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I decided long ago that I was going to do wtf I wanted. It's divisive to believe that one routine/regimen is better than next. We are all trying to reach certain goals with our hair and does it REALLY matter how we get there?
Ahhhhh SheRea!!! Thanks for turning it! And I HEAR you girl! I definitely think especially for the kinky-curly-coily gals that typically get the end of the stick. I don’t wanna hear nobody say nothingggggg. We doing the best we can 😭
@@TruleyTalentedBeauty Period!
Yes ma'am 👍🏾 we don't all want to spend hours in our hair or have waist length. We all have different lifestyles and want different looks. Y'all do what makes y'all happy. I know I'm not trying to waste my life stressing over some hair 🤷🏾♀️
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As a cosmetologist, I find that the main problem I find is that people use food grade oils and butters which are not small enough on a molecular level to really benefit the hair.
I’ve definitely heard my stylist say the same!!
This part!
My hair loves water. avocado oil, coconut oil… you can cook it, eat it, wear it on your skin, etc. School can’t educate one on kinky hair. Certain oils don’t benefit a certain hair type.
The whole no oils no butter trend introduced me to mousse, which is now my favorite styler. But I have also understood that using some oil on my ends helps me retain length. I have also seen time and time again that many of the girlies that have seen crazy fast length retention have used oils and butters and silicones and all the other things people say not to use. I’m just gonna do/use what works for my hair and goals.
I think oil is good for ends yiutr right
@@christy7516 I thought it wasn’t for a long time. Most oils actually make my hair feel more dry and hard, which is why I related to the no oils no butters challenge so much. I finally found out that argan oil is the only raw oil that works for me really well so I’ve been using that to help with retention. Do what works 🤷🏾♀️
I tried a foaming setting lotion for the first time while braiding instead of cream, and my hair has NEVER air dried so fast. 😮
Absolutely. My hair loves grease and silicones. I kept my hair in mini braids for 6 months, washed my hair with sulfates and silicones and sealed my hair with hair grease. My hair retained moisture like crazy and because of that I was able to retain all my length. Every ingredient people told me to stay away from, my hair thrives with it. I don’t push trends or things not to do, I just do what I know has been successful with my strands. I don’t fix what’s not broken.
Yes! Black girls curls put me on to no oils and no butters! My hair THRIVES now and can actually absorb water! My routine literally takes less than an hour now. Hair cannot absorb water if there’s oils on top of the strand. Water would just leave the strands and feel dry! I love it! I use a tonic spray daily and call it a day :)
The hair community in general has become toxic and full of scams and lies. I went back to basics because of “natural only” products trend that I followed broke my hair off and was slowly taking my hair off my scalp like some kind of hair removal cream. I’m using blue magic grease all the time, I’m using motions oil moisturizer lotions, BB oil moisturizer lotion, and distilled water, my hair grew back healthy, longer, and stronger. My cabinet looks like a flash back of the 90s and I love it! I love oil sheens😂
Mmmmmhm just bought blue magic the super gro one and it made my fro so moisturized! It hasn't been this moisturized since I was 15 and guess what I was using then??... blue magic!
I use leave in and some blue magic I’ve tried every type a hair butter they make my hair dry I have to incorporate grease I even grease my scalp
My hair was falling off to. Weak and brittle. I said im done and now I'm doing what's works for me and my hair has came back for the dead!!
It’s something about that blue magic! I did also did a grease mixture my mom use to make when I was a kid and my hair is thriving and growing. I wash my hair weekly just like it was in the early 00s and this naturally hair journey has been so much easier.
@@princessslaya937 super sure gro was the reason I convinced myself natural was the way(got it from my moms wardrobe)😂. It don't ship to my country no more and no other Blue Magic works the same. Siz if you got it keep it. They knew what they were doing with that stuff
Completely agree with you!
I’ve been natural since 2007 and here’s what I’ve learned throughout this journey:
1. Clean your hair
2. Moisturize
3. Seal in the moisture
4. Repeat on a regular basis (that can be weekly, bi-weekly or monthly - depending on your scalp and hair needs) and leave it alone
5. Trim when needed
However you achieve these things (sulfate shampoo/non-sulfate shampoo, oils/no oils, silicones, grease, petroleum, twisting cream, gel, mousse, etc,) doesn’t matter.
The products you use are based on what your hair and scalp needs, the climate and the style you want to achieve. If these 5 steps are covered growth will come as a result because you’ll have healthy hair.
It really is simple, too many opinions has made it complicated.
I’ve been relaxed over 35 years. Starting this journey in my late 40s was extremely overwhelming but I have finally understand what my hair needs and likes. I don’t follow trends. I do as I please and it’s been working for me so far
I am someone that never follows trends. I give my hair what it wants. I recently found out my scalp doesn't like oil. It would itch like crazy after 3 days of oiling my scalp. I tried not putting oil on my scalp for a week, and the itch stopped. My scalp would break out from using the oil. It is so much clammer without using the oil. I like this video.
my scalp doesn't like oil either
Same here!
@@rebeccastark8317 Me too! Sometimes I can use very small (half a pea size) amount of serum, but raw oils are a big no-no for me 🙅🏽♀️
This was meeee. Especially in braids or twist. I’d notice my scalp would start to react. And funny enough my mom says she just sprays water on her hair occasionally instead of using oils. So different strokes definitely for different folks!
Same here!!! Since there’s no build up on my scalp or hair it takes less than an hour to do my whole hair routine including washing and conditioning!
Since I started wearing my hair straight, I haven't had any issues. I literally got sick and tired of using product after product, Trying to "conjure" up a curl that was really never there in the first place. Now, I use one, maybe two lines. Redken and Kenra. Wash my hair every 7 days, blow dry and flat iron, and I'm good. I can't tell you the amount of money wasted on product's that simply didn't work for me. My hair thrives on heat, and that's what I chose to do
#doyouboo! Im curious as to what climate you live in cause I know my hella Humid area would flip it and reverse that flat iron quick!
