Is Meat Really that Bad?
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Food is arguably the best thing about being alive. No other bodily pleasure is enjoyed multiple times every day and never gets old. It is an expression of culture, our parents' love and a means of celebration or comfort. That’s why it hits a special nerve when we are told we should change what and how we eat to fight rapid climate change. One of the most delicious foods, meat, gets the worst press. It doesn’t help that the topic is really hard to properly research yourself and debates get emotional quickly. But clearly science can give us an answer!
The reality is, well, it’s complicated. Let’s take a look at three climate arguments against meat that are used a lot and see what happens.
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MEAT IS GOOD
Not having dislikes means I can't really tell how well-received this video is. Which sucks because this is such a heated topic.
yep, CZcams absolutely needs to bring the dislikes back
Why does it matter?
@@filgaming7746 Which will only work for 'til the end of the year, when CZcams will even remove dislikes from their APIs.
It's a really good thing for the 'content creators'. Now they can say horrendously idiotic things without any sense of criticism or disapproval. Now there's no real way of voicing such disapproval. Comments do nothing, you can upload a video response but literally no one will see it or care. The era of stupidity has begun.
@@pawaniyer Fanciful worship and blind faith on your part, but reality finds it inaccurate. You can learn a lot of things from Kurzgesagt and there's also a lot they get wrong.
Stop accepting everything blindly.
“Food is arguably the best thing about being alive”
Everyone who loves food: “I felt that”
Hi ;))
will you ever grow a mustache?
I am THE FIRST
@@glare2765 AM FIRST
You I see you everywhere!!!! Haaaaa
Would be great if you guys also did a video on overfishing and seafood. Exploitation of fish stocks is a much larger issue than plastic pollution, but the media never cover it. I'm a marine biology undergraduate and I feel this is a super important topic for people to know about alongside this! How cutting down on the consumption of unsustainable seafood (and what that means) compares to farmed meat would be be perfect for a Kurzgesagt video!
Edit: Also important to consider why this is such a difficult problem - due to the fishing industry being highly corporate and lucrative, while having a black market too. Not only this, but along with the health benefits of some seafood (e.g. omega 3 in oily fish), many countries (particularly poor island nations) rely on seafood as their main protein source.
Sustainability is the ultimate goal and I'd love to see how kurzgesagt suggest we reach it! :)
This video wasn't over plastic pollution? It was over the most impactful pollution; greenhouse gasses.
Which are destroying our planet. Not just one section but the entire planet. Oceans, forests, icebergs they are all facing the consequences of our greenhouse gas emissions.
I absolutely agree
Yes please!
When you said "especially in Brazil", as a Brazilian, I wanted to cry. We have this really nice and important forest and we are burning it down, wtf
Se tu vive em algum lugar do norte, essa não é nem a pior parte. Em pouco em pouco a gente avança área verde pra fazer mais apartamentos e condomínios, sem contar invasões
Same, im from Brazil and i was sad.
We just burn every day the floresta Amazônia
True
As another brazilian, I agree that burning the amazon forest will not just bring consequences for Brazil, Colombia and other countries which the forest is also located in, but for the whole world
The amazonian forest isn't called "Lung of the World" for no reason
Calma. Tem que ver o porque e como a "preservação da Amazônia" é feita. Métodos estúpidos como somente entregar pra ONGS internacionais não servem (largar na mão de garimpeiro também não). E o oceano é mais importante ainda e mesmo assim nao fazem tanto escândalo.
One thing to keep in mind: you don't have to go 100% vegan or vegetarian ... it isn't all or nothing. If you replace beef with pork or chicken, great. If you eat meat less often or have smaller portions, great. That all helps. I have changed to a mostly vegetarian diet but when I get Thai food (a couple times a month) I opt for chicken. If I'm eating with others and we are sharing food, I'll have what they're having, no fuss about insisting on vegetarian options.
Yes!!!
I think the Catholics had it right with their vegetarian days. In medieval times they'd eat beans instead of meat a few days a week and I think everyone should do the same (but also include eggs as a protein).
THANK YOU!
Nobody (other than the vegan extremists, who make up a very small, but vocal portion of us) wants to force people to eat the Beyond/Impossible/Gardein products. Literally all we want is for people to consider their options and see if changing 1 part of their diet is feasible. As stated in the video, more often than not, it's those few small decisions that make the biggest longterm difference. Go fully vegan? Awesome! Cut out 1 single beef dish per year? Still great!
*One step forward is all it takes!*
I have been giving up eating mammals.
And that's great if you're happy eating that. Some people get a greater joy from eating pork or beef and they're not required to give up the things that make them happy when there are plenty of other things that other people choose to do that contribute just as much or more to climate change. Just because a bunch of people who don't appreciate food decided it's easy to cut back on meat doesn't mean that it's the main problem or solution.
I like that you guys actually did not hide the fact that factory meat production is actually better than locally. I'm still against harsh conditions in factory meat production but it is actually pretty nice that you actually showed us the truth
same. I'd rather buy locally just to know the animals have likely had a better life, even then, just balancing plant based meals and meat meals should also at least fix a lot of the problems locally could cause
Tbf the solution is simple, just eat meat once or twice a week, it's save money, it's save earth, and it's better for your health, and a lot better than buying discount meat every day, being omnivore dosen't mean we need to eat equal amounts of meat and vegetables
@@N1ko0L It's crazy simple right? I don't understand why people are so adamant that they have to eat meat every day; it's not a big ask to cut it down to once or twice a week, or even better, only have it for special occasions
The best thing about this is that putting heavy regulations on factory farms would still provide better outcomes for animals AND more efficient meat for us. The only reason we're not seeing more research and funding for things like lab grown meat as a livestock replacement is because the livestock industry is so lucrative and monopolized. Regulate the emissions, regulate the cruelty, and I guarantee you we'll be seeing massive breakthroughs in affordable meat products that are genetically identical to beef without ever having to grow and butcher a cow.
@@kimsanghyuk97 instant change like that would be difficult to swallow. Like if I told myself at 10 I would eat close to a third of the sugar I ate at that time, I wouldn't be able to. But that's what I'm currently doing, and stuff with stupid high sugar content doesn't taste good anymore. The only reason I'm able to is because my mom slowly decreased the amount of sugar in everything we baked and ate.
Kurzgesagt : Terraforming Venus is easy
Also Kurzgesagt : Meat …. Is Complicated
Funny how the world works
.... It's bs
Its complicated due to moral implications not technological.
@@nicholastsl What moral implications? Cows are animals and everything is food for something else. The idea you shouldn't eat animals on moral grounds is as ridiculous as the argument you shouldn't wear glasses because they interfere with the natural aging process or drink alcohol because it's wasteful.
The animals we eat are the most successful species biologically ~ they make up the majority of the mammalian biomass.
@@nicholastsl But they dont talk about any ethics, did they?
I am glad that they acknowledged the useless land. I know that near where I live we have hundreds of square miles of useless desert that is designated as “cattle land”, even though it’s rarely used for grazing.
"Look at all this land we are using for cattle grazing, which would otherwise be wasted!" But actually raises cattle in factory farms.
