England dominate, All Blacks collapse and fronting up with Kirstie Stanway | House of Rugby in Japan
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- The House of Rugby team bring you the third of their Japan mini-pods from Hibiya Park. Alex is joined once again by Kirstie Stanway of Sky Sports New Zealand to reflect on the semi-finals, look at the reaction of the All Blacks faithful after defeat to England, and to discuss just why Eddie Jones' side were so dominant in Yokohama.
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This guy is a fantastic interviewer. He lets interviews breathe and he is respectful to the mood/context around an interview. Like in this interview he doesn’t let kirstie off the hook but he’s respectful to the fact she’s gutted.
Great point. He is quality
NZ can still go to the FINAL on Saturday! They only have to buy tickets!
@@andredutoit8830 NZ fans like her probably already brought the ticket..
@@andredutoit8830 Dit was snaaks! That was funny!
Oh this is so so sweet.
@Maori Boy Still smarting? ;-)
@Sahil Arora Not as sweet as watching England get destroyed by my team in the Final.
Fair play to Kirstie for coming back on. She’s spot on about the lack of interest in NH rugby. I’ve been on here with a lot of Kiwi fans and they have almost all been gracious and classy in defeat.
I am so excited that all these analysts are writing off the Springboks because come Saturday it will be raining humble pie's.
@Kitchener Letsholo - prophetic brother, prophetic :)
@@leonscheepers5350 they got way ahead of themselves.
Totally surprised she came back. That's gutsy. Well played Kirstie, respect level up a notch.
She's getting a lot of stick on here, but I think unfairly. One, she came back; two she is gracious about how England played and went about their business.
where's Haskell to say something inappropriate when we need him?
Can you tell Haskell England suck when you see him lol
So fun watching this as a springboks fan
She's a NZ fan, not a rugby fan
Clearly! She hasn't got a scooby!
She’s fuckin embarrassing if you’re a kiwi. Clueless!!
I knew full well how good England were & how well we’d need to play to win.
Spot on. She’s ridiculous.
@Maori Boy Your sister is she? She's a fucking embarrassing mutt.
@@mateypotatey6362 hahaha kiwi girl made you burst a blood vessel
In SA we do watch Six Nations, Top 14, Premiership, so we know how good England will be!! Anything can happen in a final though! May the best team win!
I think her point about the time difference is valid though.
We watch them in New Zealand as well. Kirstie doesn't have a clue what other Kiwis are doing or watching.
As a Saffa, I only see NH Rugby when they play us and sometimes not even then.
Saffa rugby and NH rugby is not too great a time difference. Personally I am a rugby tragic and will watch rugby from any nation at virtually any standard. I realise some people do have lives though lol
The best team DID win! 🇿🇦👍🏆🥇
"I suppose we were too cocky"... Understatement eh.
AJ P No one was more cockier than her..........
Well she was for sure - but shes just a kid - Very few would have felt as sure as she did pre game and certainly not the All Blacks - for her to say "we" were just expecting the win is crap, crap, crap! We were not expecting the win but we were expecting our team to fire - even now the AB camp are in denial of what an absolute thrashing it was: Hansen repeating it was a try a piece when we all know the scoreboard flattered the ABs.
@@actiaint I think the thing that amused me most from this interview is Stanaway saying that New Zealand fans won't start to watch NH rugby after this. As an England fan I always found it interesting that Kiwis simply don't care about any rugby outside of New Zealand. In her preview of the semi-final, Stanaway showed just how little she knew about the England team, as a supposed rugby pundit, that is hilarious.
AJ P do you watch the mitre 10 cup & super rugby? The championship? It’s a lot of rugby to watch! But you know I don’t know why northern people get so offended if other countries don’t watch your tournaments? Why is that an issue?
@@april-tui3524 I didn't say NZ fans should watch the Premiership or Pro14. Stanaway herself said that NZ fans don't watch the Six Nations. I also don't think NH fans get offended by SH fans not watching NH rugby. It's when you see the All Blacks struggling to name the opposition players, it is indicative of a country that really only cares about its own rugby.
