Razer Viper Review - Competitive Gaming Mouse with Optical Switches
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- čas přidán 1. 08. 2024
- This mouse is amazing. It only weighs about 70 grams and doesn't even have holes, yet still feels solid. It has a super flexible soft cable, top optical sensor, optical switches, a medium sized ambidextrous very comfortable shell, buttons on both sides that don't get in the way and so much more.
Basically if you were considering the Zowie FK1 or Glorious Model O, you should definitely give this one a look first. You don't even need to have Synapse installed!
By the way, those gaps between the buttons feel fine, I was so unaware of them during use I totally forgot to mention that in the video.
Great mouse, really happy to see Razer give us a competitive FPS mouse like this. Love it. Now to bug them for a smaller version and a larger version.
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Where is the grip table :/
Sorry was trying to go with RJN 3.0 measurements. Just off the top of my head without the mouse in front of me, I would say:
Palm ... under 17.5cm
Claw ... between 19.5 and 21.5cm
Fingertip ... between 19.5 and 21.5cm
If you rest your palm on the back of the mouse in claw grip, this mouse isn't too good because it's only 3.82cm with the hump toward the middle.
Can't believe it was you that ruined a perfect mouse with the side button advice, terrible design advice, takes much longer to hit all Actives as a support in lol and it's so awkward to press, it literally takes you away from mouse movement. Bad move mate.
@@RocketJumpNinja Do you Kovaxxs?
Lorie Dunn you just have horrible aim, side buttons don’t change that, maybe grip, but just change that and you’ll be fine. Don’t blame rjn because your shit aim kid
@@loriedunn5954 I have and idea... Dont use a your side buttons for your actives xD
I don't even play quake, but zy's quake highlights are so satisfying
It makes me wanna play
Poor pinky
Marc Nordengreen yeah when I played I thought I was gonna be good, but damn you really need like many years to get good.
@@sebeanle no it false, just self confidence (also difficult I agree but depend of your mindset not just "play alot" myth)
Should I get this or the steelseries rival 600?
I still cant get over how amazing your reviews are. They're always the first ones out and always give the most insight compared to everyone else. For the past year, I've been watching your videos and you helped me choose my mouse which im super grateful for. Keep up this amazing content
What mouse did you end up choosing?
Zy is the single reason I bought the Logitech G pro Wireless. Best mouse I have owned, just a bit too small, but totally worth it.
@@Joe_EGz G403 Prodigy. Been in love with it for the past year
He is Mouse Jesus.
facts
Faaaak i was literally about to sleep and than i get a notification of this vid, thx zy.
Iceak99 it’s only 6:00 for me... What country you living in?
Same lol
@@maxwellstockton931 Germany
heh saying it is a clone again , we are doing comparison too here. told you zowie was cloning intellimouse shapes
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Was just watching your older Videos, and bam, new Video from Zy!!
I’m actually pretty surprised they managed to get the weight down to about the model o and remain at about the same size without adding any holes to the mouse. Leads me to believe that being smart with the structure of the mouse contributes a lot more than adding holes to it. Thoughts?
Should def be safer for the internals with consideration to dust and moisture
Having holes long term may cause issues with dust, I think the viper is the better model o, also hi intel i like your minecraft/osu streams
what are you doing here i7
Just behind where the mouse buttons begin, the entire bottom part is just a roof basically, and it has small bridges supporting the mouse buttons. The whole mouse is hollow with the back part being sturdy plastic and the buttons/sides being super light weight. It's a beautiful piece of engineering and holes are super lazy in comparison.
The model O sure does look better with the holes and graphic.
imagine this guy getting hired by every mouse company..... Damn perfect mices coming these days
Easily the best mouse reviewer on youtube. Great stuff, as always. Thanks!
Your reviews are the best. I've bought 30 mice thanks to your reviews and now I want this mouse again......... hmmmmmmmmm...... Your reviews are so good that I just tend to buy every single mouse you review :o
What are you doing here bahahha
Damn Razer stepping up their game. This mouse does almost everything right! :)
Keodo true but a smaller shape and honeycomb design would make razer a “relevant” gaming brand again.
Keodo they’re also stepping up the price lol
They aren't. This mouse will be dead in 6 months to a year. Where as Logitech will pretty much run forever.
