The Terminus Broke My Spirit
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- This week, we talk about the 1887 Winfield Terminus. It is the primary use for levering. I really want to like this gun, but it is difficult to see a return on investment. Find out how to make it work in this guide or review or whatever these are.
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Funnily enough with the complaints you made about the terminus are true to life, the stickiness of the action is due to the fact the shotgun is chambered in the legendary 10 gauge, and the long cartridge length makes the amount of distance the cartridge moves a challenge to preform mechanically.
Most main operators lack 2 of 3 sufficient qualities to accurately use the shotgun.
1. Be a bodybuilder
2. Be a occasional time traveling hitman with a cybernetic endoskeleton
3. Be a republican governor from California.
These 3 qualities are a challenge to achieve in the time period shown in hunt and in life.
@@baker90338 you should write these lol
Pennyshot is best ammo type because you can say "keep the change" in voip everytime you kill someone.
I see that you had the same idea.
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Uncle Arnie would be proud of your sense of retort
Lmfao I have to do that
The terminus breaks your enemies, though sadly sometimes, you're your own worst enemy.
If they reduced the severity of arm/leg multipliers for buckshot guns within 10ms, 3 slot shotguns like the terminus wouldn't get out performed by the lemat secondary fire slug shotgun at 10ms
Honestly I love this shotgun, but only with levering. The base gun is too slow and inaccurate for its speed, which is slower than a specter which has roughly the same spread of the Romero. But with levering I have leveled trios with it without needing to pause for a reload.
The specter just has too much inconsistency for me going on feel alone terminus is better even without levering imo
Specter has a way better spread. Second best only to the romero. Unless you use the bayonet version. Don't use the bayonet version
@@Keks472 I only use the bayonet personally idk why but it feels more consistent to me
@@beanosbean803 because the increased spread makes hitting pellets easier
@@bigsmoke8816 yeah lol, the normal specter just gives me that "how is that not a kill" feel
I play with a group that absolutely loves the terminus and its refreshing to see someone agree that its not gods gift to hunt.
why don't you want to spend like 6 trait points and 300 dollars to spam 36 pellets into the wall and 2 into your enemy's arm?
@@HomeReel Its only redeeming factor is that it looks awesome
I think it runs pretty good myself. It ain't perfect but I've rarely lost an engagement with it unless I was ambushed at range
On a side note, Penny shot is just a straight upgrade for the Terminus. While it has a drastically shorter damage drop off distance, up close it's almost always a guaranteed one hit kill because the extra damage benefits the spread pattern of the terminus which is at least 3 to 4 pellets on center mass. The extra ammo is a nice touch too.
Assuming you never ever ever wallbang with a shotgun.
Which if thats true you're shotgunning wrong.
@@tonymorris4335 sorry my dude, but the wallbang capability of the terminus is dogshit too. I'd rather have a consistent one hit kill rate than putting 5 shots into a man through a wall and he's still alive.
"straight upgrade" "drastically shorter range"
Never seen a comment so drastically wrong
I once argued on the Hunt reddit that the Terminus needs a buff either in terms of price or range, because everything it goes for is being outclassed by all of the other shotguns in the game.
The result was a massive shitstorm of people either adamantly claiming that the gun is "fine where it is because it benefits from levering" or calling for the gun to be nerfed to the ground instead because "shotguns are not fun".
With levering the Terminus is just a better Crown and King, its not meant to be used without levering
@@spencersmith4373 Reddit is a place for everyone to make themselves feel good by shitting on new ideas not a place rational thinking
@@spencersmith4373 The Crown has better damage, range, it doesn't require bulletgrubber or levering, and shooting doesn't quite lock you into place like the terminus does when shooting with levering. The Term is probably more cost effective overall, though.