Incidentally, a lot of NH fans watch the Rugby Championship.
That South African female commentator Elma Smit is way better. Elma is humble, knowledgeable and respectful.
I'm still knocked sideways with how much of a complete team performance that was. Every man from 1 - 15 was tremendous!
1-21 mate all fab
@@benandrews7944 Correct
Thank you Kirstie. Massive respect for coming back and holding up your hand and saying you were too cocky
idk dude... "who would want to go out on a loss?" - they still have to play and then win against Wales to not go out on a loss. Apparently they just have to turn up to win??? Still too cocky.
@@hamblyl tbh I had to really try writing that comment. I could have been a snarky little shit but did respect her coming back...many wouldnt
@@hamblyl lol, exactly I heard that she made it sound like read and co don't want the semi to be a loss as there last game so it's best they play against Wales and then it'll finish on a win 🤔" Lol .. never mind the fact Wales could actually beat them.. yep "Cocky" the Myths around the world that kiwis are the most humble people around and that the English and Australias are some of the most arrogant in sport, , Well Kirstie sure as hell is making New Zealanders look right up there in the number 1 ranking in the terms of arrogance.. probably the worst..
Well done for fronting up even through gritted teeth. Even as an England fan I can’t see us pulling the same performance against SA on Saturday. England are going to have to knuckle down big time to win this.
Cant believe I've only just found this channel.Loving how magnanimous the kiwis are being in defeat.Yes they were cocky going into the match but so would any team with their record over the last 12 years
Can't wait for the final.I was away with the army in 03 and 07 so really looking forward to a good contest
As a Kiwi it's a bit disrespectful to say we didn't know anything about them hahaha I'm 100% sure I'm not the only Kiwi that watches The Gallagher Premiership and French Top 14 lol Before the RWC even started I knew only 2 teams could topple us and that was S.A and England. Once I saw France and Argentina lose to England, I started prepping for a war in the semis without being disrespectful to Italy and others in our pool and yeop my nightmare came true hahahaha Congrats to England, thoroughly deserved it! Even though we lost doesn't mean I stop watching rugby in the Northern Hemishpere lol
The All Blacks and their supporters always believe that they are going to win, and I would even say that the NZ public almost demand it. However the All Blacks had every right to expect to win, given their stellar record. England just played an unbelievable game. The question that still needs to be answered is can they repeat that level of performance and keep on doing it. If England want to compare with All Blacks lets see if they can dominate world rugby for the next eight years. Given that performance even a Bok supporter, as I am, has to admit that the England looks like it could do the same to the Boks. I do think the Boks will ask a different set of questions of England though, so I am just hoping that final gives us a good contest at least. Go the Boks!
As a South African pretty much in the same time zone as England. We follow on Supersport Great Britain , Irish, French and Italian rugby . We also watch Australian and NZ ( even school rugby). As a rugby journalists why does she not watch world rugby , even to see how the opponents play .
Kudos to Kirstie,she fronted up and I respect her for that.
As soon as the final whistle went, I couldn't wait for this episode!! Swing low sweet chariot!!
I gave Kirstie stick on Twitter after the last one so I’m giving kudos to her now for coming back. And because she’ll be cheering the Boks.
God, she's even insufferable in defeat.... 🤫🤫🤫
Back door action? Because you wouldn't want to face her would you...
Awful incarnate.
Never underestimate the Springboks. This is a one game competition now!
so true and Springboks thrive in one off games
Just like that one game vs Japan 4 years ago...
@@alanb9443 not a good example, we own that game and we made of meal of it and we lost, that's on us (our greatest gift to rugby after Fafs hair). but in the context of this conversation, that was not a one off game, that was a game we could loose and thats exactly the point. The boks do really well under pressure conditions where we have must win games and we are the under dogs, those conditions we thrive. Going into a game thats not a must win and we are the favorite is the worst situation for us, Ala Japan 4 years ago ...
so we are very happy for England to take the limelight this week.
