The way I do it is remove the intake manifold plenum, then lay the alternator off to the side. Then access to the nut for the tensioner is very easy. You might as well replace the spark plugs while you are there, because the plugs are easy to get to.
Thanks for the video - it was a lifesaver. I ordered the kit for $125. It was Gates P/N 38379K as shown in the video. It came with a double sided grooved belt. The job went as he shows in the video with the worst part getting the nut started back on the tensioner stud. With plenty of light and the correct extensions, it finally started on. The rest of the job was pretty straightforward. With the front wheel and the splash guard removed and working from the bottom, I was able to use a ratcheting 15mm combination wrench with the box end of another longer wrench hooked onto the open end of the shorter wrench. This amplified the leverage and made slipping the belt on much easier. There were a couple of service bulletins in the box. One was the directions for installation, and the other spoke about a smaller diameter pulley available if the belt is too short. This was the result of aftermarket A/C or P/S units with larger pulleys, but the belt they supplied fit my van perfectly.
I am glad you got the job done. My 99 Voyager is still on the road long after this necessary modification (that the factory should have had on to begin with).
Dude you are amazing! I have struggled (blood sweat n busted knuckles) with this job o before ....that idea with the rope on the end of the box end wrench 😱😱😱 fucking genius man! I love you strange but true Keep it up
i noticed you installed a grooved ridged pulley... did you replace the belt with a double sided grooved one? coz if you didn't it wont work the grooved pulley will cut into the standard serpentine belt and rip it to pieces
Yup. I say he installed a wrong grooved pulley on what originally is supposed to be a smooth pulley surface. you're correct in saying that the grooved pulley will eat up the smooth side of the belt.
@@mikegarcia5087 It's a Gates Kit for the Chrysler/Dodge vans that have problems with belts slipping off. It uses a double sided ribbed belt. My 2000 Caravan Sport belt slips off going through water puddles, car wash, potholes, and snow drifts etc.
Very helpful and thank you for posting this. Our local Dodge dealer could not find any replacement kits to fix the problem. Do you happen to have a parts number or source where it can be found? We have a '99 Grand Caravan and just this winter the serpentine belt has started slipping off (4th time now). Our mechanic has changed some pullies and the belt and it still keeps doing it. Is it possible it could be the positioning of the idler pully? Dodge service said there is a bracket that repositions that pully.
On the Dodge / Plymouth / Chrysler Mini Vans, the serpentine belt will hang over the edge of the tensioner pulley about 1/6 to 1/8 of an inch, causing not only excessive wear on the pulleys and the belt, but makes it more likely the belt will slip off after you hit a mud puddle or slushy snow. It doesn't matter how many standard idler pulleys, tensioner pulleys, and single side grooved serpentine belts are installed on your mini van, if they are the smoothe side pulleys and single side grooved belt, that problem will keep persisting until you install an after market system like Gates, Dayco, or Continental that have the grooved pulleys and double grooved belt. It's a known issue with these mini vans, yet Dodge / Chrysler / Plymouth refused to do an official recall.
I have a 91 new yorker & my dad has a 91 dodge caravan with the 3.3. We live in Oklahoma & get lots of rain but not much snow, we've never had this issue. I can see if the idler pulley bracket is bent & belt could run off the low side edge.
I have 2000 voyager 3.3l with an almost new tensioner pulley, replaced last year, 3rd time its been replaced before I realized its just a bad design. the belt ALWAYS rides close to the edge of the pulley and if it gets too slippery it just falls right off. Happened about four times last year during the snowy season. Im getting ready to do this replacement so it doesnt happen again.
Yea they do fall off. It's fucking ridiculous. And it doesn't have to be raining for them to do so. It's so not safe. It's also costly and inconvenient. Chrysler is really starting to piss me off. They should be absorbing this cost I'm stuck again thanks to this fucking belt.
never had that happen have over 13 3.3 in my family 1990 to 2005 not one has done that I have the one of original first made 3.3's built may 1 1989....
Its been a problem for me on my 2000 3.3l for well over 7 years now. 3 new tensioners, countless new belts, still happened about 4 times last year during winter. If the belt gets slippery at all it just falls right off.
You have to buy the "correction kit" from Gates. It includes a replacement pulley with a lip on it that does not allow the belt to slip off. Too bad the company did not do that to begin with.
You have to unbolt the alternator, then you have to either turn it JUST right so it will fit between the backside of the engine and the firewall (what I did), or find a way you can lower it down to the ground. I recommend looping a bit of Paracord on it if you intend to lower it.
The way I do it is remove the intake manifold plenum, then lay the alternator off to the side. Then access to the nut for the tensioner is very easy. You might as well replace the spark plugs while you are there, because the plugs are easy to get to.
Very clear and a nice special tool set up. Thanks for the time with that.