My hair also thrives on heat, I fedl you on that sentiment.
@@TruleyTalentedBeauty I live in Atlanta. If you slowly heat train your hair will not revert as much and damage is minimum. I’ve been using low heat (300 or less) for 10 years. It doesn’t revert unless drenched. My hair is type 4 waist length.
I relate so hard to this! I started my natural hair journey last summer because I figured my hair would grow longer. I been going through product after product, my hair became brittle, I have fairy knots and split ends even though I get regular haircuts, and I’ve tried so many treatments. My hair is still growing, but I’ve never seen it so bad before. I even do protective styles like twist and cornrows and it’s just not doing it for me. Before all of this, I used to silk press my hair at home. My hair was shiny, I never had split ends, and it was soft to the touch. I’m trying to stay strong, but I think I may go back to heat.
My hair is naturally curly. I’m 57 & my hair wouldn’t take a relaxer at first & then I saw it thin from relaxers over time. That was it for me. I love my natural hair & have learned how to straighten it well when I want that look. Ppl just have to really learn what works for them.
Thinking about your hair/scalp the same way you think about skin has been the biggest mindset change ever.
I went to esthi school and the breakthrough for me was understanding moisture/hydration and the fact that my hair was almost NEVER hydrated lol. You're talking good sense girl. The science of black hair has been the best book to me, no bs, recommendations for all price points, good science, and emphasis on routine over products if anyone is looking.
Ooooo I’ll definitely be check that one out!! And thank you for watching 🤗🤗
@niya in short, water, liquid leave ins, and plant gels (things like flax gel, marshmallow root and slippery elm are humectants that form a film on the hair and retain moisture.) Then I go in with more oil based stuff or silicon based stuff if I'm using heat.
@@hushpuppy698 Are you saying you use gel and then a silicone before using heat?
@@emms443 if I'm using heat, no gel. Liquid leave in (like the aphogee one) or a really good setting lotion + heat protectant which is the silicone. If no heat then a gel or butter (which has oils) after the liquid leave in. Its very cold and dry where I am so I've been using things like kinky coily knot today with a butter on top to fight the dryness. In the summer I wouldn't bother, it gets so humid where I am.
I think the key take away if that hydration is water and moisturizer is an emollient. Too often we moisturize our hair without hydrating it.
@@hushpuppy698 Thanks!
I asked my natural hair stylist in NYC how she learned so much about natural hair. She said "because it grows out of my head". Lived experience is so valuable.
I went natural less than 3 years ago and my hair is now so healthy and long. I learned so much from all of you CZcamsrs. 🥰 I just took a little here and there and created a super simply routine that works for me. I don't get caught up in trends.
Everyone is on a different journey and needs different things for their personal head of hair.
What I understood about the no oils, no butters, is that it's primarily for people who want to style their hair, especially in wash n go's. If your goals are length retention(probably some protective styles), no oils and no butters probably won't work for you. But if you want to style and restyle your hair throughout the week no oils and no butters is probably the best option.
You just have to ask yourself what is your goal and what are the goals of the person giving you this information. And you'll be fine.
Girllll thank u for this video…cuz I’m sick and tired and tired of being sick and tired. I can’t begin to tell u how much $ I’ve spent on my hair care re influence from influencers. I literally had to put myself on a ban from purchasing new products because I realize I had a whole lot of products I don’t use because I didn’t like it or it didn’t work. These influencers are full CAP because how do u know if a product truly works if u keep changing every week? But then coming to the good internet to say this product worked when u only used it once? Stop it.
Yeahhhh from the creator side. I’ll definitely say the pressure of relevance and time played a huge role I believe in how people rolled out reviews. I literally ment to add a part in my video where I was like “y’all gonna have to give me some grace” cause I actually gotta put these products threw wear test before making final decisions. 😭😭😭
I don’t put too much stock in what professionals say. “Professionals” gave me severe heat damage. “Professionals” refused to tell me what products they were using on my hair. “Professionals” wouldn’t consult me about how much they were going to trim before trimming. “Professionals” hemmed and hawed about recommending products or giving me sound advice about haircare. “Professionals” are what sent me running to CZcams after *YEARS* of trying to grow my hair and retain length under the tutelage of “professionals”. 😐
I have very low porosity hair and I have started using African black soap as a shampoo. I can not express how happy I was when my hair actually felt moisturized after a shampoo.
I just feel like I’m grateful for influencers sharing their experience. As consumers we do not have to go out and buy everything y’all recommend but it’s helpful to know what some of our favorites like and their regimen. As for me, I swear by the 30 day detox method because that’s what works for my hair. I have tight curls and coils and I found it best to shampoo, condition, and style with a botanical gel. My hair is defined and very moisturized. I used to be a girl who used butters and oils and swore by it but my hair was never flourishing like now.
I’m going to watch this twice cuz I can’t stop staring at your hair and I ain’t paying attention. It looks so good
😭😭😭😭😭 let me know your thoughts once you’ve watched it again 😭
As a hairstylist....this was well said. I keep it simple and tell my clients the same. Oh...and I still use grease!
THANK 👏🏾YOUUUU 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I feel like your perfectly summed up my feelings with the natural hair advice lately. I think the no oil, no butters, just wash n go was good for me in reducing the amount of products I thought I had to use and developing a baseline, but my scalp is still dry and I feel like my hair hasn’t really grown since switching methods. I was afraid to start looking at oils or going back to braids bc the rhetoric felt so against it so it’s just a relief for someone to just say DO WHAT YOU KNOW. I was starting to doubt myself and what I knew about my own hair so much it was almost anxiety producing.
Girllll I feeeeeeeeeellll that. And I’m so happy you were able to feel seen. I plan on going on a growth journey this year and actually wanted to test out whether or not I’d see a difference using oils on my scalp or not. Let me know if that’s something you’d be interested in me documenting!
@Janae S I totally agree…. This is so overwhelming.
If your hair growth is stunted and your having a dry scalp problems i think you should go see professional hairstylist.
