It makes sense that Widowmaker is scared of Moira, imagine you were kidnapped and tortured for months then experimented on with very untested methods, and forced to kill the one person you’re closest to, that’s what Moira did to Widowmaker
Ana could be literally, canonically, bleeding out to certain death and she would still be like "listen kids, you only killed me because I was bored. Now finish it, I have better things to do". And I love it.
@@littlelw319 Yeah, people forget that Ana is canonically one of, if not THE best sniper in the world. She could've killed widow but hesitating caused her to get shot and she always hated taking lives/killing people. There's a reason why she was chosen for Overwatch to be a founder when she came from the Egyptian military that consists of snipers, she stands out amongst everyone else as the best.
@@henrypaleveda7760 she lost her eye she used to scope with and just decided 'screw it I have another eye'. She's using her untrained eye and she's still the best sniper
It's definitely feeling like Widow's conditioning is starting to crack, and we're seeing more of Amelie Lacroix. She's a lot more emotive than she was in OW1.
@@QueenStarNova Yep, if you die enough on that map she eventually screams her husbands name when she respawns. It seems Moira is very aware of this too which is why she keeps asking how Widow "feels." Widow is truly starting to come across as a tragic character, she has no escape from Talon. And must continue doing whatever they tell her to, otherwise she has to be reworked by Moira and that seems more horrific than just following the orders given, because at least Widow can still somewhat think for herself and hold onto her memories.
@@alyssajones3607 Anyone else notice that in all the recent Widow skins on OW1 her skin is barely blue anymore but pale grey...but in OW2 it's back to blue and now we get these unsettling Moira voice lines...
Its kinda sad though, I bet Lena knows everything about Amelie's history, the fact that she feels no empathy for her or sympathy kinda feels cold on Tracer's part, considering she is one of the more "look on the bright side" hero's.
@@djtrac3r935 I forget the exact timing of Gerard's death. Could he have been Tracer's mentor or something like that? Would explain her being particularly angry at her.
@@aeris_zaeleria9722 I mean in all fairness I’d be a little salty too if I had to work with the lady who shot my eye out and made the world think I was dead
3 things that caught my interest. 1. Amelie seems to be uncomfortable if not down right afraid of Moira. But then again, who wouldn’t be? 2. Amelie and Gabriel seem to have bonded over their “Marital Issues.” Gabriel maybe looking out for her due to his friendship with her ex/dead husband. 3. Amelie had some form of trust for Baptise once. Probably broken now that he left Talon. Maybe bonded over speaking French.
I'm convinced that her conditioning is slowly wearing off. Maybe Moira has been slacking due to her mutations in her arm and is either concerned or fascinated by it so much so that she's been lazy. I'm hoping Widow at some point fully wakes up and can reconcile with some of the cast
@@Tuskbumper Well with batise being Haitian, French is the primary language used while Haitian creole is the native language so they both definitely speak French i wouldn't be surprised if batise made some jokes in creole to her that she wouldn't understand tho 😂
It never occurred to me just how terrifying Moira is. Yes, she is a "doctor" who performs terrible experiments on people, but through voicelines alone it is implied that she is incredibly powerful and truly a threat. She can speak to Reinhardt as if he is just a nuisance and even calls him "prey" in one of her voicelines. Not only that, but when interacting with Widow, she has this level of control over her, like seeing a child step out of line so you have to discipline it, but not in a "you did a bad thing" kind of way. Really puts into perspective just how scary she is.
Who's next on the missing an eye but will get threatened by moira list? Hmmmm, not moira, moira would just shut her brain off or some shit... I really don't know who else is missing an eye
Doomfist is nothing now, moira is the true villain. Dooms goals are similar to that of thanos's, but all moira wants to do is experiment to "further her scientific knowledge." She is very clearly a megalomaniac, someone who hungers for power, and will stop at nothing to obtain it. I beilive, towards the end, everyone will team together to try and stop moira, after a lot of redemption arcs ofc.
@@RRRRRRRRR33 doom fist doesnt seem nearly as bad as Moira lol. From hero interaction he sounds like a dude you could go out and have a drink with. Moira just insults basically the whole roster in someway and is just a asshole lol
Ofc she provokes her. Moira calls widowmaker and Reaper her experiments. When Moira kills them, she says „every experiment must come to an end”. I would not be surprised if Moira would only check her experiments this way, although I am convinced that she knows from the very beginning that Widowmaker is regaining her emotions back, but she acts as if she teases Amélie to reveal it herself.
