@@ande5460Is it not a boutique-only model anyways? I thought so, and indeed in the boutiques they are quite available. I was told from two different boutiques in Switzerland that the wait would be a matter of a few weeks only.
@@benjzh I am not sure if it is boutique only, the ADs I have talked to had a list and expect to get them eventually. I unfortunately have no boutiques in my state so out of luck unless I take a mini vacation to travel to one.
@@ande5460 my Midwest AD told me the same thing I heard from Boutiques… it’s not a tough get. If your AD is saying more than a few months, go somewhere else. Hell even call a boutique!
I think this is a great generation for the Speedy. The black dial 3861 draws in first time buyers (like me!) who are buying into the Speedy for the first time and want the classic, while the white dial 3861 gives an excuse to old collectors who already have a black Speedy to buy into the newer, dressier generation and to people who never got into the black dial Speedy because it was too businesslike. There's even the MoonSwatch for the kids to play with.
Great video! The new white Speedmaster is a homerun imho, and it’s such a lovely and fun iteration of a classic design that will excite Speedy enthusiasts as well as win new collectors who never warmed up to the original black dial. Watch of the year for me!
I have been trying many speedmaster for years until I brought this white dial version. I kept wearing it for the last month. This speedmaster white dial is just an excellent piece that must buy this year…
Omega are getting much better at the whole 'hype watch' thing - good for them. I remember when yet another new speedmaster variant would be greeted with a yawn and light mockery, now everyone is just talking about the waiting list.
This is why they released the white Speedmaster: most people already had a an older moonwatch and did not find the updated 3861 a big enough reason to pull the trigger on a black 3861 moonwatch. The movement wasn’t, the sapphire wasn’t, nor was the bracelet alone. The white aesthetic aspect did. So now everyone can enjoy the new movement and bracelet. This white 3861 “moonwatch” gives everyone a reason to go for the updated one.
I do not particularly like Speedmasters but when I tried the white one on I bought it. It’s fun, wears well and is quite versatile. It was also my first boutique purchase, as most of my other purchases have been of Rolex, which can only be bought in the gray market. It was a good purchasing experience.
But how do you get on the VP list without getting on the waitlist several times first? Porsche does the same thing. They’ve become investments. Really annoying for people actually interested in the product itself and have to choose between Rolex to check it off the list, or an objectively better watch for the same price.
@@stocksxbondage Easy, you walk in and buy several diamond bezel women’s datejusts that no one really wants. Watch a steel sub suddenly become available after that 😂
@rawrrawr7292 so not only is the Sub overpriced. It’s REALLY going to cost as much as an AP Royal Oak Chronograph by the time you finally get on the VIP list 🙄
The AD in Glendale, California has at least three of them, and the salesman I dealt with to buy my Breitling Aerospace said that they simply aren’t selling.
@@watch_a_watch pretty much every major city AD has like 5 in the back house. These video of 1 year wait list were never true. My 19 year old nephew with zero spend history were offered one and this back in May.
I was adamant that I'll be getting the white Speedy this year end, then i saw the new Tag Heuer Carrera Chronograph and Skipper. So now i'm torn. It's crazy to consider a Tag against an Omega but those 2 are just gorgeous. With better water resistance too (although lacking that beautiful caseback view)
Pretty much everybody sees the new white dial and says “oh yea I think I want that”. Same thing with the moonshine gold speedy. This one is a little easier to justify.
Are you sure? I'm waiting for my wimbledon 36mm, and the AD doesn't have any in stock because their deliveries are random, and they don't know what they'll have coming in.
@@melvin_eatspoint is it’s a VIP list, not a wait list. Spend enough at the AD, for example, be a Grey dealer or flipper, or a high roller who buys a ton of jewelry,and you can get anything. I’ve had some success, but I target the less popular models (just got a black dial Explorer 2 which I love, took 3 years from a new AD).
Still too bloody big for my 6.4" wrist. Sick of Omega now. Got rid of my Seamaster for feeling like a brick, too. If they make this in 38mm, or one like the old-styled Marui, I'm all in.
The wait list is artificial. It’s identical, apart from the dial. So take the % of the black dial/identiacal version that you are not selling and up the production of the white dial. Ramp up would take a few months and the disruption to the production line relatively minimal
Every collector should have a Speedmaster? Couldn’t disagree more. I like the Speedy but I will never buy it and I actually tried it on my wrist before
- 3 Hz movement on a 2024 Chronograph... I dont know whether to laugh 😂 or cry 😢 I compensated on my 4 Hz Speedmaster 9904 movement because at least its a Moonphase, and automatic co-axial.
If they're willing to transform the historic watch like this, they should have the balls to drop the impractical manual winding movement that only lasts for 2 days and go with one of their excellent automatic movements.
Why? Because of the 42mm diameter? It actually wears much smaller than that, the bracelet being so well integrated and comfortable, and the thickness of the case rather contained. 40mm is the max I like to wear in general, and the speedy sits perfectly for me.
