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- Today I'm answering a question I've been badgered with for over a decade in World of Tanks: which tank should you go for first?
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Qb said it even years ago, obj 430u should always be your first tier 10 😂
The game getting harder and harder at higher tiers is something a *lot* of new players don't realize. Especially when they decide to buy a premium T8 in the beginning...
WoT at high tiers is hard enough when you don't have the map knowledge or tactical experience, but when you barely know the basics it is just brutal. But i guess they see "bigger numbers = better"... ?
One of the reasons high tier is so much more difficult is because it gets slower. DPM-to-HP-ratio gets worse, armor starts to be more useful and higher view range limits the possibiliies of movement/positioning. That means WoT turns from the chaotic DPM-freeforall at lowtier to a much more tactical game at high tier, where every single position and tank starts to matter a lot more.
Combine that with usually more experienced players exploiting every single mistake you make and those mistakes usually resulting not just in your but also your flanks anihilation, and you get a pretty hard experience for newer players at high tier.
That beeing said, i would recommend a sniping TD line as the first, maybe the soviet Obj 268-line or so. They may not be the most competetive tanks, but the snipy playstyle is good for beginners. You only need to know like 2 positions per map to be somewhat useful, and they allow you to learn the maps and learn how fights usually develope and where tanks usually go. Also you don't have to bother with micro-management that much, which is something a newer player will be hopelesly overwhelmed with. On top of that the usually higher penetration levels of TDs don't require as much knowledge of armor models.
Also as a recommendation for new players: Stay out of TX until you get comfortable at lower tiers first. TX tanks are an entirely different experience, since you usually end up in pure TX battles, which play completly different and are a *much* more competetive gold-slugfest (which you won't be able to afford or compete with). I know, its tempting to see those nice numbers and tanks you get at TX, but trust me: It is not worth it for beginners. The game won't just magically get better just because you reached the highest tier, simply because the wide-spread MM of T9 to the 2/3-mono-tiered MM of TX is a MUCH bigger step than it seems.
best comment! tier x is practically another game
@@cesarmayhem
Most importantly it is absolutly not what you expect after playing T9.
When you play a Jagdtiger and get wrecked by a Jp E100 it is easy to imagine getting that Jp E100 and blasting Jagdtigers away yourself, but the reality is: You won't face Jagdtigers most of the time. You will face TX tanks peppering your superstructure with HEAT until you regret every single credit you spent^^' And after that you will look at your repair+ammo bill and will regret it even more.
@@Xelianow I've been having a lot more fun playing Tier VI lately
Hard to say. I learned to play game in 2013 when hellcat was overpowered and I also played Chaffee a lot back then. But at first I really played sniper TDs such as M8A1 and I never knew what exactly is a role of mediums. But from sniping I realized that I have to move with TD to support my team efficiently and not wait for them to die and then farm useless damage. I could use Hellcat or T40 with 400m view range as a scout and stay hulldown as tiny target and i worked on minimizing exposition. Then I learned that T20 was (and still is) a great scout with high pen golds and as a player with maybe 4k games in 5 months I already had 60% winrate on Hellcat, T40, M8A1 and 55% on T20. But I never learned how to play heavies, they are not flexible, they can't push into open area. Somehow every class work up to tier 8 and I even managed to two mark IS3, much later T32 and 110 but mostly as requirements dropped and I took them after many years. I feel I'm decent with tier 9 mediums. Not much else. On tier 10, I feel that only Manticore somewhat works for me.
Problem with tier 10 is that people can almost predict your mistakes and all tanks are deadly. DPM does not matter, TDs and heavies with 750 alpha, autoloaders, fv4005 can kill you in no time.
I two marked M46 Patton and I can't get one mark on M48 (although I got one mark on some tanks and once even reached 77% moe on amx13105)
I've played since 2012 and play mostly t8 and t7 saying that my favourite has always been the panzer 7
One should get the tank that is most fun first. St-ii double penetrator line in my opinion is very good and easy to play through.
that was also my first T10. extremely fun when you hit for almost 1,000 with those double barrel shots
i found the maus a good choice for the first tier 10. only thing you have to learn is the positioning of the tank in order to bounce shots.