When Widow's map was added to OW1 if you play her and die enough times on that map eventually she screams her husband's name at the respawn. Moira was also given an interesting line during that update too. Moira asks Widow "How do you feel Lacroix?" To which Widow responds "I DON'T, isn't that the point?" She puts heavy emphasis on how she doesn't feel anything and quickly tries to brush it off as nothing to please Moira. Because as we learn from the comics, anytime Amelia's brainwashing wears off Moira just works on her again and further tinkers with her body. Widow is highly scared of Moira and is trying everything in her power to keep Moira from noticing the brainwashing is wearing off, because she doesn't want to lose her memories or have to undergo any of the painful experiences Moira will inflict again. Even if that means she has to keep following Talon orders, Widow chooses that so she isn't noticed and can keep whatever part of herself she has regained.
@@alyssajones3607 I would be surprised if she ever recovered if she didn't get PTSD, considering the fact she is basically being forced to work for Talon or else she will be tortured again. I am surprised that Overwatch agent's haven't tried to rescue her so they can try and fix her.
@@djtrac3r935 considering everything she's gone through, I think the PTSD is highly plausible. How the rest of OW hasn't yet figured out she's slowly been recovering from the brainwashing is beyond me. But with Moira constantly keeping an eye on her, and Widow currently staying with Talon to keep appearances for Moira. Perhaps that might factor into why nobody at OW has noticed Amelia is slowly breaking free either. I want to know now why things seem tense between Baptiste and Widow. Bap escaped from Talon, we know that much, so does Widow feel resentment towards him for leaving her behind when he escaped? He did ask her not to tell anyone, then scoffs and tells her it's whatever. Or is she mad at him because he was brave/bold enough to leave what they both know to be a messed up organization, whereas she stays out of fear?
Honestly, I don't see why Soldier said that he was warning her husband about her. She was an ordinary woman before, then she got brainwashed. How can you warm someone about something that is so unexpected
nah i think it was originally just a typical jab guys do about their friends dating women they don't get along with. i think it's just implying they never got along even before she was brainwashed
you have to remember that Widowmaker was left in the hands of her husband for two weeks after the brainwashing. after two weeks at home, she killed him. maybe during this time Jack started to suspect something
wasnt she captured and then saved. Then later on her brainwashing kicked in and she killed her husband at home? so he probably warned him that something was odd, that they could save her easily and shes normally. was probably really suspicious for soldier
He probably warned her after she was captured and reconditioned. Canonically, Amelie went missing for a while and was eventually found. Jack probably sussed out she was brain washed but her husband just laughed it off. Shame, could have lived if he listened to Soldier.
i love how reaper and widowmaker is just casually talking about their personal life while widowmaker and reinhardt is talking about how easy it is to kill each other
to everyone commenting about reapers wife it was revealed in a previous comic. theres alot of lore covered in the comics like soldiers ex boyfriend as well
@@JohnDoe3-1-4 normally i would object to people trashing on gay rep in games but solider’s queerifying was so obviously a last attempt by blizzard to hold down a part of their community by pandering before their big scandal collapse.
@@fuckomcducko2844 they quite literally created a “diversity space tool” that breaks down characters “political correctness” and award them points if they meet certain “quotas” so your statement isn’t far off. Additionally, my statement wasn’t a bash at blizzard but a remark regarding the current political/social climate of our modern age. It’s no secret that most corporations are following the “political correctness” trend as it’s cheap/effective marketing. Go “politically correct” their community will give you praise/market their product for them. Go too “politically correct” and you can later rebrand as going back to your “roots” and sale the same trash will little to no change that you were peddling before and the non “politically correct” crowed will it it up as they’ll consider it “refreshing” after having one sided political views shoved down their throats every second of the day. Blizzard didn’t add/change characters sexuality/gender because they care about representation or the people in those communities they wanted more money and as you put it a nice distraction from the multitude of legitimate issues regarding the game.
I really feel bad for Amélie Lacroix (the woman who’s behind widow). She never had a choice, she was captured, tortured, brainwashed, experimented on and forced to kill her own husband. Now we see that she might be coming back to herself but she as nowhere to go, every OW agents hate her and Talon will never let her free since she’s one of their best Snipers. She’s stuck in a horrible place, wouldn’t surprise me if in a future mission she’ll try to end it.
Love her voice, so smooth and with such a raspy depth, despite all the ups and downs this franchise has, the character work, both as visual design and unique characteristics for such a massive cast remains unreachable.
