Scottie & RJ have a BEEFY history
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- čas přidán 11. 01. 2024
- 5 years before they became teammates in Toronto, RJ Barrett and Scottie Barnes were two of the most decorated high school basketball players of all time. In fact, RJ Barrett played his final high school game ever against Scottie Barnes, and the results were not what you might expect.
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Let's Paint the picture. This is RJ Barrett, a Canadian superhero who was a senior at Montverde, committed to play at Duke, son of Canadian basketball royalty Rowan Barrett, the American Family Insurance ALL-USA Player of the Year, Naismith Player of the Year, Gatorade player of the Year and Morgan Wootten Player of the Year. He... had a big resume.
He was the number 1 ranked player in the nation, playing for the number 1 ranked team in the nation, flanked by a talented backcourt duo of Michael Devoe and Andrew Nembhard. RJ's Montverde team was STACKED - Head coach Kevin Boyle who'd coached the Eagles with players like Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid opined that the 17-18 Montverde Eagles might be his most talented team.. ever.
On the other hand, you had Scottie Barnes & Vernon Carey leading the University School - a team which started out the season unranked but had risen to third throughout a dominant campaign by Barnes & Carey and managed to end the year ranked third.
Scottie's Sharks had beaten #2 ranked OAK Hill while Barrett'S Eagles had bested Findlay Prep to set up an ALL-FLORIDA National Championship. If people didn't know who Scottie was to start the year, they were about to find out.
The game started close but by halftime an Andrew Nembhard layup pushed it to 35-26. Barnes started out the third quarter by hitting a corner 3. As Raptor fans today know, Scottie Barnes is known for dominant second halfs, and he definetly wasn't about to let his team lose. On the very next play, Barrett shown some stage presence by hitting a 3 of his own. Not to be bested, Barnes went down the other end and went up for a layup. He came down awkwardly as he came down on a teammates foot but ever the warrior and fighter... Barnes stayed in the game.
He didn't quit, but with Barnes now favoring his ankle, and the score 31-38, the Eagles sensed blood. Closing the third quarter, the score had ballooned to 41-59 before Scottie found Carey for a wide open 3 after drawing a triple team.
The fourth quarter was more of the same but Scottie didn't go down without a technical and a few choice words for Barrett, who ended his high school career with a National Championship to complete a storied prep career which already included a Gold Medal in the U-17 FIBA Championship with Canada.
The commentators who were clearly familiar with both players spent most of the fourth quarter commending Barnes and painting a bright picture of his future.
Barrett was the better player on the better team that day - and before Zion Williamson and Ja Morant blew up, he was the projected number 1 pick in the following year's draft. Maple Mamba had won.
And it was Barnes who transfered to Montverde to effectively replace RJ's vacant spot in the front court 2 years later for the Eagles when he went on to team with Cade Cunningham to form what many call the greatest high school team of all time.
Barnes and Barrett would both go on to have impressive collegiate careers at Duke and FLorida State University in 2018 and 2020 respectively, and both would go on to be top 5 picks in the NBA- Barnes going fourth to the Raptors and RJ going third to the Knicks.
Over the years they've spent time guarding each other, and RJ even had a HUGE buzzer beating dunk over Scottie's Raptors less than a year ago to send the Knicks to overtime.
A year later, they're teammates for RJ's hometown Toronto Raptors after the Raptors traded Scottie's best friend on the team OG Anunoby. Scottie for his part doesn't quite seem to be completely over it.
There's a concept that great players can sharpen each other. 2 FORMER McDonald's All Americans, Gold medalists, prep school legends, both of whom have taken their share of media backlash, both have had highs and lows. RJ Barrett was seen by many Knicks fans as a bust - and Scottie Barnes after winning Rookie of the Year and becoming a media darling spent most of the 2022-2023 season being the whipping boy for a disappointing season in Toronto. They both have a lot to prove. AND alongside 24-year-old Immanuel Quickley, the trio could be the building blocks for the Raptors next championship.
