Do Speakers Make a Difference? - Trying Different Celestion Speakers in a Fender Blues Junior!

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    » 0:00 What We Are Discussing Today!
    » 0:35 About the Fender Blues Junior
    » 2:27 How it's All Set Up!
    » 4:08 Test 1 - Celestion A-Type
    » 9:34 The Other Speakers We'll Be Testing!
    » 11:15 Test 2 - Celestion Creamback
    » 12:02 What is Speaker Sensitivity?
    » 13:45 Back to Testing
    » 16:28 Test 3 - Classic Lead 80
    » 20:00 Test 4 - Vintage 30
    » 24:22 Test 5 - Hempback
    » 27:30 Let's Hear Them All Back to Back!
    » 27:45 Jensen C12N - Tele Clean
    » 28:07 Celestion A-Type - Tele Clean
    » 28:28 Celestion Creamback - Tele Clean
    » 28:48 Celestion Classic Lead 80 - Tele Clean
    » 29:10 Celestion Vintage 30 - Tele Clean
    » 29:30 Celestion Hempback - Tele Clean
    » 29:51 Jensen C12N - Les Paul Clean
    » 30:08 Celestion A-Type - Les Paul Clean
    » 30:25 Celestion Creamback - Les Paul Clean
    » 30:43 Celestion Classic Lead 80 - Les Paul Clean
    » 31:00 Celestion Vintage 30 - Les Paul Clean
    » 31:17 Celestion Hempback - Les Paul Clean
    » 31:33 Jensen C12N - Les Paul Dirty
    » 31:45 Celestion A-Type - Les Paul Dirty
    » 31:58 Celestion Creamback - Les Paul Dirty
    » 32:10 Celestion Classic Lead 80 - Les Paul Dirty
    » 32:23 Celestion Vintage 30 - Les Paul Dirty
    » 32:36 Celestion Hempback - Les Paul Dirty
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  • @adamalexanderray
    @adamalexanderray Před rokem +416

    I’ll save everyone 37 minutes. The answer is yes.

  • @adamscottv
    @adamscottv Před rokem +24

    Surprised how much I like that Jensen. It's got a vibe ... hard to describe in words ... just sounds beautiful. Great video.

  • @gmac9667
    @gmac9667 Před rokem +14

    I feel like I could almost hear the wraps of the strings with the Jensen. It was incredible.

  • @CraigFlowersMusic
    @CraigFlowersMusic Před rokem +21

    Jensen hands down. Sweetest cleans by a mile. Dirty I could go for any of them eckspecially the v30 but still favor the Jensen most for dirty too. The hempback was surprisingly good. Still I can't believe how much more I liked the Jensen than anything else. WAY more.

    • @clearcoat
      @clearcoat Před rokem +3

      I agree, but I bet a Jensen P10R-F would sound even better. I tried a bunch of speakers in a Brownface Princeton, including a C12N and the P10R-F (with a baffle adapter) was the winner for me. Less massive low end and sweeter overall. Sounds great at low volume too.

  • @jhon5235
    @jhon5235 Před rokem +45

    In my opinion, it's what matters the most, specially old speakers

    • @j.r.g3548
      @j.r.g3548 Před rokem +8

      only because they're broken in. Almost every speaker manufacturer accounts for that in new speakers today. The "old speakers are better" myth hasn't been a thing since the 90s.

    • @otaviosmartins1
      @otaviosmartins1 Před rokem

      Agreed

    • @BarefacedAudio
      @BarefacedAudio Před rokem +4

      @@j.r.g3548 break-in is an interesting thing with guitar speakers - I’m thinking we should get three identical drivers, test them briefly to make sure they do sound identical, and then put one through a normal break-in process (so the surround is loosened up like on a speaker that’s a few gigs old) and put another through a much more intense process to simulate an old speaker, and then compare the three. I’m v curious!

    • @JimijaymesProductions
      @JimijaymesProductions Před rokem

      @@j.r.g3548 Better is subjective, but hell they are different. A lot of it is wear, some of it is inconsistency just take the v30 its not even that old and so many of them sound different. All the different cone manufacturers made a huge difference.

  • @noAPlease
    @noAPlease Před rokem +73

    Swapping the vintage 30 for a greenback in my 1x12 closed back cab made all the difference! Zilla cabs does some really great sound comparison videos to help decide!

    • @jvannatt
      @jvannatt Před rokem +4

      I have a greenback and mine as well. Love the sound of the greenback

    • @vincentl.9469
      @vincentl.9469 Před rokem +4

      @@jvannatt the worst thing is when they place tubes too close to a speaker magnet. No good for either. Also with modelling amps, I think it might be best to stick with stock speakers ?

    • @steveeckert8396
      @steveeckert8396 Před rokem +4

      @@vincentl.9469 Did you see the Katana video? The stock speaker sounded the best. Lee liked the Jensen the best in this video.