It's funny that Widow can't accept that Ana saw Widow first, realized who she was, had the time to have second thoughts, and decide not to shoot before window took her shot. What is interesting to me is that WIdowmaker says she was trained by "the best" to Ashe. McCree tells Phara that he was taught to shoot by "the best, that'd be your mother" Widowmaker doesn't even contest to being the best sniper in talon.
@@avatarofdeath ashe was not trained by the best of anything though. widow is 100% the best sniper for talon and there isn't any reasoning to say otherwise. widow is just barely worse than ana, since they saw each other at the same time. ana shot first, but couldn't deal a damaging shot (only breaking widow's helmet), while widow was able to shoot ana in the eye while ana hesitated. ana is overwatch not talon, so therefore widow is the best sniper in talon without any comparison.
@@mentarium9741 Widow says she was trained by the best, so she can't be the best. No one ever said anything about ashe being the best. Ana missed on purpose cause she couldn't kill Amilee My whole point is Cassidy claims Ana is "the best", Widow claims she was trained by "the best". That means there is a sniper in Talon that Widow believes is better than herself and Ana. Super Simple Stuff
Between the line with Moira here, and the line with Soldier about her husband liking roses, i feel like theyre looking to redeem her when the story stuff comes out
For Widowmaker v. Torbjorn, I wish they went with this: Torbjorn: I bet my turret's a better shot than you. Widowmaker: And what are you willing to bet? Torbjorn: The Lindholm reputation! Widowmaker: How about the Lindholm bloodline?
This is just my own little theory, but maybe Widow might have found another lover and is having a baby or something. She told reaper she’s was taking a leave, she’s become way more emotive than she was in ow1, and that line from tracer about trusting her with a baby just felt like it was foreshadowing something
The Moira/Widow interaction imply that Widow has gone through more than a few bouts of "conditioning" and now has a Pavlovian response to her even mentioning emotion which is....disturbing to consider.
i wonder what the lore is though cause according to the cinematics she's still Talon but according to the comics, she shows regret from killing her husband. I wonder if she has broken from her brainwashing or that she just has small lucid moments that let her act like her old self though personally i think she is slowly breaking out. but she's too much like her new self she has no choice but to stay with Talon
she visited his grave with flowers? my hearttt😭😭 yeah, the brainwashing is cracking but she chooses to stay with talon and still act emotionless just so moira wouldn’t notice and do further experiments to brainwash her more.
Where are y’all getting her being scared around Moira? Widow has literally always sounded like that. The weird thing tho is she answered quickly which is unlike her character but that doesn’t equate to being afraid or feeling fear. It’s more of being deceptive
"not close enough to know you prefer roses" is the latter half of another one but unfortunately i spawned in not hearing what came before it.. if anyone knows please tell me
Hold up, Ana actually gagged her lmao. Widow knows that Ana actually eclipses her in raw sniper skill and would've won that duel they had if she didn't show compassion, that's why she antagonizes her every chance she gets.
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It makes sense that Widowmaker is scared of Moira, imagine you were kidnapped and tortured for months then experimented on with very untested methods, and forced to kill the one person you’re closest to, that’s what Moira did to Widowmaker
moira is a mommy tho😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
@@whomiiiy7019 LMFAOOO
@@whomiiiy7019 yep she is 😫 but i feel bad about widowmaker 😢
And that's why Moira will forever be best girl.
That wasn't Moira, Moira was still with Overwatch when Widowmaker was tortured.
From experience I can say that yes, Torb's turret is a way better shot than most Widowmakers out there.
i felt that XD
Well to be fair torbs turret literally can't miss xD
@@DannyDoesWatch its got aimbot so, true
Torbjörn is a national icon, Widowmaker mains want to play CSGO but it was too expensive.
can't headshot tho
Ana could be literally, canonically, bleeding out to certain death and she would still be like "listen kids, you only killed me because I was bored. Now finish it, I have better things to do". And I love it.
well, she only loses her eye because she hesitated to kill Widow after knew her(Widow) identity.
@@littlelw319 Yeah, people forget that Ana is canonically one of, if not THE best sniper in the world. She could've killed widow but hesitating caused her to get shot and she always hated taking lives/killing people.
There's a reason why she was chosen for Overwatch to be a founder when she came from the Egyptian military that consists of snipers, she stands out amongst everyone else as the best.
@@techsoly ana did train Widow and Cassidy, Even widow admitted Ana is the best
she lost an eye and is still at it so yeah i see it.
@@henrypaleveda7760 she lost her eye she used to scope with and just decided 'screw it I have another eye'.
