This is definitely not the only NW5 left. Rare bird indeed but Mass Central has owned and operated one since 1980. Having said that, this was beautiful restoration of a unique engine. Well done!
Definitely NOT the last one left, I know of 2 more. Mass Central's (ex SOU) and CRGX 61 in Parrish Florida. Former FSUD 2. Also there are two of the succeeding model around the rs1325.
according to wikipedia, this is the only one in fully restored condition. there's another still in operation in Massachusetts and one on static display in Florida. as for the NW3, surprisingly there were 2 in existence at the start of 2018, one in operating condition and the other on static display, but due to the remote location of the operating unit transportation costs were viewed as too high and it was scrapped.
@@AlcochaserAlso, the shell of an old Burlington Northern NW5 is sitting on top of a container somewhere in Council Bluffs, Iowa. It's seen better days but it's not scrapped..... yet.
Just discovered this channel. It really seems this place is like the Tank Museum but for trains, I don't have the financial capability to donate, but thank you very much for supporting the internet future of museums!
There is a short film on You Tube that promoted tourism to Alexandria, Minnesota in the early 1950s. The film is titled: " Alexandria - Minnesota's Vacationland - Downtown & Community Info ". There is footage of an NW5, leading a local train of Pullman Green heavyweights, that is stopping at the Alexandria Great Northern depot.
I am an active member of The Southern Michigan Railroad Museum in Clinton, Michigan and must say that its awesome to see what the LSRM is doing with restoring these fine pieces of Railroading history!! I might have to get out that way sometime and put the skills i've learned within the Railroading world to more good use, By the way i love the old SOO Line Diesel in the background!!!
Great video. But your presentation could use a bit of fact checking. I know of 2 more. Mass Central's (ex SOU) and CRGX 61 in Parrish Florida. Former FSUD 2. Also. These were not intended for branchline service. Instead, they were marketed for passenger terminal switchers. The steam heat was to keep coaches warm when the road power was serviced. (both the NW3,NW5).. However it was GN itself that decided they would be good for branchlines, not EMD. EMD wasn't interested at all in the Roadswitcher concept. Witness that after the NW5 ceased production, EMD made their concept of a Branchline loco. the EMD BL2.. an F unit modified with a bit better rear view. The RS1325 was intended to be a passenger terminal switcher as well. But again, C&IM ordered them for the branchline role, a role they were not really marketed for. Many many railroads ordered things from EMD for roles they were never marketed for.
Actually, there is another NW-5 (EX-CRGX #61) at Parrish, FL! Despite being inoperable, it has been put on a track with multiple railcars behind it, the very last railcar being a caboose.
Had one of these around Great Falls, MT running switching and short haul operations up till shortly after the BN/SF "merger". Which it was then promptly scraped. It was a sad day that day for all the workers. Old Joe was the nick name it got, and even got to drive it as a kid in the 90s. Funny fact about it was they had taken out the steam generator and installed a toilet at some point in it's life.
When I was young kid growing up in Portland, Oregon burning time waiting for the Portland Rose Festival starlight parade to start on a sunny Saturday night. Our family would get a spot on the Broadway bridge over the Union Station, train station. Well their is a stairway coming off the bridge going to a sidewalk next to the train tracks in Union Station which also served as a switching yard for the Portland Traction Company. Well the engineer of a NW-2 and crew ask me if I wanted to ride along in the cab as they where switching box cars that night well , yes I said so waiting for the parade to start which was about 2 hours , I rode along in the cab of that switch engine. I’ve never forgotten that experience.
Wonderful overview of a cool old locomotive. The shortline where I did my training (Ontario Southland Railway) has an NW2 built in 1947. They don't use it much anymore but it is sitting on a siding at the shop. The OSR also has some of the last F units in revenue service. They have a couple ex-VIA Rail FP-9ARMs
Your talking about my uncle stupidly scrapping it... yup that's my uncle. He actually scrapped 3 locomotives with that nw5. There was an ex us army 80 tonner and a pacific lumber company 80 tonner
Tarheel RRds Saw #2100 sitting in Mass Centrals South Barre yard just yesterday. It’s been sidelined for their newer GP38-2’s. Heard rumors they may fix it up some day.