    • @vincentl.9469
      @vincentl.9469 Před rokem +1

      @@steveeckert8396 I think quite often the differences are very slight

    • @picksalot1
      @picksalot1 Před rokem +3

      Speakers make a big difference, as do the Mics and their location. The Amp (head), Guitar, Wood, Pickups, Pots, Caps, etc. make less difference.
      In a Modeler, swapping Speakers and Mics makes it easy to find the sound that makes the rest of the gear in the signal chain sound good.

  • @bison962
    @bison962 Před rokem +35

    The jensen speaker is just perfect for these applications. Classic lead and v30 are also cool

    • @toledo2983
      @toledo2983 Před rokem +6

      The Jensen i liked most.

    • @TroyNaumu808
      @TroyNaumu808 Před rokem +3

      Jensen has the classic sound. Old school is the best school.

    • @bradc32
      @bradc32 Před rokem +3

      i like the jenson too

    • @toledo2983
      @toledo2983 Před rokem

      @@bradc32 i use jensen and celestion, and some other brands and i have 1 eminence for special reason. All i can say, the celestions are more of the one-trick-pony than the jensen, my most flexible speakers are the fender special design (no eminence, must be some chinese cheapies.)

  • @jaredlowry3547
    @jaredlowry3547 Před rokem +22

    Speakers make more difference than actual amps, IMO. 3 different amps going through the same cab sounds more similar to me than 1 amp going through 3 different cabs.

  • @christophersmart8067
    @christophersmart8067 Před rokem +24

    Awesome comparison guys!! All the Celestion had their own flavor but honestly the Jensen is just a flavor you can love and work with forever. It just sounds right and can be eq’d to work in any mix. Jensen is like the ns-10 in studio flat and translates

    • @ulfdanielsen6009
      @ulfdanielsen6009 Před rokem +3

      NS-10s are anything but flat but have a distinct mid range hump,- like a treble booster for speakers,- that´s why they are good for producing vocals,- but don´t ever do the final mix on them.

    • @ignacioibanez6138
      @ignacioibanez6138 Před rokem

      They also have the NS-10 sterile sound indeed, those speakers sound horrible for listen music, but are meant to be for mix and mastering, but guitar land is another story, I would never put a guitar neither instruments on the yamahas

  • @Alexander-iq5yq
    @Alexander-iq5yq Před rokem +21

    I liked the stock Jensen overall the most, particularly for clean.

    • @noonsound4894
      @noonsound4894 Před rokem +1

      I was also going to comment on how well it did. It's a good sound overall I thought. As you say particularly for that nice Fender clean sound.

    • @dancrowe7860
      @dancrowe7860 Před rokem +1

      Yes! The Jensen sounds like what a small combo should do. I was surprised, though, at how close the Classic Lead 80 got to the clean sound. I think the Celestions had more clarity, but I preferred the "low-fi" of the Jensen better.

    • @jsauce311
      @jsauce311 Před rokem +2

      The cleans are great but they can't handle any overdrive. Had to trade my Princeton out for a special edition with a creamback to stabalize things. Made a huge difference

    • @CrazyCalabrese78
      @CrazyCalabrese78 Před rokem +1

      @@jsauce311 am thinking I may need to try a creamback in my blues junior. Beautiful cleans but not great with overdrive (from the amp or pedals). Which version are you using in your new Princeton?

    • @mikethadeeter
      @mikethadeeter Před 4 měsíci

      It’s almost like fender did some experimentation on what speaker sounded the best.

  • @jonbourn473
    @jonbourn473 Před rokem +26

    I thought the Jenson by itself sounded the best of all. But I think Pete is right, the Celestions are better for band settings because of the midrange. I liked the creamback for cleans and V30 for distortion. I prefer v30s overall. Great vid as usual.

    • @adamwatson6916
      @adamwatson6916 Před 10 měsíci

      V30s paired with Creamback M65s is the best drive tone ever.

    • @jano3289
      @jano3289 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Depends what kind of band it is. Are you playing in a lour rockband yes. Are you playing in a jazztrio I'd get the jensen.

  • @slidecatch
    @slidecatch Před rokem +10

    I liked the Jensen the most. It seemed the most versatile. Then again with my hearing loss I may not be picking up the treble issue. The Vintage 30 would be my favorite among the Celestions. Thanks for the video!

  • @mike42356
    @mike42356 Před rokem +3

    Finally THE comparison between the C12N and the A-Type! Thanks guys!

  • @themomentkiller9167
    @themomentkiller9167 Před rokem +5

    I’ve had a Princeton with a Jensen ck12 in it for two years now. The first year I spent scratching my head thinking it could be better and spending far too much time researching this rabbit hole.
    In the the end, I couldn’t make a decision so I kept it. People have commented on how good it sounds and besides, if I get a new speaker, I have to wait until it’s worn in until I can properly compare the two and by then I can’t remember how the original sounded and sod it. The original is more than good enough!