She's using her untrained eye and she's still the best sniper
It's definitely feeling like Widow's conditioning is starting to crack, and we're seeing more of Amelie Lacroix. She's a lot more emotive than she was in OW1.
And most of what she's feeling is anger and disdain. Rightfully so, to be fair.
even her hero selection animation, she looks downright depressed
Her conditioning started cracking with the reveal of the Cote d'Azur skin and associated lore, plus Chateau Guillard becoming a map.
@@QueenStarNova Yep, if you die enough on that map she eventually screams her husbands name when she respawns. It seems Moira is very aware of this too which is why she keeps asking how Widow "feels." Widow is truly starting to come across as a tragic character, she has no escape from Talon. And must continue doing whatever they tell her to, otherwise she has to be reworked by Moira and that seems more horrific than just following the orders given, because at least Widow can still somewhat think for herself and hold onto her memories.
@@alyssajones3607 Anyone else notice that in all the recent Widow skins on OW1 her skin is barely blue anymore but pale grey...but in OW2 it's back to blue and now we get these unsettling Moira voice lines...
the way tracer says who trust you with a baby had me dying
A "baybie" xD
Boybey
Its kinda sad though, I bet Lena knows everything about Amelie's history, the fact that she feels no empathy for her or sympathy kinda feels cold on Tracer's part, considering she is one of the more "look on the bright side" hero's.
@@djtrac3r935 I forget the exact timing of Gerard's death. Could he have been Tracer's mentor or something like that? Would explain her being particularly angry at her.
Hewd trust youoe wif a baybee xD
Lucio legit asked the woman called WIDOWMAKER who her favorite animal was.
i love that she gave him an honest (and obvious) answer though
could have also been the european widow
@@marweha7002 Lmao a Caucasian widow
@@DannyDoesWatch maybe, a lot of options
Well, he's been asking everyone this.
Ana is hands down the sassiest character and no one can surpass her 😎❤️
Seems to me she's just salty with widow lmfao But otherwise yeah
@@aeris_zaeleria9722 I mean in all fairness I’d be a little salty too if I had to work with the lady who shot my eye out and made the world think I was dead
also she killed her husband who was part of overwatch
She has experience.
@@DMFDan2 Didnt Ana herself make the world think she was dead
Like she chose to
Ana really said she's more accurate then widow even if she was blind. After 6 years of Overwatch ill say that's probably true.
I shot. I missed. I shot. I missed again. Another shot. Miss.
@@MagicalMedic had a popsicle, passed out in the snow, reloaded, I shot, missed
perhaps ana secretly has a bionic eye that connects to the scope
The irony is tht she would have lost her eye being the worse shooter anyways.
@@occupiedquill9282 I hit something but it was not what I was going for so I guess I missed
3 things that caught my interest.
1. Amelie seems to be uncomfortable if not down right afraid of Moira. But then again, who wouldn’t be?
2. Amelie and Gabriel seem to have bonded over their “Marital Issues.” Gabriel maybe looking out for her due to his friendship with her ex/dead husband.
3. Amelie had some form of trust for Baptise once. Probably broken now that he left Talon. Maybe bonded over speaking French.
I'm convinced that her conditioning is slowly wearing off. Maybe Moira has been slacking due to her mutations in her arm and is either concerned or fascinated by it so much so that she's been lazy. I'm hoping Widow at some point fully wakes up and can reconcile with some of the cast
Widow was reffering to her husband as the last man she trusted
Technically creole and french aren't one to one but yeah I could def see it
@@praxyi5926 I doubt she's being lazy. She's their top scientists and does experiments on people sigma a lot too.
@@Tuskbumper Well with batise being Haitian, French is the primary language used while Haitian creole is the native language so they both definitely speak French i wouldn't be surprised if batise made some jokes in creole to her that she wouldn't understand tho 😂
Is it me or did Widowmaker answer unusually quickly when Moira asked if she was feeling anything?
sounded quite defensive to me as well
Widowmaker redemption arc confirmed
@@damocles2817 that or she becomes a danger to everyone.
In Overwatch 1, there were some hints that Widowmaker was slowly starting to resist the brainwashing, so she started to get some emotion again.
She's probably afraid of Moira a bit, the experiments they did to her must've been absolutely awful and painful suppose.
I like how reaper and widow are almost sort of friends the way they jab at each other’s tragic backstories.
I'd say probably less friends and just amiable coworkers who can begrudgingly appreciate the other.
