5x115 vs 5x114.3 Explained & Ruff R1 Racing Fitment Issue Follow Up
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- čas přidán 19. 01. 2020
- Brian talks about 5x115 vs 5x114.3 lug patterns, and how he resolved his Ruff R1 Racing wheel fitment issue by redrilling.
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Wish all videos were like this! No bs back stories no one wants to hear just straight to the point. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Good video. And i definitely understand the part where you waited a year to put the "brand new wheels" on and come to find out,.... 1 wheel is a different lug pattern "which is the company's fault and won't take responsibility." You would think all 4 would be the same but apparently not.... lesson learned, 👍👍👍
Just the video I needed. Thank you!
Thank you for making this video
Twenty eight thousandths of an inch difference overall, do not forget to divide by two which is fourteen thousandths of an inch. WoW, that could very well be a tolerance on the print for the machinist to get away with that for sure. But without the ring and the first bolt tight intend you bring back the error to total and you have an issue for sure. What you said is fact. This video covers the information very well. Peace. VF
Thanks; just bought an older equinox, & had winter rims off our old tribute. Didn't want to pay for new rims or spacer adapters if I didn't have to
Very informative, thanks dude.
Great video. Thanks 🙏🏼 🤩
Just watched this, also a Minnesotan so that was randomly cool bonus to the information you provided!
It was actually where my family went! I moved from MN when I was pretty young to Florida and haven't left
Great video man! I live in the Apopka area. I have a Buick Century that has 5x115 and I'm having a hard time finding some affordable rims. Now I know what to do if I get 5x114.3. keep up the videos.
Same here. I'm 5x115 on a caddy but I see some nice 5x114.3. So will I need to get them drilled or anything?
Well damn! Thats my neighborhood! I'm a car guy that lives at the front of the neighborhood and have a 911 and am building an ls1/t56 swapped BMW e36. Didnt think we had a lot of car guys in this neighborhood!
It will be short lived, were actually moving next Monday! Our new neighborhood is 2 down from ours right now though, so you might still see us around
Thanks for the great information
Great info. I run 5X114.3 on my Impala witch is 5X115 and not a single issue nor vibration. Hub centric rings and pay close attention to back spacing and you good to go usually!
I have the same set up same car where did u get the hub certric ring
What year is your impala
@@Cammedhemi I have a 2003
What rings do I need to get then
@@dylancoffee8091 did you ever find out what size rings you needed I have the same car
Thank you, i got a Hyundai 5x114.3 and i have a set of 5x115 wheels on stock. I will use them now,
Glad I could help!
Thank you, I got Cadillac CTS 115 rim, now I'm going to use for my KIA 114.3.
I ran mustang rims on my gxp for three years with 4 degrees of camber and AMPLE amounts of burnouts lol never had one issue.
2006 Buick allure 5x115 using 5x114.3 for over a year. The tried to put on 5x115 winter tires and all my studs were off!
Thank you 🙏
Any time!
Perfectly explained. Thank you. Next video don't play catch and go for a run with your dog before having him hold the camera haha a tripod would really make this a quality video.
I do like Doug though lol
Glad to see this vid! Im looking at some 5x115 wheels that are 20in. Most designs i see i dont like for my 12' RT charger. Im looking at American Racing VN507 wheels, but they only make 114.3 wheels. The hub bore is also 72.6. I can get hub rings to bring it dwn to 71.6 to the stock bore, but whats your opinion on having hubcentric rings and using wobble bolts? Its a 0.07mm difference but want to make sure im not going to die. Worst thing i can do is get American Racing to build the wheels 5x115 i guess. Im also a Tampa Bay Local and frequent O town alot, you should host or guest host a meet if possible. I love your charger btw! Keep up with the vids!!
Super glad this video was helpful! I think that's exactly the right steps, basically using the right sized rings that get you to your Charger's hub size helps the wheel mount centered on the hub instead of centered around the lug (which is exactly how I have these Ruff Racing wheels mounted, since CarID shipped me 5x114.3 wheels and the right sized rings, so I'll trust that the manufacturer knows what they're doing). Maybe when we get some more followers we'll co-host a meet ;)
Wait, NOTW, I know this is an old post, but isn't your 2012 Charger 114.3, so those AR VN507s would fit just fine. I thought 5x115 only came out in 2015 with the new body style? I could be mistaken.
