Zhongli Been Hiding This Secret For TWO YEARS 💀
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Man’s been telling us since day 1 “Osmanthus wine tastes the same as I remember... But where are those who share the MEMORY”
NO ONE IN TEYVAT SHARES THE SAME MEMORY AS HIM CZ THEY WERE ALTERED
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That's to much for my brain
Bruh my brain was getting goosebumps throughout the whole video.
What’s name of music 1:39
Wei you need sleep
This is brilliant. We are leaking information from the future. Will Hoyo ban us? LOL
when the world needed him the most, he returned.
feel like this comment is under each one of his videos 😆
@@beneustache2629 cuz we gained 100000 billion iq when he uploaded a new video
And now he's going to China so he can't upload for a while 🥲
There's someone every single video
Thus video has restored my faith in humanity.Its so beautiful I just couldn't hold back my tears.
This guy literally went from an exploit finder to a theory teller
Yahe literally went from being on my friend list to disappearing from it
Theory teller? Or theory archon?
Just like how TakaGG went from bug/glitch finder to Puzzle guide maker
And the best one at that.
Oh no… he still exploits the game. Cause we still playing that board game….
Remember from the 2nd story quest of Zhongli that "Rocks can store memories too but time to time those memories eroded" but think of it, Zhongli is the lord of Geo and knows everything from his experience. He knows the secret of everything and yet he's bound by a contract to silence himself from telling the truth. he's just dropping some clues in order for us slowly to get the truth of Teyvat. Just like Yanfie says "we can find and use the holes of a contract". He's helping us on he's own way without breaking the contract. And someday will know the truth of Teyvat.
Salute to him
I'm still not able to understand why zhongli hadn't known baizhu. He is the largest herbalist in liyue.
Wait, that reminds me...
Who would think that the gods are TRAITORS, min 13:04
Doesn't this mean that Zhongli may have made a contract with the tsaritsa and was tricked through it into contributing to the revolution against celestia and wants the Traveler to avoid this by reminding him of Teyvat's story?
Makes a lot sense actually, they bounded him in a way that if he spills too much beans a nail falls in liyue harbor right away...
@@youreshit4039 thank you!
Zhongli is also (to my knowledge) the only character who’s story quest name doesn’t match their constellation at all. His constellation is “Lapis Dei” but his story quest is called “Historia Antiqua”
Intresting thing to note
Neuvillette also shares this
His story quest is called diluvies
But his constellation is Leviathan Judicator
I just fact checked this
And yup, everyone's constellation does have the same name as their story quest
With the 2 dragons being the only exception
All other characters so far, including the the archons and everyone else, all have the same name for the story quest and constellation
Neuvilette admits his constellation is made up to make the melusines happy. Whos is rex lapiz trying to appease?
@@kannan07 wait wait wait.. the 7 dragons were before the Primordial One.. perhaps something to do with people being bound to fate, or constellations? Cause the 2 dragons dont align with it. I hope you understand what I mean, im not sure how to explain it in clear sense
@@Goshin89 it's entirely possible that he's trying to trick celestia
I love how his theories actually make sense and are nothing like speculations or opinions
(Well, they are speculations and opinions but my main point is that, they make sense 100%)
They are still speculation and opinion tho (that make sense)
@@schopenhauer5427 Yeah, It makes a lot of sense, Thats what I love about these videos. I don't know how this man comes up with this but he deserves better recognition for what he is doing like damn.
No it makes no sense , it is the traveller who's talking about zhongli, not zhongli himself . It is writing in the point of vue of someone else , it is not " I have done this... " It is with he . So the traveller just put all the information he's got on a character, and he resume this in there . Also , it is not the traveller who is talking on his profile page.. it is a narrator, but who is that ? So that's normal the traveller knows there is only 2 originals gods!!
@@mura4812 dude he has no idea who they are. Dude literally slept for a millennia and you expect him to know every inch and point of the archon war and the descenders? Cmon, if he knew he would have already finished his journey
@@staremperor8741 all of the informations the traveller said about archons are well known in teyvat . So yeah they know these . All of these informations are known by the traveller, because they found the information somewhere, or because they ask to the concerned person . Anyway, the traveller know a lot about teyvat , he basically know everything he collected in the archives ..
Another interesting thing about Zhongli, at the end of Liyue Quest at the Northland Bank, he says "I've *dwelt* upon this world for more than 6000 years" and not "I've lived for more than 6000 years", kind of implying it's been 6000 years since he arrived to Teyvat, not when he was born.
and something else i noticed , that the meteorite that caused the chasm is also happened before 6000 years, so is it possible that zhongli came with it or something?
@@anekiryota6049 i just hope hoyo do something about all this and not just forget about it and then just focus on the traveler journey
More on, he says on his idle line that we hear all the time! "Osmanthus wine tastes the same as I remember, but where are those who share the memory..." 📸👀 Zhongli Caught 4K
He is from Celestia not Teyvat and descended from there
which means he's even much older than the prehistoric ancient fossil he already is.. ehe
meanwhile Zhongli: *back cracks* ow
Remember guys, there are no "Maybe it's just a coincidence" in MiHoYo's stories.
They always link it up to somewhere. It's always within a full circle like Alabama family tree.
LMAO make sense tho-
chekhov's gun but its a tiny bullet hidden in the floorboards
LMAO
ur not funny lil nga @@ItsThatOneGamblerAgain
I also think Mihoyo gives us a hint that Zhongli will take a part in our future journey in Ei's voice line about Zhongli, she says "So he made his choice, but I don't think his journey will end yet", as with that I believe Zhongli will take an important part in the future, just my theory.
Probably during Celestia or Khaenriah arc
Definitely all of the Archons are since the Tsaritsa (hope I spelt that right) is going to war against Celestia. I’m sure all of them will either help fight Celestia or go against the Tsarista… or well, basically whatever Hoyo decides
@@averyk.a2938if that’s the case then i think it would make sense for the archons to fight alongside the tsaritsa.