Grinding would be more fun if we got tanks with full upgrade from get go. Playing with stock module is awful for the player, team, and game. Just move all the required xp to the next tank unlock and give us fully upgraded modules from get go.
@@brandonhindmarsh4353 100% agree with that. like i get they want you to go through the tanks but now for free to play players it’s just such a lengthy process to get one T10
@@brandonhindmarsh4353Chinese rocket heavies are almost like this. No gun upgrades from the t8 onwards
The fact that this vehicle is still so good considering the power-creep over the years and even after its nerfs just shows how utterly broken it was on release lol
430U is my favorite russian heavy. And the 277 is my favorite russian medium.
The first tank I ever went for was the T71 (now the T71 DA) back in 2014 because I saw Vechs play it and it was cool looking
Sadly it was completely inferior to the Bulldog when they were same tier
430U is a banger, nice grind towards it and a fun aggressive crown on top
Nice grind ?? How am i supposed to play with a stock T44 then. That thing sucks!!
free xp @@vuurwark_en_carbid38
@@vuurwark_en_carbid38 This is where I spent some free experience. Went from the 85 D5T gun that does nothing, to the 100 LB-1 which is so much better and makes the tank playable. I love the sound also.
@@tedspeed3338 thanks ill check it out, dont wanna too much free exp
If you struggle with t44, you're not bless with Russian rng 😂
The only thing I remember about WoT in 2010 was going broke driving my Tiger II. My first venture into the higher tiers.
Really? I went with the Tier 2 T18 TD DERP machine! I loved it!
One of the most OP tanks ever. I did 13 kills with the derp one time. That's why WG removed it from the game.
It's still in the game, it got nerfed hard and became an arty
@@wotdragonracer5624 No it's not in the game any more.
After the nerf they moved it to Tier 3, made it an arty and called it T3 HMC.
Now arty starts at tier 5
I think American heavies up to the T29 is an ideal first grind in WOT, just to get used to the game. Mediums take some skill/experience.
You made me miss this tank QB.
To answer your question:
i just cant afford playing it. like every tier X tank ive ever unlocked and took for a spin or two.
I actually can’t find an argument in this. The 430u is a beast. The Maus is my favorite tier ten but the 430u is really really good.
I decided to go for the obj 140 fist
But I have been in the t54 for almost two years, I just have fall in love with it
@@santiagoonate2285 T54 is probably my favorite medium. That and the obj257 are the only tier 9 tanks I kept
I usually just pick the best looking tank first
Id reccomend an e 50m for a begginer, the tree is weird, but the tier 10 is great, my highest dmg games in onslaught were in the e50m
Glad you made a 430U vid after the best medium tank video! Also recommend IS-7 too
0:19 what do yyou mean watch some streams from who ever? there is only one WoT youtuber and streamer in the world - QuickyBaby
Cringe
Super Conq was my first tier 10 but the Obj 430 was my first tier 9
Without knowing this, the 430U was my first tier 10 that i got probably 5-6 years ago. I still have a sub 50% winrate with it but i think it did me favors as a first tier 10
Try it again with your new knowledge!
Is ok if you like heavy gameplay, I prefer prog and tvp mediums, much more fun and deadly.
love the amx m4 51 - the grind (unless the t8) is a great experience and the 130mm gun is so much fun.
Also, If you want to get a feel of the 430u but you can't be arsed going up the line. Grab a 113 from the store. Pretty much the same (bar the camo - as it's a heavy)
I love my Obj 430U. I think of it as my heavy medium. I'm not very good, but I still have good games in my 430U. I often go to 'heavy' locations and it copes remarkably well.
how to really pick the tank you should play-> "it looks fun? play it!"
I like the E50, pretty much the german equivalent for the 430, but good god starting from tier 6 it's a pain to grind that line, zero armor!
Is the 4300 line any better in regards to armor? Any occasional turret bounces?
My first line was the 121, close enough right? 🤣
Same 😊 Chinese knock off is pretty good! I kept the tier 7 too cuz it's fun!
Despite QB talks about how you should play midteirs and maybe delay at Teir 9...
The title of the video is "what tank to get first" and under _first_tank_ the first Teir10 tank is meant.