GrayFox370 and you know this how?
Evili who tf cares about honeycomb. Weight is weight.
Went from loving the FK2 over to the S2 simply because of the 3360 and easy to switch report rate. Now I'm on the Razer Viper after many months of the S2 and I can say again that flatter mice are for me. Razer has done something special here and the viper will be my new main for the foreseeable future. Calling on Zowie now to refresh the FK2 to see which is really the best.
Is it bc you use claw grip? I use claw and the s2 has been amazing for me
Wondering bc I wonder if I should move over to this?
@@itsmerobinyi yeah im a claw gripper.
@@dakotagreen7924 whats your hand size i have 17.5x8cm hands and i claw grip...i really want this and the model o but im afraid that they might be too big for me
ps model o- has availability issues in my area
I really appreciate the comparison picture. Most people have used a deathadder so it really helps comparing the size with that. Thank you!
i love this comparison u are making, really helps me considering what i should buy
Dude u actually do a very complete test to each mouse. I love it
But u always say at the end that they are pretty good. So plz do a video where you compare a bunch of mices and say wich is the best
we need a new updated top 40 mouse list on ur website.
heard he's making a new site which means a whole new look on things
We'll have to wait for it to be updated
link?
Nice Review, glad they made a mouse a little bit smalller than the DA.
Thanks for your fast reviews
Love your work rjn, I always watch your review of a product before buying and I'm improving a lot with the right equipment
Love your reviews. I actually like the feel of holes in mice, but like you said, everyone's different.
ChuckleBerryPi well i like my mouse to live. And when i often get my mouse dirty. Holes are the worst thing i can have
@@tomekl3476 I'ts a bit weird, but my Model O haven't gotten dirty like at all unlike my FK2 or S2. I think the surface material/texture is just better for my hand (I have matte one) and the holes let my hand breath a bit, as I kinda palm and claw it depending what I do with it.
When you claw it you can't feel the holes anyway, as mostly the holes are in the position, where only your palm would touch them. Maybe it will get dusty overtime perhaps, but I doubt it is going to be a problem.
Anyway, this looks like a really solid razer mouse overall! :)
Kankipappa to be honest i use fingertip grip while gaming and claw when chilling out. So i cant feel the holes at all. But i often get my mouse dirty because my hands get sweaty really fast and its quite common for me to spill something. I dont want to loose my great mouse just because water got into it. And i like this razer mouse. Its not like the rest of their products that dont fit me at all and are just focused on looks. This mouse is really something i wanted to have for a long time. No holes, great weight, great shape, great sensor, rubber pads, buttons are also cool and i like the look of it.
@@tomekl3476 All great points. Everyone is different. I'm glad you've found something that should work for you. Personally, I have a strict NO LIQUID rule for my set up. I keep a bottle of water on a side table & an air duster to keep my mouse clean.
Fantastic review! I'll definitely be switching over to a Viper ASAP!
Great review and triple rail at the end there :)
Ngl Razer, after about 10 years
You have my attention
If this mouse doesn't break down into double-clicking like my G Pro Wireless (and it's _many_ replacements, to the point where I feel like it's a subscription) then I'm sold.
It uses optical switches so there isnt any double clicking. Thats why im thinking of buying this over the GPW.
I have this mouse, the shape and sensor are amazing but the optical mouse clicks take some time to get used to because they feel mushy compared to standard switches. Not necessarily a bad thing but there is an adjustment period just a heads up if you're thinking of buying.
Just ordered one. Super stoked. Ty Zy!
good review thankyou i hadnt heard about this mouse yet, will have to consider it
Used this mouse for 6 months and it is AMAZING
How is it holding up?
@@crankiermusic7436 v well
review the m55 of corsair, it looks like they finally did a mouse with a decent shape xd
This looks veeeeeeeeeery sleek. Great review Zy! Might be giving this one a shot once it releases, either that or the Endgame Gear XM1.
I just want to so say thank you for your existence!
I've seen your channel grow almost from the start and what you are doing is just awesome pioneering work. I am happy that you are helping me to find what's best for me. Like nobody else.
To me the shell looks like a hybrid between Steelseries Rival/Sensei and a Logitech G 903.