@@ToxicFunnyNes Wouldn't it make more sense to see a dermatologist though or even a trichologist if you can? They would know a lot more about the scalp and hair loss than a stylist would.
I’m a professional hairstylist and I feel like the No oils no butters method works best for wash n go girlies as I wear wash n go’s frequently and I have fine low density hair. But for girlies who wear protective styles and twists, oils and butters are better as long as your hair is properly hydrated/moisturized underneath the protective style as long as you are cleansing your hair properly after taking down your protective styles, braids, twists, ponytails, etc. You should be clarifying at least monthly and deep conditioning at least monthly. I agree with both sides depending on how you wear your hair. I specialize in Silk Pressing and silk pressed hair needs to be deep conditioned 1-2 times monthly and you can’t use Oil on a silk press because it will weigh the hair down and burn while flat ironing. While with wash n gos you don’t have to deep condition unless your hair is damaged, dry, or broken off.
I got the same interpretation that you did. Bcg also clarified that when they started this back in 2015. I use a lot of the same products, but don't apply additional raw oils and butters to my hair strands. My issues were how I was cleansing, cleanser selection and product application. I don't understand where the no butters no oils came from. I don't tell anyone what to do with their hair. I wash, condition, style and sit under my hooded dryer.
I still appreciate my Influencers. You ladies helped me keep hair on my head for many years. I do appreciate the professionals finally stepping in. What I'm intolerant of is the professionals bashing influencers. They were nowhere to be found when many of us were struggling. I'm too damn old to temper my speech 🙂.
The intro!😂😂😂
ETA: I’ve been natural since I was 18 (2009) and I just stuck with what my hair likes. Heck, I still use the same products (mostly Oyin Handmade) that I’ve been using since I really started taking care of my hair in 2012. I don’t have time for trends.
The oyin cowash is like, the only one I use. It’s more of a refresh my style when I don’t need a full shampoo thing, but that cooling sensation is so nice
I only use a clarifying shampoo (2x a week) I feel like moisturizing shampoos definitely leave a residue on the hair at least for me because after using them my scalp would still be itching after my wash maybe because they are so jam packed with oils 🤷🏽♀️
I’m with you on the moisturizing shampoos. It is so rare for me to find one that doesn’t make my hair feel tacky like I didn’t just wash it 🥲
Clarifying 2x 😅😅😅!On your scalp or your hair?
@@friedchicken892 Both, I think for me I produce more sebum on my scalp and I also workout 3-4 times a week so I need to use something clarifying or my head will still be itchy after washing
I am a grease baby through and through!!! Shampoo (head & shoulders or herbal essences), deep condition, pink hair lotion and then my grease and i'm done!!! 😂😂😂😂 Ladies, do what works for your hair!!!!
Amen! I wash my hair once a month with clarifying shampoo, extra strength head and shoulders, deep conditioner, leave in, and a butter. Every week or so, i use more styling cream and am thinking about omitting the cream for just water to prevent too much product buildup. It works well enough for my life.
lmaoooo in the natural hair community, you might as well be the antichrist 😂💀
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!!!! I’m currently almost 3yrs on this natural hair journey & I have learned to pick & choose tips/guidelines from hair influencers & to have the expectations that it may not work. This is all trial an error. Sometimes I’m using the same products as last wk where my wash & go turned out amazing but this time it didn’t work. (I thought I was doing something wrong) come to find out it was the freaking weather that week that through my hair all of wack 😅. When it comes to our hair we sometimes have to take the good, the bad & the ugly!
This video should be viral ‼️ I’ve been preaching everything you said to my clients for years but the level of influence that social media has on people is insane. Hopefully videos like this will start to be more popular and people will see the light lol.
Awwwwe thank you so much for watching. Your comment means the world!! ❤️
Everyone is chasing a curl and might try anything to get it. I’ll say I love the idea of a 1hr wash day but…the mindset of chasing the crispy curl is what seems to have a lot of people in a choke hold. I wanted to simplify but it ended up being more complicated. These boogie botanicals are expensive. I now have to camouflage a spaceship looking hooded dryer in my home….Textured hair is prone to frizz and that’s it. My main take always are oil must be washed out.
Yeah I feel like the most important part is you need a strong enough shampoo to handle your oils if you use em. I remember my mom used grease as a kid and my hair was swinging BUT she also used a sulfate shampoo on me. I'm tempted to go back but then I remember the terror of leaning on well, anything 😂
I felt this so much!!!!😂
I’ve had so many people tell me what I should(n’t) do and/or what to use in my hair even though we didn’t have the same hair texture and/or style preferences 😅 I’m just going to do what works best for my hair 💁🏽♀️
Oooo I’m not sure if you’ve don’t this already, but I’d love to see a routine with all Cantù products
That part! And noted 📝
I tried to follow the trends for years and my hair just strongly opposes each and every time. I have psoriasis in my scalp so nothing is going to keep her fully satisfied long term, but since I’ve gone back to greasing my scalp with that good ol blue magic…it’s really made a great turn around for me. And I’ll never let my oils go. Except coconut, she really just didn’t get along.
I am so glad my hair is loc’d.. this comes with its own set of rules for sure but I just couldn’t handle having loose natural hair anymore.
Thanks for the video. Forty years ago I often noticed the young men with a head full of beautiful long hair more often than the women . I learned the men were simply getting their hair braided with moisturizer and having grease applied to their scalp while women spent every Saturday afternoon getting our hair, relaxed, blow dried and hot curled. I'm glad to see we're getting away from being so harsh and rough with our hair and more into moisturizers, simple sealants like Vaseline if desired, less over processing and allowing extreme heat to be applied to our hair. Protective styles are much more popular allowing our hair to grow longer.
Natural hairtube is important but it can be hard to navigate.
I admire creators that don't product push and have simple consistent routines. I am pro raw oils and butters. However, most people need to keep oils away from their scalp unless it's an overnight pre-wash treatment.