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The quality! My God! The sheer QUALITY!
Bravo sensei! 🙌
Thank you kindly!
it's great, you gotta clean up those names a little though lol. Bogan was immersion breaking.
A lot of rj vs Scottie in the comments but just know they are both dogs that play for each other. When rj dropped 40 against gsw he gave the credit to Scottie for guarding Steph. These are grown men now this ain’t hs no more they both tryna win something. Maybe root for both.
Great comment my ninja. 😁
Well said!
as a knicks fan i am very happy for both teams. i was never much of a raptors fans nor an rj barrett fan but it is great seeing how grateful and welcoming both fan bases have been to each other
Both DAWGS from the jump… what more can you ask for? That type of mentality is contagious. We’re stepping in the right direction with this move. Great video… just subbed✅✅✅
Just so everyone knows RJ is 2 years older than Scottie, so Scottie was a sophomore in RJs last HS game
Scottie is 22 RJ is 23
They are a year apart lol
He was a junior in Scottie’s last HS game*
Rj’s*
Awesome video thank you for this
You missed the on going tension in nba when RJ dunked all over scottie last season after he came at RJs teammate grimes saying "you not him" lmao 😅
No that's just flat out wrong.
If you watched the game you would know that Scottie said that in Overtime.
RJ dunk happened at the end of the 4th quarter.
Also it was a response to Grimes using his elbow to push Siakam backwards and trying to mean mug him.
That's when Scottie got in his face to tell 'he's not him'.
Scottie was right. How's a nobody shoving a 2x All-star, 2x All-NBA player in Siakam, like he's a somebody.
Also Scottie was trolling & taunting the Knicks crowd in that 4th quarter.
RJ did dunk on Scottie, but Scottie kept the same energy in Overtime and made winning plays to win the game.
Grimes situation happened after, so unrelated to RJ.
RJ you could say got Scottie for him taunting the crowd, not for what Grimes did.
Scottie unlike Grimes is a somebody. Scottie was an elite prospect & winner at every level.
In NBA was a ROTY winner, now he's playing at an All-star level averaging efficient 20-9-6.
Grimes is a bench player now.
@@MRBp2024 I’m not reading all that buddy , too emotional all I read was I’m wrong and I’m not.
He told Grimes you’re not him after grimes SUFFOCATING defense - in an overtime game and NOT ONLY did RJ thunderously respond a few plays later with the JAM
But GRIMES TORCHED his team and every other in the rookie vs sophomore game after that
@@jovictor9064 who won that game?
@@handdownmandown4567 that doesn’t change my point of me adding to the RJ Barnes beef missed to mention here .
@@MRBp2024 yo barnes ia a fkn sack
I love the duo we have with these guys!
Wonderfully made video. This deserves to be featured in Open Gym.
Awesome video, stay with it bro you’ve got a talent and the voice for it
I appreciate that!
excellent narration
Thank you 🙏🙏
This is some of your best work! Great deep dive.
Wow now they’re both on the same team! Lol look at timing
123k views 🤯
Insane congrats Rob!
Absolutely love this, thank you
Nice video!!
That was cinematic. Big fan. Also a big fan of Chev. Would love for y’all to collaborate but I know you guys literally don’t mess with each other. Y’all both passionate. The city needs y’all together lol 😂
Also to add one more thing, it takes real talent and passion to make a great and insightful show flawlessly.
Totally not against it, nor am I for it. I've moved on tbh.
Pause at the beefy in caps
Are you 9 years old?
Not a Raptor fan….but RJ & Scottie is definitely creating buzz
This was cool!
Great video! Loved learning about the history between Scottie and RJ! 😁
RJ ,should be Captain of Raptor!
Leader not S....please!
Wtf is wrong with this fanbase man.