Never forget that this man helped start the RGB revolution
wtt i hate rjn now?
I'm using this mouse on a daily basis for almost 3 years now. Not a single problem. All that thanks to your video. Thanks man
Waiting your videos just as hyped as watching game of thrones. Thanks for uploading, I love the video!
Bought this mouse yesterday it’s f*cking flawless for Rainbow Six Siege, been clapping headshots with one taps easier and faster “ sensitivity : 28 - 28 - 28 , DPi : 1200
Zy PLEASE review the new Endgame Gear XM1 mouse. PLEASE!
That last rail was nuts!
Just got one of these i was on the g305 wireless this mouse is hands down the best mouse I've ever used even with the cable pretty much feels wireless thanks for the good reviews ninja great channel
Hype is real I waited for this Video :D
Not Pro :D Should I get this or the steelseries rival 600?
@@Turtlemilk I would rather get this Mouse its lighter has a better cable and the sensor is on the same level. Also the shape of the Razer is one of the best because they copied it from Zowie like glorious did.
Not Pro :D thank you, kind sir 💕. I will certainly buy this mouse once I wake up tomorrow morning 🙌🏻
@@Turtlemilk No problem Bro
How is the mouse doing for you now ?
He criticized Daddy Model O! Get him!
Actually though, good review, I’ll definitely check this one out
Moist Manatee haha
Moist Manatee the model o isn’t really as good as people say it is people just like it for its price and quality.
@@elloralondon3326 I've got the viper, a air 58 and a model o. I used all quite a bit but eventually stuck with the o. The flare at the front bugs me quite a lot even tho I'm fingertip. The air 58 is a bit too tall for me
@@elloralondon3326 it's the amd of mice tbh, specifically comparing it to their cpu division. Really good for the money and performance.
@David Whitfield yeah because they dont over price shit like razer and way you has a defective unit so you could have just told them to get you a new one lol
I'm impressed. Uploaded right around the time razer made their's.
I really need to thank u for the Content you provide us.
My first real "Gaming Mice" was the Razer DeathAdder but after some weeks of playing with it, I thought something felt off, so I sold it.
(I was pretty young and inexpierenced in what to look out for so... I wasn't the most intelligent back then)
After that I bought the Zowie ZA12.
I am using it for years now but I feel like that the little something isn't there.
And then I found this Channel about a year ago and watched like everything that could help me find a better mouse.
After some research I decided to give the G305 a try since it not only fitted my hand size (I have a 20cm length and 12cm width hand, so it sounds ridiculous but it really is so) on paper but also got a good, let's say "score" from you.
And so I bought the mice and tested it but after some time, I thought my ZA was still better, so I send it back.
Now after I watched this Video I think, I found a mice that may be worth giving a try again.
I really want to thank you for giving us such great Information about not only mices but also gaming equipment in general.
I really cannot thank you enough for the help u provide for not only me but I think a lot of other people too.
Thank you Zy!
(My native language isn't english, so please tell me if somethings false. Thanks!)
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I have the ultimate, so not sure if this is an issue with the regular viper or not, by my right click felt pretty squeeky/crunchy/mushy out of the box. I gave it a couple days and it didn't improve. So I carefully took the mouse apart and tested the bare switches which both felt great, so narrowed it down to the buttons themselves. I observed a small peg just under the center of each button that passes through a hole in the rest of the body. I assume this acts as a stabilizer that prevents the buttons from moving left and right, but the right side was rubbing on the inside of the hole. I added a drop of some teflon lubricant, and my mouse feels perfect now. I've seen a lot of people complaining about mushy clicks on this mouse, so I hope this helps somebody. Cheers
I also noticed the mushyness of the clicks on my razer viper, I returned my first one and the 2nd one I got feels a bit better. Although if there is room to improve this further I would like to take advantage of it. How the heck did you take the thing apart? There aren't any screws as far as I cant tell. Can you add some lubrication directly underneath each mouse button?
@@freedomfighter8883 the screws are located under the mouse feet. If you use a hair dryer or heat gun to carefully remove them, you can put them back on no problem. Just be careful with the heat gun, it will start melting stuff really fast if you aren't experienced with using them. The post I'm talking about can easily be seen once you take the top of the mouse body off and look at the underside of the plastic buttons themselves. Not the switches, but the buttons that you fingers rest on.