And that, I think, is a fundamental flaw of our community. The idea that everybody has to play Teir10 and all the tech tree tanks are just a way to the top teir is bad. Ok, maybe it is how Wargaming monetisation model works and what they want the audience to do.
But it is not what we should support.
All the tiers of the game should be fun to play. And pushing the player who enjoys Teir6 and even won't go further is not good.
I would even argue, that Teir4 is more enjoyable. With maps not being so atrociously tight for all that high tier view range and speed. You got less turbo games there.
No, considering a Tier10 the only "real one" is really bad.
I love the tier 9 Obj 430. It such a nice fast, well armored and dmg dealing MT!
I got the Object 430U because I had the 3d style from a battle pass. It also looked cool without it. It’s a pretty good tank
QB: Is there a video on the best mid-tier> vision, dpm, camo & accuracy?
The 430U was one of my very first tier 10s because it was still busted as all hell at the time. It still kinda is, but it was nerfed quite a bit iirc. I got my highest dmg record of 6.34k in it actually and I'm not even a good player lmao.
Lack of gun depression is the most frustrating aspect of a tank to me. I can deal with bad armor, bad guns, lack of mobility...but bad gun depression just pisses me off.
And probably the reason why its not played more. Currently the meta is about gundep. Why would we want to play with Soviet and Chinese meds when we have things like the AX, Udes and the STB-1?
Thats not true imo. Look at Obj.277 or IS-7 which are great tanks only having
What he said^^
I mean, it already have stronk armor, adding more gun depression would be crazy OP.
Instead, git gud and use terrain irregularities.
Then again, if your playstyle doesn't match with the tank, just sell it.
430u don't need gun dep
I really like the American T95. I love just dropping the hammer on people while bouncing tons of damage. Working my way up the 430U line. Thanks for the show.
My 1st reasonable vehicle was Soviet Medium T-28 Tier IV, what a cutie!
I wish I had the matchups that this guy seems to get game in and game out!!!
I really like my 430. In fact, I have one of my two kolobanov’s in it. But I really don’t get on with the 430U. Or at least didn’t …haven’t played it for ages. Maybe I should start again
In my opinion, the point for a new player is to have a pleasant experience grinding a line, not just thinking and considering only the tier 10 tank.
I believe light tanks and artilleries should not be the first choice, since the first requires a fair experience and understanding of game mechanics + its unforgiving,while the latter wont improve your learning curve as fast as you wished, since it has different playstyle than other tanks.
Tanks with good armor and good penetration with base values are more ideal for a newer player. Or tanks that can support from a distance.
After introducing some friends into the game over a decade i believe heavies and tank destroyers is what you should look for.
tank destroyers are also ideal for f2p players since you can get away without using premium ammo most of the time.
Id always recommend tier Xs with above average alpha dmg and gold pen, decent armour, speed, dpm and accuracy
First should be 277, then 140, then 60tp, then Leo, then your choice, but competitive tech tree tanks are always more fun, especially 277/is7 or 60tp they are easy to play and easy to do well in! I find the 430u to have one of the most frustrating guns (outside of carro that I’m trying to mark right now and it being the bane of my existence)
Yess that's a really good tank QB cheers 🍻
If u want 430 U i cant stress it enough, run tier 3 exp hardening or CONFIG.
Every time i meet one with my Jageroo i just autoaim their flat hull with no troll shape (like E5) with my HEAT loaded (why not) and its always an ammorack. Like last 2 times i met 430U it was just an autoaim into the hull ammorack. This thing blows up and heats shred it.
Many tanks suffer from weak ammo racks, especially if hit by a jagdE100. The counter to that is to not get hit by a JagdE in the first place.
The most newbie friendly TX i can think of is the IS-7 actually.
For some reason I was never able to make this tank work. For me the E50M is the ideal medium.
430u looks like a brawler. Decent armour layout, solid dpm and mobility.
