Prok Modules are wild, I use them all the time. But they're not for everyone. I'd add to the free recommendations the Befaco Percall, a perfect quad percussive envelope that can turn any sound into a drum sound. Also, a filter can make a fantastic kick. My favorite kick is the Zzzorb filter by Alright Devices (trigger into input, cutoff knob way down, bandpass out to one of the channels of an Instruo Tahn at 2 or 3 o'clock).
You are an absolute star for doing this video. It is EXACTLY what I hoped for. I just picked up VCV Drums and the Prok collection. VCV Drums are pure quality. Not surprising with Vult developing them. Prok are wicked and really compliment. Will probably pick up the Hora collection as well
Thanks Omri, as always a very good review. I own both the prok and the vcv drums. you can get quite a few really good modern drum sounds out of the prok collection. The VCV Drums are more traditional, but in that really good and full sounding. I really like them with a little bit of wave folding and compression in the mix.
Thanks for this comparison Omri. I was planning on doing my own personal "mini" compare since I have all of them. From my use, I certainly agree with your assessment (pros/cons). I personally use them primarily for drums, in addition, been playing around with creating some from ground-up.
I want to highlight one part of the prok collection: the DE "drum envelope." It's awesome, flexible, and probably my favorite envelope. It's basically a A-D envelope (no S stage) but with two D stages with independent decay rates that switch when the envelope reaches a specified level. (Also has built in VCA and CV inputs for all parameters.) The rest of the VCV-only Prok modules are great if you like to build your own drum sounds, but the DE module is just super.
Hi! Well, the Autodafe are playing back samples so they're not really the same. There are not many ways of controlling the sound. It's great for quick results but not as deep as the VCV ones.
@@OmriCohen-Music Thank you very much for the answer, after leaving the message I read that they are already 4 years old, I did not know what technology it was made with, thanks for clarifying that they are based on samples, greetings and good week!
I feel like the Prok modules didn't really get a fair show in this video, sure they can be crazy but they can sound much deeper and more powerful than all the others in this video and this wasn't really explored.
Well, yeah, I guess that this video is also my way of thinking about these three collections, and yes, you can use the Prok for traditional drums, but then you're missing out on all the other things you can do with them, that you cannot do with the other collections without adding a bunch of modules. The thing is, I really do believe that if you want to use drums in VCV, and experiment with drums, you should get all three because each has its own advantages. I love Prok, but never use them for traditional drums, to be honest.
I tried using the DK drum modules along with the 8X8 gate sequencer but I am getting a droning sound and not single hits, any chance of doing a video using the free modules?
@@OmriCohen-Music I figured it out, the sound resoloution loaded at the lowest setting on the output module for some reason and I had the delay set incorrectly
Im surprised by this. Vcv modules always feel like a basic, cheap option to me. I guess its the way they look? But i gotta admit they sound amazing AND are cpu efficient!
I love how people like you Omri said "is nothing special" and actually for me is a master piece those examples. Amazing like always! Thanks
Thank you so much 😀
Prok Modules are wild, I use them all the time. But they're not for everyone.
I'd add to the free recommendations the Befaco Percall, a perfect quad percussive envelope that can turn any sound into a drum sound.
Also, a filter can make a fantastic kick. My favorite kick is the Zzzorb filter by Alright Devices (trigger into input, cutoff knob way down, bandpass out to one of the channels of an Instruo Tahn at 2 or 3 o'clock).
Oh nice! Kick drum out of a filter is always fun! Cheers
You are an absolute star for doing this video. It is EXACTLY what I hoped for. I just picked up VCV Drums and the Prok collection. VCV Drums are pure quality. Not surprising with Vult developing them. Prok are wicked and really compliment. Will probably pick up the Hora collection as well
Oh nice, I'm happy I could help :) Have fun!
The algorithm was quick with this one. I got suggested this vid 22 minutes after you uploaded it
Finally :)
many thanks for the great comparison and your classification!
Cheers!
sehr guter Eindruck, danke
Thanks Omri, as always a very good review. I own both the prok and the vcv drums. you can get quite a few really good modern drum sounds out of the prok collection. The VCV Drums are more traditional, but in that really good and full sounding. I really like them with a little bit of wave folding and compression in the mix.
Oh yeah, nice. I think that all three are a must if you're looking for drums in VCV.
Thanks for this comparison Omri. I was planning on doing my own personal "mini" compare since I have all of them. From my use, I certainly agree with your assessment (pros/cons). I personally use them primarily for drums, in addition, been playing around with creating some from ground-up.
Yeah, I think that all three are beautiful, but each one for different uses. Cheers!
Thx man!
Cheers!
Good comparison thnx
Glad you liked it!
another free collection perhaps worth mentioning is the Autodafe set - all sounds are sampled from famous machines!
Im totally happy with the Vult Bass Drum Module but ya I'm definitely picking up the VCV and Prok collections, already have Hora, Prok is nuts
Yeah, there's much to explore with Prok!
I want to highlight one part of the prok collection: the DE "drum envelope." It's awesome, flexible, and probably my favorite envelope. It's basically a A-D envelope (no S stage) but with two D stages with independent decay rates that switch when the envelope reaches a specified level. (Also has built in VCA and CV inputs for all parameters.) The rest of the VCV-only Prok modules are great if you like to build your own drum sounds, but the DE module is just super.
The main struggle with prok is finding sounds in the main modules.
Another random note: several of prok's hihat models "open" and "close" on the Y axis.
Yeah, the modules that come with the Prok collection are super unique.
I bought the hora analog drums and some of the modules are not working like the rimshot. That' dissapointing.
34:14 I think I know why they're not being triggered. They're connected to the v/oct outputs of neutrinode instead of gate!
Haha! Totally! My bad :)
What do you think of the Autodafe Drum Kit? Does it sound similar to VCV DRUMS? Thank you very much!
Hi! Well, the Autodafe are playing back samples so they're not really the same. There are not many ways of controlling the sound. It's great for quick results but not as deep as the VCV ones.
@@OmriCohen-Music Thank you very much for the answer, after leaving the message I read that they are already 4 years old, I did not know what technology it was made with, thanks for clarifying that they are based on samples, greetings and good week!
I feel like the Prok modules didn't really get a fair show in this video, sure they can be crazy but they can sound much deeper and more powerful than all the others in this video and this wasn't really explored.
Well, yeah, I guess that this video is also my way of thinking about these three collections, and yes, you can use the Prok for traditional drums, but then you're missing out on all the other things you can do with them, that you cannot do with the other collections without adding a bunch of modules. The thing is, I really do believe that if you want to use drums in VCV, and experiment with drums, you should get all three because each has its own advantages. I love Prok, but never use them for traditional drums, to be honest.
I tried using the DK drum modules along with the 8X8 gate sequencer but I am getting a droning sound and not single hits, any chance of doing a video using the free modules?
Oh, how do you have it set up?
@@OmriCohen-Music I figured it out, the sound resoloution loaded at the lowest setting on the output module for some reason and I had the delay set incorrectly
@@AndrewAHayes Ok, I'm happy it works now!
Im surprised by this. Vcv modules always feel like a basic, cheap option to me. I guess its the way they look? But i gotta admit they sound amazing AND are cpu efficient!
Oh yes, the VCV collection is very deep and well made!
How do the hora ones exist??! They do not sound good. Prok and vcv all day
simple answer: the cheapest ones I can get to make a full kit^^