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  • čas přidán 25. 06. 2019
  • Ask This Old House home technology expert Ross Trethewey travels to Los Angeles to learn about innovations being made to automatic water shutoff valves
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    While automatic water shutoff valves have been around for quite some time, there are a number of different companies that are now modifying the units to make them smart devices.
    In this segment, Ross learned about the functions of a Flo by Moen [amzn.to/2IoUvZi] automatic water shutoff valve. During the discussion afterwards, Ross and Richard also talked about the Phyn [amzn.to/2WQPNaC] automatic water shutoff valve, which is a similar device in the smart automatic water shutoff valve space.
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Komentáře • 114

  • @johnroberts9560
    @johnroberts9560 Před 5 lety +5

    Hi TOH , I use about 20-30 gallons of water per shower , thanks Ross for this survey ! 👍😊🔨🔩🔧

  • @davidrosa9901
    @davidrosa9901 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video! I been researching for something just likes this! I want to add a water softener/filter system along with a rain water collective system along with the device and rachio!

  • @kCI251
    @kCI251 Před 4 lety +1

    I installed one recently and the app works great.

    • @shawoo
      @shawoo Před 3 lety +1

      What brand? Is there a monthly fee?

  • @TheSwampDaddy
    @TheSwampDaddy Před 4 lety +2

    How does this compare to Phyn Plus? Is there a particular smart analysis, monitoring and shutoff besides these two?

  • @mikerobinson4698
    @mikerobinson4698 Před 4 lety

    I was confused at seeing an above ground water line with the smart water valve installed. What's keeping that line from freezing and busting??? Was there more to that above water line that wasn't included in the video like how is that line protected from freezing? Is there a cover that goes over that line to protect the power line from getting wet?

  • @imthesquareroot6125
    @imthesquareroot6125 Před 5 lety +9

    It's a good idea that it closes slowly. That prevents water hammer against the valve.

    • @jban4457
      @jban4457 Před 2 lety

      I wouldn't care one bit about water-hammer if it's preventing a flood.

  • @RMSIN393
    @RMSIN393 Před 4 lety

    Is this something that would work in a home that has well water? would it get connected before or after the water pressure tank in that type of setup?

    • @coolafternoons8930
      @coolafternoons8930 Před 3 lety

      I think it would but keep in mind that your pump is controlled by the pressure probably between 40 and 50 pounds but you need that spread so your pump doesn’t constantly turn on/off but off enough where you don’t notice it

  • @jban4457
    @jban4457 Před 2 lety +1

    Can it detect a leaky sales pitch and shut it down too?

  • @AidanSkoyles
    @AidanSkoyles Před rokem +1

    this appears to have been discontinued already. great news for those who installed it.

  • @PhanoftheShow
    @PhanoftheShow Před rokem

    it’s so weird to see TOH on the west coast with sunshine ☀️ 😂

  • @JohnComeOnMan
    @JohnComeOnMan Před 5 lety +19

    This really comes across as an infomercial.

    • @MandoFettOG
      @MandoFettOG Před 5 lety +2

      It is

    • @jban4457
      @jban4457 Před 2 lety

      yes, it all went in one ear and out the other. It's a shame too, probably useful information in there somewhere.

  • @curiosity2314
    @curiosity2314 Před 5 lety +1

    Might be a commercial but interesting just the same.

  • @mobgma
    @mobgma Před 5 lety +3

    yes but is CSA approved for Canada?

  • @TheCraney15
    @TheCraney15 Před 4 lety

    Where do i buy?

  • @ejicon3099
    @ejicon3099 Před 5 lety +1

    I got super anxious and OCD from 5:40 to 6:14. That's 34 seconds of wasted water!!!! You don't need an app to tell you that.

  • @johnirwin1837
    @johnirwin1837 Před 5 lety +1

    I would like something like this for my RV. detect a water leak and immediately shut it off.

    • @aggiehort07
      @aggiehort07 Před 4 lety

      Does your rv have wifi and are you retired and live on the road in your Rv? Seems like a lot of money for an rv unless you live on the road. Unsolicited opinion .....dont mind me haha you'll have these on the internet lol

  • @weekendwarrior3420
    @weekendwarrior3420 Před rokem

    Does it need Internet?

  • @innovativedeewhy2758
    @innovativedeewhy2758 Před rokem

    When can I buy this product?

    • @TylerRing
      @TylerRing Před 6 měsíci

      Moen, Lowe's, Home Depot, Amazon. Google is free.

