @darrensurrey Před rokem

    When I was shopping for a 996 Turbo, I *only* considered the tiptronic. I spend more than half my driving time in traffic and it's much more relaxing to drive an auto. And when I'm on the open road, it is fine for dropping down a gear.
    If I was doing a lot of trackdays (not been on a track in years) then sure, but for negotiating corners and country roads, it's fine.
    In fact, I'm at a point in my life where I just can't be arsed to manually change a gear. If it's not at the optimum revs, it really doesn't matter. Sure, I don't get as much power, but I still get more of it as it's downshifted automatically.

  • @murage2468
    @murage2468 Před rokem

    I have a 2004 996 C4S Tip and love it.
    But I feel less on that it changes the mode by itself..I switch it to manual mode when I want it go faster on twisty roads.
    I have a 2015 Polo 6C 1.2TSi as well and its S mode makes me feel better excepting the difference of the system.

  • @russelbarns1737
    @russelbarns1737 Před rokem

    hey lee, great video mate, I to have a tiptronic, its solid and when you become skilled at using it its really great to drive....pity it has a reputation that is totally undeserved!!

    • @9WERKSTV
      @9WERKSTV  Před rokem

      Thanks Russell, and I agree!

  • @nigelvergas6103
    @nigelvergas6103 Před rokem

    Thanks

    • @9WERKSTV
      @9WERKSTV  Před rokem

      Oh wow, thank you for your kind support, Nigel! Is there anything you'd like to see on the channel coming up?

  • @secretsquirrel6718
    @secretsquirrel6718 Před 7 měsíci

    I rememwmber my old 1982 811 had a trans temo. Guage but my Bosxter dies not.
    Wish it did.

  • @y.y1678
    @y.y1678 Před rokem +2

    Is this the same as the 993 tiptronic?

  • @robinoconnor1203
    @robinoconnor1203 Před rokem +1

    I really like the Tiptronic in my gen.2 C4S, I believe it is unfairly maligned. A clunky change can be down to worn mountings. No its not as good as a PDK or indeed the 8 speed ZF in one of my cars, which interestingly uses a torque converter.

  • @alfredodino825
    @alfredodino825 Před rokem

    How much does the car actually “learn” your driving style. Or is there a aftermarket part that can be modified to really achieve that?

  • @JoJoJoker
    @JoJoJoker Před 6 měsíci

    Sport-O-Matic is a clutchless manual. It can not change gears by itself. It’s a shame Porsche didn’t offer these with the 964 Carrera 4.

  • @1drwnd.porsche
    @1drwnd.porsche Před rokem +1

    Mine is a 996 with MT. However, very reputable people have referred the 996 tiptronic tranny as “bulletproof “.

  • @tomburns890
    @tomburns890 Před 6 měsíci

    Nice video. I used to have a 996 Turbo stick and now have a 997 Turbo Tiptronic which I love much more for numerous reasons.

  • @mikekcarey
    @mikekcarey Před rokem

    I actively searched for a tip. Friend of mine had a 996 c2 manual and let me drive it, decided on that drive I had to have a 996, but didn’t like how heavy the clutch felt having had a Saab aero tip in the past new how good that gearbox can be. Had are 996.1 c2 for 7 years now love her as much now as the day we bought her manual mode for sported driving auto for cruising/urban what’s not to like

    • @mikekcarey
      @mikekcarey Před rokem

      Just to add been on a few Porsche days out in convoy, with other 996s, never felt we couldn’t keep up, felt gear change to gear change we were aligned with the other manual cars, once the mass is moved of the line and the torque converter has done its work i don’t think there is much difference between manual and Tip agree off the line there is a small difference but that isn’t real world driving.

  • @jacknash5733
    @jacknash5733 Před rokem

    There is a stunning PTS viola with natural tan interior (or similar) C4S Tip on marketplace at the moment. I wouldn't usually consider a Tip but it doesn't seem too bad and in a killer spec would be hard to ignore.

  • @craftingmat5425
    @craftingmat5425 Před rokem +1

    You always get a like from me 🙂
    Even this time, when I strongly disagree.
    Being nowhere near as bad as the common perception tells us is simply not enough. Tiptronic may be mechanically sound, I believe that. But it takes away much (read MUUUUUUCH) to much of the mechanical and precise feel and control of a 996 stick shift. I can live with a rear wiper. Maybe I could even live with a targa (well... no, Targa is also a no-no I would say) or with 4WD... but Tiptronic simply does not work for me in a 996.
    Still good content - Like!

    • @9WERKSTV
      @9WERKSTV  Před rokem +1

      Great to see you getting involved and thanks for sharing your opinion! In regards to Tiptronic, 4WD, rear wipers and Targas, it's a case of different strokes for different folks, and thankfully Porsche makes a car for us all!

  • @MRFUCKOFF202
    @MRFUCKOFF202 Před 7 měsíci

    I'd say this video has confirmed it is exactly what I thought it was - an old slushbox. Nowadays you can have your cake and eat it, but back then it's simply slower and less responsive. And yes, it wouldn't be criticised in a 7-Series, but it's a fair criticism in a 2 door sports car. The big difference between it and modern boxes is it has no clutch system to rev match and it doesn't respond to your input with the toggles (and you don't get paddles). So for me, if you must have an automatic and you must have a 996 911, fine whatever, otherwise cars like M3 DCT or the manual 996 are just better for the purpose of sporty driving.