Visited June 9th. Very nice! Rode the train, photographed the NW5 and Milwaukee Road 10200. I liked the little Soo Line SW1 as well, and your ex-NP GP9. It made for a nice trip! Thank you.
there is one in Florida confirmed to be one of the five or six ex-Pere Marquette Railroad engines left. The one there is the NW5 engine that was the marshaling engine at the now demolished Fort Street Union Depot in Detroit. It is in the process of fund gathering for restoration.
No its not the only one there is a NW5 working in a large plant/mill in Pennsylvania right across the Delaware river from New Jersey google it its there
I Love that Locomotive NW5 GREAT NORTHERN a lot. I have a ALCO RS1 GREAT NORTHERN and a GP9 bad all those RailRoads went to BN and SP&S. I have all 3 ALCO C855A-B-A set UP scrap them all only 3 ever been made, I true would like to see one come back again. I have a lot of videos on them P.WACO CZcams
The Oregon Pacific railroad had one of these (ex Burlington Northern/Great Northern), but it had to be scrapped after being attacked by metal thieves in the company's Milwaukie, Oregon yard 🙁
While it might be somehow satisfying to own one there'd be no point in having it. You couldn't operate it anywhere but on private trackage and not anywhere else without being a federally-licensed locomotive engineer. And good luck trying to get the insurance.
EMD, yes; Electric Motor Division, no - no such thing. Founded as Electro-Motive Engineering Corporation in the early 1920s, soon changed to Electro-Motive Company. GM acquired Winton Engine Company in 1930 and Electro-Motive Company soon after, then renaming the latter Electro-Motive Corp (EMC). Winton, EMC and portions of Cleveland Diesel Division were combined into Electro-Motive Division (EMD) in 1941. GM sold the company in 2005. It is now called Electro-Motive Diesel, Inc., still EMD, and is now owned under the Progress Rail division by Caterpillar.
The locomotive does not have a 12 cylinder diesel "motor". There is no such thing as an internal combustion "motor". The proper nomenclature is "engine" or "prime mover". There are electric motors, hydraulic motors, and air motors - but no diesel or gasoline "motors".
I’ve never understood why Alco sold the comparable RS1 like hotcakes, while EMD sold relatively few 1000hp roadswitchers. PS: We could have done without the China Virus PSA.
This is definitely not the only NW5 left. Rare bird indeed but Mass Central has owned and operated one since 1980. Having said that, this was beautiful restoration of a unique engine. Well done!
Definitely NOT the last one left, I know of 2 more. Mass Central's (ex SOU) and CRGX 61 in Parrish Florida. Former FSUD 2. Also there are two of the succeeding model around the rs1325.
according to wikipedia, this is the only one in fully restored condition. there's another still in operation in Massachusetts and one on static display in Florida.
as for the NW3, surprisingly there were 2 in existence at the start of 2018, one in operating condition and the other on static display, but due to the remote location of the operating unit transportation costs were viewed as too high and it was scrapped.
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@@AlcochaserAlso, the shell of an old Burlington Northern NW5 is sitting on top of a container somewhere in Council Bluffs, Iowa. It's seen better days but it's not scrapped..... yet.
Mass central is just built different
Just discovered this channel. It really seems this place is like the Tank Museum but for trains, I don't have the financial capability to donate, but thank you very much for supporting the internet future of museums!
There is a short film on You Tube that promoted tourism to Alexandria, Minnesota in the early 1950s. The film is titled: " Alexandria - Minnesota's Vacationland - Downtown & Community Info ". There is footage of an NW5, leading a local train of Pullman Green heavyweights, that is stopping at the Alexandria Great Northern depot.
One is still rusting away in Parrish, FL at the Florida Railroad Museum, former Fort Street Union Depot engine from Detroit.
I am an active member of The Southern Michigan Railroad Museum in Clinton, Michigan and must say that its awesome to see what the LSRM is doing with restoring these fine pieces of Railroading history!! I might have to get out that way sometime and put the skills i've learned within the Railroading world to more good use, By the way i love the old SOO Line Diesel in the background!!!
There's an NW5 at the Florida Railroad Museum. Former Detroit Terminal Railroad.