Canadian and NY basketball legend : Rowan Barrett
Bruh. I immediately thought of their HS matchups when RJ got traded to toronto!
very good work keep it coming
Why u got rj looking crazy in the thumbnail though
As a Knicks fan, I am a combination of sad watching RJ and IQ leaving, but happy that they are going to play for a great fanbase, and that they are doing great currently. I expect these Raptors to have a breakout season in 2025.
🤦♂️ shut up. Fake knick fan
Vernon Carrey was the most hyped player on that NSU team that year Scottie was a robin to him
Best vid yet 👌👌👌
u cant see zay flowers is on U school bro dam
Chino hills ball brothers over that monte verde team 🤷🏽 they were on a whole different level that year
Scottie vibes back then were unreal. Love to see it and hoping to get more of it this year
This is a good thing. For raptors future
THATS WHY SCOTTIE WAS HATING IN RJS FIRST GAME IN TORONTO 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏿♂️ YOU COULD TELL RJ BE WIDE OPEN SCOTTIE WOULD LOOK AND PASS IT TO GARY TRENT 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏿♂️
Keep killing it Rob! Probably my favourite video to date. Go Raptors!
Montverde really is an nba breeding ground
Unlike Sierra Canyon
a BEEFY history.. do you know what beef means?
Beefy can mean substantial, large. It can also mean controversial or full of animosity. It can be used to describe a soup or stew.
It can also be used how you and maybe a lot of 12 year old children use it. Words are complicated.
If I say "right" that can be used to describe correctness OR politics. Words can mean more than 1 thing.
@@pensarebasketball But you are obviously making it sound there is a huge animosity between the two.
Love it. As a kid playing any sport sometimes it wasn't my school vs. whatever school, it was me vs. that guy. If you could have taken some of those rival players and put them on our team it would have a hell of a move. Who knows their game better than a rival?
really awesome vid well narrated and scripted, love knowing about Pendance too! Might try and make it out with my gf
Super cool 😎😎. Reach out via pensarefilms@gmail.com if you need some film recos. Passes are on sale but individual tix go on sale Jan 27th
Paaaaauuuuuse
pause
Barnes’ face is 70% lips
Beefy history still crazy
Beast mode. Thanks again Rob!!
Love your short videos but I have a request. Either no music or back way off on the volume. Maybe it's because I'm older but I find background music while someone is talking over it To be a huge distraction. Thanks anyways and I hope your next short is easier to listen to 😊
Thats cool that they faced off against each other. I had no idea.
So cool that we have Ken and Ryu on the same team now!
Rj been cooking hem he’s hole career now he about to take he’s job too 🥶🥶🥶
😂 chill
They don’t even play the same position lmao
Not a Raptor die-hard but this is a really good piece o' work 👏🏾
And now ulyall on the same team lol. Also the knicks are going to be mad they traded him
Great find. Who would have thought they be playing together ?
Change the title. Please and thank you
Nah, we good
RJ is way better
Love these short form vids Rob, really highlights your creative abilities and story telling abilities
RJ and Barnes are great players amazing video
Sus title
Beefy doesn't mean BEEF, it means substantial. It's a double entendre
Ouuui some fire here. An now on the same team omg. Well we'll now we here 2024 . With a lil of I.q in the mix oh my
0:34 you sure picked the best picture of RJ 😂
To see them so young being so competitive. We are blessed to have such talent. I hope they realize their potential together and kick some ass ❤
Rj might be the KD to Scottie’s Westbrook
All they need is a PG. RJ and Scottie is TUUFFFFF!!!
Quickly is a beast
I hate Ben simmons
Great Video Rob as always. Loved it. Thank You.
Scottie is him and RJ also back home, if we move Siakam before deadline for some good pieces we are going far again give it a year or two and come back to this comment and oh yeah don’t forget 2019 champions !!! #raptors
Great Video Rob, Keep up the good job!! 👍🏾
i get why but i think the choice of words for the title of this video is a bit disappointing
It was very chippy. Anyway the point of using the word beefy instead of beef is to suggest they have a big history.
As in 'substantial'.. lot of 'beef' on the bones. They go back.
