Thanks for the mention! Glad my testing has been useful. I couldn’t find any definitive info on those TN-NA3 cells. I was expecting the worst as you started opening that pack up but it wasn’t quite the nightmare I thought it was going to be...assuming the electronics work. 😁 Looking forward to your testing of those packs!
They'll work, but if I were to run them I'd at least open the packs up to make sure all the spot welds took. Seeing how some of those are barely on there, a few knocks and you have a disconnected cell - working the other in it's pair doubly hard and undoubtedly reverse charging it when running the pack down. (I took apart a few hundred overboard packs years ago and found the same issue - barely on there or not even attached cells.)
Great database! I realize, as a robot builder, I have different priorities from most users of your database. I would like to see grams per cell in the database. Robot competitions have weight limits.
I use the cheapies for running some of the stuff that gets knocked around a lot less. Site radio, work lights, fan etc. Saves the skookum ones for using with the tools what actually get given a hot supper.
That was my thought - if you've committed to a single battery tool ecosystem and have a dozen different tools with the same batts, you can save the skookum name brand ones for the big boy tools doing hard work and use the cheap ones so you can have a secondary tool on the go at once (drill and screwdriver, or work lights and what have you)
I try to have only tools which are able to swap batteries. Difficult but possible. I keep name brand tools but I dislike using the good tools in less than savory environments so the cheapies get volunteered for said tasks. Which also includes the "badderies"! I don't mind allowing a helper using those tools, then, while I perform the show work with legitimate and decent tools. Though I do have good tools which have been replaced and are now the crapwork tools. Things like an old wormdrive being used to cut holes through shingles or a smaller (12-18v) battery drill used for vehicle maintenance and repair and the 20 and bigger voltage stuff kept in their pristine condition for clean work. It's a strained and strange dance but tools aren't as cheap as those big box stores would like for us to believe.
That was my plan but turns out the dab radio will discharge the chinese battery dry if your not careful and it does not take a charge after that, went with a. Bang when I had 2p’s stuck in the terminals with a battery charger connected 😂 I’ve learned my lesson
@@arduinoversusevil2025 especially in the middle east, some suit and tie in london who ships cars around there noted certain "inefficiencies" in doing business there. i surmise he doesn't keep a pool of cash around for "operational expenses".. slipping a fixer a greenback or two works wonders over there..
My dear ol dad used to tell me after getting a finger or two caught between something that moves and something that don’t “never put yer fingers anywhere you wouldn’t want to leave them”. Sound advice.
I would like to know how they react with Makitas systems for overloading, battery charge counts, overheating, voltage drop and of course longevity. If some of these could be tested in an upcoming vijeo that would be great. Cheers for another great watch.
Not as scientific as you'd like I'm sure....but they didn't last long for me in high current tools. They seem to perform on par with my OEM batteries in low current applications though, or low duty cycle (LED lights, impact, etc.) I use the knockoffs for lighting, impact, phone & device charging...and OEM for bandsaws, big drills, vacuum, etc and it's totally worth the savings.
I have had mostly bad results from the ones I have tried. About half of them have failed over a fairly short period of time. I have used them as I would any other Makita battery and I use them in a dozen different Makita tools in a professional environment so they were not babied. I will stick to the Makita brand.
I have a pair of cheapos, on for light duty stuff I am not able to tell a difference. Use it in my impact driver, and a light. Haven't tried them in my reciprocating saw yet. If the batteries die, will replace them myself.
Had bought one of those cheapo batterias, use them mostly for dead trees, sanding, drilling, an impact driver, it lasted 2 months. After 2 years of hard use, the legit makitas are still running like new (apart from the battery indicator plastic thingy that popped off, just reglued it with the hot shmoo).
Speaking of degloving.... One of my brothers mates, on the eve of his first wedding anniversary, was out with so of the boys getting rowdy on the town. They decided they wanted in at a local establishment, but didn’t want to pay the extortionate cover charge. So, as young men do, went round the back and jumped over the fence. As he went over said boundary device, his wedding ring got caught on top, and as he landed on the ground another punter called out “hey mate you dropped something”. When he picked whatever it was up, it was his entire finger with ring still wrapped around.
Father in law lost his finger due to a ring also. As an automotive tech , I do not wear mine , seen to many guys short out on battery terminals and severe burn instantly.
The cheapo ones always have lower discharge rate. Makita cells more than likely have 20amp+ rated discharge cells where the cheapo will have 10amp. Not a big deal with a radio or a light but power tools will stall out under load.
Hey there AvE. I just wanted to say thank you. I’ve watched your videos for a while and I have learned lots from you. I started to take apart some of my tools and co workers tools and managed to fix them or make them better. With your videos I’ve saved well over $1000 Canadian pesos. Thank you for the knowledge! Keep on keepin on
Long time listener, fist time caller. Saying your wedding band is a reminder of needing to be safe is so true. Thank you for saying out loud. Having a family comes first. The kids and I miss Chickade in the shop. Every time she is with you I would hear a few extra chuckles from my little ones. Thank you for the help inspiring my kids to be out in the shop with me.
I’ve got that exact same set of fucky fastener removal bits. Once found a delta screw on a helmet cam and had to grind a Robertson driver into a triangle to remove them. There’s nothing built by man that this man can’t take apart and break. And the fastener fairy always drops off some spares during reassembly when you're not looking.