@rocketjumpninja, will you do a review of the Endgame Gear XM1 ?!
Irion81 he said he is, yes
@Jasper Seagar I'm in the same situation. My FK2 has started to fall apart and I was originally going for the glorious model, but they rae never in stock.
Jasper Seagar went from the fk2 to s2. No regrets.
@@Joe_EGz awesome, THX @ROCKETJUMPNINJA!
I switched from g pro wireless to the xm1. This mouse is on another level. I bet in 1 year it’s the most played mouse in the pro cs go area.
i bought Viper yesterday , beacuse of you Mr. RJN. ... Absolutely fantastic mouse! Thanks for help!
As Always, GREAT Review, thank you, RJN
If the lift off distance is 1 DVD, does that mean lexip ceramic feet won’t work on the Viper?
Ceramic feet?
Will you review the g wolves skoll ?
John Titor why so aggressive?
its a zowie ec1a with holes in it.
@@mikkeljrgensen181 Well, actually it is between the EC1- and EC2.
John Titor dude he puts copies on the list. The model o is gonna be on his new website.
John Titor he didn’t say he hates them. He said he prefers them without holes. And that doesn’t mean he isn’t gonna review it
I have a Razer Deathadder elite I snagged from Walmart for twenty bucks since the outer box was torn a little. But I still enjoy your reviews and browsing your website.
Hey Zy, I just picked up this mouse because your sizing guide and it's your top 5 overall. Never thought I'd buy a razer product. So far so good 🤙👍
Hmm, ok, a new mouse, that’s cool, thanks for the review
9:29 Now that it has been over a year, how have the grips held up?
He's not looking at a year old video dude, try a new video
They hold up well
Excited for this mouse, love ambidextrous low profile mice
I really love your channel, only bad thing about it is when I see mice like this I really want to buy it haha. The shape and size seem to be really good for me.
really want to know the background music
It's the music he makes I believe
For anyone wondering, razer store has it listed at around 90€. So quite a bit more expensive than the Model-O but you do get a (probably) more durable and reliable mouse.
I've been waiting for more mice to have optical switches
Your channel is gonna blow up very soon. I'm calling it now. By the end of 2019 you'll have 500k subs
i dont think so.
I don’t think so
Hardware Canucks, Rocket Jump Ninja, and Brandon Taylor uploaded a video on this same mouse at the same time....
That's how NDA's work
Companies often work directly with content creators
Badseed Tech too!
Welcome to marketingtube!
@@isakh8565 It's not an NDA, its an embargo for the more technically true term.
In Germany the mouse costs 90€ and the the Glorious Model O , which is pretty equally good only costs 50€. So I guess im gonna get the Model O
loved the final clip
I have used the g502 for 2 and a half years ever since I got my gaming pc. Recently I have started to look into lighter mouse and this was high on my list of wants. And today it went on sale for only 25€ at a local electronic shop.
An amazing purchase, I love the mouse so much. Coming from something as heavy as the g502 definitely is something to get used to, but besides that I love the viper so much
tbh I really like the holes on my model O as a design feature. I do not feel them at all in a claw grip.
I've had 2 razer Taipans for 6 years before getting my model O and I was very satisfied however, So if I wa in the market for a new mouse I'd consider it.
Off topic: The model O I got is a flawed product, the DPI swith is stuck and does not work. I don't use it so I don't care, but keep in mind that the model O's price comes with some trade offs, such as good QC.
Well, it can happen to any product that it will have flawed copies. My Model O works fine while I had 2 Logitech G Pro Wireless', 3 G903's, 1 G703 with every single one of them having double clicking issue after 1st use. So I don't think it's the company and their QC when I trust them more than fucking Logitech. As you can see I trusted them more then 6 TIMES, never buying shit from them again, it's just brand you pay for.
hand size?
Please review Endgame Gear Xm1, world's fastest gaming mouse.
New subscriber. I’m also seriously considering playing Quake now I was a beast back in the Unreal Tournament days.
so I was measuring my hand along with the video and realized its perfect for my hand, thanks for the suggestion now I gotta check this out
Hi Zy,
If you don't mind me asking, I need some help figuring a mouse for me. My hand is 18cm by 10cm.