@@pdiz the chargers has a 115 pattern since they came back in 06
Hey gt1564 , I know it has been awhile since you posted your reply here on CZcams but I am in the same situation as you were , I have a 2018 Challenger R/T with the exact same wheel specs , and the American Racing VN701 wheel would look great on my car.
Could you please share with me your experience with your wheel set up and the hub centric rings.
Any info would sure help......Thanks Buddy.
My rpf1 are 5 lug but they dont fit on my dsm eclipse... idk the pattern but they're 17" ... my 16" fit perfectly... is it a different pattern?
Idk if you are still looking at questions but I have a 2007 dodge charger that's has a 114.3 pattern qnd.im.looking at some srt8 wheels for the same year but it says the srt has a pattern of 115. Since it's pretty much the same car I don't think there should be much difference right? BTW nice video.
Yup that's exactly right, and thank you!
will 5x100 bolt pattern car fit 5x105 rims??
hello love your videos and would like your advise as to weather these wheels will fit my charger am having a hell of time try to find fitment ?XXR 531 18X11 5-100/5-4.5 20 Offset 73.1mm
5-100 would be different from 5-4.5. 4.5in = 114.3mm, which is perfect, but 5x100mm lug pattern would definitely not fit, and wheels that size would need replaced or redrilled
The video I needed to see. I was so stuck. I have 5x115 stock wheels from my old GM and I want to put them on my 5x114.3. The hub center bore is 70.3mm on both. Is that a common thing? No hub centric rings needed I guess. Thank you sir. Liked and sub’d
Can I use 5x11.5 on my mustang 5x11.4 I’m still trynna figure it out
What bolt pattern does my Dodge Charger rt 2014 have? Will it fit 114.3?
So I have a set of Variant wheels that are 5x114.3 and now own a 21 charger that is 5x115. Spent a ton on the 2020 mustang wheels when I had a mustang and want to use them for the Charger. What hubcentric ring would you suggest?
When you find out what kind let me know also please
Great video, didn’t know if you noticed but when you are referring to the lug pattern you say 1x114.3 and 1x115 instead of 5x114.3 and 5x115, just thought it was funny and if anyone else noticed! Great vid though
Yeah you're the first to point it out... I wrote it in the script that way a bunch of times and then just read it straight and didn't realize till a few weeks lol
Thanks for the reply, great info, and I understood what you meant! Crazy what the mind will do sometimes. Keep it up brotha
ima different style guy im gettin a taurus (5x114.3) and i cant find any nice 24s for it. I find hella nice 24s that are 5x115. Thanks for this video🔥
me too , i have an 08 sebring and wanna fit 2017 300 wheels on it if i can
@@MrKitty707 i switched from a taurus to a malibu so quickly 😂😂😂 lmk how it turns out post a vid of it on ur channel if u wanna
did you ever fit those wheels? how is it now
Ok, thank u for your video, what’s appropriate size to hub centric ring for convert my car has 5*114.3 to my wheels has 5*115.
You're looking for rings that fill the gap, or adapt, your cars hub size to your wheel's hub size. For example, my 2018 Dodge Charger has a hub bore/center bore of 71.5mm, and my wheels have a 74.1mm hub, so I would need these hub rings amzn.to/3uibkdX . I can find this for my car by Googling "dodge charger 2018 hub size". The wheels should list this in their own specs list.
Maybe you can answer my question, I have a 2015 Camaro and bought the Ruff R1 size 20 wheels. I got them installed by a shop a few years ago. I went to get new breaks and the guys couldn’t find my wheel key and told me that I needed a specific key that they don’t have. I’ve been searching online and can’t figure it out (I don’t know much about cars). Do you know what type of Key I need?
Sadly no, so what you need is a special socket basically that matches your lug nuts. Usually these are called wheel locks, so the key you need is going to be specific to whatever lug nut/wheel locks you have. You might have to take your car somewhere that knows how to take them off without a key
My Chrysler 300 has a bolt pattern 5x115 but the wheels I’m geting are 22 inch 5x114.3. What size hub centric rings do you think I should get ? Thank You.