  • @Zefram0911
    @Zefram0911 Před 5 lety +2

    240 gallon a day goal.. in Africa, it's like 5 gallons.

    • @coolafternoons8930
      @coolafternoons8930 Před 3 lety

      Ya but pioneers move humanity forward. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

  • @Mr._Craig
    @Mr._Craig Před 5 lety +18

    This device is a novelty, full function requires internet connection and cloud based computing which can be shut down rendering your $500 investment into a cheap $5 manual water valve if the manufacturer's ends support, discontinues service or goes out of business.

    • @Mr._Craig
      @Mr._Craig Před 5 lety +4

      A better alternative would be locally hosted operating software on the valve itself which optionally can be accessed via the ip address of the device and in addition having the smart phone app as well.

    • @stifflers69mom1
      @stifflers69mom1 Před 5 lety +1

      Mr. Craig me no understand

    • @Guillotines_For_Globalists
      @Guillotines_For_Globalists Před 5 lety +2

      @@Mr._Craig None of these smart home devices really do that. Maybe the corporate stuff but not for the residential home owner. Always requires a connection to their servers first!

    • @carmp3fan
      @carmp3fan Před 5 lety +2

      Blaine Bugaski Sure they can. I do home automation where everything is at home. Sure, it’s advanced, but it’s possible.

    • @GuyWhoReviewsStuff
      @GuyWhoReviewsStuff Před 5 lety +3

      Can’t agree with this enough. Good example is skydrop rain controller. They were the leading smart sprinkler controller and now they are out of bussiness and talks about closing down the cloud service rendering you a very expensive manual sprinkler system.

  • @scotttovey
    @scotttovey Před 5 lety +5

    Am I the only one that noticed the use of a (not insulated for external use) wire plugged into that device outdoors?
    A few good downpours, and your power source will be fried.

    • @onecrazywheel
      @onecrazywheel Před 5 lety

      Yes and is it UL Listed? I'm a licensed electrician and would not want a low voltage cable plugged into outdoors. It should have a battery and be charged by the water's flow. 😎

    • @scotttovey
      @scotttovey Před 5 lety +1

      @@onecrazywheel
      I hadn't thought of the water flow as a power source.
      That's the way to eliminate the need for all cabling to the device.
      Great idea!

    • @richardwild-realtorwithace7837
      @richardwild-realtorwithace7837 Před 3 lety

      It has a tight fit into a rubber fitting its very tight I'd say water proof installed mine almost a week ago but not exposed to elements.

    • @TylerRing
      @TylerRing Před 6 měsíci

      as long as the outlet where it's plugged in is waterproof (In use cover) Moen says it can be installed outdoors.

    • @TylerRing
      @TylerRing Před 6 měsíci

      Yes@@onecrazywheel it is UL listed.

  • @adamguymon7096
    @adamguymon7096 Před 5 lety

    This is a cool thing. It would be nice to have a sensor at each of your fixtures and for example on your hot and cold pipes at each fixture there would be a shut off valve so for example let's say you don't want to physically turn the faucet on or off you could have free set temperatures and you could just say "Turn Kitchen Sink on" and the kitchen sink would go on and it would come on at a temperature you preset. The system could work with other types of faucets and devices this would be a good feature as well kind of like the Alexa DOT would work with the smart lights and smart plugs. you could even Alexa or your Google home to smart faucets so you can operate different actual faucets in your home you can even flush the toilet without being by the toilet it would even let you know if the toilet was plugged when you flushed it so you could get to it as quickly as possible plus it would let you know which toilet was having a problem or if you left the water on in a room.

  • @virgil3241
    @virgil3241 Před 5 lety

    I hauled water for my acreage for 11 years, and I had a 600 gallon water tank to fill my cistern, so Im aware how much water we used

  • @3fingerclay439
    @3fingerclay439 Před 8 měsíci

    3200

  • @ifoam
    @ifoam Před 5 lety +1

    How are these installed on slab foundation? All my piping is buried.

    • @scotttovey
      @scotttovey Před 5 lety +1

      You need to find where the feed pipe that comes up from the concrete into the house.
      I know that in older, pre 1960's houses, that the water meter is connected to it which makes it easy to find, so that's the first thing I would look for is a water meter inside the house.

    • @ifoam
      @ifoam Před 5 lety

      @@scotttovey Thanks for the reply. That makes sense. I know where the water meter is on the curb so I imagine that the pipe comes in on that side of the house. Do plumbers have equipment to easily locate this pipe? That side of the house would be perfect because I have an electrical outlet outside already.
      Although it might not be this product, a remote shutoff value could save a lot of money if tied to water sensors in the house. You gotta pay one way or another!