Great video. But your presentation could use a bit of fact checking. I know of 2 more. Mass Central's (ex SOU) and CRGX 61 in Parrish Florida. Former FSUD 2. Also. These were not intended for branchline service. Instead, they were marketed for passenger terminal switchers. The steam heat was to keep coaches warm when the road power was serviced. (both the NW3,NW5).. However it was GN itself that decided they would be good for branchlines, not EMD. EMD wasn't interested at all in the Roadswitcher concept. Witness that after the NW5 ceased production, EMD made their concept of a Branchline loco. the EMD BL2.. an F unit modified with a bit better rear view. The RS1325 was intended to be a passenger terminal switcher as well. But again, C&IM ordered them for the branchline role, a role they were not really marketed for. Many many railroads ordered things from EMD for roles they were never marketed for.
Actually, there is another NW-5 (EX-CRGX #61) at Parrish, FL! Despite being inoperable, it has been put on a track with multiple railcars behind it, the very last railcar being a caboose.
Had one of these around Great Falls, MT running switching and short haul operations up till shortly after the BN/SF "merger". Which it was then promptly scraped. It was a sad day that day for all the workers. Old Joe was the nick name it got, and even got to drive it as a kid in the 90s. Funny fact about it was they had taken out the steam generator and installed a toilet at some point in it's life.
The railroad I worked for in Florida has one on display and has been there since I was born it’s former fort street union depot no.2
Another great video. My kudos to all who made this video. Thank you very much. Be safe and healthy please.
The engineers stand on the 192 is a nice upgrade from what it would have had when it was new.
It’s a great diesel engine in your collection. Along with the other locomotives and railroad equipment.
Best looking locomotive there is.
Beautiful restoration…but there is an NW-5 still in service on the MassCentral Railroad. I believe it is the only one in regular freight service.
When I was young kid growing up in Portland, Oregon burning time waiting for the Portland Rose Festival starlight parade to start on a sunny Saturday night. Our family would get a spot on the Broadway bridge over the Union Station, train station. Well their is a stairway coming off the bridge going to a sidewalk next to the train tracks in Union Station which also served as a switching yard for the Portland Traction Company. Well the engineer of a NW-2 and crew ask me if I wanted to ride along in the cab as they where switching box cars that night well , yes I said so waiting for the parade to start which was about 2 hours , I rode along in the cab of that switch engine. I’ve never forgotten that experience.
I haven't seen this before. I grew up in Breckenridge MN, and remember that engine.
Very nice microphone! Very exciting!
Wonderful overview of a cool old locomotive. The shortline where I did my training (Ontario Southland Railway) has an NW2 built in 1947. They don't use it much anymore but it is sitting on a siding at the shop. The OSR also has some of the last F units in revenue service. They have a couple ex-VIA Rail FP-9ARMs
Clinchfield bought a former GN NW3.
I photoed it in Erwin , Tn deadline.
1979.
(next to a CRR F7A, the last F7 in grey/yellow.
Thank you
There used to be one in Portland Oregon but it was scrapped. It used to be owned by the Oregon pacific.
Your talking about my uncle stupidly scrapping it... yup that's my uncle. He actually scrapped 3 locomotives with that nw5. There was an ex us army 80 tonner and a pacific lumber company 80 tonner
@@hamiltonsullivan6563 was it GN 189?
@@itmcbhpbgf.6374 yup
Southern Ry NW5 still exist on the Mass Central RR 2100 as April 26 2020
Tarheel RRds Saw #2100 sitting in Mass Centrals South Barre yard just yesterday. It’s been sidelined for their newer GP38-2’s. Heard rumors they may fix it up some day.
At least it's somewhere safe.
There is a video of mass central nw5 operating in 2020
Ken, the Hustle Muscle is an SD 45 which only has 3,600 HP.
Hope to visit your museum in June.
Visited June 9th. Very nice! Rode the train, photographed the NW5 and Milwaukee Road 10200. I liked the little Soo Line SW1 as well, and your ex-NP GP9. It made for a nice trip! Thank you.
Good morning to all from SE Louisiana 17 Jan 22.
COOL LOCOMOTIVE, GREAT INFO, THANKS FOR SHARING!
