How to Shorten a Gas Pipe to Fit an Oven | Ask This Old House

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  • Ask This Old House plumbing and heating expert Richard Trethewey shortens a gas pipe for a homeowner whose new stove does not fit against the wall because it is getting stuck on the pipe.
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    Time: 2-3 hours
    Cost: $50
    Skill Level: Expert - for professionals only
    Tools List for Shortening a Gas Pipe:
    Open-ended adjustable wrench [amzn.to/2JeiYkV]
    Pipe wrenches [amzn.to/2Lg5PKE]
    Shopping List:
    Pipe dope [amzn.to/2UTxfW2]
    Leak detector test [amzn.to/2Wh26h5]
    Steps:
    1. Working with gas is dangerous and should be left to a licensed professional.
    2. Start by shutting off the gas to the meter using a wrench.
    3. Carefully slide the stove out until you can fit behind it to break the connections.
    4. Disconnect the flexible gas line from the gas piping using the pipe wrenches.
    5. With the pipe wrenches still in hand, loosen the gas piping and the shut off from the pipes below the floor. Since gas pipes usually go in before any finish work happens, there’s a chance that twisting the pipe will damage the wall a little behind it when the shut off begins to twist.
    6. Unthread the gas pipe from the shut off valve.
    7. Replace the gas pipe with a smaller pipe. Be sure to choose a size that’s long enough to reach all the way through the floor, but short enough to allow for the additional height of the flexible gas line to the stove. To thread the pipe, apply a generous coat of pipe dope to the threads and be sure to tighten it using the pipe wrenches.
    8. With the shorter pipe secured to the gas shut off, apply more pipe dope to the thread on the other side of the short pipe. Send it back through the floor and tighten it to the rest of the gas line using the pipe wrenches. Be sure to tighten it until the gas shut off is parallel to the wall so you’re still able to access the shut off as needed.
    9. Reconnect the flexible gas line from the stove to the shut off on the pipe. Slide the stove back into place.
    10. Turn the gas back on. Test all the new work for leaks by applying a soap solution along all the new connections. If any bubbles form in the solution, it means air is escaping somewhere and the connections aren’t sealed tightly enough. If there are no bubbles, then the gas line is perfectly sealed.
    Resources:
    Richard emphasizes that working with gas is extremely dangerous and should be left to a licensed professional.
    All of the tools and materials Richard used to shorten the gas pipe, including the replacement nipple, pipe dope, pipe wrenches, and the soap test, can all be found at home centers.
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  • @aurvaroy6670
    @aurvaroy6670 Před 3 lety +63

    Should've installed a shut off valve in the basement

  • @MoparDan
    @MoparDan Před 3 lety +39

    "You were a great help." He didn't do a Goddamn thing!

    • @mollysaetern5466
      @mollysaetern5466 Před 3 lety +4

      he was a great actor.

    • @smzslider
      @smzslider Před 3 lety +5

      He helped move the stove 💪

    • @bobtopper7867
      @bobtopper7867 Před rokem +2

      He stayed the hell out of the way. For him that was as much as he was going to help 😅

    • @nicks3701
      @nicks3701 Před 4 měsíci

      It’s 5:25 am and I can’t stop laughing

  • @mikemarlowe6102
    @mikemarlowe6102 Před 3 lety +14

    Richard : I’m a professional, that why I can say “lefty loosie”

    • @sylkelster
      @sylkelster Před 4 měsíci

      (Generally speaking) Pros don't have to refer to rhymes to remember tightening / loosening sequences.

  • @boby115
    @boby115 Před 5 lety +46

    I have been a gas fitter/ service technician for 35 years for the gas utility in St Louis Missouri and would like to go over some of the shortcomings in this video. Number one ,before turning the gas off to the home you should do a general inspection of all the gas appliances that are about to be turned off. Number two, any Appliance with a standing pilot should be turned off manually and the pilot safety proven ( this procedure will eliminate any air being sucked in throughput pilot assemblies and assure you the pilot safeties are working ). Number three, turn electrical controlled gas appliances off at the thermostat so units do not call for heat while you have the gas turned off. Number four, turn the gas off like shown in the video. Number 5, replace the the pipe nipple like shown in the video with one difference ( replace the extremely old core type shut off with a new ballcock style valve and all used flex connectors should be replaced with a new one).. Number 5, install the anti-tip device the gas range was shipped with, this is a national code requirement ,no exceptions. Number 6, a low(inchs) pressure test with a manometer should be performed before the gas is turned back on. The days of spotting the test hand on the gas meter are over ,due to the use of smart meters.The tolerances of the multiple drives on the index cause a spot test to be inaccurate. Number seven, keep the manometer on the system so the incoming gas pressures can be tested. If any discrepancies are found in the gas pressure ,turn the gas back off and immediately contact your gas supplier ASAP. Number eight, after the work & tests are completed the gas can be turned back on to the fuel run system. Always turn gas systems on in a very slow manner. Number 9, test the work that was performed with an electronic leak detector and approved soap solution. Number 10, since the gas was turned off to the entire home you just became responsible for all the gas appliances not just the one you installed. This means that you are not just checking the installed gas appliance for safe and proper operation but you are checking all gas appliances for safe and proper operations.
    As Richard said this type of work should only be performed buy a licensed and experienced technician.Also one familiar with the current codes and latest Technical Training. The gas industry is a rapidly changing industry. The problem I am seeing is the lack of experienced and well-trained people. This is becoming all too obvious ( the over pressurized gas Mains in Andover , North Andover and Lawrence Massachusetts, killing one and injuring multiple people. The damage gas Main in Durham, North Carolina hit by a directional bore machine; 2 dead and multiple people injured. House explosion in Texas, killing a teenaged cheerleader making breakfast Saturday before practice). This all happened recently and I feel all were preventable through proper training and experience. The test equipment and materials we use now have never been better, so this leaves me to believe the Lac of training and experience can be the only cause of all these incidents.