  • @secretsquirrel6718
    @secretsquirrel6718 Před 7 měsíci

    It seems fine
    However. I dont like the shifter being in the front of the steerung wheel id rather it was on the bacj side or on the gear selecter like on my Toyota.

  • @996Revival
    @996Revival Před rokem

    “Not particularly a high performance gearbox” This is true; manual is more fun and PDK slaps both of them in performance. My 996tt is tiptronic and I love it because of the versatility. I have a TON of fun on track, and I can still drive in in horrid Chicago traffic.

  • @markymark2789
    @markymark2789 Před 7 měsíci

    Can anyone here tell me the difference between Tiptronic and Tiptronic S? Are they the same? I ask because I’m stuck out here in Japan and just picked up a 996 turbo last week. Listed as a Tiptronic. I’ve seen some here listed as Tiptronic and some as Tiptronic S. I can’t find the difference.

    • @strandkreuzer4309
      @strandkreuzer4309 Před 3 měsíci

      There may be other differences, but the Tiptronic S has buttons on the steering wheel which allow you to change gears. Enjoy the ride. They are all great cars.

  • @HGUlmke
    @HGUlmke Před rokem

    Draining a gearbox is not enough, it needs to be rinsed. There is special equipment like from Mahle which adds fresh oil and pushes the old fluid out. The mashine has two glas pipes where you can see the new fluid going in and the dirty oil going out. All is done, when both tubes show the same colour. Needless to say, that filter and gasket needs changing, too.

  • @chrismicallef1276
    @chrismicallef1276 Před rokem +1

    I enjoy my Tiptronic. It works great in an urban setting....I can't imagine needing to shift any quicker on public roads. In the mountains I like ALWAYS having both hands on the wheel !! (2006 C2S 4.0 ltr.) ...searching for a 1989 911 w/ G50.

  • @ksteak27
    @ksteak27 Před rokem

    Sold my '00 911 tip with 178k miles and the next owner has had it for years now.

  • @robertnovak3883
    @robertnovak3883 Před 5 měsíci

    It’s about driver

  • @RzogL
    @RzogL Před rokem

    Surely the vast majority of 928s and cabrio 944s were automatic. If they didn't have Sportomatic or Tiptronic (cabrio 968s would have had a Tip), what sort of gearbox did they have?

  • @stijnvandamme76
    @stijnvandamme76 Před rokem

    Everything you need to know :
    1 It is not a manual, If you are into real fun driving, but aren't hard core into track days: you want a manual
    2 unless you have a wonkey knee or missing a leg, or sit in half an hour Tjam per day: get a manual
    3 If you do have a wonkey knee or missing a leg or sit in half an hour Tjam per day or are very hard core into track days : get a later model with PDK instead of a TipTronic.

  • @steverush8362
    @steverush8362 Před rokem +1

    Have multi drivers...even visiting friends...of varying ages. Seasonal changes include ski rack. Of note thru it all have not even had the possibility of an over rev. Economics...a few hundred for occasional fluid changes vs my 3rd pedal friends w the extra zero on the bill due plate,disc,fly,seal, oh and Trans drop. It really makes it a safer cheaper daily driver

  • @nunosilva6787
    @nunosilva6787 Před měsícem +1

    The tiptronic gearbox was over specked for most 996 and 997 has the same gear box also covered the turbo version. The torque converter is huge and the amount of atf oil that it takes is a lot. To top it off the oil filter is rather big as well. When I serviced my car they let me watch it and also they warmed up the oil to a certain temperature and then they topped it up to the right level. Another thing that I did at the same time was to change the drive gear oil as well as it is separated from the gear box. When I drove it off from the dealer I could tell immediately the gear change was smoother in particular in manual with sport mode on. Total cost was around €500 for the service because it really takes a lot of transmission fluid but now I'm fine for another 70k miles at least.

  • @996mozes
    @996mozes Před rokem

    I use my 996 tiptronic as a trackcar and once you understand the gearbox it is very capable!

  • @LOTPOR0402
    @LOTPOR0402 Před 8 měsíci

    The world of the internet would have you believe there are faries on the moon .Anyway funny how this type of gearchange is frowned upon in a road sportscar ,but F1 been using for years

    • @MRFUCKOFF202
      @MRFUCKOFF202 Před 7 měsíci

      F1 cars have never used an unresponsive torque converter. In fact to my knowledge no race cars have.

  • @rivaterrier
    @rivaterrier Před rokem +2

    Amicable? Never heard that word for a gearbox.

  • @dandan864
    @dandan864 Před rokem

    Reliable wise then gearbox is pretty good just slow

  • @richardsholl5977
    @richardsholl5977 Před rokem

    Oh, to add, all our cars get used reasonably hard!

  • @alanwayte432
    @alanwayte432 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Backwards L or maybe J lol 😊

  • @bigmacdaddy1234
    @bigmacdaddy1234 Před rokem

    I had a Porsche with Tiptronic and it felt like any other automatic transmission. Nothing special to write home about.

  • @SepelkiviOlavi
    @SepelkiviOlavi Před rokem

    No, Lee, no, please don't tell us you carried all that mud on your trainers inside the Targa

    • @9WERKSTV
      @9WERKSTV  Před rokem

      Only slightly, as the intro was actually filmed last on this occasion!