That lip combo is everythingggg ☺️
I just found your video and channel. Thank you for this! I am in my 50s and 3 years ago the pandemic stopped me from relaxing my hair. My salon waa closed for months and my then stylist moved out of state. I was forced to go natural. Now that I can go back to relaxed hair, I decided to embrace my natural hair. Plus the $ I'm saving is a plus. My 4C hair is fine, thin, and extremely coily. It will forever be a TWA no matter how much it grows It took ne until this summer to find the shampoo and hair.product combo that worked to keep my hair soft, without build up and my scalp itch free. Your video was a testiment that not everything works for everybody. You also made a whole lot of sense. And, as one who lived in southern Cali and the DC area, humidity does affect hiw the same product works on hair.
So again, thank you!
I think that no oils or butters appeals to people who wanna have successful wash and gos . It also works for hydration and scalp health! I have noticed that the method works its actually amazing !. Grease is good for protecting your hair your ends and things like that but you won't get as much definition if you're 4b 4c if you use a butter as opposed to a botanical gel. If you like to have a quick washday no oils butters is awesome too! I think washing our hair is also so important to getting that hydration ! So I think that was an important message! I find my hair is healthier when I wash it once a week.
I'm pretty sure everyone was using gel for wash and goes - not butters... So far, I havent seen anyone have any special results from the BGC method. The only difference is now people w/ 4c hair are actually shingling, which isn't even a new technique. It's very old actually, but since looser textures didn't have to do all that work for a wash n go, I guess people just decided to stop. Do you know any youtubers with 4c hair that do this method and get amazing results? I know Jenn Jackson does it, but her results are lackluster and not defined.
I have tight curls and I swear by the 30 day detox method! 🫶🏾
@@LethalLemonLime nah. BGC are not shingling at all. That creates an artificial curl pattern. I have seen BGC girls with wonderful results. You wash your hair, take in the shower, dry and go.. it’s wash hour not wash day. It’s time saving
I AGREE I STARTED USING WHATEVER IS GOOD ON MY HAIR APART FROM CANTU
The gag it NEVER started off as "no oils/no butters" it was influencers who coined that term and made it go viral lol. And this is the trouble with the broken telephone of the internet... it ended up causing people to reject things off rip because it was just a hashtag removed from it's original context.
Additionally... what a chemist or product developer cannot offer more **practical** advice than a stylist... on styling. It's kinda weird how that's happening
People can grow their hair with any ole products cause hair is gonna grow regardless. The part ppl been struggling with is styling and caring with ease & and predictability, and I think ppl have found that now.
Effective, accessible info (with receipts) is out here now. Whatever happens in this community going forward reflects 1. what the masses truly want for their lives 2. What the companies + capitalists can convince us we "need"
*** skin and hair have different principles, and they're not always great to compare.
I love the “convince us we need”!!! Thank you so much for sharing!
I definitely agree skin and hair are different principles. But wanted to highlight a relative approach that helped me understand order of operation!
Coming from the styling side. I always said I could make something shake regardless of what it was. Because it’s all technique. So I’m excited to use the technical side to test if we really just being sold cap or facts 😭
Black Girl Curls taught me how to love my natural hair. I swore that I didn’t have a curl pattern before hand. Now… my hair loves oil…. And I still pre poo. I do what works for my hair.
That part!!! I definitely learned I got some curls in this head. Especially around the time it seemed like the tighter coiled girls were being show to manipulate more than to wash and go!
I’ve gotten to the point where I use clarifying shampoos more often than moisturizing. My coils have been thriving ever since.
How often do you clarify?
@@Neesha242 it depends on what stylers I used before. If I used a heavier butter or cream, or if I added more products to make the style last longer, i’ll clarify then.
Something that I think people forget is that your hair will grow regardless what you put on it because that's what hair does. I think it's good to try different things and find what you like best. For me, following curl specialists is what makes the most sense. It's the no butters, no oils, washing weekly and using botanical products. It took maybe 2 months to see good results cause my hair and scalp had to detox. If that is not for you, do what feels right cause ain't nobody stopping you.
I liked this video.
I let these trends go in one ear and out the other! I’ve been natural intentionally and shaved my head in 1998! Shockingly my hair grew and I found ways to wear it even without social media, natural hair products, or natural hair professionals ( cause we didn’t have any back then!) Not saying the information can’t be helpful or we can’t learn anything. But you know the hair that grows out your head.
Same here. Went natural in 98. I've had everything from a fade to locks. I use oils, butters, creams, pre-poo, etc and my hair thrives. Do what works for your hair.
As ususal... Not a minute in and you got me LOLing 🤣
EDIT: A while back I commented on one of your videos about my toe dip into the no oils/creams pool (to me, it felt like they were saying that we shouldn't use anything on our hair after a wash and deep condition). My scalp feels great since I stopped using oils on it BUT my ends said HELL NAW! Where my creams at?! Mah lil hair dem cyah manage. I agree wholeheartedly with the other comments... DO what works best for YOU and YOUR HAIR.
Hair is like a plant that need consistent care and attention! I have made my hair grow and now it’s shedding like crazy I am going through a change in this journey that a lot of natural bloggers don’t talk about with truth! Like u said onions and vegetables mushed up is ridiculous! I want you to continue to be true and open because that is what growth is about!
Honestly, I consider myself a lazy natural (and this has always been my ministry) so I wash and go exclusively. My hair care regime is simple; I condition to detangle, shampoo (this step includes a clarifying shampoo and a conditioning shampoo), deep condition and a styler. I think stylists now preach no grease or oil because people don't use clarifying shampoos to get rid of the build up.
The fact is that most grease or oil heavy products aren't generally water soluble so if all you use is co-washes or gentle shampoos that don't clarify, you aren't getting all of that product out of your hair and that can lead to serious issues over time.
i second this because i swear i remember when i'd go to natural hair stylists they'd always use a clarifying shampoo before moisturising shampoo which is why I don't remember having these problems & i'd be using oils on my hair
I'm over here having a whole crisis because I can't figure out what to do. Before I went through a few years of depression and hair neglect, everybody was talking about moisturizing and sealing. I come back last week, and everybody is screaming no oils, no butters. Chile, I just... I don't even know man. Also, your personality got me screaming! LMAO
literally same like the back of my hair broke off a bit & i have dryness & I just want to resolve it!