It never occurred to me just how terrifying Moira is. Yes, she is a "doctor" who performs terrible experiments on people, but through voicelines alone it is implied that she is incredibly powerful and truly a threat. She can speak to Reinhardt as if he is just a nuisance and even calls him "prey" in one of her voicelines. Not only that, but when interacting with Widow, she has this level of control over her, like seeing a child step out of line so you have to discipline it, but not in a "you did a bad thing" kind of way. Really puts into perspective just how scary she is.
Because Moira slay. Amazing scientist yet a fierce spirit
Yet she still annoyed people like Sigma
I mean yea, she discovered immortality(how Gabriel became reaper) and was the reason why Widowmaker became who she is
@@azrieldalusong5042 yea she’s annoyed that a literal schizo, is smarter than her 💀
the only person i know who isn’t afraid of her is doomfist, he legit says “your services are no longer required” to moira when she dies.
Ana and Widow??? the girls are STILL fighting lmao
Ana and widow ate each other up
They got more beef than a slaughterhouse
ate???? you mean hate????
@@zumaky18 They definitely meant ate. Tracer and widow was throwing some good shade as well.
@@zumaky18 I personally love when someone tries to correct someone and is SO WRONG. Makes me lol haaard
heh
In Overwatch 2, Widowmaker will have voicelines threatening to remove everyone's eyes, apparently.
Girl has a fetish. Don't kink shame.
she loves eye penatration
bastion, you are lucky your eyes....
Who's next on the missing an eye but will get threatened by moira list? Hmmmm, not moira, moira would just shut her brain off or some shit... I really don't know who else is missing an eye
alot characters in overwatch have a misssing eye or have coverings on there eye
I am more than 90% sure Widowmaker will get a redemption arc someday.
God I hope so!
I'm 100% sure.
Widow is leaving talon
She have shown emotion frequently in voicelines lately
wait, is the OH in you name short for Ohio?
It’s not a blizzard game if they don’t give a cold blooded killer a redemption arc.
Interesting how she gets uncomfortable around Moira. Moira rly is THE villain of overwatch
Moira mentally broke her and physically tortured her in the most brutal ways possible so she's probably scared of Moira
Doomfist is nothing now, moira is the true villain. Dooms goals are similar to that of thanos's, but all moira wants to do is experiment to "further her scientific knowledge." She is very clearly a megalomaniac, someone who hungers for power, and will stop at nothing to obtain it. I beilive, towards the end, everyone will team together to try and stop moira, after a lot of redemption arcs ofc.
That explains why I like to play her
She and Doomfist are basically the "pure evil" archetypes, there will be no "redemption arc" for these characters
@@RRRRRRRRR33 doom fist doesnt seem nearly as bad as Moira lol. From hero interaction he sounds like a dude you could go out and have a drink with. Moira just insults basically the whole roster in someway and is just a asshole lol
damn, widow's obsessed with eyes 👁
If you're a sniper I would think the eye is a bullseye, an ultimate bragging rights for a sniper
@@skyesfallin oh yeah that actually kinda makes sense haha
She most likely loves biblical accurate angels!
@@CherryOpera many targets
I was going to ask but I think she might just not like them.
Ana and Junkrat are officially my favorites when it comes to personality. You literally cannot beat them.
Fr
Meanwhile Sombrero in the corner knowing she's the best
For real for real :)) My two mains
@@sharynkerr8378 SOMBRERO LMFAO
I wonder if Moira is hinting at Widow regaining her emotions.. she seemed defensive when answering her, as if Moira was lightly pushing her.
Ofc she provokes her. Moira calls widowmaker and Reaper her experiments. When Moira kills them, she says „every experiment must come to an end”. I would not be surprised if Moira would only check her experiments this way, although I am convinced that she knows from the very beginning that Widowmaker is regaining her emotions back, but she acts as if she teases Amélie to reveal it herself.
Yup. Moira is also the only one to call her by her old name, Lacroix.
When Widow's map was added to OW1 if you play her and die enough times on that map eventually she screams her husband's name at the respawn. Moira was also given an interesting line during that update too. Moira asks Widow "How do you feel Lacroix?" To which Widow responds "I DON'T, isn't that the point?" She puts heavy emphasis on how she doesn't feel anything and quickly tries to brush it off as nothing to please Moira. Because as we learn from the comics, anytime Amelia's brainwashing wears off Moira just works on her again and further tinkers with her body. Widow is highly scared of Moira and is trying everything in her power to keep Moira from noticing the brainwashing is wearing off, because she doesn't want to lose her memories or have to undergo any of the painful experiences Moira will inflict again. Even if that means she has to keep following Talon orders, Widow chooses that so she isn't noticed and can keep whatever part of herself she has regained.