@@davidvuong9128 no 25% of the lands surface is used by extensively keep animals.. ask Wikipedia. 🙆🏻
@@gettingnew500 I asked Wikipedia, and I found out that, whether extensive or not, the vast majority of arable lands is wasted for animal agriculture. You are really committing to persuade the world of bs, am I right? Maybe you want to preach about regenerative agriculture too?
I mean, one needs some kind of mental illness to believe that the resources used for 80 billions of animals every year are LESS than what you need for 7 billions of humans. So really, bless your heart. I hope someone will find a cure.
@@gettingnew500 You realize that wikipedia is controlled by a political group that enforces American Progressivism, rather than objectivity, right?
It's co-founder had said just as much when he departed the company.
;) Seriously.. If you're using wikipedia to get knowledge, you're intentionally being misled.
@@StylesEste hm..
i think you can be too scared of the world. i always look for many sources. otherwise we just can't get out of the world. BillGates sets the tone here, and you can still watch the film. 😉
Kurzgesagt: Food is, arguably, the best thing about being alive.
Zuckerberg: *adds to 'How to act alive' list*
That’s a good one
More like adds to "How to act human" list.
He's already smoking these meats
sweet baby raes
Pretty sure he is noting down to add restaurants and simulate eating in his metaverse now 😂😂
I initially read this as “Is Meth Really that Bad?” and for a moment was very concerned for Kurzgesagt
That's the next video
I'd watch that
It would explain some of the more wacky animations on the videos
No, it's not bad at all, actually. Perhaps that's why this 8-ball is just dying to be your friend.
Kurzgesagt desperately trying to explain away all the all-nighter they have to make quality videos for us.
Wonderful topic and coverage on this video! Thank you for including your sources document as well, wonderful for future reading. Cheers!
"Food is arguably the best thing about being alive"
Me, eating food right now: I couldn't agree more
Literally eating a steak while watching this.
literally fasting while watching this
“No other bodily pleasure is enjoyed multiple times every day and never gets old.”
*Yoda voice* : No, there is another.
Lol
pooping is just followthrough on eating
@@solgato5186 I mean if that’s what your into to
Breathing? Blinking? Peeing? Talking?
You mean, take a shower and sleeping?
This is all too complicated, I’ll just stop eating
I recommend putting all food you own into a blender to consume them by drinking. Also make sure to use a straw.
stop breathing to decrease carbon emissions, modern problems require modern solutions B)
Well technically dying WOULD reduce your carbon footprint more than cutting back on meat.
You could use the method Martha Stewart used on South Park!
Doesn't help that most climate science is a jumbled mess of scaremongering and guilt-tripping, fueled by numerous inaccurate predictions, manipulated data and strawmen arguments, and some of the leaders of the climate movement are scam artists. People like Al Gore and John Kerry.
Can I just say that I love the kind of people that these Kurzgesagt videos bring together? Even in disagreement, most of the conversations in the comments are open-minded and respectful. It really gives me hope.
I know Some people don't know This but sometimes You have to do crop rotations between growing crops and Pasture land because after a Couple Years you have to since the land is lacking some nutrients and using in for hay allows it to grow back.
Soybeans, which he specifically mentioned, are often a trash crop grown to restore nitrogen in the soil. There simply aren't enough people to eat all the soybeans. But cows...
@@RipleySawzen I'm doing research on this topic and find this very interesting, could you please send me a link to a study that supports this??
@@lauariasmart Why certainly! CZcams deletes links, so you can search up *Nitrogen in the Environment: Nitrogen Replacement Value of Legumes.*
Interestingly, it's not the soybeans themselves that contribute to soil nitrogen levels, but the bacteria that eat the dead soybean plants the next spring. This is different from what happens with corn. You can read more about that at *Why Do We Need a Soybean Nitrogen Credit* as well.
You can search up *Soybeans for Hay or Silage* for some information on using soybeans as a crop for animals. Forage (grazing) soybeans are noted as not needing as much or any herbicide. They also need little to no pesticide. (Do you care if the cows eat bugs?) And due to the nitrogen fixing nature, obviously less fertilizer.
Any crop grown for human consumption will use more herbicide, fertilizer (in this case probably more phosphorus), and pesticides. I looked for some articles about this, but couldn't find any. All the search results are full of the politicized misinformation about the topic. It's difficult to find anything about the actual farming techniques of human vs animal feed. I do hate it when politics completely drowns out science. Hopefully, it's just obviously apparent enough that human food requires better farming techniques than animal food.
@@lauariasmart all legumes have a symbiotic relationship with nitrogen fixing bacteria. If you look that up, you'll find how legumes can serve as a cover crop.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that the massive soybean plantations are used as a cover crop to restore the soil though.
"The reality is,well,its complicated. "
Kurzgesagt explained life in a nutshell.
I got quality documentaries on my channel🙂
@@OfficiallyRonny Ok Spammer
Speaking about complicated, lab grown meat was never mentioned
Start of the video: “it’s complicated”
End of the video: beef is stupid bad for the environment on all counts
but it wasn't though. The reality ended up being that they are right and meat is bad for enviroment
Video suggestion: Can you guys show us the current status of lab grown meat and vertical farming technology? Love your work!
Yess please!
Unfortunately it is nowhere close in terms of scalability let alone acceptability and affordability, even at scale. At best, all it ever will be is a niche indulgence.
There's a video on the RealScience channel about it actually. Tldr; It's really hard to grow meat outside of a body and currently requires copious amounts of aborted cow fetus blood in the form of FBS (Fetal Bovine Serum).
Definitely want to see this. Lab-grown meat seems like the most viable way to fix the majority of problems with meat, without forcing people to just stop eating meat.
also more GMO !
7:21 this little guy in the corner speaks out exactly what I was thinking. So much detail in these videos! Thank you!
bill loves you
I meant billgates.
I'm curious what role sea food could play in all this. (I'm woefully undereducated on these issues unfortunately. 😅 If anyone who knows stuff has any advice, I'd appreciate a link or two at least.)
Seafood I devastatingly bad, 85%, of fish stocks are overexploited and illegal fishing is responsible or piracy in the suez canal
@@SCP--ck5ip okay but how does that apply to the carbon situation? 🤔 I guess that's a pretty loaded question. 😅
@@BartyTheParty
Because pollution is largest in urban locations and the biggest impacts are seen there
fish is incredible, good to us.
and.. vegans sent their undigested plants to the sewage treatment plant for methanogenesis. methanogenesis start on the way under the dirty town.
🌿😁
"No other bodily function is enjoyed multiple times and never gets old"... Well, this is going places.
oh lord...BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I'm a huge fan of breathing.
Funni sausage
Timestamp? I somehow missed that.
@@raandomplayer8589 0:04
no matter how I hard I try, I just cannot imagine how the speaker could look like based off his voice
Like a birb
Probably human too
It sounds computer generated to me but I am not confident enough to assert as such.
Like a orangutan
@@allistertheeldritchmemegod3537 It is not computer generated, it is a voice actor.