  • @recordatron
    @recordatron Před rokem +23

    I've discovered recently that speakers are arguably the part of your setup which will make the most significant difference to your sound. More so than pickups, like for like different guitars or even pedals. They're not the sexiest or even visible part of the rig though so I think people tend to overlook them in favour of other products.

  • @AnimalJohn85
    @AnimalJohn85 Před rokem +4

    The creambacks are still my favourite, lovely sounding things and just get better with every vid I see.

  • @rob28781
    @rob28781 Před rokem +1

    I've recently been thinking about swapping the speakers in my Laney 2x12 Cub-Super, so I'm glad this video came up.

  • @caileanhunt8679
    @caileanhunt8679 Před rokem +8

    Great comparison video chaps. I really liked the Jensen it's tough to beat for Fender clean tones.

  • @LNROKR55
    @LNROKR55 Před rokem

    Thanks for a great vid guys, it brought back memories of me and a great bud of mine back in the stone age, well actually it was 1972 and we were listening to the lead player for Sparks playing a black Les Paul Custom through a Marshall Head and slant cab and we both decided at that moment that we were listening to the ultimate in Rock N Roll. Love that creamback sound, always have . Great stuff guys !

  • @FabrizioCalderara76
    @FabrizioCalderara76 Před rokem +1

    I have two V30 and two A-Type in the 4x12 Redseven cab that I primarily use; the A-Type are so good, both in clean and overdrive, they fit very well in the mix and they complete the lacks of the V30's. I love them!

  • @damiankacprzak6211
    @damiankacprzak6211 Před rokem

    Nice 🤘 love the speaker shootout videos. Very informative !!

  • @tmusik7
    @tmusik7 Před rokem

    I watched the video where you swapped out the speaker in the Katana as I was looking to change speakers in one of my practice amps.
    I was leaning towards the Celestion Creamback 12", but after your video I ordered the Boss Katana 100 watt MK 2. I love it! Thank you.
    You've also convinced me to get the Tone City "Sweet Cream". Also a great choice. Thanks again.

  • @matthewhaddad9828
    @matthewhaddad9828 Před 6 měsíci

    this was a great demo guys really liked the way you did this

  • @ArvidNielsen
    @ArvidNielsen Před rokem

    All the variation. I love it!
    Of course, close mic makes the differences so clear, and that’s generally, how we hear guitar sounds.

  • @truthserum9157
    @truthserum9157 Před rokem +5

    Over 45 years I’ve tried everything, American and British speakers in different configuration cabinets, I believe the Celestine Gold are the best sounding speakers I’ve ever heard, crisp chime to creamy crunch, it’s rich and complex it’s among the most expensive they make but worth it.

    • @georgefromgreece4119
      @georgefromgreece4119 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Agreed,the Alnico Cream is even better!

    • @RG-yz8ov
      @RG-yz8ov Před 10 měsíci +3

      Yep +1 for the alnico cream. Best speaker, can do everything, it's blue flavoured but better and more power handling.

    • @georgefromgreece4119
      @georgefromgreece4119 Před 10 měsíci +3

      @@RG-yz8ov exactly

  • @Saul_HUDSON
    @Saul_HUDSON Před rokem +1

    Fantastic job guys !

  • @JacarandaMusic
    @JacarandaMusic Před rokem +2

    Gosh well done for using loops, it really helps the comparison, though I know some folks don’t like the repetitive nature of the thing - which is the point! And well done for the direct back-to-back too.

  • @cortmiller
    @cortmiller Před rokem +6

    I have been putting celestion speakers in my fender amps for years. I have always thought they were a match made in heaven. I’m a big fan of the G12H30 especially in the 55hz variety in them

    • @GCKelloch
      @GCKelloch Před 10 měsíci

      The G12H30-55Hz has a very strong peak right in the most harsh 3-3.5kHz range. The Weber Ceramic 1230-55 with the cloth surround is considerably less harsh, but still has an open high end. You can choose the power and some other options. I think the 100W has an Aluminum voice coil that makes it sound like the 30W. It's a very flat speaker out to 5.5kHz, and rolls off gently from there. The wider voice coil Weber California is also a great Fender amp speaker with tight deep bass, fast mids, and just a little more in the harsh range. Both also come in expensive AlNiCo versions. I'd go with AlNiCo for the California. You might prefer the Ceramic1230-55. It's really nice.

    • @RG-yz8ov
      @RG-yz8ov Před 10 měsíci +1

      Celestion g12h30 55hz mixed with a Celestion alnico blue 2x12 👌

  • @waitin4winter
    @waitin4winter Před rokem +5

    2 decades ago I had the Line 6 red bean. I noticed that the speaker/cab options made more of a difference on the tone than did the amp selections. I.e. amp A and amp B sounded more alike with the same cab selection while the same amp with different speaker/cab sims sounded way different. I asked around about it, but at that time a lot of people weren’t really hip to it. Now we know better.