It will depend on the wheels itself and their hub size, but essentially you need to adapt the wheels' hub size to the hub size on the car
I currently have a 2019 Dodge Charger with 5x115 bolt pattern and I have some offset 5x112 bolt pattern , any suggestions on which way I should go about installing them ? , thank you in advance .
Those ones will be too different and you'll need to get them redrilled if you're set on using those wheels. Any good wheel machine shop near you should be able to redrill wheels for much less than new wheels would cost
Hey can you use the same lugnuts or is some there kind of modification needed?
You'll need just whatever lugnuts you'd normally need for the car, which for modern Chargers is m14 x 1.50, nothing special
hi my friend,so if my car has 5x114.3 i can fit 5x115 wheels as long as i fit the correct hub centric ring? how about the bolts? thanks! waiting for your reply!
Yup that's right! The lug nuts will be whatever lug nuts your car needs still
Okay, Brian, great video. Let me ask you this. So I have a 2012 Dodge Charger which has the "old school" 114.3 pattern, but put factory OEM 18x11 Demon wheels on the rear which is 115, I believe. I didn't use hub centric rings because they're OEM wheels. Is that correct thinking? Also, question #2, is it better to put 115 on 114.3 rather than 114.3 on 115, or is it the same thing?
both lug patterns will work w the correct hub centric
@@rome062199 Okay, so the fact they're factory Dodge wheels doesn't mean squat because the hub sizes are different between the 114.3 and 115 and I should have still used the rings? Argh... Okay.
@@pdiz I would say only if the bore sizes are different then yes
All LX platform cars, Magnum, challenger, 300, charger etc of any year/generation is listed as 5x115. There is no "old school" 5x114.3 listed for those cars fyi. I dunno who told you that
@@cocainechestpains Just misinformation on the Internet. There's a few websites out there that show 114.3 for the 2011-2014 Charger, and 115 for the 2025+. Not sure they went out of their way to state that, but no issues at all with the factory Demon wheels on my 2012 Charger, so I guess I'm good and it was misinformation. Thank you.
Do you have a link to the rings you bought? I have a 115 pattern but looking at 114.3s so same situation.
My wheels came with the correct rings, but the rings you need will need to match your own wheels. You can think of the rings like adapters; you're wheels have one hub size, and your car has another hub size, so you just need rings that make both sides work. The won't necessarily be the same ones I'm using
Am I able to put 17x7 5x114.3 wheels on a 2000 Honda crv?
I have a challenger, same bolt pattern as your charger. I came across some Kansei KNP 18x9.5 wheels unfortunately they’re 5x114.3. What should I do? Will just a hub centric ring really work? I know for our cars we can’t use wobble bolts either.
Yup! Just make sure you use the right rings, and don't tighten the lugs completely the first time around. So first, tighten all lugs to like 50ft-lbs, then tighten them all to 80ft-lbs, then to 111ft-lbs and you should be set without any issues. I have no idea what wobble bolts are, but I don't think you need to do anything different anyway
Arcty did you even watch the video 🤷♂️🤦♂️
Need somebody’s opinion recently just ran into a crazy deal on some hellcat stocks that I’m trying to purchase. Wheels and tires for $850 coming off a 2016 hellcat with 1300 miles. My 09 charger rt bolt pattern is 5x114.3 would I be able to slap these on my vehicle with out damaging there 5x115
Yes that would be fine, they're actually an exact match despite the numbers being slightly different
Hey i bolt pattern 5x115 .. trying to get wheels for it is kind of hard all wheels that I want is 5x114 . I’ve Ben second guessing if dey will for or not .. but after seeing this video I think ima go with 5x114 n see if fits . After seeing dis video I think dey will
They end up fitting?
Got 285/45R22 on truck ,will 285/45R22 114v ,,work
Greetings, so if I have a 5x114.3, and want to buy rims 5x115, which one of the hubcentric should I buy?
I want to know the same thing too
Me too..
The difference is stud size 115 had bigger studs then 114.3 as you can see in the measurement.
you can fit 114.3 on 115 if you bore out the stud holes to fit the 115's larger stud.
you can fit 115 on 114.3 if you have the right lug nuts and rings to keep them straight or else you will be rolling up and down on axle. center hubs and smaller studs
Where t can I find those hub centering ring?s
Okay I have a question maybe someone who can answer for me. I've got my old Donut for my Dodge Charger and I want to put it in the trunk for my new Kia Optima it did not come with a donut I don't want to spend money on a new donut and I wanted to know just an emergency situation could I just bolt on that donut with these two different lug patterns? That's what I need to know
So if my car is 5x115 and the rims im tryna buy are 5x114.3 what size of hub centric rings do i need?