@@alyssajones3607 I would be surprised if she ever recovered if she didn't get PTSD, considering the fact she is basically being forced to work for Talon or else she will be tortured again. I am surprised that Overwatch agent's haven't tried to rescue her so they can try and fix her.
@@djtrac3r935 considering everything she's gone through, I think the PTSD is highly plausible. How the rest of OW hasn't yet figured out she's slowly been recovering from the brainwashing is beyond me. But with Moira constantly keeping an eye on her, and Widow currently staying with Talon to keep appearances for Moira. Perhaps that might factor into why nobody at OW has noticed Amelia is slowly breaking free either. I want to know now why things seem tense between Baptiste and Widow. Bap escaped from Talon, we know that much, so does Widow feel resentment towards him for leaving her behind when he escaped? He did ask her not to tell anyone, then scoffs and tells her it's whatever. Or is she mad at him because he was brave/bold enough to leave what they both know to be a messed up organization, whereas she stays out of fear?
no bc widhoe sounds so scared around moistra
bro what 💀
widhoe lol
OMG truly a genius
Pure poetry.
girl go back to queens of league 😭
As a French person i can assure you that the “Pfff Americans…😒” is VERY accurate 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You're just mad you weren't trained in the West. 😎
French are no better than americans
Go drink the tea that ain’t even that good
BYEEEE I CANT I---
de ouf
Everyone: -breathes-
Moira: Is that an emotion I detect?!
LMFAO FR
"You're less handsome when you talk"
So I guess it's confirmed Widow finds Rein handsome, now le'ts see some art pop up please
God no
@@P07AT0 God YES
ReLAXX
ohhhh the art is comming my friend))
How do you think that fancy jumpsuit of yours would hold up against my...HAMMER?😏
Torbjörn is right, his turret never misses a shot
Unfortunately 😤
2:07 "How about we call a truce?" - "How about I call a mortician?"
One of the coldest lines I've ever heard
Please tell me lucio actually does ask everyone what their favourite animal is
He does, genji says his favourite is a triceratops lol
@@fartmgee thats so cute wth
Still waiting for someone to make a video of all of the voice lines :')
@@Lilian040210 it’s done! sojourn says leopard seals, ram and zen say ants, rein says rhinoceros, forgot the rest
"HOW ABOUT I CALL A MORTICIAN" BYEEEE 💀💀💀💀
“I’d still be the better shot” really hit hard. Ana throwing some serious shade there
Honestly, I don't see why Soldier said that he was warning her husband about her. She was an ordinary woman before, then she got brainwashed. How can you warm someone about something that is so unexpected
He probably knew that she would get captured and turned against him as soldier has probably seen that tactic used countless times before probably
nah i think it was originally just a typical jab guys do about their friends dating women they don't get along with. i think it's just implying they never got along even before she was brainwashed
you have to remember that Widowmaker was left in the hands of her husband for two weeks after the brainwashing. after two weeks at home, she killed him. maybe during this time Jack started to suspect something
wasnt she captured and then saved. Then later on her brainwashing kicked in and she killed her husband at home? so he probably warned him that something was odd, that they could save her easily and shes normally. was probably really suspicious for soldier
He probably warned her after she was captured and reconditioned. Canonically, Amelie went missing for a while and was eventually found. Jack probably sussed out she was brain washed but her husband just laughed it off. Shame, could have lived if he listened to Soldier.
Ok but the Sombra one was just savage
i love how reaper and widowmaker is just casually talking about their personal life while widowmaker and reinhardt is talking about how easy it is to kill each other
the most ordinary conversation in overwatch
to everyone commenting about reapers wife it was revealed in a previous comic. theres alot of lore covered in the comics like soldiers ex boyfriend as well
Wait, is Soldier 76 gay?!
@@oskarengholm6677 who isn’t these days
@@oskarengholm6677 Yep, got quietly confirmed in the Ana short story (or comic?) iirc. I think it was the Bastet short story
@@JohnDoe3-1-4 normally i would object to people trashing on gay rep in games but solider’s queerifying was so obviously a last attempt by blizzard to
hold down a part of their community by pandering before their big scandal collapse.