    • @Noah-qt3rq
      @Noah-qt3rq Před 5 lety +1

      Thank you for posting this Bob.

    • @carlitosaqui
      @carlitosaqui Před 5 lety

      Just wondering since I don't live in CONUS, In a cement with tile flooring do you still use the anti-tipping device?

    • @DONALD1951
      @DONALD1951 Před 5 lety +1

      No need to check pilot safeties till after when you relight the pilots. Soap and water is adequate.
      No need for a manometer. Gas has to be turned on slowly in a high pressure system.
      If controls aren’t functioning on the other appliances notify the homeowner and they have to pay.
      Obviously, you didn’t cause the problem.
      He should have tightened the nipple going through the floor beneath the floor...not from above...ok to start it from above but you want to be right at the connection while tightening...then go upstairs and screw together one at a time.

    • @boby115
      @boby115 Před 5 lety

      @@DONALD1951 pilot safeties you are correct, don't care if you check them first or last as long as they are checked. Problem found on a customer's equipment, customer always pays. If you restore gas to a hazardous Appliance and indeed you're the one that left it on, if something happens you just became one of the liable. You are correct on tightening the nipples at the particular fitting you're going into. There's no way Richard got that nipple started upstairs( perhaps one of the cameramen helped him get it started ? ). This is the 21st century , tick rate electronic Leak Detectors and approved soap solution is the only way to go. We are creatures of habit, if you turn on all gas systems slowly the chances of making a mistake are minimized ( you are correct that was a low pressure system most likely 7 " water column, since there's no regulator there would be no chance on rupturing the diaphragm if you turned it on rapidly but even at 7 " why would you want to slam you're gas controls?). I'm not sure why you would not want to use a manometer to check pressures and pressure test the total system. By you turning off the gas utility & turning it back on you just became one of the liable ones. So what you're telling me is no information on the gas system is better than information. Having been involved with depositions and trial testimonies in the gas industry I can assure you ,no need for a manometer is something you do not want to tell the trial attorney. You may want to make sure your insurance premiums are paid.

    • @poeticthoughts06
      @poeticthoughts06 Před 5 lety +2

      k.

  • @timtaffinder
    @timtaffinder Před 4 lety +42

    I like how the title is "How To" but then he goes on to say "This should only be done by a licensed professional"

    • @machzel08
      @machzel08 Před 4 lety +12

      By showing you How To you are now more informed. You know the procedure so you can speak more intelligently when describing your problem to a trained professional.

    • @RoastBeefSandwich
      @RoastBeefSandwich Před 3 lety +10

      "You shouldn't do it yourself, but if you're going to anyway here's how to do it"

    • @zack9912000
      @zack9912000 Před 3 lety +5

      He also shows the wrong way to do it btw. He didn't replace the old worn out valve and didn't do a leak check

    • @tselinsky6452
      @tselinsky6452 Před 3 lety +3

      @@RoastBeefSandwich my thoughts exactly, more like "since you're going to anyway'

    • @aldenrichie
      @aldenrichie Před 2 lety +2

      This is just for liability. "This is how a professional would do it.... But if you do it and blow yourself up we can say we told you not to" lol

  • @sylkelster
    @sylkelster Před 4 měsíci +1

    Nice well lit basement area. I would vacuum the top of that elbow below the floor to remove dust and debris from falling in the pipe.

  • @harveysmith6337
    @harveysmith6337 Před 5 lety +26

    Fail! That gas valve should have been replaced with a ball valve. Shame on you guys.

  • @bkoz319
    @bkoz319 Před 5 lety +153

    i would have replaced that gas valve

    • @jeffreyjohn2037
      @jeffreyjohn2037 Před 4 lety +10

      Eggsackly. And he didn't check the fittings behind the stove with leak detector

    • @kalijasin
      @kalijasin Před 4 lety +5

      @bkoz319, agreed. it looked a little worn out.

    • @MikeJonesRichardson
      @MikeJonesRichardson Před 4 lety +3

      Agree

    • @alexveitia6909
      @alexveitia6909 Před 4 lety +10

      Another hack job by Richard.

    • @RusherResiElectric
      @RusherResiElectric Před 4 lety +4

      Amen, while you have it apart, take the time to put a new shutoff valve on.

  • @morbo3000
    @morbo3000 Před 5 lety +14

    Maybe clean the dirty connection you're about to reattach the pipe to. You can see the threads screwing into dirt.

    • @jeffreyjohn2037
      @jeffreyjohn2037 Před 4 lety +2

      That's typical of him, the hack

    • @fizwin1
      @fizwin1 Před 2 lety +2

      I vacuum everything before and after I take it apart

  • @bigvegass
    @bigvegass Před 5 lety +15

    Came in for comments from ",experts". Was not disappointed

    • @daveclark8337
      @daveclark8337 Před 3 lety

      Hey, as a Certified Master Keyboard Plumber, I resemble that remark.