Thanks for the video - it was a lifesaver. I ordered the kit for $125. It was Gates P/N 38379K as shown in the video. It came with a double sided grooved belt. The job went as he shows in the video with the worst part getting the nut started back on the tensioner stud. With plenty of light and the correct extensions, it finally started on. The rest of the job was pretty straightforward. With the front wheel and the splash guard removed and working from the bottom, I was able to use a ratcheting 15mm combination wrench with the box end of another longer wrench hooked onto the open end of the shorter wrench. This amplified the leverage and made slipping the belt on much easier. There were a couple of service bulletins in the box. One was the directions for installation, and the other spoke about a smaller diameter pulley available if the belt is too short. This was the result of aftermarket A/C or P/S units with larger pulleys, but the belt they supplied fit my van perfectly.
Why not just replace belt tensioner it's only 1 bolt at front holding it on
I am glad you got the job done. My 99 Voyager is still on the road long after this necessary modification (that the factory should have had on to begin with).
Dude you are amazing!
I have struggled (blood sweat n busted knuckles) with this job o
before ....that idea with the rope on the end of the box end wrench 😱😱😱 fucking genius man!
I love you
strange but true
Keep it up
Thank you Joannah. It try to figure out the best way to do it. Stay in touch for more hints. Catch me on facebook binthere222@yahoo.com
Something is wrong here because both polley run the smooth side of belt and though polley have grove in them?
i noticed you installed a grooved ridged pulley... did you replace the belt with a double sided grooved one? coz if you didn't it wont work the grooved pulley will cut into the standard serpentine belt and rip it to pieces
Yup. I say he installed a wrong grooved pulley on what originally is supposed to be a smooth pulley surface. you're correct in saying that the grooved pulley will eat up the smooth side of the belt.
@@mikegarcia5087 It's a Gates Kit for the Chrysler/Dodge vans that have problems with belts slipping off. It uses a double sided ribbed belt. My 2000 Caravan Sport belt slips off going through water puddles, car wash, potholes, and snow drifts etc.
It all comes in a kit made by Gates, called a "correction kit"
Very helpful and thank you for posting this. Our local Dodge dealer could not find any replacement kits to fix the problem. Do you happen to have a parts number or source where it can be found? We have a '99 Grand Caravan and just this winter the serpentine belt has started slipping off (4th time now). Our mechanic has changed some pullies and the belt and it still keeps doing it. Is it possible it could be the positioning of the idler pully? Dodge service said there is a bracket that repositions that pully.
38379k is the gates kit. It will be the only thing that will work to fix the problem
Try napa
On the Dodge / Plymouth / Chrysler Mini Vans, the serpentine belt will hang over the edge of the tensioner pulley about 1/6 to 1/8 of an inch, causing not only excessive wear on the pulleys and the belt, but makes it more likely the belt will slip off after you hit a mud puddle or slushy snow. It doesn't matter how many standard idler pulleys, tensioner pulleys, and single side grooved serpentine belts are installed on your mini van, if they are the smoothe side pulleys and single side grooved belt, that problem will keep persisting until you install an after market system like Gates, Dayco, or Continental that have the grooved pulleys and double grooved belt. It's a known issue with these mini vans, yet Dodge / Chrysler / Plymouth refused to do an official recall.
I have a 91 new yorker & my dad has a 91 dodge caravan with the 3.3. We live in Oklahoma & get lots of rain but not much snow, we've never had this issue. I can see if the idler pulley bracket is bent & belt could run off the low side edge.
I have 2000 voyager 3.3l with an almost new tensioner pulley, replaced last year, 3rd time its been replaced before I realized its just a bad design. the belt ALWAYS rides close to the edge of the pulley and if it gets too slippery it just falls right off. Happened about four times last year during the snowy season. Im getting ready to do this replacement so it doesnt happen again.
Gates has produced the "correction kit" in concert with the OEM and they have sold hundreds of thousands.
need help 1990 grand voyager 3.3 l v6. le automatic woodie
Hi. please give me the detailed size of the belt.
DO ANYONE KNOW HOW? ??
can you replace the pulley only on the tensioner
yes you can
Yea they do fall off. It's fucking ridiculous.
And it doesn't have to be raining for them to do so.
It's so not safe. It's also costly and inconvenient. Chrysler is really starting to piss me off.
They should be absorbing this cost
I'm stuck again thanks to this fucking belt.
never had that happen have over 13 3.3 in my family 1990 to 2005 not one has done that I have the one of original first made 3.3's built may 1 1989....
Well you are lucky. It has happened to me twice. This is definitely a common problem.
Its been a problem for me on my 2000 3.3l for well over 7 years now. 3 new tensioners, countless new belts, still happened about 4 times last year during winter. If the belt gets slippery at all it just falls right off.
Replacing the belt doesn't make a difference. It still falls off. It's like waiting for lightning to strike you. Only you don't have to wait long.
You have to buy the "correction kit" from Gates. It includes a replacement pulley with a lip on it that does not allow the belt to slip off. Too bad the company did not do that to begin with.
I NEED TO TAKE OUT AN ALTERNATOR FOR A CHRYSLER 92 NEWYORKER
You have to unbolt the alternator, then you have to either turn it JUST right so it will fit between the backside of the engine and the firewall (what I did), or find a way you can lower it down to the ground. I recommend looping a bit of Paracord on it if you intend to lower it.
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Everybody is aware but I wasn't.. My belt did fall off by its self.
How in the world? I'm mad as hell. This is bullshit.