The way I killed savant was at total level 1, being a skeleton, joining them, waiting for him to go to bed, then throwing him in the peeler upstairs and grabbing all of hit gear. lol.
I was out headed to the Leviathan place with a group of explorers, had parked them outside of the camp, was just getting supplies, had no clue who those people were. All of a sudden those Frotsam NInjas, for no reason went out and started attacking my group, and in response, my entire group rushed into her camped and slaughtered everyone -- It was completely accidental and happened before I could stop it. So... That's how I randomly became allies with Holy Nation... By the way, didn't actually even know Moll existed, or who she was only that she was my prisoner, lol.
Something that may have been a little more interesting is taking into consideration how difficult it would be to take out bosses faction down with them in the ranking. *Cough cough* holy nation
I don't get it, I didn't have a problem with the shek kingdom one bit. And he ranked them s tier. I had problem with dealing with the inquisitors of the Holy nation more
@@is2unknown893 maybe it's the gear you used, imo the 100 guardians and invincibles and Esata are all nearly unbeatable. My solo character that just solo'd holy lord phoenix couldn't get through the gate guards even
I once met Catlon accidentally by just randomly exploring the southwest side of the map now i had 18 people working with me most of which are Shek's and when the fight started we got swarmed by thralls and Catlon instantly crippled 4 people at once by punching their limbs off.
I remember capturing Lord Fenix and having him to fight my player to train, when he knocks me i just open the door to the outside and have him get blastered by 20 appons
I killed savant because after killing longen i talked to the antislavers and they followed me so i thiught "lets take them to cat lon for the memes" but the skin bandits atacked us and they were veing atacked by the triangle bandits(they are from a mod) and i had to save the anti slavers from being peeled while fighting skin bandits and killed savant in the confuaion
Awsome vid. Keep up the good work. Are we gonna get the animal bosses next? I'm curious where you'd put that danm raptor that beat my professional army that bested the phoenix.
@@palehunter6711 In my latest playthrough, there were three of them. I had Tamed King Gorillo and Great White Gorillo and they still needed a rest before they could take all three.
To me, the Southern Hive Queen Guards and King himself were the hardest for me. They completely swarm and pummel you to death by sheer endless numbers.
Interesting how I literally just yesterday walked to cat-lon with beep and 10 robots (6 created, 3 uniques and 1 fresh reqruit who's below 10 on all stats) took him and all his thralls out, but for the life of me I cannot take on Holy lord phoenix and his goons... I get dropped, my stuff taken and jailed.. I'd put him into S tier to be honest.. came here because I'm afraid of southern hive but want that queens polearm for my new guy. We all in meitou and rusted samurai gear for style points.
I would put the cannibal grand wizard below King Gurgler, Cannibal Wizard is easy especially because Tech Hunters and cannibal hunters visit his domain frequently, no one comes to help you with the gurglers but otherwise I think you're spot on
Savant is rather a unique bounty in he talks a lot if you go as a skeleton. He’s madder then a sack full of kittens but he fascinates me none the less.
It's the kittens. Can never resist them. And... now you put this idea in my head. Catlon is a bunch of kittens piloting a (for them) giant killer mech.
Managed to stealth KO tinfist and Cat Lon on my latest play through with no detection from the thralls or anti slavers respectively, was intense.. had the recruit anyone mod so they both work for me now 😂
You state often that "They have a Meitou blade, so they're not very special" when Meitou blades are the rarest weapon in the game, and therefore the definition of special. I think you mean to say that while their weapons are special, their stats and other gear are not as good. Which is strange, because in my playthroughs these bosses usually have masterwork/specialist grade gear and I'm not even using item-changing mods. Is this a translation error?
I think that's just personal bias about weapons and armor. I feel like it's not that it was a Meitou that was the issue, it's because it was a Jitte. Or x undesirable weapon, whatever that may be. They're all desirable to me, because I like money.
I tried an experiment with the fishman they’re limbs are stupid tough I threw a regular and alpha in the peeler machine and the first one died but the alpha it took -300 to take of his arm some went to -400 as for the king his was stupid hard too they don’t bleed out that easily too
Phoenix should be A tier. He has 14 powerful guards, his personal bodyguard is the strongest human character in the game, he has very good stats himself-85 in everything makes him top 5 human NPCs, plus good armour and one of the best meitou weapons. Iirc the only NPCs with better stats are his own bodyguard, eyegore, cat-lon, general jang, armour king, tinfist, bugmaster (no gear), esata (but with much worse armour and a weapon she cant use properly), and king. Moll is a little worse, and so are the inquisitors and other robot generals.