@@cassidy8307 they both do 185 damage and have a 12 meter effective range, I think the terminus is better because I think the spread is more consistent than the C&K
Also you don't need bullet grubber on a shotgun, its not a Nagant, if you are consistently running low on shotgun ammo you need to adjust your play style you should be able to wipe a server by yourself without needing additional ammo
@@spencersmith4373 Term has an 11m range according to store stats while the Crown is 12m. In my own testing and from a lot of anecdotes, the Term has noticeably worse spread than the crown too.
Ah I’ve been waiting for this review for a while. You make very fair points about it’s inconvenient nature, getting traits, dealing with the expensive cost of the gun and ammo. Shotguns imo are the most controversial guns within the community (other than the Dolches) because they are all about personal preference.
Many people always ADS with shottys because it feels natural to them and in fairness can help with aiming. But at the same time, many people I know, and other content creators like Rachatz, Hornet, Fronkie, Vombuz etc, never ads with shotguns because at the end of the day, if your aim is good enough, you really don’t need to ads because the spread pattern doesn’t change. Not utilizing ads can actually be a benefit when using a shotgun because it provides less visual recoil, which makes it easier to line up a second shot back to back.
Basically what I’m saying is a lot of people (who I know) don’t like using the terminus because of not being used to hipfiring with shottys. But for people like me who am used to it because I’ve used it for so long, it becomes the best shotgun in the game (for me to get wins with personally). The terminus for me is basically a crown and king that shoots just as fast and holds more ammo (although C&K is better with slugs). But I absolutely agree with the fact that you say it feels clunky to use, being slowed down while using levering is always a negative and levering weapons aren’t for everyone to begin with. Nevertheless I am a terminus enthusiast because of the fun special ammo and lever action capabilities.
And thank you for finally making the guide, I can stop asking now lol
Terminus handcannon with flachette makes a great pair with the Sparks.
But you still need to spend all the money and trait points to make it possible so...
Try Caldwell handcannon flechette instead. Its just as good, but the panic followup shot comes a little faster
With levering (and maybe bulletgrubber), it’s a poor man’s Auto 5 that can take more kinds of special ammo, and pair up with Quatermaster as a handcannon. Otherwise, Romero and Specter will serve you just as well at less cost
Addendum: you’d think with it being visibly marked as a 10 gauge it’d have a little extra SOMETHING going for it, range at the very least.
Personally it's my favourite weapon in the whole game. I always use slugs unless I need to conserve cash so that's probably why I've never had any consistency issues with it.
@@bazinga1831 yes but it's not as fun and they aren't as cool
I usually use the hand cannon with Flechette rounds as a finisher/secondary. Shoot first with a rifle of your choice then rush. Plus the terminator reload makes the hand cannon superior to the full size
One of the scariest encounters I've faced in Hunt was at Graves. I saw the feet of either a grunt or player just outside the north east gate. So I told my trio, and 2 of us charged in full confidence. We ran into a man running terminus, with levering and dragons breath. It didn't do a lot of damage, but holy hell did we panic. Never expected to run into a flame thrower.
Love this gun, never take it without levering or iron repeater.
I've found that if you have quartermaster, and levering a Terminus handcannon with Flechette is a really nasty secondary for a Winnie. It lets you put ungodly amounts of pressure on a team that you can then follow up on really easily with your Winnie. And the Winnie can easily hold its own in close range with or without levering, so you're not even sacrificing much with the flechette. They just synergize with each other really, really well. You can throw Iron Repeater in there to make it godly too. That way no trait is there only for one weapon, and they support each other at every turn.
Ungodly expensive though. Ultimately, you could just take long ammo instead I guess. That said the Terminus on its own is pretty lack luster. It feels cooler than it is good.
Yeah I use winnie centenial with terminus handcannon and its so good
My friend spent the entirety of the last event trying to unlock the slugs for this weapon. I sent him this video and it so perfectly summed up his feeling on the whole experience. Not to mention he's always broke because he does expensive loadouts like that all the time.