My hair started to thrive when I started do what worked for me. Mousse and Gel is new for me and it works.
I still make and use my own Ayurvedic oils and tea spritz.
Following trends never worked for me.
I think the issue is a knowing your hair like porosity and curl type, knowing the environment that you live in, whether it is high humidity or low humidity, and understanding with the product is supposed to do for you. There is no one-size-fits-all and anyone who tries to say that is selling you something. The no butters no oils movement was in its core an attempt to get people to understand the texture of their hair unadulterated with product. That was pretty useless for me because I don't really focus on style as much as I do Health and condition. So if my hair is really frizzy one day I'm fine with that as long as it's not super dry and stressed. If the curls are popping one day, that's fine too. I think what gets us messed up is an obsession with achieving a specific look. If you're focused on achieving a specific look know that you have to incorporate particular style products in a particular way. If you're really just thinking about the health and condition of your hair you don't have to worry about any of that.
I feel this video on a deep level lol I too have been natural my whole life and all the opinions (presented as law) has me drained 😂 it makes it hard to create freely if you are an over thinker. Overall I am team I use what i want when I want and share my journey. Cheers to the lived experience 🥂
Yea, I'm TIIIIIIIIIIRED! It's too much! I think we've just got to try out whatever works for us and leave it there!
THIS IS THE CONVERSATION WE NEED TO BE HAVING!!!! How has the no oils no butters routine helped or hurt your hair living in SoFlo. And what are you using for your color treated hair?
I feel seen!!! This is spot on you speak for a lot of us. We went from not having enough info to a saturation of info. I got so overwhelmed that i stopped doing the thing that worked for me to listen to the specialist. My hair started shedding so much more and drying out more and they said to stick with it. It made no sense to me when my hair was thriving with what i was doing prior to that. Anyway I appreciate the info the professionals have and when i want a certain look i know what to do to achieve it but imma stick to what has been working. Regimen has to cater to your lifestyle , climate and hair needs. some1 said it best, “no 1 routine fits every hair”.
See this is why I started focusing on my hair goals instead of the specifics. My goal 2 years ago was to have faster wash and gos. So I started watching people who finish their hair pretty quickly and emulated them (like Bianca Renee Today). I went from wash weekend to wash day then wash hour and now I can do my ENTIRE routine from start to dry in 30 minutes. Now I have other goals to reach. I don’t feel like I’m going in circles anymore because the definition of my goals aren’t changing like the porosity and hair type and good/bad products.
Also getting in touch with what your health is doing is so important as well. It really makes a difference in what can happen with your hair.
I went back to weaves out of natural hair exhaustion but looking forward to following your journey! Forever subscriber 💕
That’s why I’m doing a series soon to help with this because I think what gets lost in translation is how important experimentation with your own unique lab (your hair). Because, information overload is real, but we’re often too cautious. We just have to jump in and get our feet wet FOR OURSELVES rather than trying to find the perfect, safest, reliable product or regimen…based on marketing. Great vid!
Yeahhhh I love this!!!! I do think the experimental part got lost. I feel like we got a gimped of it when people first started making videos and showcasing their journey. But at the time it was a heavy “I’m trying to get my hair to look like yours era”. So it quickly became a heavy product pushed tutorials era. Definitely let me know when your series drops! I’ll have to tune in!!
In terms of hair care products I think that the key is in the emulsifier (conditionning agent). you can have all the perfect oils, butter, fancy extract, if the emusifier does not suits you, the product won't work. (I'm a chemist by the way). Not all of emusifiers are "clean" so keep that in mind. First time seing your video, love everything and the energy :)
I liked the video immediately after the intro 😂 I no longer follow trends. I decided to just learn my hair and do what feels right for me. My hair has been healthy ever since I stopped trying to make it something it wasn’t ❤
Great video!!!! New Subscriber. I do want to say something about the hair typing. Please, just hear me out. I used to stress, try and try to get my hair to look like my neighbor’s. I thought that there was something wrong with me and my technique. I didn’t see the light until I saw the hair typing chart. It was the epiphany that I needed. All hair was not the same. Different hair came out of different scalps. There was nothing wrong with me. God made my hair different. I will forever be grateful for that revelation. Sometimes, I think, when people want to throw that away it seems that they are dismissing the fact that hair is different. Whether we call it Type 4, tight curl, tightly coiled, it’s the same thing. People need to know that no product in the world is going to change that. It is what God gave you. And I am thankful for the person that brought that to light.
I think it's about consistency, develop a simple routine and stick with it.
My high porosity, 4b hair loves to be sealed with grease and must be clarified with shampoo. I don’t look for moisture in shampoo.
Edit: for the girlies who don’t want a lot of oil and butters in their products… Pattern Beauty doesn’t have a high concentration of butters and oils. I had to use all the products on soak and wet hair though . Water=moisture , right . I got the shampoo, intensive conditioner, leave-in, cream, and oil.
Im with you Stacie! I follow the same routine. Clarifying is a must along with sealing with grease. Moisture and bounce for days!!
Same for me with moisturizing shampoos! Whenever I tried them out, my hair never felt or even LOOKED as clean as when I used clarifying shampoo. My hair low porosity hair needs all the build up off so it can breathe and not be weighed down. I focus the moisturizing factors with using quality conditioner now.
How often are you clarifying if you don’t mind me asking?
@@la4894 My wash day is every two weeks . If I remoisturize because I’m deciding to stretch my wash day I don’t go back in to seal with grease . Just leave-in and a light oil (I’m using jojoba at the moment) . So I only seal with grease on wash days.