Hub size is dependent on the hub size of the car and the wheels, and that's a number that will differ per car and wheel. For example, my Charger has a "center bore" of 71.6mm, but the wheels I bought has center bore of 74.1mm, so I would need hubcentric rings that adapt 74.1mm to my car's 71.6mm, which CarID included when I bought the wheels, but you can find your rings on Amazon, etc.
Ok so I have a 5x114.3 and I’m trying to put on 5x115 will it work
Yes
What's the link for the hub centric rings? I have a 2010 dodge charger, looking at 5x114.3.
It depends on the hub size of the wheels as well. My wheels came with the correct rings for themselves and for my car
Can you add pictures of the modified wheel, with re drilled hole(s)?
Sure can! I’ll get it off soon for an upcoming video and take a picture during that and post the link
I have 5x114.3 rims and 5x115 car bolt pattern what size hub centric rings do I need?
You're looking for rings that fill the gap, or adapt, your cars hub size to your wheel's hub size. For example, my 2018 Dodge Charger has a hub bore/center bore of 71.5mm, and my wheels have a 74.1mm hub, so I would need these hub rings amzn.to/3uibkdX . I can find this for my car by Googling "dodge charger 2018 hub size". The wheels should list this in their own specs list.
What bolt pattern are those wheels on the car in this video
They are listed as both actually
If my car fits 5x114.3 and I wanna put 5x115 what size hubcentric rings size would I need
You're looking for rings that fill the gap, or adapt, your cars hub size to your wheel's hub size. For example, my 2018 Dodge Charger has a hub bore/center bore of 71.5mm, and my wheels have a 74.1mm hub, so I would need these hub rings amzn.to/3uibkdX . I can find this for my car by Googling "dodge charger 2018 hub size". The wheels should list this in their own specs list.
So what size rings will I need for five by 115 to 5 by 114.3 please somebody help much appreciated
Depends on the hub bore size of your car and the center hole of the rim itself. Gotta search the size of ur car hub bore size and look at the size of the center hole of the rim u wanna get
So I’m ok running 5x114.3 mustang wheels on a charger with 5x115 ??
Exactly
How do I know what hub centric rings to get? I have 5x115 rims & my pattern is 5x114.3.
You need to find ones that fit your cars hub size on one side, and your wheels hub size on the other, they're essentially adapters
For example, my 2018 Dodge Charger has a hub bore/center bore of 71.5mm, and my wheels have a 74.1mm hub, so I would need these hub rings amzn.to/3tjnRfC
I have a 5x114.3 bolt pattern
Will 5x115 fit on my q50?
Yes it should as long as u put the right hub centric rings, my dad put a 115 rims on his 03 crv which is a 114.3 and there was no problem with it
If anybody knows what hub rings to use on my 5x114.3 to install 5x115 wheels , please let me know
Find out the bore of your hub on your car and then find out how large that center hole is on your aftermarket rim.
I have a 392 Charger and if you have the link to thr hub centric rings if you could help me out and drop the link 💙
It will also depend on the wheels you have. The rings are basically just an adapter. Your wheels will have one hub size and the car will have a different hub size, and you just need to find the rings that adapt the wheel to your car. The hub size (or center bore) of the charger is 71.5mm
can i put 5x114.3 wheel spacers in 5x115 hub??
I would say *maybe*, for the same reasons wheels are okay, but because wheels spacers are already questionable I would probably try to get the correct wheel spacers (and also make sure you get replacement studs of the proper length)
I have a Chevy Impala with 115 and I got a 1/4.3 wheel I'm having hard time centering up is anyone know what the issue is
Did u use hub centric rings?
Great video! Very helpful.
I purchased some Ferrada FR-4’s (staggered)for my Camry TRD which runs a 5x114.3 lug pattern. However, the front wheels (19x 8.5) came in a 5x120 lug pattern. The wheels were re-drilled to fit the 5x114.3 by a machine shop. Will this cause any stress or damage to the bolts and or compromise the drivability of the car? Given that my car is front wheel drive.