I went to one of the ruins or something to the set of black desert city.. there were a bunch of headless robots and a leader worth 30k bounty.. he had a meitu sword.. then I carried him south to the smugglers run or something like that. I got in a bed and dropped the guy. He pulled out a meitu pole arm Then I took that too.
The bug master is hard if he manages to make contact with you because when I sent in my really best to beat his ass they couldn’t land a hit for majority of the time because of how quick he was but if he hit you holy shit some of the elite lost arms from a single hit 😂
You definitely made it seem overly simple to get into bugmaster's compound in general. I bought up all the mercenaries I could find in the southern part of the map and brought them to his crater. By the time i even reached him half of the mercenaries were being eaten alive by the sea of spiders constantly roving the land. Then, because my stealth wasn't too ridiculously high (56) his whole tower of spiders was alerted to me and I had to get out of there without even firing a single shot. I took my squad bailing out of the crater for dear life, cowering behind some rocks waiting for an opening in the hordes of spiders that are still just on patrol. The thought occurred to me that our whole raid was so insignificant to them that a good number of spiders didn't even notice. By the time I got out if spider hell, half of my squad was already dead or actively being eaten alive along with the fuggin army of 30+ mercenaries. I haven't played in a few days, mostly because Beep died in that raid and I haven't overcome the emotional damage that did to me.
The trick to getting into his lair is not an army, once you bring a squad you'll never untangle yourself from the ever present spiders and eventually the attrition will get you. You need to get in quick and quiet, solo or with a small strike team and take him down.
@@KokoplaysMB I have an update! I gathered myself, Kang, and Oron, and we snuck into the crater to get the Bugmaster. Mistakes were made. We... Did not succeed. I will say though, Kang was an absolute monster and the last man standing out of our whole group. Absolute UNIT, Oron and I were both KO'd before he even took damage (probably my fault honestly) but the sheer number of skin spiders got him eventually. I tried to get him out before he died but his legs were chewed up, so it became a valiant last stand instead. Great game!
You can defeat his army of spiders. Just create a decent squad with good protection, a proficiency in either Sabres (use desert sabres since they have a huge bonus against spiders) or polearms (great reach and bonus against animals), and bring some garrus since theu can attack many enemies at once. Then once you've taken down the spiders make sure to bring your garrus to fight Bugmaster since he can't really block them.
Where would you rank Mukai the Mountain? Major or Minor? I feel like since he only spawns if Esata is captured he might not be a Major boss at that point because the Shek are weakened by then, but he's still fairly bad ass.
yes sadly Mad Cat Lon is no match for Tinfist, I tried unleashing him on Tinfist but the martial arts did not give him a chance. He was able to chop off Bugmaster's leg though.
I beat cavant so easily, just kidnapped him and put him in his own meat grinder and snatched his nodachi and blueprint and ran tf away w my 70 athl and wooden sandals
Stealth is to op in this game thats why i promised to not use stealth either for scouting and locpicking chest. But no assassination and kidnapping, for me is boring. I want to see an epic battles with my army clashing against theirs, if some limbs are lost is no big deal just get new ones.
If we're counting the tower of spiders, out of everything in this game, even royal valley king, that was the only thing that managed to kill one of my guys, if you are unprepared in the slightest you will die 100%.
@@metaldoji I thought there would have been like maybe 10 spiders at most, I did not expect like 50 blood spiders. The only reason I lived is because my team was insane, full masterwork gear with edgewalker and meitou weapons and like at least 70 dex on everyone and I barely survived.
I just did this yesterday for the first time and i was shocked how easy it was. I put down the bugmaster so fast that I'd thought i missed him. What gave you trouble?
