One thing I've grown to appreciate about MIDI over the years is how much better it sounds on proper hardware. I first heard this track on a consumer-grade SoundBlaster card that was trying its best, and now I'm like "it could have sounded like THIS??"
I was a big fan of Duke Nukem as a kid, including the original 2 platformers. I always associated this music with the LameDuke beta and thought of it as another theme for Duke, second only to the more famous "Grab Bag". Rise of the Triad wasn't on my radar until years later, despite knowing of Wolfenstein, Blake Stone, Doom and Quake.
It doesn't matter what sound system I hear it on, that second guitar verse slaps impossibly hard - and the little handoff back to the original guitar verse is LUDICROUS.
@@Kenshiro3rd Minor correction: The SC-88 Pro didn't come out until 1996, while this game came out on in late 1994. He almost certainly composed it on the SC-55mkII, which came out in 1993.
Yeah, for sure. This was the gold standard for video games back in the day. I think the XP/JV/XV models improved the orchestral sounds quite a bit, but I think those models are a lot less usable overall; a lot muddier and more specialized. The Roland TTS-1/Edirol Hyper Canvas has a lot of these sounds in it, and sounds almost identical overall, but it's missing too many sounds for it to be a true successor. No ethnic kits, and there's a super nice string patch they left out too. :(
0:41 what kicks in right here, and i will take this to my last dying breath, is a saxophone NOT a guitar when civvie compared this soundtrack to that of symphony of the night something kinda awakened within this track. I will say this, pre dusk i was NOT a hulshult fan, his cover of this in the remake is downright noisy to the point of being terrible but now he's definitely honed his craft. I think the personality of this game's soundtrack is more childlike and innocent than demon slaying and hellwalking. Something more along the lines of Bill and Ted going back in time to fight politically ambiguous nazis.
Hulshult did a fine job, a bit hit and miss; in his defense, there's a lot of tracks in the OST. There are definitely better versions of ROTT covers out there though.
Too bad that most games did not use PMD sound driver (created by Masahiro Kajihara for most Yamaha FM synth chips) or tracker modules (PC sound cards had better polyphony than Amiga sound chip for pulse-code modulation sound). Nevertheless some old MIDI files still sounds good using BassMIDI soundfont (today actual MIDI synthesizers are rather rare).
@@Jason75913 Rare in gaming use, ubiquitous in the realm of music. Even analog synths come with midi connectivity these days, and GM is a standard feature on digital keyboards. That's said, you probably wouldn't want to listen to DOS games on a modern workstation, they weren't exactly composed with today's samples in mind.
@@ozzyp97 "rare in gaming use" Depends on what you're talking about, old games are still "alive", no? Even if their userbases aren't as large as the latest games, the modules are still sought after. Don't musicians prefer JV/XV units, primarily? Indeed, musical instruments are irrelevant to mention, they obviously don't count because, as you just said, the old games that can use these old ROMpler modules weren't designed with today's gear in mind.
Most TV and film productions here in the Philippines usually use MIDI for the music. And they often use the default Windows Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth.
Just compared the sound quality in this video to that of my Roland XV-5080. The Sound Canvas is no joke! They are about on par in sound quality, as well as the quality of the instrument samples - at least those used in this song. The SC-88 here is actually a bit thicker and bassier sounding, but maybe that's just a result of the video compression, etc.
Okay, I know that this is from Rise of the Triad, but my dingus condole baby brain makes me think this sounds like a combination of Mega Man and Castlevania.
Definitely not: czcams.com/video/8_Ofwh5TkuA/video.html Sounds Blasters had OPL for MIDI playback. Unless you had an AWE32 or a Wavetable module, but even then it certainly didn't sound anything like a Sound Canvas.
I have to disagree with you there, this does actually have some incredibly realistic sounding electric guitars. It does also have the distortion and overdrive guitar sounds from the original grey and black SC-88 and SC-88vl and even with some of Duke Nukem's soundtrack including the end level music even I thought it sounded like real electric guitars but that was an audio recording of an SC-88.
![Goin' Down the Fast Way from Rise of the Triad [2022 Nostalgia RemiX]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/HGA8hcryTKg/mqdefault.jpg)
Just to put into perspective, ROTT was released in 1995. This particular soundtrack still kicks so much ass even in today's gaming music imo!
94.
So many games from back then had soundtracks that were absolute bangers
Lee Jackson and his friends did a ludicrous job yeah
This is SUPER!! I've never heard "Goin' Down The Fast Way" sound so gorgeous until now! Thank you immensely!
Thank you civvie
we owe him such a debt..
#freecivvie
Muh eceleb pandering
One thing I've grown to appreciate about MIDI over the years is how much better it sounds on proper hardware. I first heard this track on a consumer-grade SoundBlaster card that was trying its best, and now I'm like "it could have sounded like THIS??"
One of the finest MIDIs ever crafted. Civvie didn't send me, I remember this the first time round tyvm
I was a big fan of Duke Nukem as a kid, including the original 2 platformers. I always associated this music with the LameDuke beta and thought of it as another theme for Duke, second only to the more famous "Grab Bag". Rise of the Triad wasn't on my radar until years later, despite knowing of Wolfenstein, Blake Stone, Doom and Quake.