4 years ago , it's about now, today. Past is past. Everyone is saying we beat the AB so SA will be easy. It's a different game against different players. No way are England favourites.
As an England fan, I've waited a life time to say "NZ good defence, but where's the attack and they kick the ball away too much" ... NZ didn't lose the game, England won it. I hope that the great coaching staff and great ABs who are retiring, get recognized for being great ABs and wonderful representatives of their country. It will be wonderful to see what Scott Robinson could bring to the NZ team. One final thought ... good sport for showing, but she ended as an AB fan, not a rugby fan which is often the major difference ... 6N fans love the tribalism of the competition and celebrate it, but we also love the game.
She’s right about England’s mentality. They went in believing they’d win and never lost that belief. New Zealand couldn’t counter it.
do you really know that? haha england did the job on us tho.
The biggest thing to come out of this is that no one disputes that England were deserved winners.no bad calls,no fluke, no luck. England completely won that game.
Fair play Kirstie that cant have been easy.
it's only a game!
@Maori Boy The internet & twitter in general are arseholes. I watched her interview last week and i honestly can't see what people were 'offended' about. It's Rugby, she's a Kiwi supporter. Why wouldn't she back them to the hilt and expect the AB's to win?
@@D4rkm00r I think they were offended by the complete and utter lack of knowledge and appreciation of anything to do with the game outside of parroting phrases about NZ. To put yourself up as a commentator implies you have some interest in the game, the players, the culture - not just a fanboy of the brand.
Shes absolutely desperate for money and to get in front of camera.. I can't believe this is who they choose to ask about NZ rugby
Sorry but NZ didn’t “collapse” they were well beaten on the day by a better team. On another day it might have been different.
When asked why she wanted South Africa to win, she answered, "What allegiance do I have to England." What allegiance does she have to South Africa? She didn't say.
She had explained previously that SA is their biggest rival, and the next game between the two has added oomph cos it's the 100th meeting.
Agree the hardest part for a kiwi is that they didn’t manage to compete
As a South African, after smashing England in the final, it's soo good to hear "the Boks have no chance". We just love the underdog tag. Already heard we have no chance defending our title in 2023 ... let's keep that going
I think Eddies point about NZ press being AB fans with pens is valid, but I think she gives a good explanation why that is. There's probably little call for a journalist to cover any other rugby. Fair play to her for coming back on and being honest. Can't imagine Stuart Barnes being as willing to say he got it wrong because he hadn't been paying attention to other teams.
A follow up interview
Way to respond to audience 👍👍👍
I love the way reporters say the ABs collapsed and that England stormed their way past the ABs. Yes England played better on the day. Well done England. But let’s look at it in context. During a World Cup and semi finals, ANY team has the ability to win. And the ABs will bounce back. The stats show what the ABs have done. Can’t wait for the ABs to play England again.
England played more than better they played like no team has ever before played against New Zealand dominant from start to finish and didn't give a inch
As a kiwi I was cringing watching her arrogance in the first interview. She to me was like the guy who got the Webb Ellis cup tattoo. Good humble pie for the one eyed fan types and certain nz media who have unrealistic expectations on the ABs. How could she not have seen England being on form?
she's an utter moron that's why plain and simple
i'm looking forward to jeff wilson's Breakdown show when it airs wednesday night - ali williams and co will surely have to spit out some praise to england this time?
I watch that too
I wouldn't bet on it....
Been looking for that myself
They will spend 85% of the time talking about the Mitre cup and going into the farmland rugby circuit to avoid mentioning how good England were. And how contained New Zealand were with their deer in the headlights body language the whole game.