The Terminus is really my all time favourite shotgun in this game. It is the only gun where I get consistent one tap kills and with levering it is a true beast.
I think I only like the Terminus because I hate the Spectre so much. It needs its traits, but then it's usable. Even with traits I can never like the Spectre and wish I had a Romero or Caldwell Rival every time.
''i never played a gun that had so many hitmarkers without killing'' time to try out the winchester marksman for next vid!
Really good writing with all the allusions you use, subscribed
Maybe mention the disadvantage of Levering, as you cannot move as freely, which is a big downside for a shotgun. Except for slugs, jumpshots are the way to go with shotguns, as your spray is not effected, but it´s much harder to headshot you. I personally like flechette with long ammo, which can be very powerful with the Terminus.
Hey have you ever thought about doing a whole tier list where you give a short opinion about every weapon and their variants?
1:14 "Probably" got me there hahaha
It only took me watching through 18 of your videos until you asking me to subscribe actually worked. Keep it up.
Killed it... couldn't agree more..
I love the idea of the hand canon with levering but I just feel like there cheaper and more reliable picks ..
I like Terminus with how Unique it feel for Shotgun (BOMBLANCE IS STILL THE BEST)
Also Terminus is good for Hunter with Levering that you used normal Windfield before and want some additional Shotgun in life, then switch it into Terminus!
Bomblance is the way. Its my main go to in hunt
The terminus is the gun equivalent of a mediocre sandwich. But sometimes, even that mediocre sandwich is enough of a pick-me-up on a bad day given the right circumstance.
Levering with this gun was some of the most fun I had. I just cleared a room with it like it was a spas-12.
man i been here since the first week of videos and i gotta say this content just gets better and better! XD
I actually really enjoy bringing in a lebel marksman with a terminus hand cannon levering included. A lot of people will get aggressive when they see an opportunity to close the gap on someone with a rifle. Especially a scoped rifle. (Assuming they’ve figured that out). The amount of times I’ve surprised someone shotgun or melee charging me thinking I’ll panic and rush my shots with the rifle is to many to count now. I can only imagine the surprise when I whip out a shorty and dump 3 or 4 shells into their chest
Terminus with pennyshot and levering is beast
Every time the Terminus comes up in my hunt groups, the conversation goes loosely like this:
"Why would you take that thing?"
"Because it's fun, or because you'd rather pay trait points than dollars for a Crown and King."
"So it's not good?"
"If you think the crown is good, the terminus is good too."
Exception being, if you play it with slugs or flechette, the answer is more like "I just don't like how the Specter looks."
I'm convinced this gun was balanced around having Levering.
Bad news: It's kind of useless without it.
Good news: Just like the Winfield, it was balanced with it being the only gun in a loadout capable of using said trait.
If you break this proposition, you end up with an overpowered loadout for mere 4 upgrade points (lever-action weapons are all relatively cheap in Hunt as well).
So consider that: Even without Quartermaster, you can have two lever-action weapons in the form of this shotgun's Handcannon version and any of the many short versions of the Winfield 1873C. The Vandal Deadeye is probably the best pick, considering how it can cover both medium and relatively long ranges while still acting as a decent backup to the Terminus thanks to having a 8 round magazine and Levering providing it with amazing RoF.
If you do have Quartermaster, you can use a large variant of either the Shotgun or the Winfield rifle (both 1873C and the original 1873); If you do chose to "upsize" your Winnie Rifle, the variants I think are the best suited are 1873C Marksman (direct upgrade to the Deadeye, though you may not like being forced to use a medium scope), the 1873 Swift for quick reloads or the 1873 Talon for having the most stylish axe gun of the entire game (extremely deadly too).
Honestly man these are so good, such a good cross between solid info and comedy. Cant wait for the next!
If you are gonna talk about shotguns you need to go over both sizes. The hand canon benefits tremendously from Penny. A full size is better with Slug or Buckshot. Depends if it's your main damage dealer or backup. Slugs for main, buckshot for backup play.