  • @frankpesce3082
    @frankpesce3082 Před 2 lety

    Very helpful thank you

  • @coleve8596
    @coleve8596 Před 5 lety +11

    First thing is not to shut off the gas, but to carry out a soundness or tightness test to ascertain if there are any leaks on the existing system and again when completed. This way you know which part you have a leak on. Secondly all he had to do was remove the valve above the floor and insert a 90 degree bend and refit.

    • @DONALD1951
      @DONALD1951 Před 5 lety

      Colin Nicol Do a complete pipe leak test to do a simple repair...never done.
      There wasn’t enough room to just put a 90 on top.

  • @telosfd
    @telosfd Před 5 měsíci

    Most of all i like the way that man used pipe wrenches!

  • @Jesse-gv9tf
    @Jesse-gv9tf Před 3 lety +2

    This seems easy enough for an afternoon project.

  • @phillipkirby502
    @phillipkirby502 Před 3 lety +2

    New gas stop at stove. Teflon tape on threads plus green pipe dope that is made for gas lines...
    At least that is how we would do it in Kentucky.

  • @jackmule1572
    @jackmule1572 Před 4 lety +6

    Recommended: Install elbow, so flexible hose wont get dammage.

  • @oldschooldiy3240
    @oldschooldiy3240 Před 4 lety +8

    And the homeowner still does not have an inline gas shutoff for the stove......SMH

  • @nicholasbrehm7989
    @nicholasbrehm7989 Před 5 lety +10

    If you're going though all that trouble you should have changed out the valve. I work for a gas company and I can't tell you how many times I go to house for leaks on older valve like that.

    • @AirARTBBQ
      @AirARTBBQ Před 5 lety +2

      Ive always change those valves and at the end of the yr. I have just enough for two buckets of brass.

    • @jason-ge5nr
      @jason-ge5nr Před 5 lety

      i assure you thats why he did not show leak checking that part of the install. Cause that valve is leaking.

    • @anthonyevans7129
      @anthonyevans7129 Před 3 lety

      Always change those isolation valves since you shut the gas off anyway lol those older ones always leak

  • @salvatoresaccoccio2379

    When I was in trade school with the union in New York we would have to add lamp wick to the threads , gas or water it didn’t matter also a pressure test on the gas line.

  • @ethanhartle8548
    @ethanhartle8548 Před 5 lety +33

    Nice video, but one question. If this is too dangerous for a homeowner, why did they make a how to video?

    • @BEsterle
      @BEsterle Před 5 lety +22

      They just have to say it is to dangerous to appease the lawyers...

    • @machzel08
      @machzel08 Před 5 lety +12

      Its not necessarily how-to, its how-its-done. So that when you hire someone you understand what they are doing. Or if you see a problem you know how to solve it and who to call.

    • @Arieeeee
      @Arieeeee Před 5 lety +6

      It's always nice to know how something works, even if you end up hiring someone to do it. I like to work on my car when I can but even if I take it to the mechanic to do something that's out of my skillset, it's still nice to have the general idea of what's going on.

    • @CarlosVladymir
      @CarlosVladymir Před 5 lety +1

      @@machzel08 gosthbusters

    • @erictold
      @erictold Před 5 lety +1

      Homeowner can do by themselves whatever they want. It’s legal as long as they pull the permit. No license is required if it’s done by the homeowner. Modifying gas lines require building permit even if it’s done by licensed plumbers. However, since only few plumber pull permit, almost all works done by plumbers like this video are illegal.

  • @tastemystuff
    @tastemystuff Před 5 lety +37

    5:52 Pushed the stove back without connecting the power plug.
    6:22 "Well you were a great help." Richard did all the work except moving the stove.

    • @JohnSmith-ji1hl
      @JohnSmith-ji1hl Před 5 lety +14

      it's been edited u doofus
      you wanna see him remove his tools from the work truck and cleanup after too?

    • @demonknight7965
      @demonknight7965 Před 5 lety

      @toilet brush nope. the kids could climb on it then it would roll and shut them in the oven or tip over on them.

    • @mikec4409
      @mikec4409 Před 5 lety +2

      He also pushed the stove back in before turning the gas back on in the basement. So he didn't check for leaks in the new work behind the stove.

    • @3lueDemon
      @3lueDemon Před 4 lety +1

      If properly done, you should be able to remove the warmer drawer to access the shutoff and outlet... And also remember it's a TV show clipped together from many shots...

  • @sziltner
    @sziltner Před 5 lety +5

    Now that's a real old fashioned "cellar"! Reminded me of my parents "cellar".

  • @AlBracco879
    @AlBracco879 Před 3 lety +5

    In Westerchester county NY it’s illegal to operate the gas meter valve or any valve before the meter . The utility company must be notified by a licensed certified gas plumber
    Also when ever a meter valve is operated an integrity test has to be preformed to verify the pipes integrity

    • @EternallyThankful-os6pz
      @EternallyThankful-os6pz Před rokem +5

      No wonder people are leaving New York in droves...too many rules to sig hiel to !!

    • @bobshanery5152
      @bobshanery5152 Před 9 měsíci

      Good lord.
      This is good old government ever expanding nonsense. I should know.. I worked for these programs. In my opinion 90% of it is just to forever increase and expand/funding, control people (usually small business) and collecting fees. That 10% is the only part of any benefit to the working class citizens.