“No other bodily pleasure is enjoyed multiple times a day, and never gets old” oh I beg to differ
seeexxx 😁
Instructions unclear: I am now a persistence hunter in east Africa and creating 0 carbon footprint
"Food is arguably the best thing about being alive."
Love him or hate him, he is spittin facts to us.
Life over taste
probably because we would die if we didnt eat at all...
ye
@@jonasl8830 I've always wondered why some can be so empathetic towards a food source, something that almost defies nature, but that's what makes human beings so interesting. The ideas we make up can change our entire framework of thought, shake the foundations of our psyche to the point where we are pretty much indoctrinating ourselves. To me, our feelings do not make something true, and that is the case with morality, just because you FEEL, doesn't mean that it IS. There is a thin line there that should be tread carefully and I'd advise not getting ahead of yourself, history shows were that kind of hubris can go. Unless you're religious or something, then ethical relativism doesn't apply to you, congrats, you have your ideological dictator and your god is the end all be all.
I mean it's a question of why we even consider animals to be food in the first place, when nutritionally they don't have anything unique or special that can't be derived from plant foods. Why is it that we only consider certain animals as food, but others as pets or zoo animals, etc? In America, we consider cow and pig to be food, but in India the cow is sacred and pork is forbidden in the Middle East. The Middle East sees horses, camels, and bunnies as food, Southeast Asia will eat snakes, while in some parts of Africa, insects are eaten happily. China considers dogs and cats to be food, and Eastern European countries prize sheep milk and goat milk over cow's milk. Think about why we don't have a universal ideal of what's food and what are protected animals. The reality is that you didn't come to eating animals intuitively, it's something we've been conditioned to believe for centuries. We don't salivate at raw meat or a bloody carcass the way real carnivores do. We need to cook our dead meat & season it in order for it to be chewable and palatable. We don't even have the proper teeth or claws to hunt animals, we manufactured tools to do so. Biologically, even our digestion is more aligned to a herbivore than an omnivore. Behaviorally, we've adapted to like meat, but deep down it was never a choice given to us. We were inculcated with these ideas in our unsuspecting youth just as our parents had once been, and their parents before, and their parents before...
So to say that meat even tastes good is misleading, bc we go through ALOT of steps just to turn it into "food": blood-draining, de-furring, skinning, de-boning, removing tumors, etc. Then we need to hang it upside down on a hook in a fridge while it decomposes and collects bacterial slime aka "tenderizing". Then we scrape that slime off and start sectioning. We pump it with carbon monoxide to take it from deathly grey to rosy pink. Then the marinade/spices happens bc unseasoned meat tastes terrible. Then we cook it in order to avoid e.coli, listeria, or salmonella poisoning. Yum. But we're not done, bc meat is the #1 choking hazard for humans, so you still need a knife and fork. But sure, let's continue to convince ourselves that meat is a "human food".
I want to see a part two of this with more information about food that comes from the ocean, rivers and lakes.
Even worse
I think that would be very difficult to measure. Terrestrial plant life and usage can be measured, weighed, mapped, calculated down to pretty accurate figures. It's much more difficult to measure the exact diet of fish (stomach dissection help, but then you have to break down the "what smaller thing in the ocean was eating the next smaller thing" very far down) Fish also have free travel, unlike penned livestock. It's hard to measure the carbon storage of an area underwater and figure out how much of that a fish used, especially given the vast variety of fish we eat compared to our fairly standard terrestrial food animals. This applies mostly more to rivers and oceans, so lakes and ponds could be studied, but they make up such a small percentage of our aquatic diet compared to the oceans that it would likely be fairly useless. Fish farms could also be measured more accurately, but still I believe they are much less a factor than free ocean fishing and trawling.
That said, I'm more a terrestrial than aquatic ecologist, so there could be many more studies in aquatic ecology that I'm not aware of.
it would be worse cuz that damages the seabed and plants
I don't think it's as bad. It's a kind of different ecosystem of problems. There's overfishing, plastic pollution, and mass use of antibiotics in fish farms.
They promised they'll cover this someday.
And the water use, pollution, and anti-biotic problem with factory farming.
How about fish? How eco-friendly is seafood compared to plants? A video about it would be nice
Yeah I would really like that too
Fish population is declining even more!!
Also itll cause biomagnification.
@@GamingoMatic Why are you against other people eating animal products from the same animals that you use animal products from?
@@SteversChed bro stop repeating the same comment every time
@@masterzzz1266 Nah...
There is a missing thing about grasslands. Currently without livestock. We removed big herd herbivore mammals from grasslands, which were probably the key species for these biomes through hunting and domestication. There is evidence by Allan Savory that indices that trampling by large herds of herbivores was a key element in the growing process. So probably now we need to feed cows on grasslands in order to prevent desertification
Exactly! 💯 agree
from me also 10 points 👍
Okay, then you should only eat cows fed on grassland
@@mmmmaurer is this a problem to you?
@@mmmmaurer In some areas, they actually use bison because bison can go up steeper hills than cows.
"The more the animals suffer the better they are for the environment" so dark I can't see my hands
Definitely raises some dark questions about what we do
Don’t eat/waste so much meat solves both problems. Or just reduce human population by half. Most problems are solved.
guys I found thanos
@@royhuang9715 waste of a huge issue
Same for developed vs developing countries. It applies to humans too.
"No other bodily pleasure is enjoyed multiple times a day and never gets old."
Tell that to teenage me.
Do you still do it with someone? If you got that someone.
@@-dale2051 I think what they're talking about doesn't require any someone's other than themselves.
A male right?
@@ddandymann I know that, but I want to know if maybe he has someone he can do it with now. And if yes, does he do it multiple times a day like before.
@@anonymousanonymous9587 can be anyone dude even girls
Watching this for the first time in July 2022 and when bro said "there are a few shiny calendars left" I was like BRUH they didn't sell out of these? Then I realized how far behind I am in the Kurzgesagt world.
9:45 ah yes, my favorite dish. Local, homegrown, 100% organic T Cells
“They don’t spend spare energy on things like walking.” Thats a sentence I never thought I’d hear.
TBH There are a lot of people who do the same.
Mevin Jimmy is white
아 한국어 자먁 있으면 좋겠다..
@@OfficialExqui cough cough americans
Walking is optional for burgers and egg factories.
I noticed you changed your thumbnail image from “Meat Love” to “Meat Hate.” What was reason for the change and what did your analytics tell you about the difference in response between the two approaches?
I can answer this for you: engagement. The most controversial take gets the most clicks, from either haters or fans. Twitter and Facebook uses this same strategy, so corporation-level CZcams channels do the same.
The thumbnail was the reason of why I opened the video. At first, I saw the video on my feed with another image, the "Meat Love" one, but I wasn't interested enough in the topic to watch it right away. Then, the video is again on my feed, but with the current thumbnail... I was confused, and I didn't know either if I was going crazy or if they actually changed the thumbnail, so I had to watch the video LoL
*Update: Upon watching the video, I think that the current thumbnail is more fitting than the "Meat Love" one. "Meat Hate" is not meant to be their take, but rather the popular belief (meat/cows are "evil") on which they establish their investigation. That's also why the video is called "Is Meat Really that Bad?", they are questioning it and providing facts as they are
TL;DR: The video doesn't have any agenda. The change of thumbnail was on point
My educated guess... the first wave of viewers are mostly subscribers, so as to not lose subscribers, a non 'controversial' title. But for higher click through rate, a more debatable title which will make users click.