@@staciegreene2262 Got you! I’ve been a careless natural for my whole life under braids etc my mum didn’t have the time for it all & it destroyed the health of my hair. So here I am 32 learning and trying new things from scalp care to moisture whilst natural, it’s a journey! So I appreciate you taking the time to explain
What a great video! A lot of this stuff has become confusing or seemingly contradictory, and I think some of it is a case of An elaborate broken telephone game. You are very right that there are different factors like lifestyle, environment, hair condition, etc that can affect how certain products perform for each individual. I have invested in stylist education because it helped me simplify my routine and get my hair on track with predictable and consistent results that I love. I think one of the issues that I am still seeing just from participating in a lot of lives where consumers ask questions is that people really don't even know what they want their own hair to do, and/or what their own hair is capable of. Which leads people to buy a bunch of products and get confused/overwhelmed because they think they need everything. Some people will get so focused on ingredients that they will buy products that aren't ideal for the way they want to wear their hair. A lot of people don't even know what products to use depending on what style they want, so they use the wrong products or use them wrong and then think nothing works for them. I think we all need streamlining when it comes to all of these nuances, so I am looking forward to your future content. I think you have a unique perspective that will help push us in that direction!
Awwww thank you so much for watching!!! I definitely agree HEAVILY that people don’t even know what they want with their own hair. Cause I’ve lived that life without even knowing it. Especially depending on what stage you are in your life. I feel like now I have to remind myself that I literally just leave my house as is. I don’t need to do a whole bunch of extra stuff and to take notice of my reasoning for doing so in the first place. I’m excited to share my journey especially as raw and authentically as CZcams will let me 😭 And thank you so much for sharing 🤗
I feeeellllttt this! The isolation, the confusion, the research, the confusion, the radical differences of people advocating for one thing and downing the vise versa…..the confusion😅😂 it can be ALL too much at times. Ever since I started my journey I went straight to CZcams to try to find people that had hair like mine to learn from them. However, EVERYTHING is a factor. Genetics, overall health, environment, POROSITY, etc etc. I have low porosity and fine hair so I felt like I had to be extra careful and make sure I’m catering to it the way I need. Last year or so, I did the no product at all in my hair (after I wash and do a deep condition rinse out ofc). I would just spray with warm water and do a twistout and rely on sebum to get me through. I wasn’t really scrinching the sebum down my hair shaft and doing proper trims which I felt like would’ve helped more however, my hair was doing fine it just needed to be moisturized more down the shaft. Now I’m trying out using sunflower oil as a moisturizer and jojoba oil as a sealant after I spray my hair with warm water and I’m going to try to wash my hair every week and a half. I’m on a moisturized and hair growth at least down past my collarbone journey so, hopefully this works for me and if it doesn’t, I just need to be patient and still try to take care of Lucky (my hair name bc I’m lucky to have her 😪🤧) the best I can and not get overwhelmed and stressed out by other peoples pov. At the end of the day, I still have my own which is valuable as well!
Girlll this video is the truth!!! That VO5 and Suave use to be bae!! 😂😂😂😂My hair use to grow so fast, but I got caught up in the hoopla. I'm thinking about going back to Giovanni products, Cholesterol deep conditioner and green eco gel. lol 😆😂 Awesome video!! 😊 Thanks for sharing
Listennnnn. That strawberries and cream collection had a CHOKEHOLD on my household ok!
And I definitely agree. I was always a minimal touch girl anyway until I started making videos especially style videos. And I noticed how much manipulation and certain “protective styles” was doing more harm than good.
I’m definitely glad to take the road a little slower travel and share what I find with you all! Thank you so much for watching!!!
I'm glad you made this video! I just recently got introduced to people saying no oils, no butters. I follow this stylist named Curlhealer. Her line that she recommends is Innersense. She's also said uncle funky is ok. Her rule of thumb is they can have oils or butters just not in the first 4 ingredients as those are the ingredients more abundant in the product. I also love that you can get a virtual consult with her.
Awww thank you for watching and sharing! Yeah I definitely have been mindful of the order of ingredients after checking out the TheCurlyChemist who does the breakdown from the chemical/formulation side! Definitely agree with your stylist. I noticed formulations that had oil in the top 4 ingredients just left my hair greasy feeling if anything.
I loved this video…I’m heavy on doing what works for me. I’m not going to do it because I’ve been told “not to.” I’m excited to see your content in this new perspective 😁😍
I'm so glad this was in my recommendations. I have been going through a whole month of trial and tribulation and I am so overwhelmed. I have about $200 worth of different hair products from all sorts of brands and I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm just gonna take a breather.
Just thank you for this video, I really needed to hear this.
I was like this until I realized I wasn't actually paying attention to my hair. Once I made a conscious effort to pay attention to what my hair liked and didn't like, I was able to just focus on the products/methods that worked for me. For example, when trying a new product I just paid attention to how my curls looked afterwards. I paid attention at every step: prepoo, shampoo, conditioner, deep conditioner, moisturizer and sealant. If my curls didn't bounce and look shiny, then I knew to cut that product out of my routine and try something else. If my scalp felt itchy or dry, then I definitely got rid of the product. Just ignore the influencer noise, coz most of them are being paid to hawk products anyway😒, and look at your hair and how it feels. Good luck🫶🏾
So happy you're back!
I think he difference between the clarifying and moisturizing shampoos lies in the pH. CS have a higher pH and that's why the tell you to follow up with a MS to lower it before conditioning.
Also skin and skin care is different from hair and hair care. I wouldn't try to extrapolate methods from one to apply to the other.
I'm not a professional and I'm on team no raw oils and butters
Ahhhh Thanks you so much for watching! And thank you for the information! I looked it up because you know I’m team education! And there are different PH balances in a CS and a MS! Since a Clarifying shampoo is more alkaline it does make the hair softer but over use (of course) leads to brittle hair. Whereas a Moisturizing shampoo is more acidic which allows the hair shaft to soften but retain more moisture. So I’ll still have both but definitely will be cautious of over usage and the correlation with breakage.
For the skin reference. I definitely agree about extrapolating those methods. My original intent was to share some what of a visualization that has helped me kind of simply or make sense of certain usage.