    • @kennethwood2089
      @kennethwood2089 Před 8 měsíci

      The NY crowd must have moderate common-sense lacking.@@EternallyThankful-os6pz

  • @jean-clauded5823
    @jean-clauded5823 Před 4 lety +7

    I would have also replaced the gas valve, and I would have leak tested the connections behind the stove before putting it back. CSST pipe is fragile, and you opened a compression fitting then re-closed it, which can often leak.

    • @Dfk429S9fo3
      @Dfk429S9fo3 Před 8 měsíci

      That's a flare fitting, not a compression fitting.

    • @jean-clauded5823
      @jean-clauded5823 Před 8 měsíci

      @@Dfk429S9fo3 excuse me, you are correct, but T the same time if you read the package the gas line comes in when new, it says not to reuse the pipe once fastened.

  • @beachbums2008
    @beachbums2008 Před 5 lety +5

    You tested the pipe connection under the floor where the 6"pipe screwed in for gas leaks but the other in above the floor that got connected to the gas shutoff valve I did not see you test for leaks on the black pipe or flex hose that connects to the stove.
    Keep the videos coming.
    They are very tutorial for the average home owner

  • @christopherbonanno1120
    @christopherbonanno1120 Před 5 lety +32

    What left old gas valve. 🤦‍♂️. It’s a 10 dollar part new ones you can turn off by hand don’t need to look for a wrench. And what about anti tip device. Man said it’s a new stove. Guess that went in the trash O brother

    • @antonshadyrya2088
      @antonshadyrya2088 Před 4 lety

      Vince Black hey but it was done by professional :P

    • @kalijasin
      @kalijasin Před 4 lety

      @Vince Black, it looked worn out. Should of been replaced. He probably going off the “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” though.

    • @alexveitia6909
      @alexveitia6909 Před 4 lety +2

      Another hack job by Richard the master plumber.

    • @Bandito518
      @Bandito518 Před 4 lety +1

      He uses the pipe wrench taking the flex line off when a crescent wrench would have worked fine, then he tightens the pieces back up using the pipe wrenches backwards....😭

  • @izzynutz2000
    @izzynutz2000 Před 4 lety

    I understand that there's probably nothing wrong with it but why did he not put a new style shut off valve instead of the old square stub? And when he was down in the basement he said that the branch line going to the stove did not have a shut off is he relying on the one that was existing?

  • @tenzinlama5429
    @tenzinlama5429 Před rokem

    I was always told that once u remove the gas stove connection u get a new one to replace it. Was I duped into buying those connector kit again. ??

  • @juniormedina9282
    @juniormedina9282 Před 2 lety

    Is it ok to run a gas and water line behind studs ??

  • @pamgonzales9030
    @pamgonzales9030 Před rokem

    What if the gas range says it needs to be x amount of space from back wall??

  • @Finnigann2580
    @Finnigann2580 Před 3 lety +7

    Wouldn't a street "L" have been a better choice instead of making the shut-off valve harder to reach?

    • @HN-gj2iq
      @HN-gj2iq Před rokem

      Good point, a ball valve with a handle facing the right way would have been best.

  • @baltazarlopez2743
    @baltazarlopez2743 Před 5 lety +25

    Richard , don’t be a hack . Why not replace the shut off valve and put in a new gas flex??

    • @HAMRADIOJOE4178
      @HAMRADIOJOE4178 Před 5 lety +1

      IT HAD A SHUT OFF AT THE STOVE.

    • @Arieeeee
      @Arieeeee Před 5 lety +9

      In a world without an unlimited budget, you have to stop somewhere. In an older home especially you can really easily go down a rabbit hole of fixing one thing and seeing something else and updating that, then finding something else. He was there to do a job and did it.

    • @walterbrunswick
      @walterbrunswick Před 5 lety +4

      @@Arieeeee New gas shutoff valves are like $20 a piece. Please. I'm a gas fitter in Toronto (Canada) and whenever I get a chance to replace an old valve like this, I do it.

    • @Arieeeee
      @Arieeeee Před 5 lety

      And you don't charge for your time? I should hire you.

    • @walterbrunswick
      @walterbrunswick Před 5 lety +1

      @@Arieeeee Usually I factor in the cost into the job. The extra time of, 1) unscrewing the nipple from the old valve, 2) cleaning the threads, 3) applying PTFE tape (much superior to pipe dope), 4) screwing in a new valve, ... is negligible.
      If a technician/installer can't sacrifice an extra 10 minutes of their time to do a job right, get someone else. I've gone home at 2:30 a.m. finishing a boiler install that needed to get done.

  • @bigt4050
    @bigt4050 Před 5 lety +17

    I hate seeing pipe wrenches on hex fittings but still a good video.

    • @inssan6550
      @inssan6550 Před 5 lety +6

      Adjustable spanner on the valve and stillson on the fitting, schmoo all over the taper / compression fittings (clearly set up for the video it's so new), didn't purge the pipe before disconnecting...
      This old house seems to have turned into Killing yourself for dummies!

    • @WilliamDye-willdye
      @WilliamDye-willdye Před 5 lety +2

      @@inssan6550 I'm guessing the editor decided to skip showing the purge step, to save time. Still, it might've been good to mention that detail for anyone using this video as a DIY guide.
      As for using an adjustable wrench, "it ain't what ya do, it's how ya do it". Every pro I've seen, in various fields, develops shortcuts. Sometimes it's a bad shortcut, but often it works just fine if you know what you're doing. In ither words, I bet those fittings were not damaged.