We saw the Breakdown’s “fans with keyboards” moment when South Africa won the Rugby Championship and didn’t even warrant a mention. Must have been suffering from a rare case of Bounga-3-peat-itis 🤣😂🤣
Yeah good show the Breakdown, they're not bias in there opinion, like they say a few home truths when needed and they do acknowledge the teams in the UK particularly Jeff, he's good to listen too and that Mils Juliana on there
I don’t know how Kristen got a job reporting on rugby. She is incredibly one eyed, comes across arrogant. How could she or New Zealand not realize how good England have become its unbelievable.
Real sport to come back Kirstie and thanks for supporting the Springboks! Joe real English gentlemen...not to many of those! ;-)
You not see enough English gents to say that.
@@Theemptythroneistaken Oh the irony in your reply, intentionally or not.
😁
@@Theemptythroneistaken Maybe my judgement were clouded by the Football watching and an altercation with some Lions fans back in 2009....;-)
I live in Auckland. This is proving to be a pleasant work-week.
Really enjoyed that, she’s a good sport! Glad to hear she’s supporting the Boks, even if she thinks England will win... I reckon she said that to keep things sweet! Missed a great chance to ask her who better between Itoje and Etzebeth, or which England players would get into the Bok side (not many I reckon) 😃
I really don't want to say this but-- even in defeat, she's still obnoxious.
What a lovely girl. Good on her for fronting up despite being gutted.
Sorry but no genuine All Blacks fan could be that suprised by this. Of the 6 games played between the 2 sides since England last beat NZ in 2012 (by a signnificant margin), there has only been one match where there was more than 8 points in it with the last 2 matches being won by 3 or less.
I was legitimately surprised by how much better they were.
Good on her for coming back on the show; good sport, Kirstie. (By the bye, I thought people way too harsh on her in the comments below last week's vid.) Looking extra good this week too (though it may be a bit iffy to say so); mourning becomes her.
Alex is a G !!! Really likeable bloke
Fair play for facing up and eating some humble pie. Although not too much in admitting to support SA for the win on Saturday. ;)
Funny how NZ and Bok fans support the other but no NH team back Eng.
The colonials always gang up against the mother nation. And the French simply don't like us.
i do wanta watch on friday, think lookin back it does matter, bit about failin n gettin on with it again" not that i always do
Her saying there’s no way South Africa will beat England makes me think otherwise based on previous predictions
Noone knew what england were gonna do?! Is she even a damn journalist?!
Brilliant from Kirsty to come back on despite the pain
Great show
Watch out for SA. They might surprise you all like the English did to the All Blacks the past weekend.
To clarify... the NZ media were cocky. The players nor the majority of the NZ rugby public were not. Confident yes, and rightly so, but not cocky. Now I see the British media is behaving exactly how NZ media did leading into last weekends semi. It was one exceptional performance.... be careful to not over egg the omelette.
the all black scored less points than Leicester scored goals against Southampton :)
She’s a good sport for coming back on and I respect that but I still feel like she is just an all black fan rather than a rugby journalist. Sure, New Zealander’s may not watch the NH rugby games but as a rugby reporter, that is her job. Kinda crazy she doesn’t keep up to date with other games round the world.
I’ve pretty much watched every game of this World Cup with intrigue especially with 2nd tier matches and I’m just some punter who has a run around on a Saturday!
Joe is very gracious.
bloody gorgeous wahine! Respect. C'mon England!
She is annoying NZ are going to watching our All Blacks play for bronze. ."if you don't support them when they are down don't support when they are up" England played a great game Respect x
Kiwis are remarkably confident going in, but generous in both victory and defeat.
Alex, very classy and sympathetic as ever. And it was the right thing to do to ask for respectful responses at the end. That said, it would also have been the right thing to do to moderate the jingoism and dismissing of the opposition in such an offhandish manner. She's either a journalist or a fan. Yes, you can be both. Just not at the same time when you're working. I think that's what was so off in the initial pod. Anyway, credit to her for fronting this....although a lot of the mea culpa was contextualised by 'we in New Zealand'. If you're going to 'own it' then please own it yourself.
First! Oh boy! I've been waiting for this!
nb 4:10 Random guy taking photos!
That was Bucko
@@devout666 Fuck him.