I would loveee to hear about your no butter and oil journey and anything you’ve learned/notice. As well as how long you’ve been on it! I’m still on that team too. Especially when it comes to ease. But I’m always interested to hear other peoples experiences and journeys!
I'm sorry but this is not true. Why would a clarifying shampoo need to be more alkaline or have a higher pH? That is damaging and damage is not reversed by putting a conditioner on it (it just neutralizes the charge) since damage is irreversible. Although this kind of damage is the slow over time buildable type rather than the instant type (unless it's severely alkaline or severly acidic). Tons of shampoos that aren't considered clarifying have alkaline pHs. Some brands actually care about pH like redken so all their shampoos are at the proper pH for hair between 3.5 and 5.5 regardless of the shampoo. Why would a clarifying shampoo need to be alkaline? Is it because of the false belief that in order for it to cleanse your hair it needs to lift your cuticles? Water already does that on its own so it would be unnecessary and potentially damaging to purposefully try to lift it even more. Unfortunately, many shampoos, regardless of type, already have alkaline pHs. Some up to 8 even, but purposefully making a shampoo alkaline doesn't seem to be ideal for hair health. Another reason why alkaline shampoos aren't ideal is because an "alkaline pH may increase the negative electrical charge of the hair fiber surface and, therefore, increase friction between the fibers. This may lead to cuticle damage and fiber breakage." This is a direct quote from a study hence they quotation marks. This is most important for shampoos since conditioners, leave ins, etc. have cationic surfactants. Shampoos have anionic surfactants and that's what cleanses the hair. Anionic surfactants are negatively charged already. But at a higher pH level, it can be harder for the conditioner to neutralize the charge. Water has a pH around 7 but water doesn't have anionic surfactants that would further increase the negative electrical charge whilst also stripping your hair of lipids. This comment is getting to long and it's hard to type this on my phone, but basically an alkaline pH is not necessary to clean or "clarify" your hair. There are clarifying shampoos that are pH balanced.
I never follow up with a moisturizing shampoo because that’s what my conditioner and deep conditioner is for.
"Are they all right from different POVS?" YES!!!!!! That's it exactly!!!
Great video cuz! Now you know I dont care what nobody got to say about my relaxer. I got to keep it simple and relaxing my hair is what works for me. But what I think I’m gonna do next is a brush cut.❤
Thanks for watching cuz ❤️❤️❤️ Ans I definitely know! I’m excited to seee ya new look 🤗
I have enjoyed immense growth since going natural. BUT, I worked with professionals who knew what they were doing.
Crochet braids lasted 3 months with regular maintenance with my stylist for a solid year and I was shocked at the results.
However, once my hair reached a plateau then we had to figure this "next level."
I'm excited and anxious but understand the need to chemically understand what my hair is telling me and not be afraid to ACV rinse my hair regardless of how long a style has stayed in my head if I don't like it.
Thank You.
Omg. You can really see the behaviour of your hair has changed! :D Looking forward to this video. :D
I no longer apply raw oils and butters to my hair! I use formulated products with oils and butters in my routine.
Well said. Cause I had it up to here 💁♀. We keep forgetting that this is literally a journey.
great points. i wanted ease and simplicity so i went on a loc journey. all i used was soap, water, and raw oils/butters on my scalp (not down the loc itself) and my hair had never been healthier, longer, stronger, and easier for me in my life. but i was VERY much satisfied with my hair at any given point. the most “switch up” i would do is a messy bun when i wanted to shake it up. i didnt even particularly like a scalpy “fresh retwist” look, so i never felt the need to use gels. now i only have like 3 inches of hair ✂️ i still wanted ease so i still didnt do nothin. but when i started to feel dissatisfied with the shape, i has to commit to either a length journey, another cut, a color journey, or be willing to put in more active effort on the daily in styling. which ofc means i need different products to help support and moisturize the strands throughout manipulation, prevent frizz etc etc - its a whole new beast cuz my goals shifted. i like the pick your own adventure aspect of it all, but i think if everyone stopped saying things so conclusively and started adding conditions and like providing their reasons for their claims it would clear the air a bit. itll be nice to see you bridging that gap between the professionals’ claims and the consumers’ potential needs. thank you for putting so much thought into ur craft! looking forward to your new direction :)🫶🏾
I feel so validated! I felt so isolated, trying to find the right products for the right price. I remember going to the store and trying to find something that "works". I honestly feel so much better about using what I like after watching this video.
I use what works for me and my hair is flourishing. A good haircare stylist will listen to their clients and then if there is a problem, work with the client to address it.
I've been natural for decades and it took decades for me to figure out how to blend my hair's needs with my wants. My desired (and obtained) butt length hair requires A LOT more wash day time than I initially wanted to invest. My hair and scalp health required me to stay focused on my diet along with what I'm applying. I've accepted that my hair and scalp has responded so much better to my 100% DIY hair care and Ayurveda than anything store bought, which requires more work, but it's worth the effort. What you said about the environment and routine are so true. Years ago, I used to love using shea butter after my conditioner but I stopped. I wasn't washing my hair often enough and the store bought shampoo I was using at the time didn't wash it all out. It stayed dry as the sahara with brittle ends. I've learned heavy butters aren't good for when I was using them in my routine and switched to sealing oils to retain moisture. I've never seen a natural hair video that discusses how diet can impact your hair and change how hair may respond to different products. People will mention "drink plenty of water" but that is it. It's weird how a connection has not been made. A few years ago, I cleaned up what I was eating for gut health not thinking about the impact to my hair. Suddenly, my hair is softer, the texture is smoother and takes in product better. I finger detangle and can feel the demarcation line. It's amazing.
I agree with everything you said in this video! What really helped me was finding a natural hair content creator who has the same hair texture as me. I feel like too many people will follow a creator because they like their personality but their hair routine won't work for them. I've definitely spent some money on products but I feel now that I found what's best. Also, the environment is something a lot of people look over! If you live in the South, it makes no sense to follow a creator who lives in the Northeast. The climate is so different. For this reason, it's important to change your hair routine based on the season. What works for my hair in the winter is not what works in the summer.