Actually, there is a second NW5 in existence, located at the Florida Railroad Museum in Parrish, FL.
i model Great Northern so this rather helpful
I hate to correct you, however the BN was formed in the 70's not 1990.
there is one in Florida confirmed to be one of the five or six ex-Pere Marquette Railroad engines left. The one there is the NW5 engine that was the marshaling engine at the now demolished Fort Street Union Depot in Detroit. It is in the process of fund gathering for restoration.
Great video thank you ❤
GREAT TOUR GUIDE AND GREAT ADVICE...THANKS
There are actually two other News still around, and they both run.
Wow, Gene Roddenberry is still alive!😲
I have a few photos of one operating on the Dakota Division in the late 1960's
My grandma,s dad owned the company
She’s a beaut. 👍
This Loco is out if my area.
Kalispell, Montana.
Now we need to hear the song of the 12 cylinder roots blown EMD 567. Thank you Mr Kettering., Edit box, Add a comment....
No its not the only one there is a NW5 working in a large plant/mill in Pennsylvania right across the Delaware river from New Jersey google it its there
The one in Morrisville, Pennsylvania was an NW3, ex-Great Northern 179. Sadly, she was scrapped in November 2018.
There's also MassCental 2100. An Ex-Southern NW5. I guess 2100 is the last NW5 still in revenue service.
It ought to be preserved
I Love that Locomotive NW5 GREAT NORTHERN a lot. I have a ALCO RS1 GREAT NORTHERN and a GP9 bad all those RailRoads went to BN and SP&S. I have all 3 ALCO C855A-B-A set UP scrap them all only 3 ever been made, I true would like to see one come back again. I have a lot of videos on them P.WACO CZcams
It should have been rebuilt as older emd switchers before 1957 had drum control stands
Ken keeps saying 193, but the engine is numbered 192? For example, right here at 3:37
Error at 3:38. He says the 193 when the loco is 192.😉
Whatever happened to the "NW 4"?
Am I missing something here ?
This is not the only one there is a couple including a inoperable one in Florida
I didn't know that SD45s were 4,000 horsepower. I always thought they were 3,600 HP.
Esto es lo máximo lástima en mi país no aya buen ferrocarril
The SD45 did not reach 4,000 hp - ever. It was rated at 3200-3600 hp.
must of had after-covid.........
Second. Great videos.
The Oregon Pacific railroad had one of these (ex Burlington Northern/Great Northern), but it had to be scrapped after being attacked by metal thieves in the company's Milwaukie, Oregon yard 🙁
SD45's are rated at 3600 horsepower, not 4000.
Do you have any SW9s? And what's the story with those
Forgot to mention the transition handle lol
the original stand would be a pull out knob.
The stand has been replaced
If people sometimes own Pullman cars, why don't you hear of them owning and restoring switchers?
While it might be somehow satisfying to own one there'd be no point in having it. You couldn't operate it anywhere but on private trackage and not anywhere else without being a federally-licensed locomotive engineer. And good luck trying to get the insurance.
it was 1970
Is there any Center cabs trains
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It's EMD not EMC. Electric Motor Division.
EMD, yes; Electric Motor Division, no - no such thing. Founded as Electro-Motive Engineering Corporation in the early 1920s, soon changed to Electro-Motive Company. GM acquired Winton Engine Company in 1930 and Electro-Motive Company soon after, then renaming the latter Electro-Motive Corp (EMC). Winton, EMC and portions of Cleveland Diesel Division were combined into Electro-Motive Division (EMD) in 1941. GM sold the company in 2005. It is now called Electro-Motive Diesel, Inc., still EMD, and is now owned under the Progress Rail division by Caterpillar.
Wrong ! Mass central n w 5 #2100 still in road service ! 🤔🇱🇷🇮🇪🦉Boston wise guy
The locomotive does not have a 12 cylinder diesel "motor". There is no such thing as an internal combustion "motor". The proper nomenclature is "engine" or "prime mover". There are electric motors, hydraulic motors, and air motors - but no diesel or gasoline "motors".
I’ve never understood why Alco sold the comparable RS1 like hotcakes, while EMD sold relatively few 1000hp roadswitchers.
PS: We could have done without the China Virus PSA.
First!
Congrats. I love to be first on these videos! :)
Yup me too especially with my local railroad museum.