New CMYK Features in GIMP 2.99.12 Explained
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- čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
- In this tutorial, I discuss all the new CMYK features that rolled out with GIMP 2.99.12 - the latest development release version of GIMP. I demonstrate the new soft proofing features, including the soft proofing icon at the bottom of the image canvas, plus show how GIMP can now open CMYK files and export to CMYK. While these new features are not full CMYK support, including editing in CMYK color space, they are a major milestone for GIMP offering CMYK compatible features and getting to full CMYK support.
0:00 - Intro & Resources
0:38 - Adding a CMYK Color Profile
2:56 - New Soft Proofing Toggle
5:19 - Add CMYK Soft Proofing Profiles to New Images
5:55 - Export Images with CMYK Color Profile
7:16 - Late Binding CMYK vs Early Binding CMYK
7:59 - Import Images with CMYK Color Profiles
8:55 - Color Tools Accurately Display CMYK Colors
9:55 - Final Thoughts
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Couple things to note: 1) Although these new CMYK features are great, I don't recommend using GIMP 2.99.12 for your workflow if working on professional projects as this is an unstable development versions and things tend to break. 2) Don't forget to uncheck "Export to CMYK" when exporting to JPEG or TIFF if you don't need it. If you don't uncheck it, your JPEGs will look darker and won't look the way you intended them to look on a digital display.
"The Circle is now complete", Mike....." When I left you, I was but the learner", ....now YOU are the Master! Thank you, Mike.
Hahaha!
Thanks for report this so quickly. GIMP is getting closer to the will of the community.
They are certainly trying to appease their users.
this is an excellent tutorial. I transitioned from Ps to Gimp, and your videos helped me. I love Gimp now. Thanks
Thanks! Glad to hear you're liking GIMP.
why did you transition?
I love it, I waited years for this coming to Gimp.
As have we all!
@@DaviesMediaDesign As someone that works doing print projects often, any CMYK update is very welcome. Even if many print jobs today are delivered and required just as a PDF/X-4 with Adobe RGB color profile, gazillions are yet required in CMYK (whatever the profile and specs asked for). It is great news, I'll be eager to know more improvements in the CMYK front.
Thanks so much for the video. Good news indeed.
Thanks for watching!
I dream of a full internal CMYK mode, and even a full Adobe RGB mode (maybe with the GEGL revamp?), if that's possible with the code base, but until then, an advance like this is *huge* . Definitely, it allows to work with a bunch of print jobs much more easily. Yep, we could already do this somehow, but there have been very important improvements, from what I watched. The soft proof workflow (actually, we could always do that in Photoshop, even while it has full modes, and some people preferred to do so) is indeed not rare: The very famous Clip Studio Paint, number one software used in the Japanese Manga comic industry, (if I am not wrong; a Japanese mangaka just told me it IS the thing all use...), indeed has the same limitation: It really only works internally in sRGB (in the case of Clip Studio, also only in 8bit mode, not 16bit neither 32bit), but you can set a "preview" with a file (but you have to remember each time to do so) so to work with soft proofing; previewing and working with that color profile (ie, Adobe RGB, a CMYK profile, etc). But in several matters, the CSP's implementation is worse from what I am seeing, as for example, the color you set in the color picker palette in CSP is pretty much still the internal sRGB. You just told us this is not the case (happily) in this Gimp development version.
Great news. Definitely a moment to be paying attention to Gimp steps!
Mikey, you are the boss. Thanks, bro.
Thanks for watching!
excellent. this is a great addition and step forward :O)
Indeed - very exciting stuff!
@@DaviesMediaDesign absolutely and you are a beacon of light for FLOSS projects and doing an awesome job, thank you for that continued support and community inclusion
Hey, I'm just starting to get into making soft and tNice tutorials 17 minute video helped a LOT MORE than those one hour long tutorials out
Thank You
Thanks
cant wait for when this is in the standard version of gimp
Finally!
Next up for CMYK handling: Inkscape!
How do I print the color profiles separately onto transparent sheets to burn on a screen?
Hi, I have the latest version 2.10.32 but don't have the icon button at the bottom right corner under the image !? Does it appears on certain conditions ?
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Hey, Michael, question: How much of an overlap is there between the content in your Udemy course and your DMD Premium Membership? If one gets the Udemy course is there still plenty of stuff at the DMD Premium Membership that makes it worth it and vice versa?
I would say so. You get access to multiple courses on DMD Premium (including my Darktable and WordPress courses), plus downloadable assets. You can cancel DMD Premium at any time.
Hi, love your channel and your videos on GIMP!!!!! I am looking to astrophotography edits using GIMP. In particular I have been trying to find "how to" on how to stack multiple images (aprox 350) edit them at the same time and then create a star trail image ... is this possible on GIMP? I would then want to put all those same (350) images into GIMP to create a star trail video, again is this also possible using GIMP?