The timeline where LameDuke came out as a complete game with its original aesthetic would have been a magnificent timeline.
@@RhetoricaRhamnusia it certainly would.
It doesn't matter what sound system I hear it on, that second guitar verse slaps impossibly hard - and the little handoff back to the original guitar verse is LUDICROUS.
Civvie sent me.
This is how ROTT should have been composed. SC-88 pro works perfectly with the majority of the games that were released during the 90's.
I had a Midi soundcard in 1996 and it sounded pretty much like this
It WAS composed that way. This is literally how Jackson intended it to be heard.
@@Kenshiro3rd Minor correction: The SC-88 Pro didn't come out until 1996, while this game came out on in late 1994. He almost certainly composed it on the SC-55mkII, which came out in 1993.
Music is still the best from any 90s fps
He composed it on Gravis Ultrasound Max iirc
Nice, Civvie
Awesome!
On of my favorites from ROTT.
Thanks for sharing.
You're doing gods work
the whole soundtrack is such a banger.
UH OH IT'S A BANGER!
But seriously though, holy shit this piece is good.
Thank you Civvie
Yeah, for sure. This was the gold standard for video games back in the day. I think the XP/JV/XV models improved the orchestral sounds quite a bit, but I think those models are a lot less usable overall; a lot muddier and more specialized.
The Roland TTS-1/Edirol Hyper Canvas has a lot of these sounds in it, and sounds almost identical overall, but it's missing too many sounds for it to be a true successor. No ethnic kits, and there's a super nice string patch they left out too. :(
Civvie sent me too.
Sounds great !
yes, auditory gold pouring into my ears
Screams ain’t a crime… _yet._
Exquisito
Show ! Eu ainda gosto muito desse jogo !
catJAM!!!!!
Should have pressed "ALL" again so we could see the playback on the LCD. Unless that's just a static image...
mostra o shadow warrior na musica 254mm usando esse mesmo soundcanvas por favor?
LameDuke sent me here.
0:41 what kicks in right here, and i will take this to my last dying breath, is a saxophone NOT a guitar when civvie compared this soundtrack to that of symphony of the night something kinda awakened within this track. I will say this, pre dusk i was NOT a hulshult fan, his cover of this in the remake is downright noisy to the point of being terrible but now he's definitely honed his craft. I think the personality of this game's soundtrack is more childlike and innocent than demon slaying and hellwalking. Something more along the lines of Bill and Ted going back in time to fight politically ambiguous nazis.
I don't mind Hulshult, but his covers of ROTT's OST pierces my eardrums. I wouldn't cry if all of it vanished from the internet.
Hulshult did a fine job, a bit hit and miss; in his defense, there's a lot of tracks in the OST. There are definitely better versions of ROTT covers out there though.
Do caralho.
Too bad that most games did not use PMD sound driver (created by Masahiro Kajihara for most Yamaha FM synth chips) or tracker modules (PC sound cards had better polyphony than Amiga sound chip for pulse-code modulation sound). Nevertheless some old MIDI files still sounds good using BassMIDI soundfont (today actual MIDI synthesizers are rather rare).
rare because there is little point in them these days due to current software/PC power
@@Jason75913 Rare in gaming use, ubiquitous in the realm of music. Even analog synths come with midi connectivity these days, and GM is a standard feature on digital keyboards. That's said, you probably wouldn't want to listen to DOS games on a modern workstation, they weren't exactly composed with today's samples in mind.
@@ozzyp97 "rare in gaming use"
Depends on what you're talking about, old games are still "alive", no? Even if their userbases aren't as large as the latest games, the modules are still sought after. Don't musicians prefer JV/XV units, primarily?
Indeed, musical instruments are irrelevant to mention, they obviously don't count because, as you just said, the old games that can use these old ROMpler modules weren't designed with today's gear in mind.
Most TV and film productions here in the Philippines usually use MIDI for the music.
And they often use the default Windows Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth.
no .....no.... no pleaseee ! don"t shoot ! pleaseeeeeee no ! no ! no ! haahhha
Just compared the sound quality in this video to that of my Roland XV-5080. The Sound Canvas is no joke! They are about on par in sound quality, as well as the quality of the instrument samples - at least those used in this song. The SC-88 here is actually a bit thicker and bassier sounding, but maybe that's just a result of the video compression, etc.
Okay, I know that this is from Rise of the Triad, but my dingus condole baby brain makes me think this sounds like a combination of Mega Man and Castlevania.
Because its so good? Lol
This is how it sounds on a SoundBlaster card
Definitely not:
czcams.com/video/8_Ofwh5TkuA/video.html
Sounds Blasters had OPL for MIDI playback. Unless you had an AWE32 or a Wavetable module, but even then it certainly didn't sound anything like a Sound Canvas.
MT-32 -- SUX
The electric guitar parts don't sound as good using this. They don't really sound like electric guitar at all.
I have to disagree with you there, this does actually have some incredibly realistic sounding electric guitars.
It does also have the distortion and overdrive guitar sounds from the original grey and black SC-88 and SC-88vl
and even with some of Duke Nukem's soundtrack including the end level music even I thought it sounded like real
electric guitars but that was an audio recording of an SC-88.