Exactly what I was thinking and this made me so happy cos I didn't have enough of zhongli fr and I wished they gave us more zhongli content
we still don't know what is that contract of his that would 'end all contracts'
so he's bound to have more stories to come
Zhongli is just built different, so different that he can tank all the change that comes with Teyvat reality changes. If he really is a Descender, then it makes sense why he is considered (at his prime) to be the strongest Archon. You don't live 6000 years because you are weak
*EDIT:*
Ok... it has been over a year since I made this comment and the two replies I made to this comment. What drugs was I on?? I was cooking? I cooked! I cooked so much lore. CZcams randomly gave me a notification that someone liked this comment, so I click on it and... BOOM!!! I AM BLASTED WITH MY YOUNGER SELF'S 5 STAR COOKED MEAL!!! I don't remember any of this. I forgot how much I actually loved Genshin and its lore. This is all so surreal. Guys, take care of yourselves. Don't cook yourself into memory loss.
I can feel people are gonna be replying that " he was never considered to the the strongest and no archon was ever said to be the strongest in the lore ".
I can totally see all the Archons and the Traveller teaming up to fight Zhongli before they storm into Celestia. The Archons all seem to very subtly show a dislike for Celestia, even Zhongli, even though whatever is in Celestia is their boss. However, Rex Lapis is not just the Lord of Geo but also the God of Contracts. He upholds EVERY contract he makes, no matter what. I'm sure whatever the Tsaritsa is planning is something that the other Archons know so they choose play along while also playing dumb. My guess is it's an uprising against Celestia. I speculate that Zhongli is also on the Traveller's side and will help their team because most contracts have loop holes, but the core of Zhongli's contract with Celestia is to be their servant. Zhongli can serve Celestia while also sneaking around with whatever loop holes he has.
Honkai Impact (another game by Mihoyo that also goes hard with it's lore) proves that Hoyoverse can make it super badass anime style fight scene. Imagine the Raiden Shogun slashing Zhongli with her planetary destroying booba sword the same way she slashed Signora, but instead Zhongli just tanks the entire slash. He is an immortal and immovable rock. No attack can hurt him and Zhongli has huge amounts fire power of his own. Speaking of fire power, I think the Pyro Archon will be able to probably throw hands and cause noticable damage since she is the God of War. War is her thing and Pyro is all about destroying, she has unlimited fire power (literally). I dove too much into fan fiction territory with this one 😅.
I think Guizhong dies because she did an Orobashi but.... unlike Orobashi she was able to make some records in her memories of dust and Zhongli has been slowly uncovering them ever since but in the codes he finds, he can't be punished because he never speaks.
I wonder if there are clues in the mythos of the Morax of the Lesser Key grimoires that hint towards the Morax of Genshin being a descender. Morax
@@AzA609 Zhongli isn't as powerful as before tho.
@@AzA609 If Zhongli feels it right, he can sever a contract but only in death, but that's how it would be anyway, contract or no contract, any exemptions to the principles will be dealt with. I feel like this is something that will cement itself when we arrive in the nation of Natlan.
This is why Zhongli is so keen on listening to storytellers.
That actually makes sense, it's the best way to check if anything has changed - my god XD
his title is literelly "the listener"
And in most of tales told in the game lore, we can see Zhongli disproving most of them, saying that's not what happened or that he fabricated some of these tales himself
@@kalebperkasaoh my fu***ng god
YOU ARE RIGHT
JUST LIKE NAHIDA USES TALES TO REMEMBER WHAT HAS CHANGED OMG
Why is zhongli getting more and more mysterious whenever a new archon quest come out
It also adds credit to why Zhongli had the power to save Xiao in the void during the interlude
I overlooked this one. In the space when the traveler and the gang were in. Since the traveler didn't teleport out there, maybe he can't teleport out. Xiao also can't get out. But Zhongli saved Xiao effortlessly while cooly walking away
FR FR like man what type of powers do u have for u to easily do that man and he literally did it from the OUTSIDE, when we were struggling so hard to get connection even from inside lmao
@@ikeyy344 That’s such a good point… I’m honestly so convinced Zhongli is the Sun chariot or Sun shade, which closely relates to life itself. He saved Xiao in a realm you couldn’t enter normally. Though then again they are gods so maybe they’re powerful enough to do that
Strange Zhongli just teleported him and not like he make a geo elavator for him or something
Some things I noticed:
1. The things changed from zhongli's entry is not the same.... From the original seven up to position of "rulership". Which Nahida isn't really in a position of power, even up until the traveller's intervention she's more of a symbol of knowledge rather than a ruler as the Sages more or less do the ruling.
2. If zhongli is a descender, why the need for an another descender to record history? Erosion? But wouldn't that mean that other descenders are also prone to erosion? Traveller? Or much more abyss twin?
With that I thought.. Considering Zhongli knows Venti... I think this is more of that they are somewhat aware in the same way Nahida can remember scaramouche from a simple story that will make them recognize that something has changed. They're finding ways to hide stuff from irminsul, probably venti uses his bard songs. Zhongli engraving it on the earth (I guess) but well, by meeting the traveller, Zhongli just put his faith on traveller recording the history of teyvat.
Remember that it said the same before she died.
And also, he says that erosion was imposed upon him and that it is different. Most likely not even connected to memory loss
@@The_Enemy_of_Utopia. i do think it's more of the erosion is generally done by heavenly principles (or the previous translation... Natural Order of things). Especially the context of "Sealing my friend". Somewhat guilt in doing that to Azhdaha.. like maybe "God punished me for this, this is my karma" rather than a special punishment for him.