  • @Tuning_Spork
    @Tuning_Spork Před rokem +5

    The Celestion Vintage 30 stood out to me on all loops.
    I'll take two. ✌😃

  • @ladyjulia4038
    @ladyjulia4038 Před rokem

    I think I like the Cream back the best on both low and low gain. Thanks for the video guys. Keep killing it!

  • @HerrSchnabelewopski
    @HerrSchnabelewopski Před rokem +5

    Such an awesome and informative video. These are always one of my favorites videos from you guys!

  • @andreapasillas5803
    @andreapasillas5803 Před rokem +4

    Very good review and comparison. I'll keep the Jensen in my Tweed Blues Junior

  • @RatzaChewy
    @RatzaChewy Před rokem +7

    Creamback all the way for me. Chiming cleans and clear overdrive. I can see why the V30 is so popular for hard-rock and metal though, there's a bite to the upper-mids when dirty that would cut through really well in a mix or on stage.

  • @paulthebeardedonedowning6820

    the more I listened the more I liked the Jensen it had a character I felt the creamback is a really nice all-rounder feel like it'd go well in many amps cool vid man I love it

  • @elkhanagaev4172
    @elkhanagaev4172 Před rokem

    Always fun to watch you guys, nice video. Would like to see Greenback in comparison, one of my favorite and iconic.

  • @craigtodd8297
    @craigtodd8297 Před rokem

    Its funny how timely this is for me. Its like you read my mind again Mr Anderton.

  • @AdamGotheridge
    @AdamGotheridge Před rokem +2

    Excellent and really well done. imho, the mic and preamp (any) really put a sound contour of their own to the overall sound making the speakers sound more the same than they really are. This is why you thoughts on anything you demo is so valuable, because the recordings, as scientific as you can be, only tell part of the story. Again, very well done.

  • @joeldowdy404
    @joeldowdy404 Před rokem +9

    Celestion Cream back!! Those are in the Fender Tone Master Blond Deluxe and I have really liked that speaker. (Warm with mid/bass tone). Its completely different than the Eminence Tone King 33 in my Tone King which I also love as well for different reasons (brighter and cleaner).

    • @tonepoet
      @tonepoet Před rokem

      This! I did a Fromel mod on a Fender HRD and the Celestion Creamback and it is just incredible. I get warmer, thicker, and rounder vibe out of a noiseless pickup Tele than my buddy does with a PRS and stock Fender amp.

    • @hawedehre
      @hawedehre Před rokem

      In the Tone Master there is probably the Creamback Neo in it. I have both, one Marshall flavoured in my Astoria cab and I put the Neo version into the bass breaker cabinet. I am pleased with both of them.

    • @lazvt8469
      @lazvt8469 Před rokem

      Funny...I got a TK Imperial last week...yesterday I replaced the Em33 speaker with the CreamBack M65 because my son's Hamstead uses it and it sounds amazing. Well, it also warmed and broadened the tone on my TK... I love it!

  • @PhillyGonthekeys
    @PhillyGonthekeys Před rokem

    Great video you guys are the best in the biz

  • @glenproctor1999
    @glenproctor1999 Před rokem +7

    Love these comparisons. Definitely have to try swapping the neo speakers in the Tonemasters.

  • @pmsphoto
    @pmsphoto Před rokem

    Cheers Cap 'n' Pete for this great video ! The direct loop comparison works brilliantly. I'm not a professional guitarist, but chose the Fender Blues Junior tweed with the Jensen C-12N speaker twenty years ago just as a home amp. I have some lovely guitars and they all sound great with the FBJ and C-12N. Yes, I can hear the difference with all the Celestions, but have concluded it's my fingers which need the upgrade and some more dedicated practice. Will put myself on the waiting list for a Strymon 'Cloudburst' which will be good enough to cover up my fretboard fumblings ! 😄

  • @franktriggs
    @franktriggs Před rokem +3

    I wish Peavey sold their speakers separately. Years ago, I had a Peavey Classic 2x12 with 2x 35 watt Scorpion speakers. When I plugged my 100 watt Marshall into the Peavey speakers it transformed the tone for the better, compared to the greenbacks I had. Sweeter top end, tighter bottom end, midrange had lovely vocal quality. Got a really sweet high harmonic bleed through on bends. Gorgeous.

  • @musiccreation1198
    @musiccreation1198 Před rokem

    Perfect timing for me guys !!

  • @myeyesarewaiting
    @myeyesarewaiting Před rokem +4

    really interesting to hear how similar they are when clean and how much the differences come out when pushed.

  • @Tomtamo1
    @Tomtamo1 Před rokem +3

    My two go to speakers for Fender, Marshall or Vox are Greenbacks and/or V-Types. They just work for me, especially when blended.