Or should I just purchase the two wheels with the true lug pattern for the car?
I got a really great deal on the set so I couldn’t pass up the opportunity.
You’re input is greatly appreciated!
If trust the place that redrilled them, then they should be totally fine, especially since redrilling wheels appears to be pretty well understood by competent machine shops. One of my rear wheels are redrilled and I've had no issues
I am waiting on a set of rims. My bolt pattern is 5 x 114.3. They say 5 x 115 is interchangable. I am not happy. I could not believe it when my receipt said 5 x 115. Hub rings are supposed to be included. Do not go through what I am going through. Specify IN ADVANCE correct bolt pattern. I even called MRR wheels, and they say they are interchangeable. Man I hope they fit ok.
They will, the size difference are basically just a metric conversion and back with precision loss from rounding. As I said in the video, manufacturers list the same wheel under both sizes
@@VeryGoodGarage Thank You brother, it is just an extra worry I did not need. A third of a millimeter on each side is pretty small. I will update as they should be on Monday afternoon. Peace!
@@VeryGoodGarage I will probably get some wobble lug nuts, though they may not be needed.
I looked in your car next to me the account in oviedo jejeje nice
That's awesome, the stickers are working :)
I thought the chargers had a bolt pattern of 5x115?
They do
@@The1Karking correction , all 2014 and up are no 5x115.... 2013 and below are 114
What about 5x120.65s on a 5x120 hub
Sounds like the same type of deal, just make sure get correct hub rings that convert your wheels hub to your cars hub size, and if the wheels mount flush with no problems, you're probably alright
WOW '
What hubcentric rings for wheels off a 02 Acura MDX to a 2012 Charger! Please
How about 120 wheels on 114.3
Definitely not, you'll have to get those redrilled somewhere so they can fit. In my experience, getting the wheels redrilled has been significantly cheaper than buying new wheels
Can I put 114 rims on 114.3 bolt pattern hub?
Are you sure it's not 115? What are 114s originally for? If they are actually 114s then they should also fit just fine, they'd actually be even closer to perfect than the 115 to 114.3
114.3 and the rims I want is 114
Yeah that should work for the same reasons, they might even just be rounding it weirdly
So the .3 in my 114 doesn’t matter?
Not in my opinion, that's the subject of this video actually, but rather about the .7 difference vs your .3 difference
Which rings
It depends on the hub size of your car's hub and the size of the wheel's hub. The rings are the adapter that adapt your wheels to your car.
Its a gamble really. Plenty of guys running 5x114.3 wheels on 5x115 bolt patterns for years with no issues, however others do experience vibrations or broken wheel studs.
Just take them to a shop and have them redrilled to the proper bolt pattern for peace of mind.
I have a 5x114.3 bolt pattern and I’m try to fit 5x115 bolt patten . Help
You figure out anything good sir? I recently came up on this situation too
@@luizee97 same here
Anything happen?
Repping EP lol, class of o3 bradah
Lol that's actually my aunt's shirt, I'm class of '14 in FL
@@VeryGoodGarage what yr was your aunt?
I’m confused with all these mathematical numbers being thrown out nonchalantly as if I’m some extensively trained mathematician specialized in wheels !!!!
I went to dealer and asked them upgrade rims . They refused me to shop . The shop literally told me 5x114.3 is same as 5x115
So I don’t. Have to get the hub rings and if wht rings
Sooo stupid question can 114.3 be re drilled to 115???????
It's already compatible, there's nothing to redrill
@@VeryGoodGarage but for extra precaution I could have it redrilled right??
They're essentially the same already, which was the subject of this video. The actual differences between those two sizes is so small that it would be within manufacturing tolerances for either spec
Wobble bolts…
CarID are terrible with helping out the customer. Used them once and never will again
Hubcenrtics or not...5x115(that are usually dodge) will not fit 4x114.3( that are more ford's and many many other cars)....5x115 is a pattern like the ones for vw..mercedes and audi5×112.....is a pattern tgat suck balls if you stuck with those cars with 1q5 and 112
Carid lol shittiest site ever
Talked so much and didnt say shii 🤦🏾
Oh yeah? What more would you like to know?