Even if nahida is not the rulership she still the dendro archon of sumeru and that still a fact. And zhongli has been trying to find a way to record things meaning hes been doing it for a long time the he found traveler that can record memories(not literally but sort of as a memory) coz perhaps hes bound to teyvat now that he also was affected by erosion imposed on him. But who knows.
zongli mybe trapped on teyvat & cannot escape, bcz too much losing memory about himself.
Also in Xiao’s second character story, it states: Rex Lapis liberated the yaksha and gave him the name “Xiao. In the fables of *another land*, the name Xiao is that of a spirit who encountered great suffering and hardship.”
holy-
I'm a huge fan of the "Zhongli is a Sun Prince" theory, if you haven't heard of it, look it up. I feel like this goes hand in hand with it. Perhaps he was disowned by celestia, and since he was originally a celestial god, wasn't connected with irminsul. This is why there is no one left to share his memories, everyone else surrounding him is subject to that change. So he's completely aware but can't tell anyone or else Liyue goes boom
Zhongli still suffers from erosion. I think he has a similar story as the sibling, where he got integrated into Irminsul at some point and now can't leave Teyvat anymore.
Yea, that sounds plausible
Come to think of it, he does say that someone *imposed* erosion upon him, more specifically *the heavenly principles of this world*
This was definitely caused by Celestia, as the only new info we have on our sibling rn is from Scaramouche's voice line abt Pierro. He knows our sibling and the reason why they landed in Khainri'ah/Teyvat in the first place was because "The Heavens responded to the summoning".
The only heavens we know of currenty are Celestia
I'm pretty sure Heavenly Principles is implied to be the cause of Archon's erosion.
He could be lying tho.. we cannot see any sign that he really is in a state of erosion.
I wanted to watch a cute theory video about Zhongli. 1 minute in and I have PTSD and cannot go to sleep anymore
So true tho your videos are honestly creeping me recently 😂
Bald Zhongli isn’t cute ???
@@_Wei Man....
@@_Wei facts frfr
@@_Wei I watched this video in bed at 11:20 PM with my lights off- I had to keep turning around to make sure that bald zhongli wasn't behind me 💀💀💀
For the first time in forever I got suspected from something before you lol. When I first played the Zhongli's story last year, two things popped into my mind:
1- Ok, you archons fear from erosion, but trusting me to record history means either you don't have much trust in Teyvat's history keeping, or you've witnessed it changing(and this is not a change in the sense of how things are getting more glamorous or more trivial, like BIG changes).
2- 6000 years old, knows suspiciously good amount of things about the Traveler & sibling but cannot say due to contract, HE HAS TO HAVE SOME EARTH-SHATTERING INFO.
If y'all have ever noticed that the ascension gems have the dialogues of their archons as their description but the geo stone has something that zhongli has never said
what does it say?
@@peace_ful_eyesWhat does It say?
This is the description for the Prithiva Topaz:
"The currencies that flow through this land are my flesh and blood."
"For thus did I become the guarantor of the people's hard work, wisdom, and future."
"This is the trust I have placed in them. Betray it, and you taint my blood."
that sounds so familiar to when zhongli said: those who break there contract shall suffer the wrath of the rock, just that if you break it you have to pay with your flesh and blood(he kill you)
Zhongli always felt kinda different.... special like VIP like no one else....he has aura around him I swear I can feel it
definitely. and he always felt like he was being more honest with us
@@em37empire like watching movie, zhongli is the narrator while things unfold.
His lore alone puts him in a different league compare to all the other archons. Also he's the only archon who didn't really needed any major help from the traveler. His archon quest is just him retiring and going incognito while testing his whole nation with a god he defeated thousands of years ago. He also knows a lot since it's hinted he knows about the other twin but made a contract to not speak about it, he also made another unknown contract with the cryo archon for the geo gnosis. Raiden's voice line about him literally says his story is not finished yet. Last but not least he's the god of china in a chinese game. This guy is probably gonna be a big villain or a big savior there is no in-between.
Well he IS a dragon and the first creatures to walk teyvat before people did were dragons 🤷♀️
among all the archons whom we met so far...venti & zhongli ARE SO SUS
they know something more than they can tell
You’re the only youtuber whose videos i put on full screen with my full focus instead of casually watching while doing other things lmao.
Same
us bro us
Yeahh
Same
same
In all his trailers for when they show Morax you can NEVER see his face while you can see the faces of the other Archons
which basically means he hasnt come clean to anybody or the travelers, unlike the others who either told some truth directly, or the traveler themselves found out wtf was going on. so iin reality, we still dont know who the hell zhongli actually is
I did write a post on Reddit some months ago saying how interesting it was for Aether and Zhongli to share so many similarities design wise. I could not remember where or when I read that thousands of years ago a meteor fell from the sky and the date seemed to coincide with when Zhongli first appeared in the Teyvat, making me wondering if he too could travel across planets like Lumine/Aether.
and his ult is a giant meteor falling from the sky, maybe paralleling how he first fell from the heavens onto teyvat
@@maplebreeze_😱😱😱
Zhongli is probably the most mysterious of all the archons
Yes he is the most mysterious character
Venti for me, but yes Morax is also sus
Barbatos and morax are just way too sus to be let alone
They know so much,but venti actively acts like he doesn't while zhongli is "bound by his contract to himself"
The 2 of the original seven were sus.
@@kriscabanglan5623 ya
The "Osmanthus wine tastes the same as I remember, but where are those who share the memory" actually makes sense now.
P.s I'm still as shocked as everyone else. Zhongli has been drilling this phrase into my mind all the time in my team. It got thinking, "Well damn, those who share the memories are ded bro." Then this video pops up then I was like DEAR MF ARCHONS so THAT could have an entirely different meaning.
holy sh!t my guy thats why he was saying that line every so often. it all make sense now,my brain is expending
So that's why they put that line on repeat so many times in his idle 🤣 they really want to drill that thought in so we don't miss it in the future
OMGG YOU'RE RIGHT!