  • @13thdukeofwybourne
    @13thdukeofwybourne Před rokem +29

    Really useful video chaps. Wow what a difference they all make. Maybe we don’t all need two amps, just one amp out to two cabs with different speakers.👍

    • @santiagoterrazas3279
      @santiagoterrazas3279 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Saludos desde México. Concuerdo totalmente. Tono americano (jensen) britanico (greenback)

  • @DreidMusicalX
    @DreidMusicalX Před rokem

    Yup they really do! I put a V30 Anniversary Edition and e Creamback H in my 2x12 Marshall Cabinet. They're now both broken in and they sound fantastic!

  • @Lilrockerdude13
    @Lilrockerdude13 Před rokem +8

    Fricker has proven this several times over on SMG. However, he was more concerned with just outright metal tones rather than clean and slight overdrive. Nice video and well worth at least a listen for the sound tests

    • @akwamarsunzal
      @akwamarsunzal Před rokem +4

      Fricker is so annoyingly right I think everyone hates him, especially pickup manufacturers ;-)

    • @Online_Lawyer_UK
      @Online_Lawyer_UK Před rokem +6

      Glenn has shown this. But nobody would ever deny it made a difference. However, his view it's ALL that matters is just wrong. Pickups do matter! A lot of things all add to tone but pickups and speakers most because it's the input and output in the system. Fricker just won't hear that pickups do make a difference and has already changed his view from "doesn't matter" to "doesn't matter for metal".
      He says the speaker gives thenoutput so its what matters. Of course. But the pickups send the signal to the speaker from string vibration so they have the same value in the loop and therefore matter.

    • @mofomartianp
      @mofomartianp Před rokem

      @@Online_Lawyer_UK Pickups definitely matter.

    • @Online_Lawyer_UK
      @Online_Lawyer_UK Před rokem +1

      @mofomartian Couldn't agree more! Glenn Fricker however can't entertain the idea that they do.

    • @pilummurialis6490
      @pilummurialis6490 Před rokem

      Guitarists and pickup manufacturers hate him for calling the makers out on their bullshit and also he is trying to save people from pissing away money on stupid shit that is not needed to change tone

  • @niclastname
    @niclastname Před rokem +7

    I had never heard of nor heard the Hempback before, but I think it might be my favorite here. To my ear, it seems to be the most crisp and clear while retaining the low end and not sounding too harsh in the top end.

    • @TexanUSMC8089
      @TexanUSMC8089 Před rokem +4

      It sounded smooth. I'd like to hear one in person.

  • @gearngigs
    @gearngigs Před rokem +8

    Very informative video ... thanks for the comparison guys! The ironic thing is that we are all listening to this speaker comparison on different speakers.😂

    • @BarefacedAudio
      @BarefacedAudio Před rokem

      One thing I will say for iPhone speakers (and many other small phone/tablet/laptop speakers) is that if listened to at lower levels they’re actually remarkably consistent and revealing in the midrange. The lows are hopeless and the highs are hit and miss but where most of your guitar tone is, these silly little speakers are actually pretty honest!

  • @johnclark1000
    @johnclark1000 Před rokem

    Very interesting I enjoyed this show!

  • @jefffree6990
    @jefffree6990 Před rokem +2

    Excellent comparison video - about as good as it gets! As far as these are concerned i also liked the Creamback. For my Blues Junior IV (also tweed) I use an external 1x12 cab with the Celestion Alnico Blue , but as mentioned its not a good fit. But it was worth it in every way. Plus, for studio use its more versatile to have it that way.

  • @eternalcustomchannel
    @eternalcustomchannel Před rokem +1

    Whenever the Jensen comes on I'm like, "yup, that's it"...Surprised how much I like it.

  • @sub-jec-tiv
    @sub-jec-tiv Před rokem +2

    If i were starting a jam band i’d call it The Hempback Wails. 🙄 The Hempback and Creamback both sound gorgeous, maybe i need to get one. 👀

  • @patrickcarroll1754
    @patrickcarroll1754 Před rokem +1

    These also never get old.

  • @davidpask4232
    @davidpask4232 Před rokem +1

    Managed to get a Celestion Blue Back in my Fender Blues Junior Tweed, its tricky but can be done, sounds awesome.

  • @johnscott6072
    @johnscott6072 Před rokem

    The Creamback and Hempback were my favorites. The clarity in those speakers sounded great.

  • @steffenbrix
    @steffenbrix Před rokem +3

    Would love to a selection of Jensens. I think the Jensen wins over all Celestions. Always the same.
    GREAT video concept, guys! 👍👍

    • @lazvt8469
      @lazvt8469 Před rokem

      I just replaced the speaker on my new Tone King Imperial with Cream Back M65 and WOW.......but....the Jensen here was just as nice. hmmmmm. My Blue Jr has the Eminence TREx...nice but it sounds small compared to the TKing with Em33 and especially with CB65's.