    • @sylphed78
      @sylphed78 Před 5 lety +1

      Look for your pressure regulator, that should be above ground. You install the valve after that.

    • @scotttovey
      @scotttovey Před 5 lety

      @@ifoam
      Plumbers should be able to locate the pipe.
      Does your house have a main shutoff valve for the water?
      It should, if not, someone really screwed that up. In any case, that would be the best location for the valve.

    • @ifoam
      @ifoam Před 5 lety

      @@scotttovey It does but it's out by the street. For electricity, the value would need to be closer. I already looked into max distance for those DC adapters.

  • @Machete21510
    @Machete21510 Před 5 lety +1

    Is there a demand for something so expensive like this? This problem has already been addressed and solved. This is a cool gadget but not very practical for the average home owner. You can clearly see the target market for this device is the home they went into to show this..

    • @jban4457
      @jban4457 Před 2 lety

      You hit it right on the nose, I wonder how many of THOSE homeowners are watching "smart valve" CZcams videos. lol.

  • @davem3325
    @davem3325 Před 5 lety +4

    Where are all the videos on full house builds?
    This use to be a good channel!

    • @TomCook1993
      @TomCook1993 Před 5 lety

      Dave M it still is.

    • @davem3325
      @davem3325 Před 5 lety

      @@TomCook1993 Hi tom, ok, the content thats here is good, im a big fan for years, but ive watched every video, but it seems that all the full house builds have dissapeared!
      there are only a few 30 second "Trailers" shown. How does a Aussie fan get to watch this old house full house builds? I miss them?

    • @saulgoodman2018
      @saulgoodman2018 Před 5 lety

      @@davem3325 Go to thisoldhouse.com

    • @davem3325
      @davem3325 Před 5 lety

      @@saulgoodman2018 Hi Treveor, Thaks for that, I have been to thier main website to watch the latest house builds, but I can only watch this on my Imac, in my work office, I want to watch on my LG 4K TV, but the web browser does not support the JW Player format that they use, YOutube on my LG TV Is where I would like to watch. I also try to get a subcription so I can watch older shows , but it only available for USA and Canadian viewers. Any IDeas? thanks

    • @saulgoodman2018
      @saulgoodman2018 Před 5 lety

      @@davem3325 The only way is maybe a set top box, if they have an app. Or with a chrome cast, just start it on your phone, then cast it to play on your TV.
      Or hook your PC up to your TV. That's what I do. I have my PC hooked up to my 32 inch TV.
      But trying to get it in Canada, I not too sure. I thing Chrome have some VPN extension, where it can look like you are coming from another country.
      But then you might have problems with some sites if you don't remember to turn off the VPN.
      I hate it when you can't watch shows from other countries.

  • @homeguardster
    @homeguardster Před 5 lety +8

    $449, yikes.

    • @saulgoodman2018
      @saulgoodman2018 Před 5 lety

      SO $450, or thousands in damages? I'd rather pay $450.

  • @infeltk
    @infeltk Před 5 lety +4

    Save water, waste electricity, wait for cyberattack :-)

    • @sapier
      @sapier Před 5 lety +2

      Can't imagine it using that much electricity, maybe about as much as a typical wifi security camera. as for cyberattack, worst that can happen is what? they close your water for a while? you can just unplug it and manually turn it back on.

    • @kCI251
      @kCI251 Před 4 lety

      More like, save water DAMAGE and a 20k insurance claim.

  • @gilber758
    @gilber758 Před 5 lety +1

    This is a freaking ad. Are you kidding me? Quit at 1:30 secs

  • @JohnGalt505
    @JohnGalt505 Před 5 lety

    Blatant product placement ad

  • @brandonbenjamin9452
    @brandonbenjamin9452 Před 5 lety +9

    Whoever this new kid is. He nods his head almost constantly. Very distracting

  • @johnames6430
    @johnames6430 Před 5 lety +1

    They should just title every segment with him "Nepotism"

  • @Snarkbar
    @Snarkbar Před 6 měsíci

    lolol @ California shaming random people for taking 10-minute showers instead of 3-minute showers. Meanwhile almond growers use billions of gallons...

  • @GillySqueeze
    @GillySqueeze Před 5 lety

    69 nice

  • @GrahamDIY
    @GrahamDIY Před 5 lety

    A solution looking for a problem....🙄

  • @andregliaschera4289
    @andregliaschera4289 Před 2 lety

    Price on this unit went from $500 to $767 in 2 months!!! Greedy basterds