Not really 🧐
Videos like this are great because it showed a history of not only these 2 players but others as well before they made it to the NBA. Don't be so quick to knock a video just because of the title but you are free to your opinion and I respect it 🤝💪
@@pensarebasketball it kinda came across as click baity (particularly w the all caps)... maybe i misinterpreted the intent but it was dissappointing to me because to me youre above that. ur one of the only channels i follow regularly because u dont rely on sensationalism. love the no frills thoughtful perspective you offer, love your conviction and sense of individualism. anyway it was a terrific and informative video, appreciate all the work that u do
they both mid
If you dont watch basketball then sure
I thought they were like enemies or something. They were just rivals.
No way y’all think rj is better than Scottie after a couple games 🤣🤣
Let us pray no one thinks that
w vid
Canada best player's!
Raptor need to have Canada player's!
RJ is looking more of a no 1 option compared to Barnes.
Come on now.
@@pensarebasketballRJ is only a year older and dropped 37 as a Raptor, more than Scottie ever has. RJ was also younger than Scottie is now when he dropped his career high of 46. All he needs to do it stay consistent. 😤
@@vraiking this fan base is weird man. By your definition Charlie V and T-Ross were better youth prospects than Jokic.
I think he means number 1 scoring option, still very arguable but he didn’t say anything about better youth prospect.
@@vraiking Let me guess, you think Derozan is actually a great player for us, when in fact he's terrible and shouldn't be on the court. It's not only about the scoring.
Masterfully done in every aspect, major props to you Rob.
I love the chemistry I'm seeing between these two young guys, they are really finding eachother out there and playing some great basketball. Very excited for the future! Go Raps!
Awesome video rob! This sound ratio of voice to music is way better! I like the story telling .
Awesome bro 💯 i didn’t know the full history. Having two top of their class talents on our squad shows our management still got it
Barnes followed by RJ and IG are lookimg like a solid young core in the nba. They will be great,l.. exciting to see
Great video Rob! Exciting context.
Being a Knicks fan, I must admit I was extremely happy that RJ Barrett is gone. A #3 pick is supposed to be a franchise changer. He's not. If he were a 30th pick or 2nd round then he'd be fine. OG gives the Knicks toughness, 3pt shooting and most of all DEFENSE.
Seeing how RJ played with Toronto do you think he was put in the best position to succeed in NY. Basically it was night & day over night
@mrking1785 tbh everyone isn't made to play in NY. Many players have came to NY and not done well, but succeeded elsewhere.
@@glennw7118 what about RJ game did you think he wasn’t built to play in NY. The difference RJ in Toronto and RJ in NY is simply put the system. Thibs has a style a play and not everybody could fit in that style of play. Thibs tried to turn RJ into a 3&D player. Also it didn’t help that the personnel didn’t work for him. RJ shot 49 percent from the field this season and 55 with Toronto alone.
@@mrking1785 I don't like his game. He's not #3 pick.
Awesome video to frame these two - already showing so much chemistry on the court imo. I didn’t pick up on this history though, and neither did most of the media. Great storyline, fantastic presentation
Where’s all the potel haters at now? Y’all talking about how bad he is yet we can barley get a stop in the paint without him.
Great video!!!
Scottie went Montverde 2 years after.
It was the 17/18 season, national championship game.
Montverde then failed to win the title the following season after RJ left with Cade, Moody and co.
They then recruited Scottie for 19/20 season, forming that dominant 25-0 team who unfortunately didn't end up getting a chance to go for the title (Covid year).
I doubt Scottie would have agreed to join Montverde immediately after seeing his team lose to Montverde in the championship game.
They likely had to convince him to join.
Scottie very deliberate with his career & what he wants.
(He only went FSU cause of them allowing him to run point guard)
The fact Montverde didn't win the title that year & the team is different from RJ team helps.
When RJ got traded, one of the first things I thought of was how Scottie feels about it.