  • @comeback1827
    @comeback1827 Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks for this vidéo ! The différenciés was more interesting in the katana vidéo because of his clearish cleans !

  • @rowangates2197
    @rowangates2197 Před rokem +1

    Big fan of this sort of content. Lack of "like for like" comparisons is one of the things which annoys me while looking into options. Admittedly it's a lot easier to do with speakers and amps than it is pickups or guitars but it's great to have for reference.

  • @CrazyCalabrese78
    @CrazyCalabrese78 Před rokem

    Thanks for the impeccably run comparison video guys. Looper and same amp was perfect.
    Feels like those celestion lead type speakers would sit beautifully in a mix/band situation.
    I have recently been running my tweed Jensen version with bass and mids down near 0 so it doesn’t fart out with humbuckers. Sounds good to me but I need to try some OD pedals now. It can sound spikey and harsh once you push it (and not great with drive pedals).

  • @GWRFan281
    @GWRFan281 Před rokem +5

    To my ears, the Creamback and Vintage 30 were the best 'all rounders'. They seemed to offer a balanced sound across all three sound clips. The Jensen was great right across the board. The Hempback was ok but didn't wow me and my least favourite was the Lead 80.

    • @diegobonaparte86
      @diegobonaparte86 Před 6 měsíci

      Totally agree with your call, I thought the Creamback and the V30 sounded more open, less compressed... I could argue the call on the Hempback- I might rate it higher up on the list (probably 4th)- but, other than that, I share your views. I was surprised at some of Pete's & Lee's comments at the end, since I did not hear some of the things they said- most probably owing to CZcams compression? I am listening through my stereo (Arcam 5.1, KEF speakers) so some of their final comments on tonality surprised me a bit, especially regarding the similarities between the Jensen & the V30- so I had to backtrack and listen to again a few times, finding the Jensen sounded a bit more compressed. It could also come down to personal preferences, I guess.

  • @j0w213
    @j0w213 Před rokem +1

    really liked the hempback and the creamback in this comparison. 👍

  • @jeffberg8015
    @jeffberg8015 Před rokem +7

    I've been considering swapping the Seventy80 in my amp for something else and have been watching a lot of speaker comparisons. My takeaways: Most speakers tend to sound pretty similar when played clean, the biggest differences are found with how they handle higher gain. Most differences between speakers can be compensated for by adjusting the equalization, especially with say a multiband EQ pedal or dedicated EQ. The Celestion Classic Lead had the most differences from the other speakers, which makes sense since they are intended for a specialized purpose as opposed to being general purpose all around speakers. I would have liked for the Greenback to have been included in this comparison, since along with the Classic Lead it has the most distinctive frequency response curve, but in a very different direction with a rolled off high end instead of a bumped midrange. Thanks for the video.

    • @BarefacedAudio
      @BarefacedAudio Před rokem

      Dirtier tones definitely show up more differences as a listener, particularly because the envelope of each note exhibits less tonal change so it’s easier to lock onto the effects from changing the speaker. Regarding the frequency response curves, I need to find out if they’re static white/pink noise measurements or swept chirps because the latter won’t show the addition of harmonic distortion whilst the former will - and guitar speakers have a lot of harmonic distortion!

    • @BladeDoomer86
      @BladeDoomer86 Před rokem

      Swapped mine for a Mojotone British Vintage 30 (60w version). Great difference.. Difference is also very noticeable in the room VS youtube videos. It's Mojotone's version of a Greenback basically. It totally opened up my amp.

  • @garyslash7552
    @garyslash7552 Před rokem +3

    Thank you for this informative video. As all the comments show, the choice of a speaker is a very personal decision. I would like to add another factor: One and the same speaker will sound different in a different enclosure - which makes the choice even more difficult.

    • @brisson182
      @brisson182 Před 5 měsíci

      And also style of music to be played or context also has a huge impact. It’s all subjective

  • @homeworldmusic
    @homeworldmusic Před rokem +1

    Holy crap, the first comparison was night and day different (Jensen vs Celestion) while the next, with the Les Paul loop, I couldn't hear much variation. Loved the Classic Lead 80 also. The Hempback sounded hi-fi, cool! Great demo.

  • @christopheredwards2550
    @christopheredwards2550 Před rokem +1

    Love the video boys!! Feel the same as the great Dane! But would love to hear the difference, even ever so slightly but with a prs, and/or through a 800 4×12!

  • @Brianbo4
    @Brianbo4 Před rokem +6

    I LOVE the alnico blue in my Vox. Was a bit harsh until I broke it in. But wow, it sings! Honorable mentions for me (dont have much experience with many others) would for sure be the greenback, and cannibus rex. Creambacks are cool too!