Fair play she came back and ate her humble pie. Big respect 🤘🏻
I've been waiting a long time for this haha
Credit for coming back on I suppose. I hope the blinkers stay on in NZ because ultimately it will hold them back and increase our chances of making this happen more often.
A great interview. didn't know that is the NZ perception of rugby. more please
It's not NZ fans collectively, a whole lot of NZ fans do follow the sport holistically. But because the ABs are so nationally iconic a lot of people in NZ who don't have the time or passion to follow other tournaments will only pop up to follow the ABs and it's a significant portion of the population who fall in that category.
I find it interesting some of the comments here, England played well and deserved the win, you win you lose, But we Kiwis will always stand by our teams, call it cocky call it what you will. But thats what it takes to play and win sport, its about giving your all and facing the worst. It was a big tough game. Our next meeting will be a big one too. Im with Kirsty and want SA to win!
You want South Africa, your tradition arch rival, to achieve Kiwis record? Seems strange to me
And ps, no one minds Kirsty backing her team, but it was the complete disregard to acknowledge the the competition. But odd coming from a journalist
@@CDStoner It would seem strange to you, you assume Kiwis think of the game as you do. SA our biggest foe, and yet we support them, dont you just love this game!
@@CDStoner how so?
@@CDStoner oops!
Well done Kirstie, that interview took a lot of guts to do.
People giving her flak for not knowing about NH rugby don't understand the NZ rugby fan mindset.
For them, the AB's are the ONLY team that matters.
The vast majority will watch their club play and the AB's play. I doubt most even watch the other games in the Rugby Championship that don't feature the AB's, let alone 6 Nations.
I feel sorry for Kirstie... does she know of a rugby player called Sergio Parisse... a brilliant player stuck in an international Italian team that loses most of the time... but he still puts on the shirt for rugby... he’s got integrity Kirstie.. narcissistic qualities, just thinking about SELF... “time zones”.. there’s a problem in New Zealand ...It’s what she represents..
Brilliant video......very honest.
Man all rugby aside, Kiwi's have seemed so gracious in defeat. Anyone who fronts up like that after getting it wrong deserves a lot of respect
After being such cocky bastards before ? Nah still twats in my mind
@@alanb9443 She got it wrong, and fronted up. There's not many in world media with that attitude
I think the exact quote where ‘ the all blacks have no weakness’ ‘there’s no chance they’re going to lose’ that’s sheer arrogance straight up. That’s not making a prediction.
Good sport Kirstie, Well done! Just a suggestion, if you genuinely have an interest in Rugby I’d suggest time zones don’t really matter. These days there is a wonderful place called The Internet. It’s packed full of all sorts of informative Northern and Southern Hemisphere Rugby related content and it’s open 24/7 ......across all time zones.
Yeah I was thinking same thing, plenty of North and South Americans watch English football (soccer) live for example and time zones aren't helpful to them, and yeah with tv/internet these days not exactly difficult lol
Oh good lord we needed this, guessing she felt the heat from the last interview
Fair play to her, faced the music. Best of luck with her career
The point about NZ being AB fans not Rugby fans is spot on, helps the rest of the world to understand where they're coming from. Also, in NZ the media don't help as they are very insular and fail to report on or show anything to do with NH rugby. Also, their pay TV doesn't offer anywhere near the level or quality of coverage the likes of Sky/BT Sport gives to the UK/European game.
8:27, O Kirstie It is just a game of Footy and it should not define who you are. There are people who have suffered the worst tragedies in life. Absolutely amazed by Kirstie Stanway's shallowness to compare a game of rugby with the Tyfoon 🧐 Thanks Kirstie for supporting the BOKS 🗣️ GO Springboks🇿🇦
I’ve been waiting for this all weekend
Respect to her for returning and fronting up!
This is insane!!! I’m still in shock!!
Not that it's likely to happen but were the ABs to go on a prolonged slump for a few years I suspect you wouldn't find this girl anywhere near a rugby stadium. She seems to be all about herself.