Fletchet is designed mainly as a team assist/2 tap not a kill shot on all shotguns that have it. Its not a Terminus issue, be objective.
Specter gets worse stats with Penny as opposed to the Terminus. Specter Compact does better with Flechette than with Buckshot because of the tight spread and bleed (same damage cap) Slugs is generally best but at close quarters you want spread not precision on a shotgun, in my opinion.
With Levering full Terminus stomps full Specters and Crowns. Only dies to a full size Romero due to range.
The spread is tighter than the Crown & King with a negligible difference in fire rate(w/ levering). When levering you should always use buckshot, as the one shot range is nearly as far as the specter and the two shot range is very competitive. The reason people complain about the hitmarkers with this gun is because it’s difficult to shoot center of mass while levering. However, if you learn the recoil this thing becomes a monster and the best spam shotgun in the game.
The delivery of these lines makes the vid. Subbed. Keep sending me illegal memes.
> if no sparks/martini: ammo pool secondary
> if sparks/martini, no quartermaster: uppercut
> if sparks/martini, quartermaster, no levering: rival handcannon + flechette
> if sparks/martini, quartermaster, levering: terminus hancannon + flechette
“Like a father who is 15 years into his trip to pickup cigarettes”
Home Address: What do you think of the idea of boss variants? Butcher who has less melee presence but controls flaming leeches similar to a meat head, assassin who is permanently split and you have to contend with multiple of them able to do full attacks at once, spider that leaves webs that can slow, and maybe blind or poison you instead of spit venom, maybe scrapbeak who has a gun instead of melee weapons? Okay, probably not that last one... But I still think the idea has some merit to expanding the types of encounters you can face.
I think the best way to implement that would be weekly rotations that are shown on the home screen in-game, so you don't pack stuff that is completely useless against a boss variant you didn't know about. Anyway, hope I can see your thoughts on this idea.
Man please keep doing hunt content, I’m loving it and your videos and so clean and great to watch. Keep it seminal 💕
I honestly don’t understand this one, I feel the terminus is very consistent and honestly with buck shot and levering I feel this is probably the shotgun I would be the most comfortable with in a gunfight, and this is coming from someone with 1,000 hours on hunt and a lot spent on shotgun. I find it insta kills a lot and if it doesn’t it basically always kills in 2 shots if your in a normal shotgun range. It’s a very awesome gun and probably my favorite shotgun with the proper load out, to each there own I guess!
Shit I don't even play this game just because the FOV makes it feel like playing the game through full-colour NVG binoculars but I still watch your videos. Great work :)
You forgot to mention exactly how far the terminus bleed range is on flechette. It's like 80 meters btw. 60 for the handcannon. But the comfortable range is 30-40 meters if you have levering.
It is, in fact, my favorite gun. But needs levering and flechette.
I would disagree about terminus. The terminus is always consistent with me but I would argue that the spencer would take the place for this video. The spencer always lets me down. I feel like I'm cursed with it every time I use it something goes wrong and I have a horrible experience but when I use the terminus I clean house and its a great time. Glad there making a new pump action maybe that one will serve me well. Anyway great video keep it up!
You earned another sub dude! I love watching ur videos and find them pretty funny as well as informative.
I'd like to think certain guns like the Dolch, Officer, throwing knives or Mosin's are more PC oriented weapons. Where as on consoles, its Explosive Crossbows, Terminus Flechette, Dum Dum Chain Pistols with fanning, and throwing axes that are more heavily favored (perhaps) because of the clunky feeling of aiming with a controller.
Lol hunt is one of those games that I really never keep downloaded for long. I have both pc and console versions but never play it for very long before deleting it. It's fun, but everything I get lured back in, I just feel like it's such a grind that I inevitably stop playing. I love the concept and I love how it works and feels in game, but you kinda get your fill after a few good games. Bad luck and sloppy playing make it fun again when I pick it back up, but I eventually just find myself trying a few guns and putting it down.