If so do you have a videos of yours you can recommend I watch?
There's a free app that works with GIMP called SiriL for astrophotography. You may want to check that out. siril.org/
Is it possible to use GIMP to make dense transparencies for screen printing?
is the CMYK profile enough to make Gimp see the CMYK profile? Or do you need to embed another plugin?
anyone know how to fix it?
if you stop to think about it, there are no more excuses, you can work with cmyk using gimp just fine, even with inkscape, there is a similar configuration where you need to add the color profile to work with cmyk, but after that just open it the file in scribus and save in pdf x1-a, simple as that
Wow that great..
So GIMP is getting CMYK before Inkscape... Next huge step would be non-destructive editing but I doubt it will happen soon(It's planned for 3.2 in the roadmap).
Seems to be that way. GIMP could always achieve these milestones faster if more developers started jumping in to tackle them. All it took was one productive developer to jumpstart CMYK (known as the “Space Invasion” project internally).
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I wonder when they will add full support for CMYK. That would make my edits much better.
Could be sooner than we all think at this rate, but who knows.
@@DaviesMediaDesign I'm still waiting for GTK 3 and multi layer selection.
@@skelebro9999 join the club
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I'm happy this tutorial exists, but quite frankly, making the user do the work to finding a CMYK profile, something that is extremely common, is abysmal.
Um - it's free software... soo...
And now we need CMYK on Inkscape.
Maybe this will motivate them 😂
I am a photoshop user and recently switch to gimp and I am enjoying it modified it to maximum look like photoshop but one thing i really don't like abut gimp is ugly old 90s UI can they please change it little modern like Inkscape and krita did...
Please.. anybody.
this means that it would be a good idea to get a color corrected monitor ? what do u think ?
It is a good idea in any case, for any graphic work. Because if your work even in sRGB only, a good monitor which also is regularly color calibrated, will give your a more reliable workflow and colors, more accurate ones. Even in a "sRGB-only" workflow.
So, it is important, but not solely because you would be doing some stuff in CMYK or exporting in CMYK, or previewing it (or all of that).
But of course, if your work now involves CMYK due to needing to export so for a print shop or online print company (if it happens to require working with a CMYK profile), you will want to calibrate your monitor and hope that your monitor is at least decent in color (it's two different things the color range and general quality of the monitor, and if it is calibrated or not). Because if your monitor can't get certain range of colors, or is terribly calibrated, you will be seeing a very different image to what you expected once printed or even in another device/monitor. This is bad in both RGB screen-only workflows, and in RGB for print (there is such thing, in a way...) or CMYK workflows (btw, except in vector design stuff (but Gimp is a raster editor!), I would not recommend editing in CMYK, but just as a final export only, instead. It is very useful the soft proof, and for me it is important to do edits in CMYK, but only at the very end, very close to exporting time). The more accurate and reliable your colors on screen are, the less surprises once you see your work printed. Of course, if you work in RGB, and are gonna print on CMYK, that's where this CMYK soft-proof comes handy. But that preview is only a slight approximation to avoid BIG errors. It's very far from a 1:1 even in the best monitors, even calibrated with a colorimeter. Of course, in those, the situation is a lot more under control. It's never gonna be 1:1, as it's light based color vs pigment colors on paper, it even depends also on the type of paper, ink, etc. But the closer you get those two results (screen and printed), the easier your life will be in that matter.
So, is not that you would need a "color corrected monitor" as a single thing (well, it is correct to say so, but involves several things). While there are monitors that come with calibration by default, it is often not great, and anyway, monitors do degrade with time, and it's recommended to re calibrate them, be it weekly, every 15 days or monthly (I do the latter). It depends on how delicate is your work in color matters. There are indeed monitors that auto calibrate. These are not those that you usually say "calibrated". Calibrated means only that come with a calibration by default. The ones that auto calibrate (with the frequency that you establish) do have a calibration system inside, (like an internal colorimeter) and tend to cost 1.7k USD and more. For example, Eizo ColorEdge but the CG series. (I have the CS, much cheaper but require manual calibration).