From what we know about Scottie is he doesn't forget.
Scottie went after RJ & Knicks last season.
Now there teammates...
As much as Scottie is a nice guy he must feel conflicted seeing a fierce rival on his team.
Even Masai when talking about the trade he didn't really make it seem like RJ was what he wanted & the Raptors future.
It seemed more like he was a throw in & Masai spoke on it like he's the Canadian kid coming back home (good for TV+tickets).
Masai with Quickley mentioned him being a perfect fit with Scottie.
I hope RJ + Scottie can put aside that highschool 'rivalry' & become good friends, develop together and bring a championship back to Toronto.
Scottie, RJ, Quickley, Gradey, (Hopefully Jarace Walker), is pretty good young core.
Yup messed up. I cut out the 2018-2019 season from the video about what he averaged next year and now I'm realizing the timeline totally screwed up. Fixed it now 🙂. Thanks for catching that. Phew
i die frau frau doktor doktor fischer und und sind sind sind die die ich nicht rtre bin t tee hast rreenoch errrr truetrain heute e rr though i die heutee treeven even die die sich und dann noch werein real mit mir zu kommen ich und wee tor tet r r habe and the und dann haben die die ganze woche auch keine keine zeit eh nur nur were r try eermehr mehr gemacht rtr
THIS VID TITLE IS PAUSE AF
Are you 9 years old?
@@pensarebasketball I COULD BE 99 STILL SHOULD NOT HAVE PUT THE TITLE 🤷🏿♂️
@@godflowflawlessleoneoffici6693He’s a grown man and can put whatever he wants in his title. It’s his title!
@@AEBUDIS N U A LIL BOY WITH A MOUTH WIDE OPEN WIPE YO LIPS 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I SAID WHAT I SAID
Thank you so much 😊❤
Scottie and Rj are going to be the building block.Quickley is going to be a major piece of there success.Because he produce in big game.The key to them.Is what they get for Siakam.If they can get a good veteran that close to allstar..That will be major.Even if they get some solid veteran that would be good.
Man, some of you raptors fans are weasels..l0l How easily you guys don't include pascal. A guy that brought you a champ.. You guys have a sick team.. And you wanna trade pascal.. You don't even have patience.. that said .This was a good video .. I did not know they played against each other.. Scotty and r j..
So thinking Siakam should be traded makes Raptor fans weasels???
Is keeping Siakam going to guarantee Raptors a championship or to be a contender? No
So why should Raptors hold onto a 30 year old player, looking for a max, who operates in same spots as the young franchise player.
Make it make sense.
Warriors moved on from Iguodala who helped them win multiple championship, make multiple finals, he was an NBA finals MVP.
If it was up to you, Derozan would still be a Raptor and Raptors would be ringless.
Masai moved on from Derozan contract in that Kawhi trade, he wanted him moved.
Masai wants to do the same with Siakam.
Siakam wants a bag, he's not chasing titles.
But you want to keep him when his ambition isn't to win a title.
He's comfortable, he already won. He cares about personal accolades & making money.
Otherwise he would have tried to force a move away in order to try win a title.
Siakam wants to stay, he's comfy in Canada.
Siakam had his chance to lead the team.
Raptors have a 5 year sample size with Siakam as number 1 option.
From age 25 to soon 30.
In that window. He was given the keys to an optimal roster who just won an NBA title.
Siakam had great regular season & horrible bubble playoffs.
Siakam was the worst performing no.1 option those playoffs.
Raptors in spite of Siakam awful play were still 1 possession away from making an Eastern Conference finals (Likely NBA final).
Had the Raptors boxed out and not let Tatum grab an offensive rebound on a missed FT late in Game 7 that led to Tatum to draw more FT's.
Raptors would have won. Raptors in the end lost with FVV missing a deep 3 to try tie the game, with rookie Grant Williams grazing the shot, blocking it.
Siakam in that Boston series only need to play Solid and Raptors would have potential been in an NBA finals.