Just my take
Probably just experimenting with what thumbnails attract attention more.
@@jchoi2527 kurzgesagt is not a corporation, no questions asked
Epic video! ❤ hey kurgastonk did you read the new jjk chapter?
7:20 got me laughing the bird said, "could this title be any longer?"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣!
I was surprised that the environmental repercussions of eating fish wasn’t discussed also. I’m genuinely curious!
I'm sure they'll do a video on that. If you don't want to wait, there's a documentary on Netflix called 'Seaspiracy' that discusses the topic in detail.
Damn, that's so true.
@@jamesbyrne3033 Why do you use animal products needlessly for entertainment while acting like you're against it?
I know you won't answer this question directly and truthfully, I just want anyone reading to see your moral hypocrisy.
I predict you will ignore the question, go into denial, ask me which animal products proving you don't do your own research, and/or use a doctrine as justification for using animal products needlessly for entertainment.
@@janieswanson2549 Hi Janie, could you tell me what products you think I'm using that might have animal products in them. I'm pretty careful to avoid all animal products when making all of my purchasing decision but if you think I've missed something I'd be grateful if you'd let me know.
Perhaps you could also let me know how you avoid the same products?
Thanks.
i do know fish is very complicated environmentally, as it is the most efficient to farm meat, but it causes huge habitat destruction on limited habitat, so i want to hear a video too!!!
I swear the thumbnail was a happy cow and not an evil one when this video came out lol.
By the way, awesome video as always. I know ya'll bust your butts to research and edit these things. We're very grateful!
It's still a happy cow on the german vid
Yeah , at first it was "Meat love" and they changed it to "Meat hate"
Yep! Same observation here, the thumbnail changed, and the videos are awesome.
It definitely got changed.
i wondet why they changed it...
So far, I've learned that flying a cow is worse than flying an airplane, and I can put grass fed on anything despite it not being grass fed. I'm going to use a grass fed keyboard to type this and there is physically nothing you can do to tstop me.
"Food is arguably the best thing of being alive".
Truth. I once went to study abroad in a class with lots of international students, and it's funny how everyone agrees that the first thing they miss from their home country is the food. Not a location, not people, not music, but food.
I started to feel the loss on my 2nd-3rd week out of my 1 year study. It's pretty weird.
DUDE YES. I'm going back to my home country for the holidays and I've already planned out a hefty route to try all the special foods I'm missing that "just aren't the same" here in america lol.
I'm guessing none of the participants were Finnish. There aren't many foods to miss here :D
How tf u miss music like u can hear it anywhere
@@TommiV226 no haista vittu
Man I miss fish and chips….☹️
I worked in the beef industry for several years and heavily researched the carbon impact of beef. I largely agree with the conclusion of this video. The biggest problem with beef production is a matter of scale. Scaling up production is "efficient" in terms of dollars and profit, but comes at the cost of slash and burn land clearing, intensive monocrop animal feed agriculture, extreme water use and water pollution, and greenhouse gas emissions. Beef absolutely can be raised in an environmentally friendly and low emissions way, but the maximum amount that can be produced without serious negative externalities is less than 20% of current beef consumption. Worldwide, there is not much land that has the correct soil and climate to be good at raising beef, but in a way that does not negatively affect the biodiversity of the environment. Basically only semi-arid grasslands that have historically supported large populations of bison or other migratory grass eating animals.
^ and it goes without saying that if production is reduced, the price of beef will skyrocket. The current price of beef that US consumers are used to makes no sense because it completely ignores greenhouse gas emissions and environmental destruction. And the price is artificially lowered by subsidies on water, fossil fuels, and farmland that go into producing feed for industrial beef operations.
I kind of didn’t get the point about local-beef pollution. He compared boat shipping of avocados with truck-transportation of beef but don’t avocados need to be taken to our local grocery store also? Also avocados need to be taken to the boat somehow, and the comparison wasn’t nutrient-wise so hard to tell
@@thelonespeaker I think that part of the video was overly confusing and unnecessary. Beef transport is a rounding error compared to the rest of the emissions from the beef industry. And it will be largely solved when countries electrify the rest of their transport infrastructure.
I think the point was to show that "buy local" doesn't automatically win - low emissions food shipped 1000 miles is still better than high emissions food shipped 10 miles.
Thanks for the comments.
I was also wondering how hunting is impacting. I could imagine reforestation would be a sustainable source but then again this need a lot of land to feed a family. And I was wondering too if the Bison were emitting the same amount.
I feel this comment is a nice additional to the video
Great video ❤
What about doing a follow up about cultivated meat?
Easter egg: There's a T Immune Cell on a plate 9:45
“Well…it’s complicated.”
That should be Kurzgesagt’s motto lol 😆
It's a good starting point. In a world where on social media people boil down arguments into simplistic memes and slogans, people need to spend the time to understand many of the issues we discuss have lots of nuance and detail. Kurzgesagt does a great job of exposing those key talking points.
I would buy it if it was on a shirt
Well...to be honest, they're being dutiful and people that K.I.S.S. mostly show a P.robably I.ncorrect S.cientific S.crutinization of their proofs & arguments.
If real life wasn't so complicated, "dumb" isn't a word that would have to be used as much
and
we would know better than to think emotionally about objective problems.
Merch idea
They need to dumb down these complex topics to make them palatable for the generic YT audience, that's what popsci channels are about. At least they are honest and do a shitton of research/consulting on their end.
I just realized how badly I want a kurzgesagt world map...
They have one in their store! I bought one, looking for a frame for it cuz its SO very nice and I want it to look good on my wall hahaa
There is one
I watch your videos at home and school for information about things. My teacher says its very useful for my Country Championship. Lets hope it works... 🤞
but it is billgates agenda.. dont you know?
Upgrade from me, sorry I am pasting:
Methane caused by methanogenesis caused by cows, is generated by microbes and by low oxygen in the surrounding area. In cows ruminates there is no oxygen.
BUT:
cows are carbon! neutral! like every metabolism.
this is just the carbon cycle.
crude oli never reaches this.
we use billions of gallons a day, says Statista.
the sewage, the digestion under the town, is full of methane, caused by vegan human planteater. We can not digest fiber.
And fiber cause methanogenesis.
Meateaters won't cause methanogenesis, in meat is no fiber.
(we use meat and animal fat, milk, cheese for energy, energy means CO2 /O2 excange = no methanogenesis is possible)
Eat more grass finished meat.
Stop corn finished meat.
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Corn-fed animals taste better (see popcorn) and are unhealthier (Omega6 Omega 3 ratio and so on)
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Petroleum not only adds carbon, petroleum, natural gas, coal also adds heat. 11kW per liter of oil.
This heat is the stored energy in the fossil fuels. This is possible thanks to the energy of the earth pressure and the energy of the geothermal energy in the deep layers, which could convert the fossil and plant layers into our beloved oil, natural gas and coal rock.