HOLLY SHIT DUDE HOLLYYY SHIIEETTTTT
BRUH IT MAKES SENSE
That "in the beginning, Rex Lapis descended" part sealed the deal.
At first, I'd say that the keyword is "in position of rulership". Nahida wasn't counted because she was confined and Akademiya was the one who ruled Sumeru. But now that you mention it, Morax is the only name (besides "Traveler") that is "unavailable " instead of being declined.
A thing Wei missed was, in the same Character Story it states that 5 of the 7 had departed (Died, if you prefer the Chinese version)
Remember how Zhongli said "I need to find a BETTER WAY of recording history" which means He has recorded history in some way.
he could always record history even if it gets changed lol, a better way is one that doesnt get altered
he got perfect memories reputation
I mean from the very moment you see Zhongli in his trailer he is doing exactly this.
Fiction is not altered. Where does Zhongli hang out? In storyteller's bar. Where does he work? In Hu Tao's place. Who is Hu Tao? Well, coffin saleswoman, but also a poet whose works are spread all around Liyue in oral tradition.
@@xelloskaczor5051wait is that also why venti chose to be a bard? So he can have an idea of the truth because songs and tales would also not be altered?
@@variousfish6570Yes.
I think his contract (the one why he can't tell us about our twin) is also linked with him being a descender. I assume it says something amongst the lines of: "You know about the changes in Teyvat's history but are not in any way shape or form allowed to talk about knowing the truth with anyone (which includes descenders)." We also know that there is something wrong about the info of our twin in Irminsul, because the traveler has been to other worlds with them before arriving in Teyvat. I'm not sure why the history about our twin was changed but what is important is that Zhongli knows about it, knows about our twin, but isn't allowed to talk about the matter due to his contract with I assume the heavenly principles.
THAT MAKES SM SENSE
As someone who needs to maintain contracts, if he can't remember them it'd be highly hypocritical, so because of his morale he remembers
that makes a lot of sense! i was wondering who his contract was with!
@@em37empire I'm not 100% sure so don't take my word for it. It's just the most logical thing to me but again, that idea was just my last 2 braincells spitballing something remotely logical (though it would be so cool if I'm actually correct).
@@CattWithAHat okay wait you got me thinking now. this may be a stretch but it could also be the fatui/tsaritsa? because like @chnlw said in another video, they’re the ones trying to gain access to divine knowledge (irminsul) and they could potentially rewrite history. they realized zhongli wasn’t affected by the changes and had to make a deal with him. and that would also explain why the fatui have a whole bank in liyue. they need money for all their plans and who better than the dude who made all the mora. but like i said, a bit of a stretch
This does make a bunch of sense, however there is also another person we can consider a descender, no other than *Alice* .Why is she the one covering for the Wanderer’s/Scaramouches Collected Miscellany when it’s usually Dainsleif? Scaramouche did change the timeline after all, so Dain won’t know who he is. However, Alice most likely knows who he is, and considering how she’s pretty crazy in her “experiments” there’s an extremely high chance she’s the 5th descender (Zhongli being the 3rd, and Traveler being the 4th due to being in Teyvat when the fallen nation was collapsing)
Exactly bruh, and now in that hekxsinzerkl group or whatever nicole talked to the traveler as if she knew what changed, yeah they study irminsul and all but in case it changed, one of them has to notice and inform the others that shit has been altered and that someone is alice ..
I think Rukkhadevata, Egeria, and Alice are all shades of Phanes.
He does remember. I checked every character I was using one day namely Childe, Keqing, Kaeya and Zhongli after “that” Archon quest and while rereading Zhongli’s, everything is the same. He still “says” everything about Rukkha the same. Glad I was not the only Zhongli haver who noticed this
He maybe don't remember but he is the god of contracts, perhaps he notice some different in his contract or the contract have been broke.
@@anekiryota6049 no, the irminsul tree only hold information of the world, the change doesn't remake the reality of this world. What happen is real and unchangeable, remember the last scene of scara quest ? The vase is still broken, paimon just dont remember she broke it so zhongli contract may have been broken too that made him suspicious the change.
A theory: Morax is the first descender and lived in teyvat alongside other powerful gods for thousands of years. The heavenly principle descends to Teyvat around 4000 years after Morax first descend and manipulate/corrupt/dominate the gods of Teyvat to fight against each other, known as the archon war. The remaining 7 most powerful gods then given the gnosis as a gift when it's nothing but a leash and a symbol of who truly have authority over Teyvat.
It is also possible that the "archon war" is not a war of Teyvat's gods against other Teyvat's gods over the authority of Teyvat, but a war of Teyvat's gods against the invader heavenly principle, which later won by the heavenly principle where he/she rewrites the history and truly gain control of Teyvat. After all "History is written by the victors".
I'm sorry, I don't know that much from genshin lore yet, but do you think Zhongli might have ruled over the Chasm civilization and maybe Guizhong ruled over Enkanomiya and when the invaders came they nailed all those because they were loyal to the first descender. Then when they rewrote the history to be the "good guys", that's why they forbid all the ancient knowledge
I like this one
I’m pretty sure the first descender was speculated to be the celestial ones or something like that and about the war im also pretty sure it had something to do with winning authority since there’s nothing about the heavenly principles in there
I have a theory.
All the "gods" we're from another world destroyed by a plague "the heavenly principles."
So they came to tevyat.
Guzhong perhaps knew of a way to rid of the heavenly principals an so they killed her believing that now the "gods." Will now have no chance of winning. However guzhong put all of those memories in her weapon (which she gave to zhongli.) so that in an untimely death Zhongli will have a way of accessing them when the time is right.