@@jasonreimer5736 This is the tower of spiders, not the bug master, and fighting 300 spiders indoors is fucking impossible. Outdoors you can spread them out and take them on separately, you can just kite them, you can do all kinds of stuff, but when you're indoors you just get stunlocked and fucked. I didn't have an army either, I had only about 5 guys. They're also blood spiders so when you get knocked out they try to eat you, and if you can't get reinforcements down there fast enough there's nothing you can do.
tbf i always forget that mf even exists, the main reason for that i think is because like, who tf is gonna fight him? there is literally not a single reason to interact or face him in the entire game
Couple a days ago we fought him on the stream playthrough. UWE mod gives him masterwork crab armor and many many many more spooders. He was definitely S tier there.
UWE adds that to him. You can still kite him out of the tower to the point his spiders will stop following and then slowly bring him down with ranged attacks while tanking him with heavy armoured units.
Is this video ranking bosses coolness or their difficulty? Also if its by difficulty, then does it not include the cheap tricks to win, like how when you fight some of the bosses, you can steal their sword while they sleep then as they wake up you defeat them?
I have to say, if you take combat difficulty (without using assassination) as the major factor in this tier list, I bet you would switch things around. There is no way tin-fist is above cat-lon when his biggest weakness is being swarmed. Cat-lon's army is way stronger.
You can run into Cat-lons place and run out with everyone chasing you. His guards will give up real fast while he's gonna continue to chase and you can 1v1 him then, which is easier than 1v1 vs Tinfist
@@KokoplaysMB Yeah I know, still gotta go around to collect recipes and raid lost libraries and stuff. I think the grind to get meitou weapons was less tedious to me loll
shame, if only the Protector of the Flame had armour better than shoddy and a sword better than rusty blade he'd be one of the strongest bosses in the game.
My way of defining a hard one, it's looking at: Assassination difficulty Theft difficulty And if it's approachable It's easy to get to savant, it's easy steal his armor and it easy knock him while sleeper and then take him out of the place
i remember my first meeting with eyegore as yesterday. ah another assault at my base? didnt even care. untill i noticed some of my guys with 75+ stats went unconcious. what the hell is going on... wait, why is this huge looking hive whooping my guys left or right ?! thats how i met eyegore. ever since i fear him. Esata is the only boss i've defeated so far who actually managed to kill one of my 90+ stats guy. one swing and the guy just dropped dead. crazy
The way I killed savant was at total level 1, being a skeleton, joining them, waiting for him to go to bed, then throwing him in the peeler upstairs and grabbing all of hit gear. lol.
Very sneaky
I had tinfist and his crew following me so i just had tinfist like 2 shot him
pretty ironic way to kill him to
Hahahaha, nice
LMAO top 10 anime betrayals
I was out headed to the Leviathan place with a group of explorers, had parked them outside of the camp, was just getting supplies, had no clue who those people were. All of a sudden those Frotsam NInjas, for no reason went out and started attacking my group, and in response, my entire group rushed into her camped and slaughtered everyone -- It was completely accidental and happened before I could stop it. So... That's how I randomly became allies with Holy Nation... By the way, didn't actually even know Moll existed, or who she was only that she was my prisoner, lol.
I would love to see a zone tierlist.
Good idea
@@KokoplaysMB Yes pls .
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Something that may have been a little more interesting is taking into consideration how difficult it would be to take out bosses faction down with them in the ranking. *Cough cough* holy nation
I don't get it, I didn't have a problem with the shek kingdom one bit. And he ranked them s tier. I had problem with dealing with the inquisitors of the Holy nation more
@@is2unknown893 maybe it's the gear you used, imo the 100 guardians and invincibles and Esata are all nearly unbeatable.
My solo character that just solo'd holy lord phoenix couldn't get through the gate guards even
I once met Catlon accidentally by just randomly exploring the southwest side of the map now i had 18 people working with me most of which are Shek's and when the fight started we got swarmed by thralls and Catlon instantly crippled 4 people at once by punching their limbs off.
Intresting Side note: Tinfist and Catlan used to work together building the secound Empire
I remember capturing Lord Fenix and having him to fight my player to train, when he knocks me i just open the door to the outside and have him get blastered by 20 appons
I killed savant because after killing longen i talked to the antislavers and they followed me so i thiught "lets take them to cat lon for the memes" but the skin bandits atacked us and they were veing atacked by the triangle bandits(they are from a mod) and i had to save the anti slavers from being peeled while fighting skin bandits and killed savant in the confuaion
i believe in vanilla its proven that tin fist is the strongest humanoid in game and is the second strongest creature.