I don't have ideal medium on tier 10. Udes can either work or burns or gets rushed. Leopard can be decent, but sometimes you need armor and respect to win. STB feels somewhat average. Obj140 has low alpha. E50M is weird, sometimes it works, sometimes it feels always spotted, impossible to hide cause it's huge and because my first 15 games were trash, I never played it regularly, despite I enjoyed E50. For me, tier 9 mediums work better in general, except of leopard pta and type 61 ... and centurion i guess. On the other hand, I like T55A, Kpz50t, M46 Patton, I liked standard b before nerf and for me ideal medium is bourrasque (except it's the best tier 9 light tank) and for some reason I always liked M46 Patton. Not today, gold pen at 500m is the same as on T20 two tiers lower and bouncing flat side of maus or lower plate of defender at distance is not fun. Back in 2013 to maybe 2018 it had highest DPM, best accuracy on the move, today it's among slowest mediums.
I went for the FV215b first back in 2014 (albeit mainly because I wanted the Conqueror) and then the Leopard 1 (back when your only choices were the VK 3002-Indien and pre-buff PTA or Aufkl.pz). Not the most noob friendly tactic especially because that was the pre-buff Leo 1 as well. It's only later I realised that the Indien-Panzer is quite a fun tank and the lights were an absolute delight back when the Ru 251 was a tier 8. But that was after 3 years and 20k battles of experience.
Even though you pick up the Cromwell, the Centurion AX line wasn't brilliant either aaaand that was my third tier 10. You can see where this is going
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That being said my 4th tier 10 was the JPE100 and even though the Ferdinand is not as brilliant as it was back then, that is a pretty good line to start off with if you want to experience casemate TDs. Although nowadays the Ho-Ri line takes that cake.
yess, this is my first and still only tier 10 tank!
Still one of my favorite tier 10 meds. Very underrated tank, most folks don't realize the 907 is a hybrid of the 140 and 430U. Clans stupidly worry about whats Meta and disregard this tank, which in the hands of a competent player can 1 on 1 any other medium without much difficulty. It's bouncy enough to get caught by a heavy and survive even win. You are right people just don't play this tank enough to know it's value, but I do disagree with you thinking this is OP. It's not OP it's main advantage is people underestimate it due to it being a medium. I run Bounty Hardening, Rammer and Turbo primarily, the hardening helps against those OP autoloaders and the tracking players who never seem to miss the track shots lol. On a bushy map my alternate build is CVS, Optics, Vents though lately I've removed the vents for a Turbo as this tanks real weakness is it's mobility. A mobility suite with a firepower or Survival suite makes this tank very friendly, the 3rd slot can anything map dependent.
The Reason to play a line because of the little modules you have to grind is why i never touched the Chinese Tanks so far.
QB you say that about win ratio for average player, it all depends on what team WG give you in the MM
British Heavy Tanks. Awesome line. Super Conqueror, Conqueror and Caernarvon are all very flexible and solid heavy tanks. Super Conqueror is still very good even after nerfs. At low tiers You have Matilda and you can not go wrong with that. Churchill I & Black Prince are also quite nice after buffs. The only tank that may be problematic is Churchill VII as it is not good tier-by-tier.
The Black Prince is bad too imo
@@MikaelmikaloniaIt is just slow. But if you put a turbo on it, you roam at 30kph which is very good. Also you have amazing rate of fire - double track absolutely everything
was my first line before turbo in the game and manage to grind out FV before S.Conq was introduced.
Loved Matilda but the rest was hard work.
@@test_nametest_surname1794 Same. FV was my 1st tier 10 in the game. Back then it was decent, but at some point FV became worst tier X heavy in the game (and it probably still is).
It was my first tier X and i think heavys are better for new players for example E100, 60tp, IS-4.
Before the nerf, was my favorite tank in the game, now its bad, i havent 5 games after the nerf.
In the first game, when starting east, i never go down in the water unless someone goes on the road above, exactly for the reason that QB showed. You just get dominated from above from the west spawn
Really depends on the teams. I usually go there and dominate the middle.
The enemy's play literally is the winning one, they just sucked absolute ass lol.
If that 121B knew his shit and didn't just buy the tank with his first 15K bonds he would've dabbed that 2-key and molested QB in an instant.
I concur this is a good tank, not my fave ...yet but good tank.
I woul recommend the badger, it has almost the highest dpm and great armor
Yeah I'm grinding it as my first tier 10
Nice to know 6 years later after going down the 140 line 🙄 I guess I’ll grind again.