(I personally believe that she faked her death and took on another form perhaps ningguang but won't go into that.) however it's a puzzle and zhongli hasn't opened it yet perhaps it's meant for us to open and find a way to destroy the heavenly principles at the near end of the game. Perhaps the abyss twin knows of the plague that the heavenly principles is and is working with zhongli. I also think that zhongli cannot say anything about our twin because paimon is a spy sent down.
I know that I might be missing a few things but it's a small theory.
Also bald zhongli kinda look like hawkmoth from miraculous ngl.
I'm pretty sure when Nahida told us about the descenders she speculates that the Heavenly Principles was the first descender
Now it makes more sense that Liyue used to celebrate the rite of descension, literally celebrating when Morax descended from the sky.
This reminds me of that one line that Zhongli says about Xiao and not letting Paimon eat his medicine “nothing of this world can withstand the power of _this_ medicine” idk if it means anything this just made me remember it 🤷♀️
In addition if I remember it correctly, Morax in an Archon who descend from Celestia once a Year to visit and give guidance to Liyue. The way he was introduced to us that he is falling from the sky. It maybe a symbol or a hint that he might be a descender also.
This gives his famous line a new meaning: he remembers, but others don’t
We need to drink Osmanthus wine with him so that his quote is no longer valid xD
So that’s why zhongli says “where are those who share the memory?”. He meant the memory that is unaffected by irminsul !!
Has osmanthus wine ever existed?
@Gnidel probably, since Irminsul can't change reality itself and can only alter the recorded history. (Like a computer file, deleting/changing the file doesn't mean it never existed; just that the computer can't access that file anymore because it was changed.) If for some reason the wine was erased from Irminsul, and he is a decender, then the wine whould be erased from everyone's memories, and he'd be the only one to remember it.
Or the recipe was lost, and everyone who knew about it died.
HOLY SHIT WE WILL DRINK OSMANTHUS WINE TO DEFEAT CELESTIA
I suddenly wonder, what if the memory that got altered are only people's memory and their records, but not memory from ores like the memory Kunjun read in Zhongli's story quest.
Zhongli said the better (harder?) the quality of the stone, the stronger the memory. If Zhongli is likened to an ore, wont he be the hardest stone ever? That means his memory will be the clearest. Zhongli said his memory is good and he remember all his contract, what if contract is the way he engrave memory to himself? he might actually remember all his contract, regardless if the contractor and the content is erased or changed by Irminsul. If he ever made contract with Rukkhadevata, will that contract lost or will the contractor change to Nahida? Maybe he no longer know who Rukkhadevata is, but aware that his contract changed or no longer valid.
I can't stop looking at this 0:23
When you fought Azdaha in story and after winning.
He talks with and you ask about your sibling he said he cant talk anything about him or past.
Because he was in that contract with heavenly principals before even world is created.
Zhongli is oldest Archon so he knows basically everything about past.
He knows almost everything but he cant talk because of contract.
Now, this theory is confirmed about the legends of Solar Chariot that fell to Tevyat, creating the Chasm. There's a story about how the Solar Chariot was repaired by people in Liyue and flew back into the sky. Almost sounds like it was a spaceship. This happened 6000 years ago, where Zhongli is still young. So there's a high chance that he came from outside of Tevyat with Solar Chariot.
It seems that all places where Descenders landed are significant geographically - Starfall Valley and Chasm. We should look for big holes in the ground.
@@Gnidel What about when Traveler descended? What mark did he leave behind?
@@_Nyxus_
Bruh, Starfell Valley is literally where we started the game
@@frenchrevenge6406 AFTER we "woke up." But what about before that? Especially since we learned that the twin came before us, that we were fighting in the beginning to "leave." Where did we FIRST fall?
@@_Nyxus_ Celestia. We landed together. We were held off by the Sustainer of Heavenly Principles, were we not?
Sibling was sealed away and we got knocked out. Sibling must have freed themselves way sooner than we woke up
How on earth do you link up all the tiny details and come up with such theories?!?!?! Always impressed by Wei
I still love how he still puts memes while literally going to the third dimension explaining the truth 💀
Honestly I couldn’t help but smile more and more as the video progressed, I have had the theory of Zhongli being one of the descenders before the traveler. Not only that, once I learned that Scara doesn’t let you name him “Morax” I just became more convinced. Not only that, do we even know Zhongli’s REAL origins? Venti is a wind spirit, Ei is connected to lightning and Makoto (I don’t remember her lore), and Nahida is a branch of Irmunsul.
Zhongli is probably a adeptus. But he's also referred as the prime of the adepti so he might be something higher than a adeptus.
In the Lore, ZhongLi is depicted to be a Mountain Dragon but not much is known about his life or his origins. The lore basically only focused on his time as Liyue’s Archon. Among the current Archons, he’s the most mysterious.
@@xyreanev2.067 wasn't the Mountain Dragon Azhdaha?
@@zelktheinvader7874 he's also a dragon no? I mean we literally see his dragon form in the archon quest (tho it's a fake body) , but he still a dragon.
@@velda7454 all dragons are vishaps in this game. He isn't considered as a vishap. He is called the Prime Adepti.
I read a lot of chinese webnovels and i also have a conspiracy theory... A lot of interactions with zhongli give heavy ""author/editor/reader" transmigrated into book knowing full plot" vibe... But as soon as he arrived to tevat was probably discovered and nerfed to be in bystander mode... Not being able to directly affect the flow of "the plot"/ history but using the loopholes in plots to induce small changes in characters. He's fully aware that the traveller (or abyss twin) is the book's MC or in otherwords "son of heaven" with the most "luck" as it's the "heaven's way". Maybe zhongli being able to become archon had something to do with that even though it was never meant to be, or maybe he replaced or was transmigrated into the original morax and was aware beforehand of his "death" in the plot therefore avoiding it. Maybe that's why "morax" doesn't exist anymore or had never existed in original plot.
zhongli is similar to the male protagonist in honkai openworld
Your comment opened my eyes just now.