Below the clouds, the atmosphere warms up when we burn oil and natural gas, coal. Especially good on cold days when it is cloudy and cold at the same time.
These are heat bubbles that move on and then spread out
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Sewer gas, landfill gas, sewage treatment gas, look it up.
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😁And vegans cause more toilet paper, toilet paper causes more methane in the wastewater. Totally undigested cellulose, digested by microbes to produce methane.
There is almost no oxygen under the city, because CO2 in the air is heavier than oxygen.
No oxygen means methanogenesis, caused by human planteaters.
I love meat, grass finished meat, cheese, milk, butter, really fill up.
👍animal dung extensively helps the world to regenerate
animal dung
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🦎🐁🦇🦦🦨🦆🦉🦅
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a good world
no field can do that.
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I still can’t believe baby male chickens get shredded
hm, yes, i also see it that co2 is better, it is absolutely painless.
but then it's called gassing and of course the word has negative meanings. that's why they have to die while shredding
or just as a young chicken.
For all those asking why they didn't cover artificially produced meat - it's because it doesn't exist on a commercial scale yet. Nobody has managed to scale artificial meat production (as opposed to meat substitutes) to a scale where it's capable of being part of the solution. If it turns out to be possible to produce artificial meat cheaply en-masse then that would be great, but you can't rely on a technology that nobody has yet proved works (and is economically viable) on a large scale, and nobody is capable of predicting whether technology that doesn't currently exist might exist in the future. It's the same reason why nobody is going to suggest humanity will depend on nuclear fusion in a video on future energy - it'd be great if it became feasible, but nobody knows whether it ever will.
@@vashsunglasses Wtf are you talking about? Calories is literally just a measure of energy. ''processed garbage'' has energy, and so does artificial meat.
I'm asking why the did all their calculations based on beef when it's not representative of all meat production.
en masse
(ɒn mæs)
ADVERB
If a group of people do something en masse, they do it all together and at the same time.
The people marched en masse.
...the arrival en masse of the Latin American delegates.
Synonyms: all together, together, as one, as a whole
@@legrandliseurtri7495 theres such a thing as an empty calorie.
Yes it's energy, but unlike a regular calorie, its energy that the body can't use.
Artificial meat is not meat.
*REAL* men eat *REAL* meat.
Me: “I love how Kurzgesagt makes science understandable”
Kurzgesagt: *beef stonks*
Kurzgesagt is missing the real problem, or is choosing to ignore it.That is, there is no climate issue. There is an overpopulation issue. No matter how you cut the mustard, you cannot have a sustainable planet with 7+ billion people on it. There is only one problem. There can only be one solution. What's terrible is you can't even eliminate 5+ billion people all at once. The carbon and sulfur release alone from dead human bodies makes the project about as deadly as nuclear war. It's a real dilemma. We need to stagger the body reduction to combat that effect, whilst staying ahead of climate disaster. I fear that equation is already unreachable, regardless of whether determined men with resources are willing to take on the great challenge.
@@Mortum_Rex If we had half the population, we'd still have to solve the same problems to fix climate. Just with twice as long deadline, but half the people working on the problem.
Besides, what's your solution? Mass execution? Sure, would you like to go first? They discussed overpopulation in Africa, and they acknowledged overpopulation in a climate video, but preaching does nothing. The world isn't gonna change just like that, we need to work with what we have.
@@MewPurPur but preaching does nothing... well, every problem so far is being solved by only "preaching".
@@Mortum_Rex ayo ur spittin straight fax tho
@@Mortum_Rex there is still a climate change issue 🤦♂️
Only ogs know that the original thumbnail was meat hate
The avocado also needs to be locally distributed.
Riiiight????
They also used such extreme numbers for meat
70kg or 4kg
No in between
@@jackpowell5436 You fellows do realize that non vegans ALSO eat avocados, almonds etc right? right?? majority of almond and avocados are still consumed by non vegans. Even if it were the case, those PLANTS having high carbon and water footprints are still exponentially BETTER than Beef/Seafood, and if you want, just stop consuming almonds and avocados, this is literally a strawman to deflect the argument
@@jackpowell5436lol kid
I know this is far from their point, but man, what I would give to play an RTS or strategy game with the art style of Kurzgesagt. Been watching these videos for years now and the graphics always look clean, fresh, and new. One of the best art teams on the planet, hands down.
Hello lets play digger online or among us
Here you go : Planetary Annihilation: TITANS
A multiplayer strategy game about micro-managing the biggest parts of a country, while also caring for climate change and your people’s health, and managing diplomacy with other nations, all in the kurzegezagt style sounds awesome, sort of like the civ6 dlcs DLCs but more in-depth into the added mechanics and less about expansion and such, I’d play the shit out of this
A game called Polytopia looks kinda like it if you want
100% right
The fact that free content that is as gorgeous and jaw dropping as this exists makes me hardly doubt the amount of effort and passion that goes into these videos. Truly inspiring and incredible.
Free? I believe kurzgesagt is a very profitable channel ;)
"If you're not paying for the product, you are the product"
@@Innercynic it is free,not to the people paying them but to us
Okay, this comment was fun when it was written years ago for their first videos. We don't need to be reminded about this with every, single, video.
@@camorainbow2253 If we didn't watch, they don't get paid, sooo... we do pay, just not with money.
@@Innercynic the thing is nothing is realy free, but under that concept this is "free"
im glad you brought up the damage being caused for soy so many people glance over that like it doesnt exist
The soy problem is avoided by many because it is related to the consumption of meat and animal derivatives and people don't care
What crop can convert the scrub grass of the western US into usable nutrition like cattle ranching?
None.
cows are unbelievable.
"Food is aguably the best thing about being alive." Already had me and my whole attention just with that line.
ZAMM THAT SNOWMAN’s 12 😍
@@minimcgregorminipekka7386 bruh
@@theironrubberduck 💀
fr lmao
that is totally not true for me and i suspect it isn't for many other people
You need to do a video on artificial sugars. It’s so hard to find information and have any confidence that it’s not been tainted by sugar lobbies promoting their sugar free products
Germany is good therefore, try german sides. glucose-fructose-syrup kills billion peoples.
i've read artificial sweeteners is even worse for you than natural sugar
@@iKadaj yes, i heard this about the erythritol, mannitol, sorbitol, xylitol. called sugar alcohols. But you often read advertisements about them, they are just good there..
@@iKadaj I had heard that but I’ve also seen countless doctors dismiss those studies saying the results were shown in mice and were never replicated in humans. However it’s hard to say if they are informed by studies tainted by sugar lobbies and they are in their pockets directly or don’t realize themselves that the places they are getting the information from is tainted
@@Alphabunsquad I don't know about how good that argument is in isolation - while animal studies provide weak evidence it is enough to warrant counter-evidence to establish safety (both my parents are doctors and they actually have different opinions on some such topics, but both agree for example that Temple University's rapeseed oil study was concerning)
Ok Mr Bill Gates, what’s for dinner?
Modified soy, update 42069 again?