    • @ewetoo
      @ewetoo Před rokem

      Yeah the blues nave to be broken in. I love the greenback in my vox cos it never has to be, but as far as this comparison goes that hemp is up there with the blue, its definitely got the vox sparkle.

    • @truthserum9157
      @truthserum9157 Před rokem

      If you like Vox blues then you’ll love the Celestine golds.

  • @nuketownbass8153
    @nuketownbass8153 Před rokem

    I knew the answer, but I still enjoy watching you guys. 👍

  • @oldmansteve
    @oldmansteve Před rokem +9

    Purchased a Hotrod deluxe IV a few years back loaded with a A-Type. Was really impressed by the speaker. Ran my other amps through it to see if it was just the Hotrod in general but they all sounded better through the A-Type. Non harsh highs, tight low end and loud.

    • @anthonydallarosa8314
      @anthonydallarosa8314 Před rokem +3

      Yeah I got an A type years ago. Great little speaker!

    • @beaumowery5610
      @beaumowery5610 Před rokem +1

      I found that a g12 65 creamback helped my hotrod deluxe especially with distorted tones to use as a pedal platform but it was an early 2000s model so it didnt have the A type which mightve been enough

    • @doogieball2464
      @doogieball2464 Před rokem +2

      I put an A-Type into a Traynor YCV-40 (which from what I've read is a HRD copy) and there was a huge improvement. Highs were tamed down and low end tighter than compared what was stock.

  • @ScrambleBandOfficial
    @ScrambleBandOfficial Před rokem +2

    The Celestion Alnico Gold in my Orange TH30 sounds killer.

  • @nellayema2455
    @nellayema2455 Před rokem +1

    I'm surprised that you're willing to do a speaker comparison after the grueling one you did last year! Glad you did.

  • @johnnyguitar25
    @johnnyguitar25 Před rokem

    This episode definitely speaks to me

  • @ericbeaudry
    @ericbeaudry Před rokem +3

    I like the Jensen in my 65 deluxe reverb. I want my Fender to sound like the original fenders. Love the sound.

  • @garrysimmons111
    @garrysimmons111 Před rokem +2

    I swapped the V30 in my Carvin V3 combo amp to a Cannabis Rex to tame the sizzle/fizz. Transducers (pickups, speakers, mics) have a HUGE effect on tone. They could have had similar results swapping out the mics or even just changing mic position. It's great fun experimenting with this stuff using amp sim software and/or modelers. It was interesting that the gained up tones showed more differences between speakers than the clean sounds.

  • @FenderMarko47
    @FenderMarko47 Před rokem +1

    Yes they do make a huge difference!

  • @kimmolingonheimo
    @kimmolingonheimo Před rokem +1

    I have a favorite jazzy amp Harley Benton Mosfet Lead, and it has a Celestion G12T-100: so tons of headroom and really warm tones! I was REAL surprised it being a cheap amp and all!

  • @SOADGOD
    @SOADGOD Před rokem +4

    Yes as @SpectreSoundStudios
    has taught us. Speakers make the MAIN difference in your tone more than anything else.

    • @zhiracs
      @zhiracs Před rokem

      Especially once you start saturating the signal. Clean, though, the differences are much more subtle and what is contributing to the tone seems to be more evenly spread out up and down the line. To be fair, Glen's channel is metal-centric so cleans aren't a concern for him.

  • @gcvrsa
    @gcvrsa Před rokem +1

    This is the first time I've ever heard a Hempback, and what I'm hearing is very impressive. I'm going to have to look into this one more.

  • @msmetal7694
    @msmetal7694 Před rokem +2

    Liked the Creamback but honestly when it came to gain the Jensen was far beyond what the creamback produced. Had the chance to hear the stock one and an eminence red white and blue back to back in the store and got that beautiful eminence thing in a lighter tweed casing. I think they had the Jensen as well but the eminence was the one for me. But everytime with gain I far liked everything else over the Celestions 😂

    • @jasondorsey7110
      @jasondorsey7110 Před 9 měsíci

      I put a red white and blues in my bj3 and it really opened up the top end...the stock speaker which was eminence-made wasn't horrible, and actually sounded better in a closed-back 1x12 I had it in for a bit, but it was holding the bj back

  • @michelvondenhoff9673
    @michelvondenhoff9673 Před rokem

    Good comments from Pete about the live situation (low mids highs).

  • @alinsandu7190
    @alinsandu7190 Před 2 měsíci

    This was probably meant as a Celestion ad, but all it did is just proove Jensen is better.
    Thanks for the video!

  • @raymondameel321
    @raymondameel321 Před rokem +1

    Love the Jensen !!!

  • @dancrowe7860
    @dancrowe7860 Před rokem +1

    These speaker swaps had a LOT more difference than the Tube Screamer or Klon pedal shootouts.