@@fuckomcducko2844 they quite literally created a “diversity space tool” that breaks down characters “political correctness” and award them points if they meet certain “quotas” so your statement isn’t far off. Additionally, my statement wasn’t a bash at blizzard but a remark regarding the current political/social climate of our modern age. It’s no secret that most corporations are following the “political correctness” trend as it’s cheap/effective marketing. Go “politically correct” their community will give you praise/market their product for them. Go too “politically correct” and you can later rebrand as going back to your “roots” and sale the same trash will little to no change that you were peddling before and the non “politically correct” crowed will it it up as they’ll consider it “refreshing” after having one sided political views shoved down their throats every second of the day. Blizzard didn’t add/change characters sexuality/gender because they care about representation or the people in those communities they wanted more money and as you put it a nice distraction from the multitude of legitimate issues regarding the game.
Things I've learned from this video:
1. Widow is scared of Moira
2. She likes collecting eyes (duh, she needs 8 of them)
only four more; she's half way there. watch out before she starts collecting legs.
"I bet my turret's a better shot than you" objectively true.
To be fair, Torbjorn's turret is more accurate than Widow, it actually has a 100% accuracy
I really feel bad for Amélie Lacroix (the woman who’s behind widow). She never had a choice, she was captured, tortured, brainwashed, experimented on and forced to kill her own husband. Now we see that she might be coming back to herself but she as nowhere to go, every OW agents hate her and Talon will never let her free since she’s one of their best Snipers. She’s stuck in a horrible place, wouldn’t surprise me if in a future mission she’ll try to end it.
Just let me play her, they'll want to switch to another hero right away.
0:54
That random kid who goes up and talks to everyone.
This is why I love widow, she doesn't care. Plus the French accent makes it 10 times better
Judging by the voice lines with Moira, it seems she DOES care, she is terrified of Moira. Hence her Hasty responses to her questions.
So HOTT!!
Bor am french and this is the most handsome french accent I ever heard... In France now everyone speaks horribly
Yuck,french accent 🤢
@@moistysquers stay mad😂
I like how she has a vaguely friendly tone with Reyes
"What's your favorite animal?"
"The Black widow"
Why am I not surprised?
💀💀💀
Congrats that’s the point of the dialogue/joke.
I would have been surprised if it was "Cat"
I wonder who her favorite actor and comic book character is 🤨
I read that as " What is your favourite anime ?"
Love her voice, so smooth and with such a raspy depth, despite all the ups and downs this franchise has, the character work, both as visual design and unique characteristics for such a massive cast remains unreachable.
It's funny that Widow can't accept that Ana saw Widow first, realized who she was, had the time to have second thoughts, and decide not to shoot before window took her shot.
What is interesting to me is that WIdowmaker says she was trained by "the best" to Ashe. McCree tells Phara that he was taught to shoot by "the best, that'd be your mother"
Widowmaker doesn't even contest to being the best sniper in talon.
Probably bc it was also a part of Talons reconditioning, I guess they taught her to think that she's the best and trained by the best.
What does Cassidy's training with Ana have to do with Ashe's training? Cassidy deserted the Deadlock Gang and THEN joined Overwatch
@@RegeneratinDegenerat you need to learn reading comprehension. It's about the phrase "the best" and whom it refers to.
@@avatarofdeath ashe was not trained by the best of anything though. widow is 100% the best sniper for talon and there isn't any reasoning to say otherwise. widow is just barely worse than ana, since they saw each other at the same time. ana shot first, but couldn't deal a damaging shot (only breaking widow's helmet), while widow was able to shoot ana in the eye while ana hesitated. ana is overwatch not talon, so therefore widow is the best sniper in talon without any comparison.
@@mentarium9741 Widow says she was trained by the best, so she can't be the best.
No one ever said anything about ashe being the best.
Ana missed on purpose cause she couldn't kill Amilee
My whole point is Cassidy claims Ana is "the best", Widow claims she was trained by "the best". That means there is a sniper in Talon that Widow believes is better than herself and Ana.
Super Simple Stuff
That "ugh Americans" thats by far my fav part 😂
I still wish I knew how these characters would ever have these conversations without immediately murdering eachother.
Agreed, expect for ones that are on their side
I get the feeling Reaper and Widow have bonded through the years, the ruthless exchange of sas is on besties level
0:18 I love this line. It just points out how ridiculous some outfits are in war. Like high heels and jumpsuits lol
Between the line with Moira here, and the line with Soldier about her husband liking roses, i feel like theyre looking to redeem her when the story stuff comes out
0:54 has the same energy as that one meme "could i get a ticket" "for what movie?" *pans to a guy in full spiderman cosplay*
For Widowmaker v. Torbjorn, I wish they went with this:
Torbjorn: I bet my turret's a better shot than you.
Widowmaker: And what are you willing to bet?
Torbjorn: The Lindholm reputation!