I’ll never forget when I first went to my hair stylist in 2019 and she told me that all of my hair products had oils and butters formulated in them so why add more? Since I’m a minimalist this was perfect for me, no raw oils or butters.
I grew my hair to bra strap length using Shea butter ( Alikay Naturals) and TGIN daily butter cream in mini twist then I tried the no oils or butter for like 30 days doing wash n go's but I didn't have the right products to continue it and my hair was not thriving. Then I tried the Blue magic grease and I didn't like it. I wanted to be a wash n go girl but my lifestyle is more of chunky twist type of life.
Chiiiiiillle same! Closet full of $10-$20+ products...FULL BOTTLES. I really gave up when I watched a video with creator CONFIDENTLY saying oils were terrible, never use any of them. Next video a lady with the most beautiful curls I've ever seen showed us how she used oils weekly. Like WTF?!
Omg I love how you broke down all these natural hair topics and pin pointed what could actually be the problem. It’s honestly quite frustrating seeing us tear each other down when the natural hair influencers literally helped us to learn to embrace more of our natural hair. Blaming others for a certain hairstyle that didn’t match up to your personal hair is so out of pocket because we are all LITERALLY different people, so with that being said, why would a twist out on a natural hair influencer look 100 percent the exact same on a twist out me? We are unique and that’s it. Being different is so beautiful, being relaxed is so beautiful, wearing box braids and weaves year round is so beautiful. At the end of the day, if you’ve gained new knowledge to treat your hair however you want then you’ve succeeded in black girl beauty. #Period
The clarifying shampoo made your hair feel better because it's taking off any buildup from hard water and products.
I went back to blue magic and still use my oils
I do what I want and what's best for MY hair. I don't do oils or butters and that was before this so called movement. My hair doesn't like them, my hair becomes dehydrated. I wash my hair every week PERIOD bc my scalp won't have it any other way 😩😂. I use water and gel, shake, and go.
Your interpretation is correct, no RAW oils or butters on your hair.
Girllll this is exactly how I feel about health lifestyle and beginning a gym routine, everybody saying something different! Just do what works for you fr
Ooooo thissssss. I just show up for myself test out what works. Drop what doesn’t and keep it pushing.
I'm with you. These women yelling on twitter weren't there in 2007 when we were fending for ourselves. They gotta calm down a bit.
I appreciate your video so much! You addressed a makor consumer issue targeting the natural hair community, thank you!❤
I remember coming to CZcams once I went natural in 2011and actually finding a community that helped to guide. There were some old school naturalistas who were pushy but for the most part you found help. A lot of these new school influencers and new wave people are a part of the "war" like culture. It's an all or nothing type of mentality. It's caused so much derision and self contemplation and a lot of people ARE MFKN TIIIIIIIDE! 🤣🤣🤣
your point at 17:00 is so valid. Girl it is all the same ingredients plus some marketing
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I've resorted to being a lazy natural. Been natural pretty much all my life. Relaxed once when I was 15, instantly regretted it, big chopped 6 months later!
I used to spend whole days on wash days because my hair in every step I would have to detangle multiple times. For me... I stretch my hair and detangle a day before, after a style, and used moisturizing cleansers which only 2 that I can use.
Otherwise, everyday I'm rocking my braids like Crazy Eyes (OITNB) sometimes with a beanie or scarf cover.
I learned "natural hair care" products and techniques when I first read a book "plaited glory" by lonnice bonner the year Obama was elected. After growing it to mid back I don't know why I relaxed it. But I grateful for all the CZcams natural hair community for giving a broader perspective of natural hair and products to me. All these years I still occasionally stumble and need to switch up.
So I say just do and use what works for you!
I've been natural for 1 Year now... I like being a natural! My stylist was surprised 😯 to see how I cut my hair short. But with protective style of Braids and wash & condition my hair with hot oil treatments every 2 weeks... This is my hair routine and it's working for me. Sincerely, Latasha Davis
The opening 😂😂😂 girl ppl always feel like they must pick a side. Most of those ppl just want to feel a sense of belonging to a community. Ppl don’t want to stand on their own and say , I’m just going to do what works for ME!!
PERIODT😭😭
Love your videos! Everything you talked about in this video I’m like MORE MORE MORE! I would love to see you dive into this journey and especially how different product work in different environments!
Yeah it’s too much. People need to do what works for them. I use Henna for my greys every month even though the no oil people said it was poison.
I loved and needed this video. As a natural girlie for life who has had a JOURNEY with her hair I love hearing other peoples experience. Your place in this community is always valued.
I am here for whatever you have in store for the foreseeable future. Imma be right here with this notification bell on. 🔔
I want to take a moment & say,"My Hair Twin Sister...I thank you & I love you for being so honest, clear on the lines between personal opinions & verifiable, factual, helpful information for us out here. I love your spirit & willingness to take us on your journey which in turn helps us naturals continue on our own journeys as well!!! From the bottom n of my heart Thank you Sis, keep going, keep sharing & keep living your joyful, humorous, intelligent & Blessed life🙏🏾🥰🙏🏾
It’s not about the products it’s about your application and technique.
Honestly as a cosmetologist myself I think it all boils down to washing your hair. Just. Wash your hair with a surfactant (cleansing agent) containing cleanser that works for your hair. Condition it well. Everything else imo is preference. The only thing I feel like is actually like, harmful to your scalp, is to never do substantial cleansing. Ya scalp needs to be cleaned regularly. The whole only conditioner no cleansing agents in sight thing is the only thing I will say to not do. Everything else? Negotiable. Grease? Sure. Cream? Sure. Only gel? Sure. No oil? Sure. All oil? Sure. Just clean your hair in between.
Yesss👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 I had to remember who head this is and I’m not going to stop using my products and they give what they suppose not give I’m going to do what’s good for me and my hairl❤