Oh joy
Question, the long transport in ships may be efficient, but corps aren't grown and consumed in a harbour. Doesn't trasport to and from the harbours and distribution centres and then more local transport to supermarkets add up to more CO2 than just locally produced foods?
No corps are grown and consumed in a harbor.
People don't eat corps.
Corps aren't food.
Define "trasport."
@@janieswanson2549 Crops, it was a typo. ChungusMcYeetus is correct, locally bought would use less since for me getting something like US avocados would need a truck to travel 100 to 800km and another 300km for me to buy it from the store. Meanwhile beef for me would only have to travel 45-60km at the very most.
@@apoorhorseabusedbycenk I know...
"No other bodily pleasure is enjoyed multiple times a day"
You underestimate me
yes hawk, flying is the best
@@gettingnew500 hehe :>
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one to think of this
I'd personally be interested in hearing more about this new grown meat scientists have come up with. Not so much how it's done, but if it's actually better overall
fart
I did a life cycle analysis on this for college. The lab grown beef still has a worse environmental impact than chicken due to the amount of energy it takes. Now, it uses less of the grains that chickens use for food, and it would be a solid option if the energy was gained from sustainable sources. It's just that at the moment, the electrical infrastructure isn't there in most places.
depends what you mean by better, if you mean price, last time I checked it was 18 000 dollars a pound
Gross. We need to stop relying on scientists playing God to survive
@@UrMom_says Agreed. Let us revert to our base animal instincts and hunter-gatherer cultures
Interesting video, I find the info pretty useful!
this thumbnail is wild, a cow with hearts in its eyes? cows don't eat meat. a cow with terror in its eyes would fit.
Rational, not patronizing, and providing good data that can be analyzed in a useful way. That's a good way to present and debate a topic. Really did a good job with this one.
If you eat to much meat you'll get mercury poisoning
Misleading, though. Getting rid of the bacteria actually responsible for producing methane wasn't mentioned, though we've known this for twenty years. Just promotion of the unhealthy vegan lifestyle.
@@tibfulv unhealthy according to whom? It's scientific consensus that it's an excellent diet when adequately planned.
@@Chepperz roflmao no it isnt. Quite the opposite. The general scientific consensus is vegan diet is bad for you in the long run. We aren't made to be vegan. Nice propaganda attempt. Busted.
@@fredrikchristmansson3700 there's like 1000 million recognized studies explaining veganism is as good as a non-vegan diet, maybe even better. Do you also believe the virus was created by politicians and helps them track us? lmao
Kurzgesagt: "no other bodily pleasure is enjoyed multiple times everyday and never gets old"
Teenage boys: ...
I was just thinking that
i am the milk man my milk is delicious
it does get old. Trust me
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Kk
Woah stats can be misleading
This video is amazing! Well done! Incredible and fun way to communicate a very complicated topic
It’s very biased and one sided
@@xtremeyoylecake - No, you are just gullible and believed someone without proper evidence
Kurzgesagt never disappoints with the quality of the animation and the importance of the topics they choose!
true, they aren't that good about the quality of information though
@@Flora-wo2hc how so?
Yeah their point of information is strict to topic. Which makes it interesting to hear.
@@Flora-wo2hc Could u elaborate?
@@harmonic5107 for example, for the video to make sense one have to assume that global warming due to human activity is a real thing... and is not
"No other bodily pleasure is enjoyed multiple times every day, and never gets old." ... I can think of another..
About not getting old, I have some news for you
There is another
@@moscanaveia not everyone can be gifted
Breathing? Drinking? They aren't as pleasurable I'll tell you. The other one? It won't be enjoyed multiple times a day every day, and it gets about as old as you are near the end of life. This videos statement is very accurate.
Bonk
"Food is the best thing in life, no other bodily pleasure is that good and never gets old" Me: "Well there is another...."
did anyone notice the T cell at 9:45?
I like how they explained why people are hesitant to give up their meat eating. It was very even handed and empathetic.
It really is part of our culture. Most of us (if not everyone) grew eating meat just like any other food, it's hard to see what's wrong with it cause we're actually attached to it. An even debate comes from a mutual understanding of both stands and context, so yeah I totally appreciate them adding it
Absolutely, they did a great job!
It's a shame we can't see the dislike ratio. I'm curious how well empathy affects public viewing of the video.
@@ZeoWorks 286k like and 8.4k dislike, so it is good response?
@@ZeoWorks Use the extension
@@cristiansantander4003 and is healthy to include meat in your diet
you guys should make a video on fish and the effects of the fishing industry on climate change
fishing industry seems to be moderately climate friendly I think .
Focused on Europe, because there's the strongest impact and all the horrible stuff really
In the US Northwest. The fishing industry is broken. The waters are vastly overfished, and the current regulations focus on taking the exact maximum we can from the water which prevents populations from growing. Then you add in illegal fishing from foreign countries to fuel the fishing industry and all of a sudden that very careful balance act is now decreasing populations.
Add in the focus on larger fish meaning smaller fish survive to breed, meaning future generations are on average smaller. Smaller and fewer predator fish mean marine mammals like otters and sea lions shift to eating more shellfish, which is what young predator fish rely on in their youth, resulting in mor problems.
As a fisherman, I hate to admit it, but the fishing industry needs to shut out wild caught fish for probably 30-40 years and focus on farming shellfish, kelp, and algae to allow fish populations to stabilize and flourish and repair aquatic biomes.
But, you can't shake the dislike of fish farming. Hell, my neighbor has a sign that says "Friends don't let friends eat farmed fish."
I totally agree
Was litteraly just going to comment this. It is such an overlooked part of pollution and climate change.
I have a doubt at the moment 4:46, it is said that it is more efficient to ship internationally than locally, is that true? In the end the international shipment by ship has to be taken to warehouses and for that trucks are used. 🤔
The comparison is between total emissions for 1kg of avocados shipped over a very long distance (one of the worst case scenarios) vs best case scenario for 1kg of beef. The point is that even if you are biased in favor of meat, you'd have to accept that plants are generally much less impactful.
"Could that title BE any longer?" ... Loved that
Thanks for touching on the transportation problem. I hear that argument a lot. The whole buy local gripe. I did research on that myself years ago. Depending upon how local stuff is distributed, there are efficient ways of doing it, but the common farmers market is so bad you might as well put your grapes or lettuce on a private airplane and send it to the other side of the planet. Its stupifyingly bad. Transportation of food across the globe is insanely efficient.
Is that not true for all foods though? Getting it from the farm to the port or to the local shops after it has been transported by sea must still be pretty inefficient? I didnt really get this part in the video, they seemed to miss it out entirely for the avocados and just talk about shipping emissions?
@@bethgodley2930 I was thinking the same thing. Yeah, it's incredibly efficient to send things by sea. But the fact of the matter is if you replaced those avocados with beef, it'd be the exact same amount. And the journey of plants doesn't end at the harbor. They're immediately unloaded from the ships and into trucks, which then take it inland to wherever. Sure, if you grow the produce on the shoreline, load it into a ship, and have someone eat it literally as soon as it gets off the ship, then it's more efficient. But at the end of the day, after traveling by boat, all produce has to move just as far, if not farther then it would if farmed locally.