Used a razer deathadder (which was to big and the hump was annoying), Nixeus Revel ( Almost perfect but it felt narrow), and at the moment Logitech G305 ( also narrow).
I play csgo 90% of time. And my grip is either palm or a hybrid of claw and finger tip. Any recommendations would be helpful.
Have a good day.
Stop being a lazy fuck. If you want his advice and only his advice just go for his site. There are literally lists for different hand sizes and grip styles for pretty much all hands
@@davidsegalle563 woah
@@davidsegalle563 First sentence was unnecessary sir. I was just asking. I do research to figure out a general Idea. But some input would be helpful but not necessary. Hopefully you understand I was just looking for some advice. Have a good day.
@@JocoChill1235 fair enough. I was having a shit week (still am) but dont call me sir for the love of god. Youre sending a CZcams comment not a formal letter to your boss
@@davidsegalle563 I do it out of habit it's how I am and how I was raised. Regardless, have a good day.
It’s hilarious how people say it costs too much when Logitech is charging 150 and these mice are meant for serious competitive gamers who are willing to spend a lot to have the best peripherals.
Hey there's always $10 mice you can buy from a corner-store. Those people that are bitching are more than welcome to use one of those. It's a gaming mouse, designed specifically for high-level competitive gaming. They are made to have maximum efficiency with movement detection, suited for accuracy, and have extra buttons that many fps games rely on. They act like these are just mass produced out of some Chinese factory a million at a time. The wireless ones, like the Logitech ones, are especially tricky because you have to perfect all of their sensors because otherwise most wireless mice have an input lag on them. Even if it's minimal, milliseconds matter in fps games. People are just mad that they can't buy high-end gaming gear on EBT.
Logitech is not charging 150 that is probably only for wireless versions. I don't know who these people are who say it is expensive but 70-80 is right prices for mice anything above that is expensive since you can buy some of best mice out that for that price. You would have to offer something extremely special in order to justify it.
Marko Lomovic I’m talking about the G Pro Wireless, the most popular gaming mouse for professional esports players
@@spoodyrl It is not most popular
@@MarkoLomovicLomovic For professional players it is. Most of the top esports players in the world use the Logitech G Pro Wireless. Just most people aren't professional, so the $150 price tag is too steep.
Thanks for the review! Watched yours first!
Bought the mouse, been playing for 6 months, I love this mouse, I'm glad I watched the review and bought it, it feels perfect.
@Voix nope no problems to report, best Razer mouse I've purchased.
I just flick on the vid.
The side buttons are my biggest issue. I dont want to do thumb gymnastics just to press a button.
VPX4 I have a Deathadder elite and I often press the side buttons by accident when I'm in a intense firefight. I was playing cs once and an enemy jump in front of me and I pressed mouse 4 in a panic and equipped a flashbang and died. I don't have anything bind to the side buttons because I don't use them. I have enough keys on the keyboard.
If you found a mouse which is great for you except the side button, You can open the mouse and unplug the part with the side buttons from the main board, remove it. And then fill the hole with a custom 3d print :) should be an easy trick :)
@@truegrip2281 Or you can just change the keybinding, lol. Just autohotkey it to number 9 or something
Well thumb buttons are quite dependent on grip style and hand size, of course. I've yet to use the Viper, but I've used most of the older Razer ambidextrous mice (even some from other brands like Mionix), and probably the tiniest and most stealthy side buttons I've seen are the ones in the original Diamonbacks, they were so tiny (it was actually just one button but with rock-like actuation), and they put small bumpy-dots over them so people could actually feel them, and personally got used to clicking them, even with the pinky finger, and even played MMOs with it, like WoW, using the 4 side buttons for active skills, so it's possible to use small side buttons...if your hand is able to, of course.
So honestly, I don't see the Viper buttons being much harder to hit, it's all about muscle memory, to be honest, but of course some hand sizes won't be as comfortable on this type of side buttons as others...only if you have used similar mice in the past you can only start to guess, looking at the video and pictures.
@@nagynorbie Can you disable the side buttons in software?
Linking just for that shot at the end. Damn!
