Painted Patina Shoe Shine | How to Polish Patina Shoes
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- čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
- In this video, we provide a quick and simple tutorial on how to polish and condition shoes with painted patina. It's very important to use the correct shoe products on painted patina! If you're not careful, it's easy to remove the patina finish and/or to ruin the colored patina finish applied by the maker.
When in doubt, use NEUTRAL shoe creams/waxes. Products without color pigment can be your best friends when caring for painted patina finishes.
Products used in video:
- Saphir Leather Soap
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- Saphir Pommadier Cream
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- Saphir Renovateur
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Video edited by: Ashley Saldanha
hello, your method is very good. Olga Berluti proceeds quite differently, let me explain. a baring (cleaning of old layers) with neutral wax. Then close the pores with yellow wax. finally apply the color of the shoe polish, accompanied by a few drops of water… Massage the leather well…. Good for you. I am a Frenchman from the Côte d'Azur😉.
I just posted a similar message. I am surprised they don't ever advise to use conditionner or shoe cream since wax does very few to nourish the leather. Applying wax over wax again and again, maybe it is part of the reasons why Berluti souliers show wrinkles so early.
Thank you Trenton and Heath for confirming what I also tell my clients who own exclusively patina shoes that I make for them. I'll show them this video for reference! Great day to you guys!
One thing we didn’t show in the video is that you CAN add wax to these shoes. This particular customer didn’t want wax. Again, just be careful if you’re using colored waxes.
Will you guys put out a special video for the 1K sub that is coming?
Henry Ho That sounds like a good idea! Any suggestions?
@@TrentonHeath buy a pair of shoes on Ebay, completely resole redye, full restore. Go for some uncommon colors, interesting combinations....etc Having fun basically!
Hey guys sorry i asked before and just wanted to know what do you guys use as a polishing rag to put in the shoe cream and all?
Will an old t shirt work ok? 100 percent cotton of course. Or does it have to be a dress shirt or buttoned shirt?
@@henryho2293 you mean 100K
Another interesting and informative video. It’s true: a little Saphir renovateur goes a long way.
Wonderful tutorial!
My process of cleaning and restoring patina shoes has never really consisted of using the soap, but it seems to be very gentle and did not affect the patina. I will try this out on a pair and see how they fair! Thanks for the tip!!
I also prefer to start with an application of Saphir Universelle creme, and then depending on how dry the leather is perhaps some renovateur. It is much lighter and for patina shoes doesnt really remove so much color like renovateur can.
Also, having the lasted shoe trees(or any shoe trees) in the shoes to help support the leather while i smooth those creases, and if you are going to do a glacage ( mirror shine) it helps to have the shoe trees for the support while you are polishing.
Thanks for taking time to make the video, really nice work!
Immanuel C Glad you enjoyed! Very good points. We appreciate you sharing, as we always enjoy hearing from others about their shine routines.
We’ll often use shoe trees in the shoes as well when polishing. It does help. Check out a couple of our other shine videos where we used shoe trees in them.
Immanuel what you think about using Mink oil?
@@rupaal depends on what you're attempting to achieve. Saphir mink oil is great for extremely dry leather. But it is slightly greasy but I have been able to attain a shine after its use.
I wish you live in Toronto Canada🙃 I will be your first customer
Never heard of leather soap. Always used saddle soap. Will definitely ditch the saddle soap for my Allen Edmonds
I'd hold on to it. It just depends on how soiled the leather gets. There are times when I use saddle soap. Leather soap is good for when the shoe just needs a slight cleaning before shining. SS comes in handy after an outdoor event and they got heavily soiled.
Trenton & Heath thank you!
Great video! Nice patina color!👍🏼🌟
Basic instructions,bit by bit...ty,it helped allot.
this video is really useful...
Another great video
I noticed that you used a horsehair brush throughout.
Many Japanese shiners like to use pig bristle to buff off the color cream, saying that helps to work it into the leather. Same wipe-down after to improve wax performance later too.
They often use high-grit sanding film on sole edges to smooth scuffs and dents...and to improve shine quality.
Thoughts on this?
Impressive work BTW.
Enjoying the channel...
There is a tutorial video online from Olga Berluti where she show how to take care of Berluti shoes. She seems to only use shoe polish (wax), and no cream, in order to nourish that Venezia leather. There is also a video from a Berluti boutique where the shoes are taken care of the very same way, without cream. One more thing, Olga insisted on the fact that we should put a lot of force/pressure on the leather.
Great vid guys, keep the great content coming. This helped me because I have a pair of shoes with a great painted petina. Also, I liked the Burluti shoes so I used the Google machine to check them out. I COULDN'T GET ON THEIR WEBSITE!!!! Come to find out, they must have checked my bank account and realized my account has insufficient funds to purchase a shoe lace (one) off their site LOL
M. P. The fact that they charge $900 just for a freaking sneaker would make me not want to buy from them even if I was rich. I’d just stick with the Allen Edmonds.