You need a decent monitor. I have an Eizo (the best brand in the world including Apple, in color accuracy and other matters) but as I got an old one in a good offer (around 800 bucks). These days there are very good BENQ monitors that do the job pretty well at a "low" price and reach Adobe RGB color space (quite wider than sRGB) well (impressive for such prices). I recommend the Benq SW240 , very strongly, if you have the bucks. It is about 440 euros. Not ideal for video or animation (there's a higher resolution one for that in Benq), as for that u typically need higher resolution and better screen response (lower "ms" value). Also, I do work in design and illustration and don't need higher than 1920 x 1080 and 1920 x 1200. But some people is obsessed with them needing 1440p at least (in video editing, I can understand even going for 4k). Thing is, accurate color beyond 1080p becomes really pricey (maybe except in benq), and I care a lot more about good color than some pixels more for panels and menus. Of course, this level of things kind of requires getting a colorimeter, or could be a bit throwing cash to the trash. The colorimeter is a hardware device that measures your screen in a given time and adjusts the tones, gamma and other settings as needed so that you get accurate and reliable color. It saves those settings in a file in your computer, a profile which is what your monitor will use (until next calibration when it will start using a new file). Usually the desktop app included with the colorimeter allows you to adjust many things and set different profiles, etc. The colorimeter tends to cost around 150 and 250 USD /euros. i1Display Pro from X-Rite is the one I recommend the most (around the latter number in prices).
If that's too much money all together (440 + 250), my recommendation is at least a GOOD 100% sRGB monitor. You can work for CMYK export in those, too, just smaller color range than a 95-100% Adobe RGB compliant monitor (in the sRGB one, some colors won't be seen, even if they are on the file, or you produce them without knowing, as the monitor can't display them) . And a cheap but good sRGB monitor means it has: good contrast ratio, good uniformity, good response time (not the HZ. The 'ms' ), little or no backlight leaks, fine viewing angles, and decent black levels. All that involves typically being a ISP panel. Never a TN. A VA panel could be fine (usually great black levels and contrast ratio), but beware the ms value, that tends to be a problem in _some_ VAs. In general stay below 15ms if possible. And I still don't trust OLEDs for the burn-in problem. So, you can get just a cheap 100% sRGB and calibrate it by software. Fortunately, there's a free software (or it was last time I checked) called DisplayCAL that is absolutely wonderful. It needs IMO more expertise than your usual app included with a colorimeter, but it allows you to calibrate "by software" a monitor. It can't be the same, but it's MUCH better than doing nothing. If your workflow is sRGB-only, well, then most devices are using that color profile (or better, now.. P3), sRGB it's kindda a safe spot (but it is kind of poor in color). Yet still I'd calibrate it. Even if only by software (need to study that DisplayCAL software ... DEEPLY). You can get a relatively cheap 100% sRGB monitor and work in CMYK projects, calibrate the monitor, and do any project you want. You will have less issues and more possibilities the better your monitor is (including color range, contrast ratio, etc), and the better it is calibrated. But I worked at a company doing all its graphic design with a very subpar mainstream monitor... during years! So, everything is doable. But PERHAPS (or maybe not) A or B project will have problems that you will need to solve if what you see is not what is seen in other screen or printed (by a big difference, I mean. As it will never be the same).
All in all, once you get in the good brands, a good sRGB monitor (when I say this I ONLY refer to a 100% sRGB monitor. Or 95% as minimum), today, is much better than some years ago and even if DisplayCAL is too complex for you, some visual tuning might give you a not too bad experience. But again, it depends. This would be not recommended for professional work. BTW, for me the good brands are EIZO, Benq and NEC (the NEC Pro range, that is. Spectraview in Europe, I think). A Dell Ultrasharp will do the work at low cost if you get one of the cheapest ranks (at higher than 300, better go for the best brands). And if the money is super super short... An LG, Dell or BENQ that at least "says" to support 100% sRGB would be my choice.
One thing... while for color accuracy is better mid intensity of brightness, I have found that for our eyesight, the only thing sensible is minimum brightness (unless you find it difficult to read/view it so, or that whatever the mainstream monitor gets really bad at low); and it is still possible to calibrate it at very low brightness (at least in good monitors) and get a decent calibration result. Or 10% brightness as much. But to each his/her own.
EDIT: the huge wall of text is because when you asked if having these CMYK features would require a "color corrected monitor", it sounded to me that you might not be aware at least of some of these things.
TLDR; yes
As far as I know, the CMYK color scheme refers to printing on paper, and the RGB scheme is what we see on the screen, whether on a computer, tablet or cell phone. Okay, we can mimic the CMYK scheme on a screen, but it will never look like it does on paper. In my opinion, this fetish that graphics software MUST work with CMYK is just that, a fetish.
Dang, still no gimp 3.0??
Could be here as soon as next year from what I hear thanks in part to these CMYK updates, which helped spur the team to make other updates throughout GIMP.
And yet you still can't draw a circle with gimp 🤣🤪🤡 I'll stick to Photoshop.
What the hell are you talking about? Use the Ellipse Select Tool, and then Edit > Stroke Selection... - This is how they prefer to do it, with selections or paths.
@@rubisdrake that’s drawing a circle, it lags when using wacom tablets
You can draw a circle and different shapes. It is a hidden feature under Edit/Preferences/Interface/Icon/Theme/Control M/Filters/Render/Gfig.
@@louwramarais5196"hidden" sorry, still not using crapware.