Half scale pinsetter explained-proof of concept design
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- čas přidán 26. 06. 2018
- This is the video many have asked for. I go into specific details of how the pinsetter works. I am now patent pending and able to discuss things. Please feel free to ask any questions you have.
This pinsetter is a proof of concept design. We are now starting to build our first production prototype pinsetter and plan to debut it in October at a local mall during a home show. - Sport
Very nice lane setup. Looks like an A2/GSX pinsetter crossbreed.
Glad to see a new upload by this channel
It's like a cross between a Brunswick A2 & GSX, an AMF 82-70 Pinspotter, and a Bowl-Mor Candlepin machine!
Reasons:
1. has a GSX Pin Lift
2. has an 82-70 return system
3. has an A/A2 pin turret
4. has a Bowl-Mor candlepin turntable
The turret also looks like the Bowl-Mor duckpin machine.
That pin elevator is very similar to what I have been using on my Lego Pinsetter for quite some time. I mean, it functions the exact same way, but obviously looks a little bit different. I hope my Lego design doesn’t do anything to your patent now because I’m going to sell mine too. I really like the design.
ThinkCleverAndSmart are you selling them soon? When will that be happening?
Wow. Amazing.
Awesome!
Turret looks elegant!
Thank you. Took some work to get it all working.
@@coasterp2199 how much is the half scale pinsetter cost
do you use the 4.5 inch candle pin ball for that?
This is really awesome! I saw this on Mickey's channel. You've changed the design somewhat since that video was made. I'm wondering: First, what do you charge for one of these? And second, I understand Lind's is no longer making these half-scale pins and balls. I know of no other manufacturer who does make them at this time. Do you have a supplier to make these pins and balls now that Lind's is no longer making them? You have made a really fascinating machine here. I would love to feature it on my channel where I'm getting over 15-thousand views each week of avid bowling fans. How can I get in touch with you?
Hey Phil, Brilliant work. I've been watching this since the earlier models. Are the weights of the pins scaled down proportionally? They seem a little light.
The pins weigh about a 1/4 of what a full size pin weighs. You would expect them to be half but when you scale a item down by half, you actually end up with something that takes up a 1/4 of the full size object. I actually had a hard time wrapping my brain around that at first.
Have you considered a half size candlepin pinsetter? It would be a fun game, I think and the machine would be less complex. Ive thought about using billiard balls, but would have to make pins because i dont think half size candlepins are available anywhere
Not something I've considered due to what I feel would be a very limited market. I have been asked if I could develop a full size duck pin machine though. I actually think that might have a market and developing that machine is something I would consider. No one has stepped forward with funding for that though.
In the case of an OUT OF RANGE, does the Machine come to a complete stop when it hits that pin? Or does it raise back up?
Everything will return to their home positions.
You should make a full scale one and market it
So CoasterP, I was wondering why the Ball return system doesn't use a rubber track and motor belt ball accelerator system like the AMF 82-70s and 82-90s. I assume it would be too fast and fly off the ball return?
I looked into doing that but getting custom belts was not something I wanted to deal with. I actually have a new design for the ball lift that is much simpler than the original design. I will eventually do a video on it.
@@coasterp2199 Alright, sounds good! I'll look into it and I have hit the bell.
I know that Pin turn table from the pit you could found that on Bowl-MOR Candlepin Pinsetters you could visit "Riverwalk Lanes" CZcams channel
Could you rebuild the old Brunswick GS Sweep ?
I know a few other pinsetters have used turntables, however, they all allowed the ball onto the turntable for sorting purposes. Mine works differently, as the ball never enters the turntable area. Not sure what you mean "could you rebuild the brunswick gs sweep".
Holy shiznit I wish I owned this sadly I don't have money to buy one nor a lane or a bowling ball well it's a brunswick agsx2
Any plans to video or live stream the debut?
Hadn't thought about it. Might actually be kinda difficult to do in the mall setting but we'll see what we can work out.
I've been drafting stuff up for a much smaller model pinsetter project, using an arduino and some hobby motors and sensors. Some of my systems are fairly similar here, since it's just a hobby personal project and nothing commercial should that be okay as far as the patent stuff goes? Probably a stupid question, but I admittedly know basically nothing about patents.
As long as you are making it for yourself and not for re-sale, there is no issue. That goes for anything that is patented.
Awesome, thanks! Your lift system with the little pushers going through slots that hit the wider bottom of the pin first and push it forward is brilliant, I think on full scale setters it's just the weight of the pin that falls first and rights it but especially on the scale I'm going to be working with I don't think that alone would consistently flip them bottom-first.
Is it capable of spotting certain pins..?
No, the base model does not have that capability. It is something that could be added if a buyer wanted it but there would be additional cost associated with it.
how much to purchase one do you be able to eat manufactured suggested retail price will be in one of these units when they become available to the public
These lanes are available now. They are built to order currently. List price is $27,900.00
That's great for a $30,000 price tag though you need a coin box and maybe six player self scoring much like the old bowling games from the 50s and 60s that way I could set it up in my bar charge a buck buck 50 a game and that thing might make itself back some money in a couple years depending on how much down time it is and how much repairs I have to do on it I think it'd be great in a bar though
@@lefttheleft8934Please contact me through my website: www.ballbowler.com. I would very much like to discuss the benefits of having one of our lanes in your establishment. I also have some data on ROI I can send you.
Looks very cool! Why are there holes in the top of the pins?
They are there from another pinsetter I was going to develop. I decided not to complete that one though. Look for magnetic pinsetter videos on my channel to see what they were going to be used for.
@@coasterp2199 OK. Thanks🎳 . by the way, where did you get the pins from?
@@GraingerElectrical Linds used to sell them but no longer does. I actually sell them now. You can contact me to purchase through my website www.ballbowler.com if you're interested in purchasing.
@@coasterp2199 Yes, I'm currently having a think about getting on to add to my bowling pin collection, by the way, do you post them to the UK? Thanks
@@GraingerElectrical I typically don't ship overseas. However, I would not have a problem with shipping to the UK.
I like the idea of the ball return system, the oger. But if im being honest i would rather stick with amf design.
Don't the AMF design allow the ball on the conveyor with the pins? Sometimes you get a pin stuck in the door. This auger seems like it be faster and better if there are no pin jams in actual play.
is there an OOR cycle
Yes. Currently, when an OOR is detected, the sweep returns to it's home position automatically. This is done for the reason that this is basically an arcade game.
Oh hi
So, I are you doing
First
Congrats.
coasterp how much is the pinsetter