Why dont you use a shoe tree while polishing the shoes? The creases on the front still remain the same. Not using shoe tree is it intentional?
Thank you
Pretty sure they do it because they like to put their hand in the shoe to hold it when polishing. I started doing it recently and it does make it easier so thats my guess
I don't understand why Trenton & Heath didn't respond PERSONALLY to one of their viewer's question.
At least your customer didn't have to send his shoes back to france to have them shined.
You guys must have a lot of very rich clients from in and around the Nashville area ... 7 or 8 pairs of Berlutti shoes, and normally just sends them off to NYC to be cleaned and polished ?!
great video - nice shoes too!
Thank you!
Thank you very much! I peg two pairs of shoes (Patina) and did not know how to care for them.
Following your advice is great, unfortunately i can't get the products you use. But I get a good result.
In one of your other videos," 4 things to do with a new pair of shoes", you warned against using Saphir Renovateur on burnished, or patina shoes as the solvents in it could mess up the finish ... so what gives here?
Ignore that. Renovateur is 100% fine. Stay away from colored creams tho
@@kingsal1212 yeah I wondered about that. What about using Saphir Creme Universelle instead of renovateur? ANy thoughts?
@@kingsal1212 Why no colored cream? Will it make the leather crease?
@@JayandSarah I often use Creme Essentielle which supposed to be equivalent to Creme Universelle. I think Renovateur should be used once a year or on very dry leather. Colored cream and Creme Uni should be enough for regular polish.
What do you think about Berluti shoes ? Are they worth it the price they go for
When it comes to patina shoes how do you do a mirror shine on the tip and heal ?
Thank you
Nice work pretty ease my to understand keep those tutorials
I have one question on a new pair of shoes what products are the best to shine or polish before the first wear thanks
abrahan sosa chavez When I get a new pair of leather shoes, the first thing I do is apply a good conditioner to the shoes. The leather on that shoe usually isn’t conditioned by the manufacturer, so it may have sat there or in the store for months. Next, I would apply 1-2 coats of wax to the shoes in order to provide some protection to the leather. **Side note: if you want to apply some shoe cream after the conditioner, you can. It’s personal preference. Hope that helps.
Is it me or do all of his shoes look the same? I like having many different styles, colors for variety.
So good thank you. Would love to know where to purchase the products you use. Thank you again.
Jeff Walker Thanks...glad you enjoyed! Most of the products we use are also sold on our website www.potterandsons.com. If you have any questions regarding anything, please let us know.
I saw someone once paint mod pod he on the welt and heel. What is your opinion about that?
Should I treat museum colored shoes the same? I have 2 pairs of cognac museums from cobbler union & meermin that I haven't worn yet.
Berluti shoes!!!
I don’t trust a man who doesn’t polish his own shoes.
What the different between buffing with brush and cloth after applying cream?
Thanks
DEN3366 You can buff off the cream, once it’s dried, with a cloth or brush. I just think a brush does better and makes it much easier. We prefer to use the cloth after we’re done in order to remove any excess pigment and to bring out a nice shine.
Great tutorial. I also have a pair of Berluti loafers, they look pretty much the same, mine just have reverse stiching if that makes sense. How often would you say to use the leather soap ? Before every polishing or only if the shoes are dirty? I have the Saphir saddle soap, but ill pick up some leather soap (never knew there was even a difference).
Nick De Bruin Glad you enjoyed! No, you definitely don’t need it before every shine...just every now and then or if they’re dirty. Both soaps would work. The leather soap is just milder and has more conditioning agents than the saddle soap. 👍🏻
Question: I have a pair of Paul Evan's NY Cagney II in tobacco. I wore them once, and wanted to cate for them so I used Saphir renovateur on them. I stopped after I saw that 50% of the patina was removed. Vender said that the renovateur removes hand patina and they refuse to do anything about it. Spoke to the guys at the hanger project as well as multiple different cobblers that say that the renovateur should not be removing patina at all and that it is issues with the finish. Any thoughts or advise? I can send pictures if that helps.
chris Stagg Thanks for your question. That’s very odd. I agree with the Hanger Project and the other cobblers. Renovateur is a very gentle conditioner, so it definitely should not have removed any hand painted patina. We use Renovateur on a lot of hand painted patina shoes, including these, and it didn’t do anything harmful. If you had said you used Saphir RenoMat, I would have been worried, but the Renovateur shouldn’t have caused that.
i dont have a paul evan's shoes. but i suspect the patina on your shoe was made with shoe cream and not leather dye. a patina with shoe cream is not permanent but less punishing if you made a mistake.
MH J Great point! I’m not sure why an expensive pair of shoes like Paul Evans would patina their shoes with cream, but that’s definitely a possibility. Definitely agree that if this is what was done, Renovateur could have messed with those cream finishes.