You inspirited me to to play WOT of tanks again.
Udes and STB would be my ones
Love 430U
The game was much better when the first tank you got was all of the Tier 1 LTs, and you had to grind your way up.
I like the tanks that are "most fun" to me... and I can't play them (that is, with reasonable winrate/wn8/bloodpressure).
And the tanks that I can play really good... I don't like.
QB, it would be awsome if you made another video on the 122tm for us peasants who cannot afford many premiums
Mine first was grille. love it
The 430u was nerfed because it was so good and powerful. They let it be powerful for quite a while too. QB seems to have forgotten this. When people used it they did some nasty damage. Its armor was great. Very tough. If you were the type of player that just spammed premium shells it just took lots of damage and bounced a lot of shells off its armor. It was a easy tank for anyone to play. Now that its nerfed not as many people play it. Cant go running in YOLO with it like you used to. Its armor was nerfed. Have to be more careful now. Its not a bad medium tank. I'd call it just average now since so much other changes have happened since its introduction. New tanks have come onto the scene as well changing how the game is played.
T-54 tier 9 used to be the real OP powerhouse, that Russian med just hit W all the way around the map lol. Loads of fun till power creep made it almost unplayable. 430 and 430U are still the better of all the Russian meds. I do love trolling those idiot Borrasque players when they "Tink Tink" both shots then crap their shorts before getting lit up by this sleeper Med.
As far as I renember they nerfed the 430u only mildly. Some gunhandling and dispersion. Nothing really essential. The armour of it is still brutal
@@juanzulu1318 Not true, the armor as well was nerfed, now the commanders hatches are easier to pen, about 230-270mm whereas on the old 430u they were still like 330mm. The hatches went from being unpennable to everything that didnt have 340 heat or more, to now being free pens to anyone shooting gold or regular high pen ap, at tier 9 and 10. Thats a pretty big hit to the play style of the tank, you need to be a lot more active in the 430u nowadays.
Pre nerf 430u was better especially for playing hull down the gun handling was just a bonus to have, compared to the current 430u which probably gets penned like, 200% more often now in the hatches. Think about how many guns are useless against 330mm, but not against 230-270mm, it opens up a lot more counters than what the 430u had to worry about before, even tier 8s can pen the hatches now.
@@animalyze7120 I remember when the T54 first came out. Them T54 platoons. Oh man! Same when the T-44s came out. Platoons of T-44s. Again what a storm of damage they caused.
@@CrimsonicStorm the cuppola is rather small, so that nerf isnt dramatic
very good idea, i just disagree with one thing, tier 9 is way easier than 8. because now you can brute force your way trough op premiums when at tier 8 you have to try a little or pray that the machine you picked for that battle can counter what the other team has. unless you are a Caliban enjoyer. Caliban gives zero Fs about op tanks. every game is good game with Caliban
My first choice is no question the TOG 2 , just as soon as you can get it. While yes, it's slow and has no armor to speak of - it's got a decent gun and so many hit points that you can often last long enough to get practice in actually using the gun before getting killed. You're not going to win battles, but it's a very easy tank to use to practice player skills.
Is okay tank not OP
Go for Chieftain, T110E4 or Super Conqueror
Yepp, i rage quit with the 430u, lost 0-15. Lost By mm and rng. 😢
happens loads in tier x ime
sounds like a skill issue mate
Get a tank with great reload, good penetration and high module damage.
Quicky there is ONE answer for first tank. Go up the German tree and get a Tiger 1!
honestly, dont know why im so bad in 430U. On most other Tier 10 I have +-50% win ratio, but on 430U I have like 30.
Pressure, face hug, aggression, side hug, gold... camo?
@@QuickyBabyTV Doing, or at least trying to do all of above, but honestly I'd preffered a better team.
love 430 and 430U
430u is by far a very forgiving tank. Good alpha, mobile enough, hard armor. Absolute beast in a lot of noobs hands.
You get the armor and firepower of a heavy tank and the stationary camo of a light tank while being matched up against glass cannon mediums. Your team gets a free heavy tank and scout tank when you play this thing. That’s why it’s so good despite the poor gun handling and gun depression.
What about a returning player that took a 2yr break?