There's a reason he's on the top of the list, MA are broken af
what would you say is stronger than Tinfist? King? Leviathans? King Gorillo or Great White Gorillo?
@@TheVampireAzriel prolly king his stats and dmg ratio is insane
@@TheVampireAzriel King. King can just stunlock him to death
@@TheVampireAzriel in my run I captured great white gorillo and made it fight the southern hive, and it was annihilated, so it's not even close
Awsome vid. Keep up the good work.
Are we gonna get the animal bosses next?
I'm curious where you'd put that danm raptor that beat my professional army that bested the phoenix.
Animals maybe, but I think I need to look at factions and armour next.
@@fraskf6765 raptor Island North West has a giant raptor on it and its health is huge. As said it killed my large group.
@@palehunter6711 In my latest playthrough, there were three of them. I had Tamed King Gorillo and Great White Gorillo and they still needed a rest before they could take all three.
I loved how elder looked at the camera when you said his faction wasn't the strongest.
To me, the Southern Hive Queen Guards and King himself were the hardest for me. They completely swarm and pummel you to death by sheer endless numbers.
A frontal assault on the southern hive is the hardest sht in the mid-early lategame
The southern hive sucks to fight
i wish eyegore got more lore about him, i love this guy so much
He's an absolute badass
I think you should have included the skeletons of the deadland and the one in the river as "bosses" of their independent faction
You mean Armor King?
@@TheVampireAzriel yes, I think of him as a "secret" character so I tend to not call him with his name, kinda like the [REDACTED] in starsector
Interesting how I literally just yesterday walked to cat-lon with beep and 10 robots (6 created, 3 uniques and 1 fresh reqruit who's below 10 on all stats) took him and all his thralls out, but for the life of me I cannot take on Holy lord phoenix and his goons... I get dropped, my stuff taken and jailed.. I'd put him into S tier to be honest.. came here because I'm afraid of southern hive but want that queens polearm for my new guy. We all in meitou and rusted samurai gear for style points.
Maybe is the turrets, they are broken, but the thralls are quite weak so maybe you just pile on poor cat lon
I would put the cannibal grand wizard below King Gurgler, Cannibal Wizard is easy especially because Tech Hunters and cannibal hunters visit his domain frequently, no one comes to help you with the gurglers but otherwise I think you're spot on
Yeah that's fair
Savant is rather a unique bounty in he talks a lot if you go as a skeleton. He’s madder then a sack full of kittens but he fascinates me none the less.
It's the kittens. Can never resist them.
And... now you put this idea in my head.
Catlon is a bunch of kittens piloting a (for them) giant killer mech.
Love all your kenshi videos man
Thanks!
Managed to stealth KO tinfist and Cat Lon on my latest play through with no detection from the thralls or anti slavers respectively, was intense.. had the recruit anyone mod so they both work for me now 😂
Nice! Someone had to unite those two again!
We all know the goat mafia is the best faction and has the best boss
All hail the goat mafia!
Glory to the Goats!
Goats are just next level, above S
@@KokoplaysMB beep lvl
You state often that "They have a Meitou blade, so they're not very special" when Meitou blades are the rarest weapon in the game, and therefore the definition of special. I think you mean to say that while their weapons are special, their stats and other gear are not as good. Which is strange, because in my playthroughs these bosses usually have masterwork/specialist grade gear and I'm not even using item-changing mods. Is this a translation error?
I think that's just personal bias about weapons and armor. I feel like it's not that it was a Meitou that was the issue, it's because it was a Jitte. Or x undesirable weapon, whatever that may be. They're all desirable to me, because I like money.
I tried an experiment with the fishman they’re limbs are stupid tough I threw a regular and alpha in the peeler machine and the first one died but the alpha it took -300 to take of his arm some went to -400 as for the king his was stupid hard too they don’t bleed out that easily too
Phoenix should be A tier. He has 14 powerful guards, his personal bodyguard is the strongest human character in the game, he has very good stats himself-85 in everything makes him top 5 human NPCs, plus good armour and one of the best meitou weapons. Iirc the only NPCs with better stats are his own bodyguard, eyegore, cat-lon, general jang, armour king, tinfist, bugmaster (no gear), esata (but with much worse armour and a weapon she cant use properly), and king. Moll is a little worse, and so are the inquisitors and other robot generals.