  • @bjrnjeppesen2805
    @bjrnjeppesen2805 Před rokem +3

    Brilliant format with the loops and the back to back comparison. Excellent!! Now you just have to do it like this with a lot more speakers! 😅

  • @davidneily3532
    @davidneily3532 Před rokem

    I love that last pairing. Although it was the same clean riff, it sounded like a conversation between 2 guitars.

  • @randysmith8770
    @randysmith8770 Před rokem +1

    Put a V30 in a original US made HRD really liked it. Played a special edition HRD with a Creamback and was wowed by the sound. But this shootout has me thinking about the Hempback a lot! Thanks guys

  • @pressonc
    @pressonc Před rokem +6

    Listening on my studio system, I definitely prefer the V30 most followed closely by the Creamback. I personally didn’t think the V30 was very similar to the Jenson, but that could be a result of the recording process.

  • @tgvettes
    @tgvettes Před rokem +3

    The Creamback is definitely my favorite the way it sounds thru my computer. Suggestion would be to do this with a British style amp.

  • @slelliott14
    @slelliott14 Před rokem

    I want more of the hemp back, was by far my favorite! Seemed very smooth clean and awesome with gain and humbuckers (my style)

  • @whiteninja2006
    @whiteninja2006 Před rokem +1

    I concur with what most people have already written. It's probably the most important Factor when it comes to guitar sound, even before Amp and Pickups. The same amp and pickup combo WILL sound different trough different speakers.

  • @pharmerdavid1432
    @pharmerdavid1432 Před rokem +1

    I'm late to this show, but for me the best Celestion speaker is the G12H30Anniversary (longest name too) - in most amps its my jam!

  • @geoffdillon6013
    @geoffdillon6013 Před rokem +1

    I love my vintage 30’s in my 1998 Trace Elliot Supertramp Twin Reverb. Obviously they are 25 years old and they are British made not Chinese (that seems to matter to some people). I just love the mid drive they have while playing live and recording. You just can’t beat them, in my opinion. You do say Celestion V30 are what they are known for, but have only been around since the 80’s. Made for the higher gain scene that was evolving. They have been making speakers a lot longer then that. Great video and reinforced to me that celestion make the best speakers.

  • @destroso
    @destroso Před rokem

    Surprised by the hempback, lovely

  • @LeviBulger
    @LeviBulger Před rokem +4

    The BJR has the most dramatic tonal differences between speakers I've ever heard in an amp I've owned. It's great for modding beyond speakers too.
    Jensens are usually my favorite in these amps especially Alnicos. They make the BJR sound like a blackface. Definitely not the best for high gain, but the clean tones are beautiful.
    For classic rock tones, hemp speakers and celestion greenback style speakers are usually great. For higher gain, high sensitivity ceramics are your best bet, IMO. Although because of the EL84 preamp tubes, none are really going to give you amazing high gain tone. It's just not that kind of amp. That said, I've always found that Rats and Big Muff pedals sound really good in these amps. Especially with high end Ceramic speakers. The V type speakers that Celestion makes sound great in these amps with gobs of gain going into em. The V30 and Lead celestions are ok, but not quite as good as a V type or even a G12t if you use lots of gain.
    Creambacks have a good balance for all types of gain and styles, but don't really excel in any one area other than blues. Tubescreamers and creambacks are a classic blues match made in heaven.

    • @CrazyCalabrese78
      @CrazyCalabrese78 Před rokem +1

      I’ve been trying to dial in the amp for gain/OD pedals and have recently started playing with the bass and mids near 0 and treble around 3. Master on 4 and gain around 4. Seems like that stops the bottom end farting out on the Jensen but I need to try some pedals with that now and if it doesn’t work I’ll look to a new speaker.
      The Hempback seemed like it has nice cleans and good with gain. The others were nice too but seemed very focused where you would sit nicely in a mix but maybe not enjoy it as much on your own.

    • @LeviBulger
      @LeviBulger Před rokem +1

      ​@@CrazyCalabrese78 yeah it can get real tricky dialing stuff in on that amp, especially with a Jensen in it. How much gain are you aiming for?

    • @CrazyCalabrese78
      @CrazyCalabrese78 Před rokem

      @@LeviBulger classic rock/hard rock at most

    • @georgefromgreece4119
      @georgefromgreece4119 Před 11 měsíci

      Totally agree on all that you wrote.

  • @wastl10
    @wastl10 Před rokem +1

    All the celestions sound to me like taking a blanket off the cabinet, very nice 👍

  • @jameswhite1450
    @jameswhite1450 Před rokem +1

    That was a awesome video when you guys rotated speakers in the Katana
    .

  • @polkatronixx
    @polkatronixx Před 11 měsíci

    Nice way for me to find out I like the Jensen speaker more than any of the Celestion ones!

  • @stefanbo3620
    @stefanbo3620 Před rokem +2

    The differences are so staggering. Especially with gain. Speaker type and size is a huge part of the design