    • @jeffreyjohn2037
      @jeffreyjohn2037 Před 4 lety

      @@WilliamDye-willdye using pipe wrenches or pliers on hex fittings is total hack

  • @knutbaardsen6437
    @knutbaardsen6437 Před 3 lety +1

    So you didnt put a shut off valve on line?

  • @averyalexander2303
    @averyalexander2303 Před 5 lety +9

    I can't believe that he reused that old gas valve! Those old gas valves are notorious for leaking. Also, you shouldn't need a tool to shut the valve off, which is yet another reason to replace it.

    • @bludika
      @bludika Před 5 lety +2

      just exactly my thoughts, i bet that valve is not even up to code anymore, the stove is out of the way and the gas pipe is new, why would you not put a brand new brass gas valve on it? wtf

    • @averyalexander2303
      @averyalexander2303 Před 5 lety +1

      @@bludika I would be very surprised if that valve is code compliant. Not only would you need a tool to operate it, it probably isn't approved by UL or any other reputable laboratory either. In some areas, replacing the gas valve and/or connector is required when the appliance is replaced as well.

    • @antonshadyrya2088
      @antonshadyrya2088 Před 4 lety +1

      But hey it was done by licensed professional

    • @kalijasin
      @kalijasin Před 4 lety

      @Avery Alexander, it looked worn out. Should of been replaced. He probably going off the “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” though.

  • @waverly9648
    @waverly9648 Před 4 lety

    great vid.

  • @zomgosz1503
    @zomgosz1503 Před 5 lety +3

    Shouldn't you replace that valve with a newer ball valve? Don't those have tenancy to leak over time?

  • @bsm6776
    @bsm6776 Před 5 lety +5

    He didn’t install a shutoff lol

  • @Dave-ld3dr
    @Dave-ld3dr Před 7 měsíci

    Any need to use a new hose or fitting?Many say to use a new hose kit.I think as long as it’s not damaged it should be fine.What do you think?

    • @edjay395
      @edjay395 Před 3 měsíci

      Up here in Canada, gas flexes are a 1 time use..a liability issue

  • @43wagonwheel
    @43wagonwheel Před 4 měsíci

    Why doesn't Richard use actual wrenches that fit the fittings? I never see this. Its always pipe wrenches or adjustable pliers. Wonder why?

  • @sourfeet4676
    @sourfeet4676 Před 5 lety

    More appliance videos

  • @grk651
    @grk651 Před 2 lety +1

    Who ever connected it last made a big mistake. you do not put pipe dope on a flair fitting.

  • @kencrane6420
    @kencrane6420 Před 5 lety +2

    No sediment trap?

    • @DONALD1951
      @DONALD1951 Před 5 lety +2

      Ken C Not usually on a range. The sediment drops below and there should be a drip leg on the water heater and furnace.

  • @carlmax46
    @carlmax46 Před 3 lety +1

    better to move stove gas shutoff valve to basement so it is accessible before moving the stove (now a legal requirement in some locations). best to replace the gas valve or repack it (by trained professional).

    • @MrJaminx2
      @MrJaminx2 Před rokem

      Just have one in both places.

  • @jessewilliams5562
    @jessewilliams5562 Před 2 lety

    Isn’t there a need to purge the entire system to get all the gas out of the line?

  • @rafaelmorales4070
    @rafaelmorales4070 Před 4 lety +1

    To see them using LOTO on the gas main would have been nice.

    • @MoparDan
      @MoparDan Před 3 lety

      Boy you're an idiot!

    • @Dfk429S9fo3
      @Dfk429S9fo3 Před 8 měsíci

      Was some random crackhead going to come in the house and turn it back on in the 5 minutes it was turned off?

  • @RidgePowerEquipment
    @RidgePowerEquipment Před 2 lety

    0:28 looks like pipe dope on the compression fitting.

  • @Mike__B
    @Mike__B Před 5 lety +8

    Did I miss something? Looked like there was a shutoff for the stove... right behind the stove even though he said there's no shut off for the stove... or there needs to be a shutoff before the shuttoff in case you need to replace the shutoff? then do you need a shutoff before that shutoff if you want to work on that shut off... heck just put in shutoffs all the way to the meter and hope that first one doesn't have a problem!
    And I'm not sure if it was the angle the shot was taken at, but it looks like replacing the nipple right above the shutoff with a 90 would put that below the recess of the stove, then you can add your flexible and call it a day.

    • @TheOtherBill
      @TheOtherBill Před 5 lety +3

      He needed to work on the supply side of that shutoff at the stove.

    • @Mike__B
      @Mike__B Před 5 lety +1

      @@TheOtherBill And again... looked like shutting off the gas right at the source then put a 90 on the end with maybe a smaller nipple would have been possible.

    • @tonymarony1
      @tonymarony1 Před 5 lety +1

      you are right, all he needed to do was first replace that old shut off, then a street 90, then a nipple, then the flared fitting. People you do not need pipe dope on flared fittings as was shown by the previous installer.

    • @TheOtherBill
      @TheOtherBill Před 5 lety +3

      Mike B Always best to use as few fittings as possible.

    • @andrewdarbyshire9108
      @andrewdarbyshire9108 Před 5 lety +2

      tonymarony1 street 90’s are against code in some places now.

  • @flat-earther
    @flat-earther Před 5 lety

    Hi Richard at 5:30 why pipe not against the back of the jaw for 3 points of contact, thanks

  • @JW-so4fc
    @JW-so4fc Před 4 lety

    No pressure test?