But havn't the food shipped across the globe the same problem for the last kilometers ? Or is it that because all food transport have the same probleme at the end, the efficiency of ship transport make this part not even worth considering ?
Yeah, that’s the spirit! Local, independent farmers who don’t have access to 80,000 ton freighters should go sod themselves; how DARE they try to make a living by hauling their goods to local markets with the vehicles they have available?! We should get all our food from multi-national, multibillion dollar agri-corporations instead! The audacity of those yokels!
@@etiennedud
The point is that destroying the global food market to save a tiny fraction of emmisions isn't worth it
I'd like to see a video about farming practices in general. From hydroponics, to farm land with fertilizers, to no-till organic living soil. As well as the implications and viability of the various approaches. Where is humanity headed in that respect?
death eventually at some point regardless of how green we go we need to expand out of the planet at some point or the human race will go extinct and nothing will ever know it or this planet ever existed
That would be an interesting video
@@randomcallum We don't deserve to expand until we learn to stop torturing and killing people and animals. Also, fixing this planet would be a lot easier than moving to another one. Taking everyone away on millions of rocket ships seems unlikely. We would also need to change the climate on the planet we plan to move to. It would be a lot easier to positively change the climate on our own planet, which is already almost perfect.
@@thetexasbuttholeticklingba5770 in reality, when we talk about "going to other planets" we talk about found a planet suitable for human life, colonize it and let the human species trive there while the rest of it dies in the earth
@@thetexasbuttholeticklingba5770 Torturing yes, killing, no. A quick and painless death for an animal that wouldn't even exist, were it not for being farmed, and which would likely not get such a calm demise in the wild, is morally fine. Horrible conditions and panicked or painful slaughter methods are obviously amoral and need to end, though (which will likely necessitate everyone eating less meat and paying higher prices for it). I agree we need to focus on the home we evolved for, but it's not actually a zero-sum game - we could be learning the best way to expand and starting the process while also enacting what we need to do to save the Earth from ourselves.
Without flesh man no longer evolved as he is today😄
I did , I am a vegetarian, all people in my culture are vegetarian and all of them are above 6ft and really smart ,
I don't hate non vegetarians but it's not true that meat is necessary for us
@@aayushdalal3771 Vegetarians eat a large amount of animal products.
Dairy, eggs, cheese, etc...
That is a large amount of bioavailability compared to plants only.
@@janieswanson2549 yes I do eat eggs , milk , cheese , they are necessary
@@aayushdalal3771 Flesh and/or animal products from animals are what evolved the human race.
You being vegetarian now has nothing to do with the meat your distant ancestors ate to evolve.
Your comment doesn't mean anything to the original commenter.
hey how did the avocados get on the ships? I guess those trucks weren't local or something.
Good job with an honest take on the issue. Even cop26 left out the huge issue with food
cop26 was a fig leaf, an embarrassing attempt to convince the public that the powers that be are definitely doing something about this whole climate problem.
Cop 26 was a huge clownfest, just a blame game between developed and developing nations.Our doom is already decided, nothing can be done, climate change will just become a huge geopolitical tool to gain power and influence in modern world with nothing being done actually about it.Human greed will triumph over mother nature.
I @@oasntet
Kurzgesagt is always great with showing reality and the true problems
COP26 was a COP OUT with all the grime and filth of the fossil fuel industry hidden behind feel good namby-pamby rubbish!
“The reality… well… it’s complicated”
Even out of context, this is true
the only true words in this vid🤷🏼, i think, i love this words.
@@lordoa bill donated to kurzgesagt.
@@gettingnew500 They said they'll stop doing sponsors for climate vids just because of how conspiracy-like people like you are with Bill. (Ur in denial yup!)
your answer is to complicate for me, am german.. google can not translate your shorts.. sry
@@MewPurPur bill donated in 2015, 49 months long, total 570.000
but thats not a huge sum, to me, it is just a friendship gift..
In between, there is a video of Kurzgesagt that Bill has commissioned about the climate and such, on his page, you cannot link it here and the subscribers / followers haven't seen it. The same arguments as here at MeatHate, nearly. bill and kurzgesagt's CEO love each other. And 'u?
I've never had anyone tell me I can decide for myself.
11:36 hey psst there still a few extra shiny calendars left
"no other bodily pleasure is enjoyed multiple times a day and never gets old"
Not with that attitude lol
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Sam from Half as Interesting: "biphasic sleep"
Here for this comment xD
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since when do i have 233 likes what happened
"You can decide for yourself what you want to do with this information." This is why I respect this channel. In the end the biggest difference can be made through education. People need to buy in to a choice to turn things around. And no matter how much you may disagree with dissenting voices or how much the research contradicts them, they are a necessity. Some ideas that were radical and shunned in the past have proved to be important. For as much ignorance, conspiracy theories and blatant political propaganda there is out there, having a world in which that can exist is more important than one where we weed it all out under the pretense of knowing the absolute truth. This channel informs and then invites you to research and form your own opinion, it doesn't tell you what you ought to believe. To truly believe something, you have to arrive at it yourself to some extent. Good work.
You can decide for yourself what you want to do with this cherrypicked information. Ok, thanks.
Climate policies will decide for you when meat is banned
Pee
@@matijakovacic1730 It isn’t cherrypicked, it specifically answers the question posed in the video with named sources you can check for yourself. You sound angry that you now have to acknowledge the objective damage that human agriculture brings, as we all should.
@@matijakovacic1730 I guess somebody likes meat in their mouth LOL
There's a lot of cherry picking going on that people aren't picking up on...
They talked about how all land used for grazing isn't necessarily suitable for other uses, but don't mention that feed used in animals isn't necessarily edible for humans?... The reason why I ask this is that animals have always been and will always be better than humans at processing raw foot materials because they have entire bodily systems to do so for them, whereas us humans literally just use fire.
Let's not mention the lack of in depth look into how veggie patties may affect us compared to meat patties. I'll stick to eating a piece of a cow anyday than stuff something as heavily processed as a beyond meat patty.
The land used for grazing can be used for human agriculture
Your point about beyond meat is right however the patty is getting less and less processed
@@masterzzz1266 Grazing land is usually incapable of growing cash crops.
So unless you enjoy eating hay...
FINALLY! I’m not the only one who sensed bias in the video
I think that beef is not have large impact on emission when we compare it with Factories
Yes but compared to other meats it is
I find potatoes to be my favorite plant to eat. You can cook them in dozens of ways, they contain most of the nutrients vital to our diet, and can easily have flavor added to them with spices and salts. Try them mashed with cheese, onion/onion powder, and a little bit of salt. Youll be shocked at how quick a bland food can be tasty as hell.
Or in the words of samwise gamgee:
"PO-TAY-TOS Boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew!"
Interesting! I've never heard anyone say that the humble, tasty spud contains "most of the nutrients vital to our diet" before!
Guy, potatoes drain all the flavours from everything. Especially mash.
yeah, especially besides a good portion of meat.