I went to one of the ruins or something to the set of black desert city.. there were a bunch of headless robots and a leader worth 30k bounty.. he had a meitu sword.. then I carried him south to the smugglers run or something like that. I got in a bed and dropped the guy. He pulled out a meitu pole arm
Then I took that too.
It was eye socket or somewhere around there
The bug master is hard if he manages to make contact with you because when I sent in my really best to beat his ass they couldn’t land a hit for majority of the time because of how quick he was but if he hit you holy shit some of the elite lost arms from a single hit 😂
You definitely made it seem overly simple to get into bugmaster's compound in general. I bought up all the mercenaries I could find in the southern part of the map and brought them to his crater. By the time i even reached him half of the mercenaries were being eaten alive by the sea of spiders constantly roving the land. Then, because my stealth wasn't too ridiculously high (56) his whole tower of spiders was alerted to me and I had to get out of there without even firing a single shot. I took my squad bailing out of the crater for dear life, cowering behind some rocks waiting for an opening in the hordes of spiders that are still just on patrol. The thought occurred to me that our whole raid was so insignificant to them that a good number of spiders didn't even notice. By the time I got out if spider hell, half of my squad was already dead or actively being eaten alive along with the fuggin army of 30+ mercenaries. I haven't played in a few days, mostly because Beep died in that raid and I haven't overcome the emotional damage that did to me.
The trick to getting into his lair is not an army, once you bring a squad you'll never untangle yourself from the ever present spiders and eventually the attrition will get you. You need to get in quick and quiet, solo or with a small strike team and take him down.
@@KokoplaysMB hey man wasn't expecting a response but thanks! I'll gather my losses and train the survivors for a sneak attack
*Beep will be avenged*
@@KokoplaysMB I have an update! I gathered myself, Kang, and Oron, and we snuck into the crater to get the Bugmaster. Mistakes were made. We... Did not succeed. I will say though, Kang was an absolute monster and the last man standing out of our whole group. Absolute UNIT, Oron and I were both KO'd before he even took damage (probably my fault honestly) but the sheer number of skin spiders got him eventually. I tried to get him out before he died but his legs were chewed up, so it became a valiant last stand instead.
Great game!
You can defeat his army of spiders. Just create a decent squad with good protection, a proficiency in either Sabres (use desert sabres since they have a huge bonus against spiders) or polearms (great reach and bonus against animals), and bring some garrus since theu can attack many enemies at once. Then once you've taken down the spiders make sure to bring your garrus to fight Bugmaster since he can't really block them.
@@NathanielRush-fj3we man, you are a strategic wizard
I would of also added the bounty offered 😜
Great list mate!
I wanted to, although not every boss has one.
Where would you rank Mukai the Mountain? Major or Minor? I feel like since he only spawns if Esata is captured he might not be a Major boss at that point because the Shek are weakened by then, but he's still fairly bad ass.
I think he'd be a major boss.
yes sadly Mad Cat Lon is no match for Tinfist, I tried unleashing him on Tinfist but the martial arts did not give him a chance. He was able to chop off Bugmaster's leg though.
I beat cavant so easily, just kidnapped him and put him in his own meat grinder and snatched his nodachi and blueprint and ran tf away w my 70 athl and wooden sandals
Great List Koko.... totally right imo
Stealth is to op in this game thats why i promised to not use stealth either for scouting and locpicking chest. But no assassination and kidnapping, for me is boring. I want to see an epic battles with my army clashing against theirs, if some limbs are lost is no big deal just get new ones.
If we're counting the tower of spiders, out of everything in this game, even royal valley king, that was the only thing that managed to kill one of my guys, if you are unprepared in the slightest you will die 100%.
I nearly had a heart attack when I opened the door
@@metaldoji I thought there would have been like maybe 10 spiders at most, I did not expect like 50 blood spiders. The only reason I lived is because my team was insane, full masterwork gear with edgewalker and meitou weapons and like at least 70 dex on everyone and I barely survived.
I just did this yesterday for the first time and i was shocked how easy it was. I put down the bugmaster so fast that I'd thought i missed him. What gave you trouble?