My opinion is 60TP its a power house
The best tank in the game!!
It's so funny to listen QB talking about tier8 get's more often tier6 enemies, than tier10. When I play tier8 with my friend I get a fight against tier6 may be 1-2 times per evening, but have to fight the whole time against tier9 and tier10. Which mm dies QB get??????
games are cherry picked. all tier X mm is a whole different story.
Without vert stab.? :D youre crazy
Tier 6 matchups as a tier 8 don’t make me laugh maybe 1% of the time you will get all tier 8 matchmaking then it’s all 8/9 and 8/9/10 usually the latter I’m always against tier 10 it’s a bad joke
Isn't 121 B most well rounded? I know it's only avail for bonds, buuut...
121b's armour looks good on paper, but it sucks in the game(sidescraping is almost impossible). The dpm is massive, but the lack of depression doesn't let you use it on many maps. And the tank is just slow for a med. It's fun sometimes, but I wouldn't recommend it. Cs 63 is better and allows you to make cool plays. Stb and udes are 1000% better on a ridge. Leo's gun is just beautiful compared to 121b. Centurion is also decent after the last rework. 430U is pretty much a heavy, and 140 is only missing a bit of alpha, but is still better overall
@@kaloyanivanov6013 thx
Please show the Obj 430 tier 9
I thought stock tier 8 was fucking rubbish. Tier 9 is worse? LOL
I'm glad I stopped when I did.
of course it is a "you" issue if cannot play well with it, it is literally in the name ... *430U*
need one
Nah, tier 10 is trash for a lot of players, especially new players, and requires a full time premium account and gold spamming to play it properly realistically speaking, as can be seen in QB's replay with paid actors for enemy opponents in which he has a mostly gold ammo loadout. Tier10 is more of a "meta tank" environment sadly, rarely see's anything other than full tier10 battles, and it's the usual small handful of meta tanks, regardless of nerfs, that will dominate and frustrate.
Just save some BP tokens, and get the Char Futur 4. This tank is amazing tier9(which is a sweet spot of WoT imho) medium tank and you don't even have to grind apart from playing the game enough to bag the required BP tokens(Not even that many tokens tbh). It's basically the tier10 Batchat gun only with far better gun handling and accuracy plus it's affordable to play entirely for free and has better MM by virtue of being a tier9 tank. 4X390 alpha shells in a magazine with high standard pen and railgun shell velocity. It very rarely needs premium ammo, is a really fun supporting tank that then switches to and end-game assassin to mop up low health Bobs. It's mobile, excellent camo and view range, can spot, can snipe, can kill, can relocate... it really is just a great all round tank tbh. Ya, there will be maps that don't suit the light armor but that's the same for all tanks with certain maps, and the Char is actually pretty troll with armor that bounces far more shots that it seems it should. 🤣
my impression about this tank is ENGINE ON FIRE. like 90% of the matches.
while the inaccurate gun ruined the other 10% .
Chinese 121 is far superior, i even put 2 bond equip on it
Try experimental durability and actually repair your fuel tanks!
my opinion is,if ure medium at everything ure not good at anything.not best armor,not best gun,no como,not best speed,and bigest problem is no gun depression.ovreal its bad
I know its your opinion, but the OBJ 430U isn't a bad tank. It has good armour, a good gun (although it is inaccurate, the Alpha damage, Pen, and DPM make up for it), alright speed, good camo, and alright view range. In the least rude way, if you do bad In the 430U, it's a skill issue. Its very easy to use, and unless your absolutely terrible at the game, you can do very well in it. However, an experienced player may do better in a tanks like the CS-63, Leopard 1, STB 1, UDES 15/16, and the M48A5 Patton.
dont go for heavys, everybody firing gold nowadays, armor doesnt mean shit.
did you just destroy the team in that first match.....!
i was afraid this tank is simulair to T34.3 at t8..ammorack gunhandeling aimtime acuraccy
tell me am wrong cusz i am grinding it now..
i recommend the Super.Q
That's a really weird recommendation, especially because of the tier9
You don't have the mobility to play like a medium and don't have enough armor to play like a heavy either.
The gunhandling is horrible and you'll not be able to compensate for it with the premium shells because those are horrible as well.