    • @jeffreyjohn2037
      @jeffreyjohn2037 Před 4 lety

      At least he should have used the bubble solution on all of the fittings behind the stove before sliding back into place. Discrepancies are common in his episodes.

  • @carlmax46
    @carlmax46 Před 3 lety +3

    gas line near stove should have a drip leg. would have been easy to add.

    • @WilliamSmith-pz5nw
      @WilliamSmith-pz5nw Před 2 lety

      Why?
      Not required

    • @carlmax46
      @carlmax46 Před 2 lety

      @@WilliamSmith-pz5nw it is required in many places. And it is good design practice even if not required.

    • @WilliamSmith-pz5nw
      @WilliamSmith-pz5nw Před 2 lety

      @@carlmax46
      Ok
      Just don't see the reasoning behind it.

    • @Dfk429S9fo3
      @Dfk429S9fo3 Před 8 měsíci

      @@carlmax46 why would you need a drip leg when the pipe is already vertical?

  • @xXAnchormonXx
    @xXAnchormonXx Před 3 lety +8

    Couldn’t spend an extra 6.99 on a new shut off. Killing me.

  • @WilliamDye-willdye
    @WilliamDye-willdye Před 5 lety +2

    Does torque matter in threaded plumbing connections? It seems like the standard is to just get plenty of threads in place so that it won't pop out, regardless of torque needed, and then check for leaks.

    • @ozziesheppard17
      @ozziesheppard17 Před 5 lety +5

      The pipe used is called NTP or national pipe thread taper. The pipe threads get wider as they go along so basically just tighten it until the pipe is very tight. However if you crank ridiculously hard with a long handle you can over tighten and push the pipe past the threads and possible cause leaks. But a normal persons idea of very tight isnt near over tightening these.
      IIRC there is code for actual lbpounds of torque for some fittings. but cant remember off the top of my head.

    • @conqwiztadore2213
      @conqwiztadore2213 Před 5 lety +1

      i was told 7-8 full turns, 3 of them by hand the rest are by wrenches? for water anyway, idk about gas

    • @andrewdarbyshire9108
      @andrewdarbyshire9108 Před 5 lety +1

      William Dye the pressure on the pipe is very low, 3.5 inch w.c. Natural gas and 11 inch w.c. Propane. So it would have to be very loose or very over tighten to actually leak.

    • @ozziesheppard17
      @ozziesheppard17 Před 5 lety +1

      @@conqwiztadore2213 Really depends on the threading, Some are a turn ahead, some are a turn slower.

    • @jeffreyjohn2037
      @jeffreyjohn2037 Před 4 lety +2

      It's a judgement call. Use your mechanical intuition.

  • @setharp27
    @setharp27 Před rokem

    Does this type of job require any permits or contact with the city or gas company? We need to do this in our house but want to make sure we’re doing it right

  • @ninjacommando10R
    @ninjacommando10R Před 3 lety +1

    Smh. No new line valve?

  • @tonyangelo1660
    @tonyangelo1660 Před 5 lety +18

    Slam those pipe wrenches down on those countertops...lol

    • @jeffreyjohn2037
      @jeffreyjohn2037 Před 4 lety +2

      Yeah, and he should be using crescent wrenches on the hex nut fittings.

    • @davidnuzum7776
      @davidnuzum7776 Před 4 lety

      Exactly. How many home owners wouldn't loose their minds if you threw 2 pipe wrenches down on a new granite countertop. Not to mention he could have installed a st 90 and would have had clearance and wouldnt have had to turn the main off just the stove shut off. But hes a trained professional. LOL

    • @jonathancatron9377
      @jonathancatron9377 Před 4 lety

      Tony Angelo it’s ok he’s using those new fangled aluminum ones...don’t take a real man to use them.

  • @kenf9089
    @kenf9089 Před 5 lety +7

    How old was that gas supply valve?

    • @andrewdarbyshire9108
      @andrewdarbyshire9108 Před 5 lety +1

      ken f old enough that it should’ve been replaced.

    • @randymathews3348
      @randymathews3348 Před 5 lety

      Don't matter, they're one use only in my book

    • @jeffreyjohn2037
      @jeffreyjohn2037 Před 4 lety

      @@randymathews3348 not true on the one use only. but should have updated the valve

  • @exmember1607
    @exmember1607 Před 4 lety +2

    3:11 story of my life...

  • @toptencontent555
    @toptencontent555 Před 2 lety

    How much would something like this cost? I just got a new stove and I’m running into the same problem.

  • @king49334
    @king49334 Před 5 lety +10

    Pipe dope.on everything

    • @readmore3634
      @readmore3634 Před 5 lety +2

      _____it can't hurt....it helps make up the thread smoothly (no balling up of metal in the threads)....and makes it so you can take it apart again someday.

  • @reynoldspc
    @reynoldspc Před 5 lety

    Why didn't you carry out a proper soundness test using a U gauge or pressure tester as you can't see the soap solution on the threads beneath the cooker isolation valve as those threads are withing the thickness of the floorboard....

    • @jeffreyjohn2037
      @jeffreyjohn2037 Před 4 lety

      Because he's a hacker. An 8" nipple and a new shut off would have been the best way to make the replacement. And absolutely, check all of the fittings behind the stove with leak detector.

  • @MrsAnaelimont
    @MrsAnaelimont Před 10 měsíci

    The owner looks scared lol

  • @TammieFulmer
    @TammieFulmer Před 5 lety

    Safety first !!!