You just put this mouse on my radar, and I just bought the DA elite lol.
so almost all 2019 mice look like zowie FK
1.2 k views in 10 min on a mouse rewiew is pretty nice
especially on a mouse that we've wanted to see from Razer and after hearing rumors that it would be 69g with no holes was pretty dope
One year of use and it feels like new ♥️ This mouse is the best for me . Hand size 20 by 12 . 3 fingers size 6,5
Was looking for something like Glorious O with much better grip, a return policy that works (is on Amazon!) and is light, and it's only 3 grams heavier, also a good med to large. This seems exactly right! THANKS Bro :)
They can probably make it 55 grams with honeycomb design
i think a razer rep on the mousereview subreddit said that with honeycomb and no buttons on the right side, it would probably come in at ~50g.
Hayden Topping thing was I was going to say 50grams but thought they might of been to light so I added an extra 5
But is 50 grams really worth it? At some point you’re just going to have air under your hand lol
you wont notice anything past 70, but okay :))
Brandon Hall well depends if u have a 30 gram mouse I will notice but going around 5 grams else’s isn’t tooooooo noticeable... if they removed the side buttons and honeycomb as the Hayden dude said above... and no rgb for less weight.... it may be in RJN’s top 5 mice and decreased the price to around 50
1:04 "wtf wallhax"
Dude never heard of ears before smh
I don't think that game is really heavy on the sound aspect.
@@idyllsend6481 well, you're wrong, sound is very important in Quake
@@idyllsend6481 it is, footsteps and guns make very distinct sounds in this game for a reason, to give opponents information.
Quake is one of the quintessential shooters not just because it was cool but because of competitive mechanics like shoulder peeking, gathering information through sound, and timing movement.
Rocket jumping is the loudest and most obvious sound you could make besides making footstep noises, which arguably is less common than rocket jumping.
Just ordered mine so pumped
I hope to be in a future where mouses are released with different sizes. If they were in a store and went to check out some mouses, there can be a little guide on the box where you put your 3 middle fingers on to help determined which size would be suited for you.
I just ordered my S2 and now I get this? Okay we getting both.
sshindae 蛇 waste of money much
@@randomboiyo6254 You must not be familiar with r/MouseReview
@@randomboiyo6254 boyo gang 🔥🔥🔥
I just bought both the S2 divina and the XM1
@@Joe_EGz I just bought a finalmouse Cape town🔥🔥
Finally might go for a razed product
I'm not usually a Razer person myself. The only Razer that I've liked was the Abyssus. But this mouse looks really good, it actually hypes me up. Thanks Zy, always great videos!
I had the chance to see and lift it in Malaysia last week when I was there. Very light indeed, almost feels like its just hollow.
Zowie better hop on the lightweight train, tho the S2 is really nice but how about the S2 Lite
Tycoonmaster460 S2 with a honeycomb design on all sides woullllldddd make it probably like 60grams
@CFG What about lens flare 😂
11:00 I would also rather not have holes, but this will hole up my pockets.
We like light weight mouse, but not like weight pocket
I bought a Logitech G Pro Wireless months ago at your recommendation, and yet I STILL watch every new video you put out just for the crisp, clean content you deliver every time.
Give it a couple more weeks, it'll start double-clicking :(
@@Rocksteady72a yeah thats why im getting the viper instead
awesome review, really helpful
But the model o has one of the best buttons on a mouse I have ever used and I’ve used a lot of mouses
Aubry but it only has 20 million click durability when the standard is 50 million
@@attackticaltwitchtv3542 yea but it still feels super good
Idk, I felt that model o has inferior clicks compared to logitech. They are not as quick and don't have such a good feeling either, but this is subjective as some may find logitech clicks too light.
Just look at his aiming and reaction......Age doesn’t matters truely.
my new favorite mouse, got it 2 days ago on sale
razer mice has improved massively, used to own abyssus
been waiting on a lightweight mouse that works for left-handed players! just bought this
yo zy best mouse with closest shape to WMO (maybe one of the hardest question of all time)?!
This or glorious model O?
Milan this
Model O
10:40
That Tracking bro POG !
Waiting for Model O- review! :D
White version of the viper please razer
“Don’t like holes”
Great review as always. Very interesting product. Wish it had a higher bump as i tend to palm a lot.
You can just add grips like the fm ul2
I don't even play games anymore, I just love zy's videos