I personally like the 430 but that thing is too heavily dependant on the matchmaker and RNG.
The 430 is literally the only tech tree medium at tier 9 with a positive winrate difference on tomato gg. It's a very competent medium.
I agree, it's frustrating to play quite often, I was happy when I finished the grind (to never play ob. 430u later). But even though it's hard to make plays in suboptimal MM, it is just so idiot proof and smashes tier 7s just like QB did smash tier 8s in those two matches. On one hand I feel showing battles only against 2 tier lower tanks is not doing justice to a tank, but on the other hand... lower tiers have less hit points so hats off for doing 8k in such MM.
And to clarify - I am a 55% player, yet in OB.430 I ended up with 63% WR. Not my top tier 9 by WR but close to it. I enjoyed Centurion 7/1 far, far more, and did substantially more DPB with it (almost 2500 vs almost 2200) but finished it with... 49% WR. Wut.
@@tenkowallol, I had the same with the e50. I constantly thought it is a complete garbage and many times I just didn't enjoy playing it, yet my wr was above 60% 😂
Leopard 1, because of that superior German Engineering
The tank you should get they wont sell again BZ176
And THIS is EXACTLY why the player quality at tiers 8-10 have become very poor!! Suggesting NEW WOT PLAYERS to by a premium tier 10 tank and they don't even know what they're doing yet!!! WOT should not allow any player to buy a premium tank until they FIRST RESEARCH the same level and type of tank in the tech tree. That alone would eliminate the ridiculous low quality of players at the upper tiers!
TLDW;
This tank is idiot proof (proof being QB playing like an idiot and still dominating).
It's particularly strong when facing paid actors and switching to easy difficulty with 340 pen.
Most of the tiers of the game are now flooded with players that are playing tiers above their skill cap and then there are the way too good prems that WG are too scared to fix ....overall this game has turned from fun to a chore to play....at 53% I consider myself below the t10 skill cap ....and I find no enjoyment seeing my teams top tier doing almost nothing and many times zero damage in a game because they are sub 50% players
Doesn’t 430u automatically allow you to just purchase t62a for 6100000 credits? So you unlock 2 tier 10s
Sure, but T62a is literally the worst t10 med
@@kaloyanivanov6013 understood. But you get 2 different styles of meds for researching one line. I remember when t62a was solid
@rbwagner71 The thing is, they are not that different. You just loose the decent alfa and the good armor for a bit of speed. With 430U you can play vs heavies, which is the best thing about it. This is not the case for t62a. You are forced to play it as a support vehicle, but that takes away your initiative and influence on the battle.
When your weakpoints have better armor than the Maus .......
Not really though. It's gonna be pain when you're in tier vii (t-43) which is basically t-34/85 in uptier then moved to tier viii battle and meet high caliber tanks with enormous damage. I rather play HT in Soviet line since it's have overall good armor and damage. Meanwhile still have weakness on speed and gun depression.
The t43 is not an argument against the the 430u
The T-43 looks bad on paper but that is partly because the T-34-85 is one of the best tech tree meds at tier 6. I had a WR way higher than my account avg over 50+ battles in the T-43 back when I was grinding through it. The main things you get are a nearly 50% increase in HP and better gun handling which make it more forgiving to play. You just can't take it head on into sticky situations because the penetration and alpha damage will let you down. If you know how to flank and support you can do well in the T-43
To clarify, I mean the main improvements over the T-34-85 (because on paper it looks like you aren't getting anything)
Update: after looking at recent stats it seems the situation is a little worse than I remember, probably due to more recent balance changes and meta shifts. The tech tree T-34-85 is good, but not necessarily one of the best at its tier judging by win ratio. The gun is still more than solid though. The other thing I neglected is that tier 6 and below had their HP pools buffed a couple years ago which reduces the difference in HP between T-34-85 and T-43. T-43 is definitely one of the weaker tierVII meds however I still agree that you should not avoid an entire line of tanks solely because of one of its minor midtier challenges
@@juanzulu1318 how you want to get these tanks to be your first tanks, if you're not grinding it from first tier? Also this tanks got a few nerf make this tanks no so very special anymore.
my first tank i got was the type 5....