@@TrentonHeath I found it common to see the conditioning cream bringing some color out of the shoes. But not really enough to make a difference in the appearance. "50% of the patina was removed" is very odd.
I had a pair of their double monks and same thing happened. Saphir washed away the color on the shoes like Bleach does to a pair of tshirt. And the leather creased worse than my $200 Magnanni (which I love and still wear). I had to sent my pair to a patina artist to completely strip and re-dye that double monks. That was the first pair and also the last pair of PE that I paid for. For $425 and 4 months of waiting, plus the scarcity and headache to deal with. Bring that money and buy a pair of Cobbler Union or Jfitzpatrick will save you a lot of time and money.
If I were you I would only scrub one shoe at a time, then wipe. I don't think it's a good idea to have a shoe covered in soap sitting waiting for you to finish the other shoe before wiping off. BTW that's Avel leather soap, not "Saphir". I'm pretty sure someone has pointed that out by now, tho'.
Question: I recently purchased MDO shoe cream and I previously polished with Kiwi wax. Is it okay to go straight into using the MDO cream polish for my future polishes on this shoe or do you recommend I strip the wax polish with Renomat prior to applying the cream polish in order to allow the cream polish to actually absorb into the leather?
Thanks in advance!
Hi, Colby! Glad to see you made the switch. 😉 Yes, in order for your shoes to get the full benefits of the MDO, I would strip all of the old wax off of your shoes. If you’re using the Reno Mat, just make sure that you test it on a hidden area of your shoe first. I’m not sure what type of leather you have, and I don’t want you to strip off any patina finishes. If you have any other questions, let us know.
Trenton & Heath is there something less harsh (or less expensive 🤣) that you recommend to strip off the old wax? I’ve heard of people using acetone.
Colby Pearce E-mail us picture of your shoes so that we can take a look at the leather, and we’ll give you our best recommendation. Customerservice@potterandsons.com
I've put saphir black cream on a really subtle black navy painted patina shoes....now they're just regular black wholecuts 😞
Is there a way to bring them back or i will just end up removing the dye aswell? Thinking about using renomat but i fear i might worsen the problem and ruin the shoes even more...
Is this the same regimen you would recommend for a pair of Magnanni shoes with heavy patina? Leather soap then Renovateur and then neutral polish? I thought Renovateur could strip the Patina finish?
yes it does, use shoe cream instead or use it with extreme care (test it on invisible part first, then use a very thin layer before adding more to avoid stains, last advice is to do large gesture without much pressure, it might take only seconds before it stains or remove color if too much is left at the same spot). I would only use Renovateur once a year or when the leather is very dry.
What would getting a shoe polish in a shop like yours cost?
Ben Heinatz Hi! For a basic shine (clean/shoe cream) we charge $10-$15, depending upon the products they want us to use. Saphir products are $15. We have more detailed shine packages that are $20-$50 depending. $50 is for a full strip down and spa treatment for your shoes.
@@TrentonHeath Thanks for the info; that sounds very reasonable. Have a great week, guys!
For those with patina here is a later video: czcams.com/video/b10X4red8cM/video.html
Skip to 2:07 in the link provided.
If there is wax on the shoe, when do you remove that? Before or after the soap?
If think the purpose of the leather soap is to remove dirt and old waxes before conditionning.
Do you think the sperry topsider leather slip on’s are a decent shoe? They run about $100. I have a pair that I never broke in and forgot about that I’ve dug out to use as my everyday slip on shoes. I also wanted to kinda play around with conditioning the leather and stuff lol. I used the wilsons leather protector spray, that I had for a jacket that got sold a while ago, so far. Also what do you think of coconut oil as a conditioner? I know it darkens leather but does it work ok if someone is alright with the change in color?
Paige 1996 Yes, we like a good pair of Sperry’s topsiders. We both own several ourselves. In regards to conditioning them, it’s really a personal preference. I’ve never used coconut oil on shoes. Many of the Sperry’s are made from raw, unfinished leathers, so there’s a very good chance that conditioning them will darken them some. If you’re okay with that then I say go ahead. I would just be careful that you’re not using any conditioners that will leave behind a sticky or really oily residue. I can imagine coconut oil possibly doing that, but I could be wrong.
How about new tutorials
that was ever bit of 5$ worth of work
Patina on my shoes means it’s time to get a new pair of shoes period!!!!!!!
a 10 minute video to essentially say “just use neutral non pigmented shoe polish when working on patina’d shoes” what a revelation.
I thought it was a rule if thumb not to wear square shoes ... God there ugly .. but nice job by the way
It's an American rule. In places like Italy they tend to go more crazy with shoe designs but that's because the people tend to dress more flamboyant with their dress wear. If you know what you're doing then you can obviously pull it off. Problem is most of us don't lol