@@MrZxcvbnm22 steak oh mai
The basic answer to every Kurgezast video:
"Well, it's complicated"
Well not in this one, this time he distinctly says veggie diets are better for the enviroment 💁🏽♂️
Isn't everything complicated?
Isn't everything complicated?
this one was very straightforward suprisingly... a plant based diet is the least destructive option.
@@Sirusf I agree that everyone should strive to eat a plant-based diet and minimize their consumption of red meat/beef products, not so much for health reasons but for environmental reasons. And of course there is the animal justice issue of consuming products from CAFOs.
Edit: just to clarify, I believe red meat to actually be very healthy, as long as it's raised in a natural, grass-fed manner, so that's the reason I say "not so much for health reasons". But ofc artificial hormones are used in corporate beef raising, plus they are fed grain in place of grass, a non-natural food source; and I doubt either are great for our bodies. So while it's not practical for everyone to switch over to 100% plants-only diet, I definitely support encouraging everyone to limit consuming beef and meat products from industrial farming sources, if at all possible.
Hey how did the avocados get to the ships? It must have been those non-local trucks, huh.
Also, avocados are usually grown whee it's warm to ensure good harvests, however those are often the same areas that need irrigation, which in itself then exacerbates water shortages.
I still don't understand one thing. Why is meat emitting co2 when it's all organic? Whatever co2 meat production emits, it should be re-absorbed by the crops those animal eats in a circle. So it should be a 0 emissioni business. By intuition I would say that the actual issues are the non circular practices, like the destruction of co2 rich forests for building farmland and the massive usage of artificial fertilizers in the crop industry (that are produced out of fossils). Not the meat per se. Shouldn't these be the real target of our sensibilization efforts? Granted without those we will produce way less meat (because we will produce dramatically less vegetables overall too), but I fail to see how an agriculture without animals (and the natural fertilizers they provide) can really be circular and sustainable. Can someone explain?
youre totally right.
i say it like this: cows are carbon neutral.
Even if the cycle is closed, adding cows to that cycle means there is at any time more methane in the atmosphere than without those extra cows. Take this for example:
There are 100 cows on earth that produce 100 units of methane per day.
Everyday 10% of that methane is converted to CO2.
The amount of methane in the atmosphere now rises to the point where the 100 units added by the cows is balanced with the 10% that are converted back to CO2.
That means, when the amount of methane in the atmosphere reaches 1000 units, the cycle is in balance.
If you now add 100 more cows, all cows together will now produce 200 units of methane each day.
So the amount in the atmosphere increases, until it balances out again. Meaning it will rise until there are 2000 units of methane in the atmosphere.
This is of course simplified, but should give a general overview. Without those cows, the Carbon would be stored inside plants. Either in forests or sparsley grazed grasslands.
@@chimp09 You didn't factor in the emissions caused by stopping meat products. Very biased of you.
You do realize plant waste (the stuff that is inedible to humans) would either be incinerated or sent to landfills where they will create methane, CO2, and NO2 in far higher concentrations? Right?
Why do you use animal products needlessly while pretending to be against it?
I know you won't answer this and instead will evade the simple question, ignore the simple question, babble nonsense about a doctrine, and/or some other nonsense non-answer.
@@janieswanson2549 if you can't understand simple concepts like this, you can always try to ask instead of showing your ignorance, you know. ;)
Would of liked to have seen some kind of discussion or acknowledgement about how much of different types of food are wasted and sent to the dump and their effect on CO2 emission. I know grocery stores don't sell all their meat or produce for example and have been caught throwing away massive amounts of food and then there are restaurants to consider as well and household waste.
saying they get caught implies they're doing something wrong. the reason they do that is because the government will fuck them if they give out food that makes people sick.
@@WapitalismandWreedom not just bad food, just vegetables that are bruised or look weird are thrown out. though that's also the consumer's fault for refusing to pick vegetables that are perfectly edible and healthy but just look weird
@@WapitalismandWreedom They could give the food away before it expires but our society has this fucked up system where it is better to throw away food to preserve profit. Not just food though billions possibly even trillions in all goods are destroyed every year. There is SO much waste in our economy. I can't imagine what the environmental impact of that is.
@@WapitalismandWreedom The government can easily introduce policy that says "you can not sue for donating unsold food". France did it in 2016. The real problem is the suing culture in certain countries.
@@Silmerano It's called Capitalism.
Waste management of cattle farming is also a big concern for the neighbouring areas. The waste is also released into the nearby water bodies. The animals are sometimes made to live in their own waste as well.
and untreated animal poop is what contaminates crops and makes the e.coli outbreaks :L
@@chlorhex6785 the eu are making us all buy dribble bars now instead of splash plate on slurry spreaders which has next to no smell, like u wouldnt smell it if u werent working in the field
its illegal to let the slurry go into water bodies in any first world country, idk about 3rd world countries but u cant rlly blame everyone for that anyway u should already know a place like brazil is nothing like ireland or something
@@joeschipper2593 in brasil, at least where my grandpa has his ranch cow poop does not get used for anythging they just leave it in the field, so idrk if the contamination of the waterbodies is a big problem there
@@iancauematosdorea9692 yeah the same here in Uruguay, there are 3 and a half cows per person so you can imagine that's a lot of shit
The music, 9 minutes in... I noticed. Gerudo Valley theme.
I love it.
Please do a part two on the future of farming, lab grown meat, how space colonies will eat, and potential alternatives to food in the future.
Yes,much needed indeed!💚
What a good idea! I'd love that!
A potential alternative is *don't eat meat*. At the same time, murder is being halted.
@@sebastianmcaleerelkjr6927 How is lab-grown meat murder? Hello???
Space meat blob. Just grow in all directions xD
"Well clearly science can give us an answer!"
* everyone turns to look at science *
Science: "...It's complicated."
well at least science speaks truth haha
Science is legally not allowed to be simple
Idk, the conclusion seemed pretty straightforward. The reduce your environmental impact, eat as much plant-based food as possible.
ask jesus/god instead! what does the bible say about man made climate change!!!
@@van7111 You can increase your environmental impact reduction exponentially by eating other large environmentally impactful humans. So simple, so bentbackward.
My God the opening question: does our diet really play a role in climate change?
The inquisitors are alerted.
It really doesn't. The biggest thing that plays a role is the fossil fuel we use. Eating meat is not one
@@Kuplpa How did you come to that conclusion
The carbon footprint on Lamb from New Zealand sold in the UK including the travel was still less than UK Lamb, a few years ago. Farming emissions vary from country to country. We've been told New Zealand with 5million population grows food that feeds 40million people, but the carbon footprint stays with NZ, I don't think that's fair. NZ has more carbon efficient farming and it's getting more efficient by the year.
"The more the animals suffer the better they are for the environment". What a bitter truth to start the day with!
I urge people to read up on factory farming conditions. It's truly terrible what conditions some of these animals are subjected to, and as this video points out, it's not really feasible for everyone to eat meat from animals raised more ethically.
Luckily there is an option that is the best for animals and the environment
@@lauritswrang2423 not eating them at all ;)
@@AyahuascaSage they made a video about it
@JTH eating humans