Its not a great gun, but damn if it isnt hysterical to load you and your buddy up with Dragonsbreath and Levering on a night map. Its like having a rapid fire flashbang with about the same lethality, but its worth it just imagining the panic that issues when 2-3 flamethrowers light up a building
It is much better with 1.9
Another great video HomeReel. I don't really do shotguns, but after watching this video I will give this weapon a try. Keep these videos coming dude, I love your channel.
You don’t use flachet to one shot. It’s for pressure. You shoot them so that you know they will need to heal. Add some pressure and often they will be forced to over extend or die to bleed. That being said you’d probably get more flachet value/$ from a Caldwell. Or even a handcannon
This review is BRUTAL! I've been using the Terminus, but maybe that was a mistake...
Gonna try your advice next time I'm in the bayou.
I commented too early. Switching guns now.
lol yeah some people swear by this gun so it could just be me being bad
I will just say, I 100% swear by pennyshot in the Terminus. I have no idea why but it works amazingly for me, it's also worth mentioning you get more ammo then normal with pennyshot. And if I had a dollar for every time I've had 3 shots 3 kills with the pennies, but that can entirely be confirmation bias.
Hey, the new update helped this gun a lot surprisingly.
It's been great for long team fights in compounds for me
Off topic, but I would like to request a video on the Springfield 1866. I just got my Old Tusk today, and although I rarely use it, I'd still like a video on the gun.
That opening joke is gold
I've been playing hunt since the testing days before full release, oof it's been a minute. I've never claimed to be good at the game or even terribly knowledgeable but considering the fact I am terrible at video games; I generally prefer weapons that didn't really require traits to be good or useful. It's amazing when you have a character fully decked out and ready to dominate with great gear and traits especially when it pays off. But if it doesn't then defeat is all the worse feeling. I'm never going to be a great hunt player, and I think I set myself back for a long time trying to go for the meta and the cool stuff and the high tier loadouts. Sometimes simple is better.
Your jokes are actually getting really good dude. Keep it up and keep making these kinds of videos and you'll get big pretty soon I feel 👍
I've been thinking of running a Springfield with dumdum bullets and a suppressed nagant with poison ammo and fanning. If those 2 stack the way I think they will in the middle of a firefight it might work out just fine.
It's a hard life to try and stand toe to toe with the pure quality that is the Romero shotgun
Totally depends on levering for me.
If I'm doing a shotgun night, first round is a double barrel, and if the survive for points they get promoted to terminus.
That thing without levering is just...hot garbage, because having a shotgun that doesn't reliably one-tap with a very slow fire rate is pain.
But with levering it turns into having a C&K with even more bullets and way bigger "cool factor": that is a good time.
The sawnoff for this is just...no, however. The most painful moment of my life was bodying someone with a sparks, and then switching to the cutdown terminus (with pennies) to get that extra 1 hit from about ten feet.
I had to stab them to death. It was like shooting at neo. The pennies curved around him.
I think since it's more then a Spector it should have more range and a tight spread like that of the Romero as a sorta higher tier Romero since it's slower give it consistent good spread and range.
Levering doesn't make the gun better it's makes it barely more viable like it's marginally better then the Cent with levering your better off using the Winnie Swift and mag dumpin.
Used to love this shotgun. Now I resent it. Great video as always brotha
okay that subscriber joke made me sad plus this is super helpful so fine.
I've had some very succesfull boss lair pushes and team wipes with Terminus levering, but way too often it leaves me with multiple hits but no kills. :D
I feel like the Winfield Slate makes both Spectre and Terminus almost obsolete.
If you have Levering, the Terminus (especially handcannon), is amazing. Genuinely, it's fire rate is basically a Crown & King but as a twoslot. Which means I can bring a springfield deadeye or bow.
Without levering though...it's probably the worst gun in the game.