@@lileenleen can thee see mount tai?
@@reading6914 Some have eyes but cant see Mount Tai.
@@danidan2174 FINALLY SOMEONE NOTICE IT
And with this theory, now we can conclude who's all 4 descender
1. First One Who Came
2. Second One Who Came
3. Rex Lapis / Morax / Zhongli
4. Travelers
But Traveler's twin's fate already altered so hard that it make her a non-descender
What about alice?
It doesn't make sense...Alice IS a decenders
Alice is descender
@@user-cf2kt6qb8u Alice is one of the shades of Phanes
@@ZE.brigitteZhongli could be a shade
the way Zhongli was a god even before the Seven, and how Nahida said that she doesn’t know who the other descendents are
If you literally look at zhongli using a meteor as his ult it makes so much sense
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OH GREAT HEAVENS😨
@@One_Piece1234 LITERALLY
IT COME FROM OUTSIDE TEYVAT 🤯
thats his beloved guizhong's dumbell
I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING!
In the 3.4 update trailer, we can see Venti in Liyue. Maybe Zhongli and Venti will talk about something with the traveler(or without) .. Venti said something about why he came to see the Lantern Rite Festival but what if that's just an excuse? Idk...
that fart bard definitely knows what the fuck happened in sumeru
@@mainuddin2916 fart bard😭
and also.......do you remember inazuma event that venti also came up? and in the some part of the story, venti stand next to yae miko in food stand , BUT the story kinda missdirect us from them. do you not feeling fishy about that? im 100% sure venti must be doin something with miko since miko is the right hand of shogun. venti sus
i imagine venti is recording the events into poems and songs to keep history
And Venti wonders why traveler doesn't trust him. He always lying.
That’s why I respect him, he won’t say nothing but he drops hints to help us and that really made me appreciate his effort unlike all the others that won’t do nothing to help me find my sister, like it’s so easy why you making this hard for me😢
i can't take this shit seriously cus when i begin thinking u're cooking smth, the baldli image pops up
3:31 bruh I’m watching this on my phone in the dark and the sudden apparition of zhongli literally scared the shit out of me 😭
HEHRHSKEPDOF
Oh shit your right
That's fuxjing terrifying
I have nothing to add. You're analytical and abstract genius who thinks outside of box and has great logic. I respect you.
With many hints of Zhongli in HSR there are, it's fascinating how stronger this theory became
Honkai Star Rail?
he's most definitely [connected] the rider of the sun/solar chariot alongside many other mysteries of his past, like his first few contracts and so on
A theory I heard is that Zhongli was one of Phanes shades, the God of the Sun. When Phanes conceded defeat, they weren’t killed immediately because their death would brought ruins to Teyvat. So the Second Who Came kept them alive but they are never to tell about what happened during their era and who they are but they can still uphold their celestial duty.Zhongli “descended” onto Teyvat after the war ended. He upholds his duty to Phanes by adding humans he met that is in trouble, although he himself never truly understands humanity.
I do believe , Phanes were never truly defeated. During the war between Phanes and the Second Who Came (Celestia), both sides are equally of power. But the war brought ruins to Teyvat, and Phanes being the loving God he is, he conceded defeat to preserve Teyvat.
But the primordial one won the battle tho
Phosphorus could be his shade name if he is one. It means dawnbringer
Something I've noticed regarding the Dendro Archon, if my understanding of Irminsul's mechanics is correct (physical history remains unchanged but information is, things still have to happen but the reasons, memory, explanation can get altered) it's technically possible Nahida has been the third Dendro Archon.
Remember the "Rukkhadevata" who used her power to purge the Scarlet King's forbidden knowledge and then transformed into a small child? Wasn't a similar story not applied to Kusanali after purging Rukkhadevata's forbidden knowledge?
Kasala: In helping King Deshret to eradicate forbidden knowledge, she exhausted her strength, and her form became that of a small child.
Dunyarzad: Lesser Lord Kusanali once used all her power in a great disaster, which resulted in her losing her wisdom and memories of the past.
Dehya: Five hundred years ago, Lesser Lord Kusanali used all her power to help the people of Sumeru.
Kusanali didn't truly use her power 500 years ago to help Sumeru, she had barely been born if that. Rukkhadevata did, but since her memory was erased, credit for her actions was placed on Kusanali. Kusanali in her story quest describes "a warm feeling" like "I can no longer see the words on a piece of paper after they've been erased, but I can still see the slight indentations of where those words were written". Which I interpret mechanically as "Rukkhadevata was not erased in the sense of "she never existed at all", the imprint of her actions still exists on the world, even if a different story is being told about them"
It's hard to confirm unless a descender happened to witness it, but it's within the realm of possibility there was a Dendro Archon before Rukkhadevata who had to be similarly erased from Irminsul & had all mention of her supplanted with Rukkhadevata.
If it's actually the case, the implications could be quite large, as Rukkhadevata is credited with a lot of things, so it can become blurry which one did what:
- Maybe only the first one was friends with King Deshret & the Goddess of Flowers?
- Maybe the reason Rukkhadevata couldn't recreate the purple shade of the Padisarahs is that she never actually witnessed them, the first one did instead? (Nilou & Dehya's dialogue in "The Trail of the God of Wisdom" quest)
- Which one built the Wall of Samiel? The Varuna Contraption? Created the Aranara? Founded the Akedemiya?
Holy crap, I never actually realized that
@@anekiryota6049 I thought the title of Dendro archon(not the gnosis the title itself) used to be shared between Rukkhadevata, King Deshret, and the Goddess of flowers at some point before the Goddess of flower's death?