  • @zack9912000
    @zack9912000 Před 3 lety +6

    Another hack job by Richard, "it's too unsafe, pro only" yet he screwed up. How about replace that worn out shutoff valve and do a simple leak check on all fittings and not just the one when you are done.

    • @fizwin1
      @fizwin1 Před 2 lety +2

      Also, he re-used a gas FLEX line!!!!

  • @reaperbot5226
    @reaperbot5226 Před 4 lety +2

    why not pop a extra shutoff value in the direct line from gas meter that leads to stove for future maintenance. maybe even pop on a 90 to the new end. so you'll have more waggle room for future stove upgrades.

  • @johnroberts9560
    @johnroberts9560 Před 5 lety

    Hi TOH , I just seen this episode on PBS today , thanks for the information ! 😊🔨🔩🔧

  • @randy5894
    @randy5894 Před 3 lety +30

    "You definitely need a licensed professional for this" proceeds to screw and unscrew pipes.

  • @surgio98
    @surgio98 Před 2 lety +2

    Okay. Few tips. If you think you want to risk doing it yourself.
    1. Before you even move your stove check the main shutoff works by running the stove burners. Get a fire going on all burners. The gas should get consumed and stop. Otherwise call a pro.
    2. Replace the valve with a ball joint valve that can be turned off by hand. These things fail in time and better to fix it while you have it disassembled.
    3. Get a gas leak detector (about 20 bucks on Amazon/ebay) they are better than the "bubble" methods. Play with it before hand using the burner (no fire, on low) but keep the windows open. So you know how it works.
    4. Not sure if they covered this but don't untighten the pipe. Be sure to stop when you need to. Reversing the pipe will mess up the seal the "dope/tread sealant" creates.

  • @Arteolike
    @Arteolike Před 3 lety

    Why not just thread on an elbow?

  • @fedexho
    @fedexho Před 5 lety +3

    Why not a 90 off the valve?

    • @alant5757
      @alant5757 Před 4 lety

      The pipe was too high... watch the video again.

    • @atlfreakdaddy
      @atlfreakdaddy Před 4 lety

      The pipe was right at 11 inches, if he had taken the old valve off and installed a 90 and then a new valve he would have been well under 11".

  • @stuntz0rZ
    @stuntz0rZ Před rokem

    Rich forgot to apply yellow teflon first before the sealent. OH NO! I can't get a perfect seal without both combined. I bet you 100% there is a smell gas leak there.

  • @ma7rix13
    @ma7rix13 Před 4 lety

    Does he live in limestone?

    • @MoparDan
      @MoparDan Před 3 lety

      No dumbass, he lives in Sheetrock.

  • @theamericanhiker9655
    @theamericanhiker9655 Před 4 lety

    Can’t believe he didn’t replace that shut off valve

    • @jeffreyjohn2037
      @jeffreyjohn2037 Před 4 lety

      He's a clown

    • @_1ben
      @_1ben Před 4 lety

      Why can't you believe it? No reason to replace it, he could have used a ball valve, he could have removed the core from the stopcock (shut off) for clearance from the drywall, he could have removed the valve and installed a street valve, and I could think of 5 more , my point is what he did was acceptable

  • @justinballard7242
    @justinballard7242 Před 3 lety

    3:11 that's what she said

  • @rocketrider1405
    @rocketrider1405 Před 5 lety

    At 4:21 even though you said "... lefty loosey..." while you're at it you might as well say the left rotation is from the point of view of the opposite end of the pipe, in that from your point of view you're turning the wrench clockwise aka 'righty' ... and when turning off the gas, looking squarely at whatever arrangement you see it's 'clockwise to close' ... seconds might matter someday

  • @jpl57210
    @jpl57210 Před 3 lety

    2 pipe wrenches on the $2k countertop.

  • @darrinscoilsclouds1498
    @darrinscoilsclouds1498 Před 4 lety +4

    Come on bro you should know that old gas valve is against code. Once you removed it it was your responsibility to change it. Those old valves leak.

    • @_1ben
      @_1ben Před 4 lety

      What is the code you are talking about?

    • @anthonyevans7129
      @anthonyevans7129 Před 3 lety

      Once you shut the gas from the Meter definitely change the old isolation valve and the flex hose.. both can leak at some point once the gas is pressurized back into the system

  • @highguyhere
    @highguyhere Před 5 lety

    Should have used teflon tape and pipe dope. Especially with gas. It is mandatory in the field.

    • @rkn700
      @rkn700 Před 4 lety

      As long as it the correct tape. Only yellow, never white or blue. Using the wrong tape and dope on the flare will get a flag from the gas company

    • @denisrhodes54
      @denisrhodes54 Před 4 lety

      Rubber Lynn don’t put anything on the flare

    • @jeffreyjohn2037
      @jeffreyjohn2037 Před 4 lety

      @@rkn700 no tape. Gasoila is the best. 🥇

  • @brooklynboi11207
    @brooklynboi11207 Před rokem

    Bad enough he didn’t install a shutoff valve in the basement, but also reinstalled that old valve behind the stove..

  • @maxcarrizales2285
    @maxcarrizales2285 Před rokem

    If there’s something I hate is guys putting tools ( especially heavy steel tools ) on top of clients nice countertops and floors. Use a rag or a piece of carton bro! Or a tool bag. Especially if they just replaced they’re countertops or flooring. Bad practice

  • @MoparDan
    @MoparDan Před 3 lety +7

    "The shorter pipe comes precut." They call them nipples. Oh I'm so embarrassed!