Omega is watch for people at the top of their game and not gender confused with a crown on their wrist. People who just want to “pretend” they’re part of standout class of achievers should not be wearing Omega, your just embarrassing yourself.
Those Omega reference numbers just roll right off the tongue.
My AD had 3 in stock. Picked one up last weekend...Magnifique!
How much did you pay?
@@kostar500 $8400
I thought the white is an Omega boutique exclusive piece?
@@jasonpwlboutique and AD but boutique get to sell it first.
One minute: There’s a waitlist for this watch. Next minute: my friend and his dad bought one
Because they placed their order 1.5-2 years before the release, because they are such fans. Makes totally sense to me.
That’s because they are on the privileged list of customers! It’s absolutely normal
A 2 year wait? That dealer is lying. Lol I’ve been told by flagship locations in NY and Chicago that it is 6-8 weeks tops.
i put my name at the 5th ave boutique as soon as they announced it, and got the call like 5 weeks after. they’re pretty available
That may be true at boutiques but ADs, at least near me, are still not getting any of them in.
@@ande5460Is it not a boutique-only model anyways? I thought so, and indeed in the boutiques they are quite available. I was told from two different boutiques in Switzerland that the wait would be a matter of a few weeks only.
@@benjzh I am not sure if it is boutique only, the ADs I have talked to had a list and expect to get them eventually. I unfortunately have no boutiques in my state so out of luck unless I take a mini vacation to travel to one.
@@ande5460 my Midwest AD told me the same thing I heard from Boutiques… it’s not a tough get. If your AD is saying more than a few months, go somewhere else. Hell even call a boutique!
Omega boutiques in Korea have these immediately available, saw one yesterday and price was $7500 tax free
I think this is a great generation for the Speedy. The black dial 3861 draws in first time buyers (like me!) who are buying into the Speedy for the first time and want the classic, while the white dial 3861 gives an excuse to old collectors who already have a black Speedy to buy into the newer, dressier generation and to people who never got into the black dial Speedy because it was too businesslike. There's even the MoonSwatch for the kids to play with.
Great video! The new white Speedmaster is a homerun imho, and it’s such a lovely and fun iteration of a classic design that will excite Speedy enthusiasts as well as win new collectors who never warmed up to the original black dial. Watch of the year for me!
I have been trying many speedmaster for years until I brought this white dial version. I kept wearing it for the last month. This speedmaster white dial is just an excellent piece that must buy this year…
Omega are getting much better at the whole 'hype watch' thing - good for them. I remember when yet another new speedmaster variant would be greeted with a yawn and light mockery, now everyone is just talking about the waiting list.
This is why they released the white Speedmaster: most people already had a an older moonwatch and did not find the updated 3861 a big enough reason to pull the trigger on a black 3861 moonwatch. The movement wasn’t, the sapphire wasn’t, nor was the bracelet alone. The white aesthetic aspect did. So now everyone can enjoy the new movement and bracelet.
This white 3861 “moonwatch” gives everyone a reason to go for the updated one.
True
Thank you for making high quality videos!Love mamacoo ’s watches
I do not particularly like Speedmasters but when I tried the white one on I bought it. It’s fun, wears well and is quite versatile. It was also my first boutique purchase, as most of my other purchases have been of Rolex, which can only be bought in the gray market. It was a good purchasing experience.
Home run from Omega!
incredible video.
Hodinkee wanta us to believe its 2022
There is no wait list at Rolex ADs, just VIP lists.
But how do you get on the VP list without getting on the waitlist several times first? Porsche does the same thing. They’ve become investments. Really annoying for people actually interested in the product itself and have to choose between Rolex to check it off the list, or an objectively better watch for the same price.
@@stocksxbondage Easy, you walk in and buy several diamond bezel women’s datejusts that no one really wants. Watch a steel sub suddenly become available after that 😂
@rawrrawr7292 so not only is the Sub overpriced. It’s REALLY going to cost as much as an AP Royal Oak Chronograph by the time you finally get on the VIP list 🙄
Why is a mass produced white lacquer dial difficult to produce?
The machinery and materials have been in place for years.
Got one on the ralley strap. Really nice watch.
That intro music was wonderful.
When you making changes to an icon like the omega speed master you have to thread carefully: moonSwatch: hold my beer 😂😂😂
A year and a half ? lol. 6-12 weeks is what I was told. No history nothing.
The AD in Glendale, California has at least three of them, and the salesman I dealt with to buy my Breitling Aerospace said that they simply aren’t selling.
they are.
@@watch_a_watch pretty much every major city AD has like 5 in the back house. These video of 1 year wait list were never true.
My 19 year old nephew with zero spend history were offered one and this back in May.
This is the first moonwatch I'm actually interested in
Gorgeous watch on the top of my list. Great video. Thanks
Long live da 'dinkee!
Very nice
Weird that this watch that has a two year wait list was available for two people who randomly walked in to get it
Walked into Omega boutique in Madrid and got it about a month back.