@@mikhailabraham421 oh
Thats exactly my own theory
My thoughts bro, idk I always thought Baizhu was the old archon, bc it was funny to me that Zhongli didn't know or he said that
Im just waiting to another zhongli quest that he talks about nahida but instead says Ruk… nahida just to see if the traveler react to the name he was going to say and confirm to him self that he is the new descender (not sure if he know about the last three)
Sorry if I'm getting this wrong, I'm still new to the lore but are you saying that both the traveler and Zhongli are from a different world, like in outerspace. Hence they aren't affected by the memory changing thing that erased the memory of the first Dendro Archon. Potentially making Zhongli a possible final boss or atleast as important to the story as the Traveler? I'm really interested cuz Zhongli is my fav character, and if this true, highly doubt anyone can play him the same way.
Yes.
Zhongli lives forever, but remembers everything aswel, implying he could either be a god created outside of Irminsul’s reach, a descender made him or he’s truly a descender himself
I saw a theory that he was the sun god from the time of when the seelie race and the 3 moons still lived.
The Primordial One may have still ruled back then.
@@frenchrevenge6406 possible, didn’t see that one, but it might explain why the meteor’s drop effect looks like a pyro explosion
with how you cant name wanderer morax is already confirmed hes a descender just like traveler it doesnt exist in tevyat
@@danidan2174 not necessarily, but yeah possible
@@NortherrorZaGod they took the effort to make it an error means its intentional because names doesnt just get an error out of nowhere
His idle animation just got a whole new meaning
i love how they made a minor change so people would know that they didn't make a mistake rather didn't change it on purpose. also, has anyone tried naming him alice? just wanna know if she's the same as traveler and morax
This dude sees things where no one sees. He is brilliant
When the a quest ended and the dialogue come out As a traveler only we remember what happened and what has changed i instantly realize what zhongli once said to us remember or record thing back then non of us really cared then but now, damn mihoyo really know how to foreshadow thing.. that's why zhongli my fav character, no wonder he also has name of wise god
This man is devoted to his contents, which is why the videos are getting better and better with every upload. Looking forward to more!
Dude is like walking game lore maker
This actually perfectly fits the Zhongli is a Sun God demoted to Teyvat theory and the Zhongli and King Deshret are brothers theory 😳
another fellow achrafkim enjoyer i see 🗿🍷
Man please keep making more, idk why, it gives me serious chills everytime i watch your videos
Nah cos same I’m literally scared💀
bro must read throught description of everything in genshin everyday cz hell no way im gonna believe he noticed such small details so easily. This dude legit has 4 billion IQ
0:36 THAT SCARED THE SHIT OUT OF ME
I guess that's one of the perks of BEING AN ARCHON. The rest just happened to not mention much how they realize any changes in Teyvat.
The final contract that prevented Zhongli from telling us about our sister could be related to the fact he is also a descender.
You mean brother cuz your lumine
@@Danhengmcdonalds lmfaooo good one
@@SnartXD😂
It’s also very suspicious considering how he’s has a 2000-3000 age gap compared to Raiden Ei and Venti (Rukkadevata is a weird case, since she holds the memories of Teyvat so it can be true that she’s as old as Zhongli)
sad fact, zhongli will never find those who he shares memories
this is why i've been saying that 'otakus save the world' title when genshin opens is actually a spoiler lol
He descended so hard, he broke his back and is now the peepaw we know and love
I also remembered/realised something
An archon has always been replaced when one dies. Like Tayvat just.. replaces the archon when said archon dies after a series of events. (With the exception of venti bc hes obvi not dead) for eg Rukka no more=Nahida replaced her. Baal dies=her sister replaced her. The Hydro archon=has been replaced (idk enough about the other two archons so i'll not mention them here). Every nation NEEDS an archon- its the natural order of things. So why has Tayvat not replaced Zhongli? Isnt Morax ment to be dead'?? Could it mean to celestia, Morax is still the archon even though Liyue think hes dead? Bc no replacement has come to fill his role.
Food for thought🤔
I wonder if in later Archon quests someone will replace him? Since I'm guessing it doesn't happen immediately. Or maybe Teyvat realizes Geo Archon is still alive, like Anemo Archon is basically AFK
Well, now that we alr know that hydro archon isn’t being replaced by another archon, we know that an archon is not always been replaced when one dies. However for the Zhongli one, Teyvat did not replace him because he isn’t dead - just like Venti who simply decides to yeet his work as an archon. For Zhongli, he “fake” his death in order to trick his people into thinking that he’s dead. He does not have any intention to trick Celestia. In simple terms, he wants to yeet his position as an archon while at the same time for his people to stop relying on him. So he had to fake his death (with his people as the targeted audience, not celestia).
Unlike (spoiler hydro archon) Furina who literally faced death bcs she wanted to trick Celestia.
Well, now that we alr know that hydro archon isn’t being replaced by another archon, we know that an archon is not always been replaced when one dies. However for the Zhongli one, Teyvat did not replace him because he isn’t dead - just like Venti who simply decides to yeet his work as an archon. For Zhongli, he “fake” his death in order to trick his people into thinking that he’s dead. He does not have any intention to trick Celestia. In simple terms, he wants to yeet his position as an archon while at the same time for his people to stop relying on him. So he had to fake his death (with his people as the targeted audience, not celestia).
Unlike (spoiler hydro archon) Furina who literally faced death bcs she wanted to trick Celestia.
0:36 Where is the jumpscare warning?
You went through many theories and all we LITERALLY needed was the last one 🤣🤣 that word "descended".
Another interesting thing : at the ceremony with the fake death zhongli is also represented by a dragon 🐉 which we haven’t seen before with any other god (they only have them as pets
that zhongli looks even scary when you are watching this at night, I hope he dont haunt me
Traveller = genshin gamers = cannot change our memories= outside teyvat is IRL?