Widowmaker: How about the Lindholm bloodline?
its funny coz torb is kinda countering widow
@@goblinslayer310 nah, Widow only has 1 counter, the MONKE
She has a soft spot for Bastion perhaps?
I think she envy’s him because she thinks he has no emotion at all. But we know that’s far from the truth.
@@rooroorogers8538 Yeah that makes more sense now
This is just my own little theory, but maybe Widow might have found another lover and is having a baby or something. She told reaper she’s was taking a leave, she’s become way more emotive than she was in ow1, and that line from tracer about trusting her with a baby just felt like it was foreshadowing something
Nahhh, sorry but aint no way thats true
The Moira/Widow interaction imply that Widow has gone through more than a few bouts of "conditioning" and now has a Pavlovian response to her even mentioning emotion which is....disturbing to consider.
"Do not speak to me unless you wish to lose your other eye"
"I'd still be the better shot"
got DAMN she went off
ANA JUST COOKED HER UP AHH!
1:33 perfection
1:24 that was a good one
Genevieve O'Reilly saying " Lacroix " is something I didn't know I wanted till today
Of all the characters in the game, I think Moira would be the only one who's truly really evil, She enjoys what she does and doesn't have any humanity
I wanna see a compilation of all of Lúcio's favorite animal voicelines
Moira's VA is on another level, gives me chills.
Its been 6 years and only now i get widowmaker’s code name
moira constantly psychoanalyzing her is actually incredible consistency to her origin story tho
2:33 Torb just described Bronze in a nutshell
moira slayed
Widowmaker has a strange obsession with taking peoples eyes
1:03 Daaamn Ana completely destroyed Widow
I want more interactions between widow and Moira they are the best
Why did I first thought of widows and Moiras voice line (the first one) as Moira hinting widows suicidal
I noticed that their mouths still aren't moving when they talk. I was hoping they would update that by now.
That Ashe and Widow interaction was spicy
I think it’s funny that widow and reaper talk casually about there lives
"I'd still be a better shot"
That was cold
“And that guy’s eye!”
i wonder what the lore is though
cause according to the cinematics she's still Talon
but according to the comics, she shows regret from killing her husband. I wonder if she has broken from her brainwashing or that she just has small lucid moments that let her act like her old self
though personally i think she is slowly breaking out. but she's too much like her new self she has no choice but to stay with Talon
RIGHT, and the fact that she visited Gerard in his tomb with flowers really means something.
she visited his grave with flowers? my hearttt😭😭 yeah, the brainwashing is cracking but she chooses to stay with talon and still act emotionless just so moira wouldn’t notice and do further experiments to brainwash her more.
The one with Ashe really got me dead loool props to whoever wrote that joke he/she deserves a bloody raise
"How about I call a mortician." Well, damn.
"That was not an invitation to talk to me." I'm dead.
She's really good at shooting eyes without killing people apparently
Where are y’all getting her being scared around Moira? Widow has literally always sounded like that. The weird thing tho is she answered quickly which is unlike her character but that doesn’t equate to being afraid or feeling fear. It’s more of being deceptive
Yo mama
Some of these lines are in the first game but I’m glad I thought they were gonna throw away all the old interactions when ow2 drops
Hearing Rein not loud and jolly is.. kinda scary
Damn, she's got more bite in this one. I'm excited to see all the characters develop. I may not enjoy the game a lot, but I love the lore
Is it odd that Reaper seems the most open to talk, if even a little bit?
That was not an invitation to talk to me
The way she hunts for eyes, you'd think she needs eight of them... oh, wait.
Ana always knows just what to say. An effortless roast 😂😭
these voicelines are brilliant
"not close enough to know you prefer roses" is the latter half of another one but unfortunately i spawned in not hearing what came before it.. if anyone knows please tell me
bastion mind.exe has stopped working
Reaper has a wife ;_; Damit
and a kid
She's always been my favourite character. A literal stone cold savage.
"That was not an invitation to talk to me" had me laughing so hard
My favorite line from the first game: "What's an Aimbot?"
"It’s not noise, it’s Music!"
"Well, you’re making too much Music!-👿"
Love that 😂💜
Hold up, Ana actually gagged her lmao. Widow knows that Ana actually eclipses her in raw sniper skill and would've won that duel they had if she didn't show compassion, that's why she antagonizes her every chance she gets.
torbjorn facing the wrong way was hilarious
"And I'd still be the better shot"
There's no coming back
Everyone else around Widowmaker: Either scared, bitter or trying to stay out of her way
Lúcio: What’s your favourite animal? 😊