@@jasonreimer5736 This is the tower of spiders, not the bug master, and fighting 300 spiders indoors is fucking impossible. Outdoors you can spread them out and take them on separately, you can just kite them, you can do all kinds of stuff, but when you're indoors you just get stunlocked and fucked. I didn't have an army either, I had only about 5 guys. They're also blood spiders so when you get knocked out they try to eat you, and if you can't get reinforcements down there fast enough there's nothing you can do.
@@thisisutubnottwitterwhyhandles could have sworn i hit that on the way to the bugmaster too... But I'll check
Holy nation basically destroyed the second empire so theres that 😂
Arc?
Agreed. Underrated bro.
tbf i always forget that mf even exists, the main reason for that i think is because like, who tf is gonna fight him? there is literally not a single reason to interact or face him in the entire game
The bugmaser should be considered a leader of the faction, the bug nation, even so, the man's naked
Couple a days ago we fought him on the stream playthrough. UWE mod gives him masterwork crab armor and many many many more spooders. He was definitely S tier there.
@@KokoplaysMB UWE just hits different
Let myself be taken prisoner at ARK. While being a shek martial artist with 70-ish scores.
I call it PRACTICE 😂
The bug master with mato crab armor and his sword is definitely an sss rank i can't remember what mod i used
UWE adds that to him. You can still kite him out of the tower to the point his spiders will stop following and then slowly bring him down with ranged attacks while tanking him with heavy armoured units.
@@KokoplaysMB ya i guess but i have no clue why but his combat skill levels were in the 150' s i did have 5× exp on. But still that's a lot of levels
Is this video ranking bosses coolness or their difficulty? Also if its by difficulty, then does it not include the cheap tricks to win, like how when you fight some of the bosses, you can steal their sword while they sleep then as they wake up you defeat them?
You can cheese the entire game to the point where there's no difficulty, I don't think I should rank that.
Bugmaster..... i don't get it, i literally walked in with 2 guys, squashed a lotta bugs and he was an afterthought.
The only reason you didn’t put savant into S tier is because I beat him and you can’t prove me otherwise.
True dat
spoiler: join the skin bandits and wait for Savant to go to bed and just kidnap him, no one tries to stop you.
I like think tin fist would call his fist of anti slavery
Isn't Tengu already an Emperor?
I have to say, if you take combat difficulty (without using assassination) as the major factor in this tier list, I bet you would switch things around. There is no way tin-fist is above cat-lon when his biggest weakness is being swarmed. Cat-lon's army is way stronger.
You can run into Cat-lons place and run out with everyone chasing you. His guards will give up real fast while he's gonna continue to chase and you can 1v1 him then, which is easier than 1v1 vs Tinfist
@@KokoplaysMB oh, I probably would use that if not want to beat him "fairly", thanks
You forgot a boss... The research table. God damn is this thing long to complete.
You can build more than just one and have multiple people researching at the same time.
@@KokoplaysMB Yeah I know, still gotta go around to collect recipes and raid lost libraries and stuff. I think the grind to get meitou weapons was less tedious to me loll
lord Catlong is too strong
bugmaster should be S just for being so cool
I don't get it, is it on difficult or coolness factors?
Both
shame, if only the Protector of the Flame had armour better than shoddy and a sword better than rusty blade he'd be one of the strongest bosses in the game.
Agreed! Protectors of the Flame are beasts
You can change what gear he has in the game files so he's more of a threat.
Bruh he should rate them as a full characters not just as an npcs xd
My way of defining a hard one, it's looking at:
Assassination difficulty
Theft difficulty
And if it's approachable
It's easy to get to savant, it's easy steal his armor and it easy knock him while sleeper and then take him out of the place
What about the legend cannibal hunter Robun?
He definitely wasn't the easiest target for my cannibal crusade
👍
i remember my first meeting with eyegore as yesterday. ah another assault at my base? didnt even care. untill i noticed some of my guys with 75+ stats went unconcious. what the hell is going on... wait, why is this huge looking hive whooping my guys left or right ?! thats how i met eyegore. ever since i fear him.
Esata is the only boss i've defeated so far who actually managed to kill one of my 90+ stats guy. one swing and the guy just dropped dead. crazy