I was adamant that I'll be getting the white Speedy this year end, then i saw the new Tag Heuer Carrera Chronograph and Skipper. So now i'm torn. It's crazy to consider a Tag against an Omega but those 2 are just gorgeous. With better water resistance too (although lacking that beautiful caseback view)
Lovely watch but seen some reviews that say build quality is poor, I will wait till problems are sorted.
Added to my black 3861.👏🇦🇺
Why doesn't it hve a ceramic bezel insert?
The music in the first 4 min is completely incongruent 😂
Mark definitely has that right amount of watch tism that makes me like Hodinkee again
The white dial speedmaster racing on a black perforated leather strap beats this.
@hodinkee - Do we know the wrist size for reference please ?
Pretty much everybody sees the new white dial and says “oh yea I think I want that”. Same thing with the moonshine gold speedy. This one is a little easier to justify.
More water resistance would be nice.
Oh silly Hodinkee, there is no actual waitlist for Rolex. We all know that.
Are you sure? I'm waiting for my wimbledon 36mm, and the AD doesn't have any in stock because their deliveries are random, and they don't know what they'll have coming in.
@@melvin_eatspoint is it’s a VIP list, not a wait list. Spend enough at the AD, for example, be a Grey dealer or flipper, or a high roller who buys a ton of jewelry,and you can get anything. I’ve had some success, but I target the less popular models (just got a black dial Explorer 2 which I love, took 3 years from a new AD).
What are you talking about?
@@melvin_eats they have one in their safe, they just don’t want to sell to you. Wake up
@@SinnMaster if they don’t want to sell it to you means the end result is the same as being on a genuine wait list.
Is it only me but I really prefer the black version. Also for me a competitor is the white dial explorer II which I actually would like more ..
38mm would be cool!
If they only had 38mm version with 12mm thickness 😊
You look like Ethan Suplee.
Super
💯 buy with a decent discount when it’s no longer boutique only.
A better watch than a Rolex with no “waitlist” 👍🏻
I mis Brandon 😢
Is he gone?
@@bdg5593 rip in peace my dude
Love omega white face
no 2 year waitlist lol.
Still too bloody big for my 6.4" wrist. Sick of Omega now. Got rid of my Seamaster for feeling like a brick, too. If they make this in 38mm, or one like the old-styled Marui, I'm all in.
The main competitor is the black OG moonwatch not the Daytona
Wait list is fake. I got my white moonwatch 30 days after it was launched. :)
Nice 🤍
The wait list is artificial. It’s identical, apart from the dial. So take the % of the black dial/identiacal version that you are not selling and up the production of the white dial. Ramp up would take a few months and the disruption to the production line relatively minimal
The white dial Speedmaster is so much better looking than the Daytona. It isn’t even close: Speedy wins hands down!
Give Grandpa his watch back!
Well , The Omega speedmaster Reduced albino , is so mutch better 🌴☀️ 39 mm , no red logo .
Got it today after a 5 month wait.
Huh I could watch in and get the white dial pretty much most omega AD… so cap
2 years wait list… 😂 let the hobby become enjoyable again and don’t try to hype watches for a quick buck please.
Nasa vibes, i love this so much
Every collector should have a Speedmaster? Couldn’t disagree more. I like the Speedy but I will never buy it and I actually tried it on my wrist before
Im so glad its not a Panda, homerun
I like this watch. Having both Omega and Rolex I would not mind having this over Daytona.
yeah but omega could be bought for 7k and Daytona for at least 37k . right only competitor . duh . its like comparing zonda to continental gt .
Duh, does daytone technically superior? If based on pricing, why not compare all the way to hublot or richard mille level, shall we?
- 3 Hz movement on a 2024 Chronograph... I dont know whether to laugh 😂 or cry 😢
I compensated on my 4 Hz Speedmaster 9904 movement because at least its a Moonphase, and automatic co-axial.
Great watch. Bad presenter
If they're willing to transform the historic watch like this, they should have the balls to drop the impractical manual winding movement that only lasts for 2 days and go with one of their excellent automatic movements.
Manual wind keeps the chronograph thin
@@porscherainTell your mom that.
Automatic Omegas are excessively thick
He lost me when he compared this to the Daytona
Omega is not side by side with Rolex….more like Heuer
Worry less about what other people think? This is not a solid gold rolex…
James and Tony should leave Hodinkee
Just get a plastic speedmaster if you want an omega.
based horologist
Boring watch for me, Panda style works better.
Still unwearable for most people
Why? Because of the 42mm diameter? It actually wears much smaller than that, the bracelet being so well integrated and comfortable, and the thickness of the case rather contained. 40mm is the max I like to wear in general, and the speedy sits perfectly for me.
For most midgets maybe
Peak Hodinkee comment.
(Brainless, unimaginative, out of touch)
Ps. Speedy is a 40mm watch.
False
Omega is watch for people at the top of their game and not gender confused with a crown on their wrist. People who just want to “pretend” they’re part of standout class of achievers should not be wearing Omega, your just embarrassing yourself.
pure class
Super