  • @malekrhaddad
    @malekrhaddad Před 3 lety +1

    What, No Pipe Dope at 5:44 ? Oh, compression fittings don’t need it....or do they? 😉

    • @anthonyevans7129
      @anthonyevans7129 Před 3 lety

      Always dope up the flex connections and also this is an ideal situation bc most of the piping isn't accessible that easy from the basement up and also no one held back from the bottom.. you have to do the work from the basement and have one person watch up stairs to make sure the valve is straight.. not to mention to change the old valve and the flex hose behind the stove

  • @snapperkc9317
    @snapperkc9317 Před 5 lety +5

    Why not soap test all points of connection that you worked with?

    • @andrewdarbyshire9108
      @andrewdarbyshire9108 Před 5 lety

      SnapperKC cause its not needed.

    • @snapperkc9317
      @snapperkc9317 Před 5 lety +1

      Andrew Darbyshire , why isn’t it needed? Why is it necessary to soap only one end of the new pipe?

    • @DONALD1951
      @DONALD1951 Před 5 lety +1

      It IS needed and required...every fitting from the elbow in the basement to the connection at the range.

    • @billsmith9249
      @billsmith9249 Před 5 lety

      these are video CLIPS. they don't show everything. They're not intended as a "how to" only a basis for information so that the average homeowner might have a better understanding of what will be needed going into a project and what to look for and how to talk to a licensed contractor

    • @snapperkc9317
      @snapperkc9317 Před 5 lety

      bill smith
      Thanks for your response....makes a lot of sense.

  • @user-wl4im6nc8y
    @user-wl4im6nc8y Před 5 lety +1

    I guess we don't soap the quick connect on the stove and tssa bugs us lol

  • @gunsnstuff4040
    @gunsnstuff4040 Před rokem

    Why not give them a new shut off? That old valve is a problem waiting to happen.

  • @LibLibertyLibertarian

    ..he was "a great help"? Lol.

  • @EternallyThankful-os6pz

    In our jurisdiction - it is considered UNprofessional to re-use the old style gas valves ( that have brass levers or knobs ) at the appliance - if you take one out , you should replace it with the new style.

    • @Katana_00
      @Katana_00 Před rokem

      I was surprised he reused it.

  • @readmore3634
    @readmore3634 Před 5 lety +4

    Lesson #1_____Call me...I'm a master plumber._____Lesson #2____ See lesson #1

    • @HolyElkGaming
      @HolyElkGaming Před 5 lety

      Putting your home at risk, negating your insurance if it goes wrong, is not worth saving a few bucks. This video is not the best video. Many of the other comments talk about the short comings, but we are not here to teach ppl how to be gas fitters on CZcams, so again hire a professional.

  • @hushg2000
    @hushg2000 Před 3 lety

    “We got up to 6 inches to play with”😭 ... that’s what my last treesome girls said 😧

  • @bobsum1745
    @bobsum1745 Před 3 lety

    There's not a lot of play with six inches.

  • @cristianmunoz2480
    @cristianmunoz2480 Před 3 lety

    Went that far so why not change the valve? Also a ball valve is better than that old one because it requires no tools to shut on and off.

  • @shadowblack1987
    @shadowblack1987 Před 4 lety +2

    That'll be $260 tyvm

    • @mantroid
      @mantroid Před 3 lety

      I used to watch a lot of HVAC videos trying to learn something, but the local repairmen burned me twice for a furnace circuit board ($600) and an a/c capacitor ($300), now I just get pissed off when I see their trucks. Guess I'm putting their kids through elite colleges.

  • @wic.kedkool
    @wic.kedkool Před 2 lety

    This guy is probably thinking "I could of save alot of money"!! People over think gas.

  • @James_Hough
    @James_Hough Před 3 lety +1

    Do ya s'pose that Rich's wife ever calls him a "pipe dope"?

  • @MrEazyE357
    @MrEazyE357 Před 4 lety +1

    "You were a great help." Was he being sarcastic? 😂

    • @reaperbot5226
      @reaperbot5226 Před 4 lety

      could have been for work not shown or just to be nice.

  • @peterharper9703
    @peterharper9703 Před 5 lety +2

    Awwww no lock-out tag out😮

  • @jonathanmcdougal8252
    @jonathanmcdougal8252 Před rokem

    Home owners should not mess with gas !

  • @jeremymedlock9626
    @jeremymedlock9626 Před 5 lety +1

    I hate natural gas with a passion. Carbon Monoxide Poisoning makes me paranoid. I prefer all electric, but you save money since you don't have a gas bill.

    • @jeffreyjohn2037
      @jeffreyjohn2037 Před 4 lety +1

      It's imperative to have carbon monoxide detectors regardless.

  • @JohnSmith-mv6bw
    @JohnSmith-mv6bw Před 5 lety

    Don't think he used enough pipe dope, by the look of things...just saying.

  • @nostradumbass4984
    @nostradumbass4984 Před 4 lety +2

    One thing I have noticed watching these videos is that all the pipes in America are never secured properly, Meters and meters of pipe, running in all directions, not fastend to the wall or anything. Apparently, even gas lines. They seem to be so strict about "code" when laying waste water pipes; everything has to be according to the all mighty "code", but really important things like gas lines are not controlled in any way. WTF???? What is the sense of a main shut off valve at the meter that you need a wrench to turn it??? In an emergency, you don´t always have a wrench handy.