I theorized Teyvat is a Giant simulation since 1.1 when Scaramouche said that the sky are lies. The Abyss is like a Recyclebin and the Celestia is the place where the Creator of the simulation is located. I was thinking that the Descenders are real people wearing VR and the Characters are NPCs. Similar to the concept of Archon Quest Ch3 Act 2. 😅
Your theory crafting capabilities are truly amazing ! It looks so crazy at first but now that I saw all the hints it makes sense. We know Hoyoverse loves Zhongli, so giving him another crucial persona is totally possible. Great job !
In his trailer, at least in English, he says "I wish not for dominion, but I cannot let the common folk suffer".
I always thought that this was refering to his post as Archon and how he doesn't want to be one anymore, but he would still help his people. But what if he was refering to taking control of Teyvat actually?
After watching the video something did not sit right. Why would Celestia make another descender an Archon when they themselves are a descender that took the power from the last "owner". Celestia also seems to be the insecure ruler-type, if we make the analogy that they are the Demiurge.
What if when Zhongli descended, he became the God of Contracts since his very first contract was with Celestia, and the agreement was for him to not try to take the power from them.
Zhongli might have not even wanted to do it, but played along since contracts might have been in his nature from the start, or did it since it secured his survival. He clearly likes humans, so he might have did it to prevent another war like the one between Phanes and the first decender, to protect the people.
No matter the reason, this might have calmed Celestia and to profit from having such a powerful "pawn", they made Zhongli an Archon.
So in his trailer, by "not wishing for dominion", Zhongli might have been refering to not wanting to take the place of Celestia. But since he likes humans, by "not letting thr common folk suffer" he was refering to begining to wish to topple Celestia anyway in the end, since through all this time, he witnessed much suffering of the common folk at the hand of Celestia.
But since he has a contract with Celestia he is powerless. Though, the contract might have not said anything about helping another descender, the MC, take power instead.
Him saying that line is a continuation of the set up the story teller has at the beginning "and before he set out he spoke these words..." hence zhongli standing up on the stage himself and remembering what he said ages ago when he decided he would protect humans from other powerful (shitty) elemental beings even if it means having to take the responsibility of being archon as a consequence.
@@YourBoyToy1769 maybe zhongli’s whole trailer is the future of how some things may be revealed in teyvat 😭
IDK if anyone will read this, but I find it very interesting that both Morax and Traveller are not communicated to us via NPC dialogue but rather system warning. Teyvat is the Matrix. :O
nahida tells us that there are 4 descenders: the heavenly principles, the second who came and the traveler. We don't know the identity of the third descender (traveler is the fourth)... Zonghli?
It could also be that the change from "Only two remain of the first Seven" to "Only two of the first Seven remain in positions of rulership" could also be referencing a different archon, like Venti, which is debatable since Venti does not want to actually rule, but Nahida could be otherwise, so yeah, he might still say two without them changing it because it now refers to a different thing.
But this is also possible
The thing is that the description afterwards continues to mention Zhongli and Venti as the ruling archons. Nahida could be explained as being made prisoner and the sages ruling instead, but then the description would indeed have to change to 1 archon ruling, since Venti doesn't rule Mondstadt. Coming every once in a while to help in crisis isn't ruling, so...
Don't forget about the Church of Barbatos. The people of Monstadt perpetuate Venti's "rulership" on their own, even if they're effectively making up their own rules about what that means. But that's exactly what Venti prefers, so who cares?
Yeah but the description continues to mention Venti and Zhongli as the original archons
@@123leyang321 But isnt allowing his people to be free in the core of ruling with "freedom"?
Also interesting is that Morax is no longer in power after he "died". So wouldn't it be more accurate to say only one remains?
I'm always looking forward to your explanation and theory videos. So awesome!
I was watching this at night and the john lee jumpscare always got me💀
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer -SunTzu a.k.a ZhongLi-
Man these videos are so great it feels like Wei's theories are factually correct, but the horror element in his editing makes it a bad idea for me to watch these videos at night LMAO
"wei has a horror element in his editing"
meanwhile 0:24
@@popsicIes that’s the horror element LMAO
love the way you used the matrix to explain this
Jen shin kinda do be like the matrix at this point
@@_Wei Great Theories And Explanation As Always.
You're Amazing Tbh🫡❤️
Omg someone finally noticed and made a video about it! I thought of this right after the sumeru quest. His story quest was the first thing I thought of when we realized history could change, and then I noticed the other details even before the scaramouche naming thing. I’ve been discussing this at length with my friends and was so sad no one else seems to have noticed everything (but I guess I’m the only lore addict there haha). I love how you even included the stone tablet line of “Rex Lapis descended” too! The naming thing just really I also noticed that his line about Nahida only talks about her saving the Irminsul (ie the Archon quest) and nothing else (as if he doesn’t know much else about her), unlike Venti’s line which implies that (he thinks) he’s known her before this. Anyways, thank you for putting the theory out there!
Also to add: he says he’s “lived in this land for over 6000 years”, not that he’s 6000 years old, which may further imply he originally came from elsewhere and is also older than 6000.
when the description told not to be taken seriously, its kind of hard not to be taken seriously because this video somewhat make sense and i can't even argue.
Osmanthus wine tastes the same as I remember. But where are those who share the memory.
Could you imagine if an Irminsal change affected the contents of one of Zhongli's contracts and him finding out about this?
It's interesting how you arrived to the same conclusion i have based on much better evidence (well, not that what you dug up is all that solid).
My theory was that Zhongli is unaffected because "not all people who he would drink osmanthus wine with died" but he still acts like they have.
But if he had drinks with, say Venti (probably a special case that has backups), Raiden (potential special case from the moment she sealed herself), Xiao, Cloud Retainer, Guoba and Ping, but their memory was changed and his was not, then they "no longer share the memory", and in fact "are not even the people he knows anymore" so he is asking where are the real people he remembers.
He's either the sun or the second who came