Siakam played beyond awful, he let down the entire team.
That was Siakam closest shot to doing anything in the playoffs since he became the number 1 option & he was playing against the team with his bad play.
Siakam 4 full seasons as no.1 option.
Year 1:
Had stacked reigning NBA champion team, great regular season.
Siakam was great in regular season.
A 2nd round playoff exit, with Siakam the reason they failed, he was a complete no show in playoffs.
Year 2:
Siakam came into the next season in Tampa playing awful, had disaster start to the season, beefing Nick Nurse, dropping stinkers, missing game winners, missing layups in the clutch, disaster season.
In what was Raptors only losing season in the last 10 years (no playoffs).
Year 3:
Masai gave Siakam another chance. Scottie was drafted. Team was playing great without Siakam to start the season. OG was averaging 22 PPG to start, rookie Scottie 18 PPG, team was winning games.
Siakam cameback, team started losing but adjusted.
Siakam had a strong finish to the season.
1st round playoff exit.
Siakam had a good overall playoffs, however a complete no show in the most important game of the series, at home down 2-0 in a winnable game that came down to OG/Precious missed FT in 4th, forcing Overtime, Embiid OT game winner.
Siakam had solid series, no show in biggest game.
Year 4:
Siakam has great All-NBA calibre season, great individual season.
Play-in exit.
Siakam had a monster play-in game, however he was the one who missed clutch FT to save the season.
Siakam got lucky getting 3 FT's in dying seconds for a wrong call on a 3 point foul on the way up.
He however missed, season ending on his missed FT's.
Barnes is elevating, rj just stuck at same level for pass 2 years
This video shows how knowledgeable Rob is with the Raps and basketball in general. Rob is king of content, rather than just putting out quick vids reporting random tweets from "insiders" around the league.
Appreciate that Ricardo.
Vernon looked like he was paying mortgages in highschool
He was
@@pensarebasketball its crazy how true that is 🤣🤣. super fucked up
Why he look like now he lost all his arrogance
maple mamba that level of disrespect to kobe is insane bro
Scottie can guard.Four postion.And his defense and play making.Are good
Now rj stinks.... Rj is a complete bust he peaked he has no upside he is the same player he was from when he was a hs jr.... He is butt cheeks inc.
Great video, Rob. They're both such talented players and well-suited to Darko's offence (as is Quickley). The decision-making on the offensive end has been so much quicker since the trade. I feel optimism going into each game with this group that I haven't felt since the 2019-2020 season. OG is a wonderful player, but fit matters so much. I do think he would fit on this team too of course, but getting two good fits for one is huge.
Well crafted!
What do you think about Carmelo calling Barrett bland?
Insanity.
Stupidity. But flash without substance was his entire career. No wonder he can't see it.
Ya'll don't see this is two Jamaican boys dem. Tuff man dem. Two oxtails with rice and peas, dem man gonna be good, watch and see. Just two bulldogs that will eventually protect the yard together.
this comment took me out
Lmao, I just had some oxtails. Yummy 😋 😂😂
Scottie is overrated 🤷♀️
Are you trying to start shit? You are as bad as the refs. What's point? Thumbs down.
You've missed the point completely.
Yo please delete "whipping boy". From your vocabulary when speaking on black men. Not a good look.
Great video and newsflash to these RJ stans (just when you thought FVV vibes were done): RJ ain’t #1 option on this team.
Some people here are riding on him just because he’s Canadian and throwing Scottie Barnes to the side?
Weird af.
Masai will move heaven and hell to keep Scottie Barnes - don’t ever forget that.
Weird indeed. They can play together and thrive.
are they rj stans or fred stans using him for their anti-scottie agenda
@@cissem4025
At any opportunity.
Sick of it.
Ong. So sick of this talk as if Scottie didn’t average 24/8/6 in December. Dude is just selfless and has accepted a lower role to get RJ and IQ acclimated within the offence. Still the best player on the team and the guy we build around