It feels like crap i know we have had years of feeling like that so it feels nice to feel something different for a change. Respect to you guys.
P.s I also Think we need to face each other more! Looking at how many matches we have played against one another over the past 5 years its so little its ridiculous.
Darth Nihilus Tony machavelli we lu hehe
100% need to have more games. They are often absolute classics, like the game last year and even a couple on the 2014 tour. We need to play in NZ far more. Bring back test match series in all rugby
Was that Haskell taking pictures of the ducks early on, anything to get in the spot light.?
The biggest smile on my face right now, but I wish it was a bigger score haha
How can she say they didnt know? The amount of match tapes available to them to analyse... You cannot tell me that NZ do not analyse teams?... Hansen is an amazing coach... I`m 100% sure her statement is incorrect... You dont have to watch the games live due to timezones-- watch it when you can...
Knew we would win when we set up in the "V" for victory formation to face the Haka
Kirstie is brilliant and bold just like her team. A great sport. However overconfidence verging on arrogance caught out Kirstie and her Kiwis. The more desperate side was England after their 2015 debacle. England’s win was no surprise to anyone familiar with England’s build under Eddie post 2015.
100% agree!
There is a difference between being cocky and expectation, 12 years on top does engender a certain expectancy but England have changed all that, never seen them play so well, congratulations to England
Interesting insight into the differences in rugby cultures. NZ strength is they focus on their own game and performance, but they may have been too insular and under appreciated the competition from northern hemisphere now.
I wish Haskell was in on this Interview.
Jesus please not ,he would be akward and ham fisted with his barbs
Yep that’s what I was hopeful of , Ham fisted with his barbs . She is absolutely terrible and far too arrogant
Josh gibbison right because Haskell isn’t arrogant at all 😐
Fair Play.... #respect ... Love Kiwis
The web ellis cup is coming home!!
Fair play to Kirstie to come back on, she’s a good sport and Alex is a gentleman and a class act. I do think that the NZ reaction to the AB loss is a bit over the top. The nature of sport means no team in any sport ever wins 100% of the time. This wasn’t a huge upset either because England have been steadily improving and have world class players so they ought to have been worried. NZ got beasted by SA pack in the first game, hammered an Irish team that played so poorly I reckon even Australia would have put 40 points on them so I don’t really understand why this AB team were being so highly lauded before they played England. Steve Hansen should be rightly proud of what he’s achieved and the NZ media should realize that and accept that on the day, they got beaten by a better side. It happens, that’s Sport.
Your spot on all your remarks on the ABS games with The reaction of being beaten and the SA pack etc yeah too much was read about that Irish hammering, they asked no questions of the ABS defence only once or twice in second half then when they did they scored 2 converted tries inside 10 minutes which were quite easy too so ABS had a training run against them, Kirstie and others are living in the past of AB dominance during McCaw era post that they have been found out some what so they shouldn't be expected to keep smashing teams because they simply aren't as good anymore plus other teams have well and truely caught up if not passed them, the ABS bloody mindness to not change there game up from just attack attack attack will continue to give them more pain if they don't look themselves in the mirror
Nom nom nom a delicious moment to savour 😋😋😋😂😂
NZ can still go to the FINAL on Saturday! They only have to buy tickets!
Even after the loss it is just me me me me me. Disgusting. France is historically another nemesis for NZ. Why would you not give European sides more respect.
LOVE IT! Well done to her, hope the messages aren't too bad :(
I think the football fans were watching :'(
I’m English and I think why would any kiwi watch northern hemisphere rugby. They play the best rugby in the world so what’s the point for them? It’s like people from the UK with football, why would we watch Southern Hemisphere football (soccer) when we have the best league in the world?
have you given up on Haskell completely? good idea.
Victory never tasted sweeter
Let's not bang on about NZ not turning up because that takes away from the world class performance England produced, we were better on the day by a country mile and that's it really.
George Bridge ?
WTF did he do wrong ?