Terminus is good but only with levering. It offers a fast fire rate with decent ammo count, which makes it a great option for trios. And dragons breath isn’t too bad either, being much more accurate than anyone probably realizes.
The terminus with slugs can make you feel like you can fight God some games and then others you end up feeling like you bought a gold plated confetti cannon
As a masochist can confirm, happy you took my comment to heart!
As someone who is a shotgun main, I'd say its alright. Yeah you got to get used to the spread, but once you do. You know what's a 3 shot distance, a two shot distance, and a one shot distance subconsciously.
Bro that carpetbagger line was 🔥🤌
terminus is really good in some areas compared to other shotguns. half the clips had flechette ammo which of cours eis going to give you tons of hitmarkers
I doubt it, but I think that gator boy in the water with bounty towards the end was my buddy and I, we were in an almost identical situation and area. If it was GG lolol
I always love penny shot, you just need to know that range and you will always one/two shot hunter
Accidentally shot a guy in the head with that from like 20m thinking it was a rifle did no damage and died to that man almost instantly
Whenever I run shotguns, I run the spectre or the rival, as they rarely let me down. However, if my hunter survives, then they graduate to the terminus chad, as they get the perks to let it shine.
Love your videos, Mr. Reel! Keep it up :)
This guy is like SickSnipes, but for a game that's actually cool. :D
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The carpet bagger joke was 10/10
Trios and fire ammo or solo and fleschette! Secondary is bow with poison and concertina!
I enjoy levering flechett rounds. Tight spread, and I reliably get about 4 kills a game with that loudout.
with the most recent dragons breath buff, the terminus DB with levering is what I have the most fun with.
YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS HOMEREEL VIDEO!!!!
Terminus is tied for my favorite gun with the Specter. I don’t even run it with levering all the time. Yes I’m weird.
They recently changed the firerate of the weapon, both normally and with levering.
come back to the channel tomorrow (:
these are great videos! i wonder what your take on the vetterli is (personal favourite)
My mans made a video about shotguns when I am in progress of trying to steer away from shotguns because I was way to dependant on it.
The Terminus is in a weird spot. If they made it have better range, it would be broken. If they sped up the non-levering fire rate, it would be broken. They pretty much did the only thing they could without reworking the entire gun's spot in the lineup when they increased its levering fire rate. Its just kind of cursed to always be in between a specter and crown and king.
The small version fairs somewhat better when compared to the other small shotguns. You get 6 shots (instead of 3 for the specter compact) and the levering speed makes up for the reduced 1 hit range that all of the small shotguns have.
is it worth the hassle? not if you don't have levering. this is the only trait that is really needed. the others are good but are not important. i take the terminus because of the ROF for price vs the crown, not for the special rounds, which i can get with other shotguns.
I also love it. get mad kills with this and the sawed down version
I love the Terminus. It's also the weapon that has let me down the most :(
Lol, the to do list is complete! GG
Yep. As an average shotgun enjoyer, this pretty much sums up my terminus experience. Not really worth investing money and trait points into a gun that will probably more often let you down in fights than actually be useful.
The Terminus gives you so many hit markers, and so few kills, much like the Bornheim. Hey, now there's a masochistic loadout...
At least the Bornheim is semi auto so it has a reason to be so fucking awful and even then the only buff it needs is that it has less dmg fall off at mid ish range.
It‘s funny because I mostly use the Terminus + Penny shots when I use shotguns
Hey can you make a video showcasing the Concertina Bomb? My Teammates keep messing it up but i think its one of the strongest consumables in the game and i want to showcase to them how it looks if you know what you're doing with it !
Yeah you were right, it indeed was enough time for me to subscribe
when it works, it works. when it doesnt... FUCK... thought i remember going 3 games back to back to back with a terminus wiping the whole server with the single instrument of death.
Alright, alright already! Stop calling me out, I'm subscribing right now.
Seriously though, great videos