@@juststeve5542 I just bought 3 x 10mm and 3 x 13mm spanners to complete my sets. Got three of those sets each got an additional 10mm and 13mm when purchased. So I'm surrounded by tens and thirteens. Few I've lost are coming back on me from time to time.
You need a silicone wedding band. I got one after I turned my titanium one into an arc welder with a mower starter solenoid!!!!!! Nearly pissed myself.
It's no joke, and no shame in nearly pissing yourself. I've full-on soaked my socks due to electrimicity. Still wear a cunsten targlide band to this day, but very careful in doing so.
So true! He is a saint to mech modders! Especially when he said that material didn't make a difference, finally I could have a mech that doesn't make my hands smell like dirty pennies!
@@MonsterBuddy10 I'm a commercial welder/plumber there's days I put up 100s of feet of copper all the cleaning of pipe and fittings plus flux I know all about smell and green hands even using gloves and scrubbing hands multiple times when I get home. That God forsaken smell is tough to get rid of from your skin.
I've found with the cheapos when they do decide to go it's nearly always while they're in the battery charger, the toxic goo that comes out not only leaves a mess but has you questioning if you can trust the charger even with good batteries ever again. the quality batteries eventually fade but die quietly - with safety in their own circuits they knows not to keep trying to charge, the cheapos will one day [soon] suddenly develop severe incontinence and not having proper cut-off (temp, over-current) circuitry keep on sucking juice out of the charger even after the smoke happens. (luckily I've never seen flames yet, but man must have been close - could feel the heat radiating off them.) Time to fetch the long tongs and a thick wall container for the coffin. (even then a few layers of bags and attach a written warning so some idjit doesn't try to recycle it.)
I got some similars, the ones with the LED electron meter. So fur have outlasted longer than the OEM Makita which drip roasted a cell within a year. Ain't complainin'.
I lost it with "filthy wood elf" and "tree carcass fondler". Your lingo gets me everytime. I pick it up and end up sounding like a lunatic with my crew.
I've taken a _lot_ of those makita batts apart over the last decade (14V version). Those cheapo ones are actually a bit crapper than all the non-makita ones I've looked at - mostly because they've not bothered with the cell bracing. In our tests (we use them for caving so the packs get a lots of physical abuse) the copy packs perform just as well as the genuine ones in terms of longevity - both cells and physical/waterproofing. All the copy batts have actually used pretty good cells, in the same class as the Makita ones, and have very good measured capacity, even the 4Ah and 5Ah ones. But I didn't buy the cheapest and nastiest ones I could find - I tried to get half-decent, which is always a bit of a game of course. The main problem with all of these batts is the stupid protocol where Makita write to the flash of the battery to set it in 'never charge again' mode if there are three attempts in a row to charge with a low cell. Invariably the packs are fine, and we've had some last for more than 6 years after Makita's internal software declared them scrap. Millions of perfectly good packs must be being binned. One day I should write all this up.
My tungsten wedding band once saved my finger while working on a quarry screen deck. It took the impact from the 1500lb counterweight and fractured and pinched the shite out of me, but I still had a finger when I went home that day. FYI though, the replacement for the broken band hangs on a nail above my desk. I'm a machinist these days, and I'm pretty fond of all my finger skin. ✌
Those discharge plots @6:28, were made with a battery analyzer from West Mountain Radio. I have several of these analyzers, and I’ve never had a problem with any of them. They’re accurate and pretty darn durable. The software is first rate, as well. I can test anything from single AAA cells, to forklift batteries. Depending on the application, I test all of my batteries, one or twice per year. (Deep cycle, forklift, sump pump, R/C batteries, power tools, etc.) I keep a log of each battery, to determine where it’s at, in terms of its lifespan. I have another channel, where I discuss the technical aspects of drones. This analyzer lets me give very accurate and objective testing, of OEM and aftermarket drone and R/C plane/car/truck batteries. You can test batteries, in many other ways, but true capacity testing is what tells the complete story. (IR readings are also good to take, when the battery is new, and as it ages.) It’s also great to use, if you are trying to determine if someone is selling you ‘B’ grade or overrated batteries. I have purchased aftermarket batteries, on eBay and Amazon, tested them, found that they were crap, and was able to return them, because I could show proof that they were defective. The software runs well on Windows XP (and above), which means that if you have an old XP computer laying around, you can put it to use, analyzing batteries. If you’re a ham radio operator, they also sell a lot of very unique and well built radio interfaces and power distribution equipment. They have great tech support, a great reputation and I can’t recommend them enough. If you use a lot of batteries, or need to grade them, as I do, this analyzer would be perfect for your needs. It’s not cheap, but it’s not overly expensive, either. *(I have no affiliation with them. I’m just a very happy customer.)* www.westmountainradio.com/cba.php
As usual AvE gives us home gamers great information about cheaper made batteries. My biggest concern is the safety aspect and I look forward to further testing from AvE regarding that.
It would be really interesting to see the actual preformance of them, maybe even if there is a way you can "tourture" test them for longevity and see how they do!!! Thanks for all of your vijeos!
I bought a Milwaukee knock off battery just to have as a spare back up one. It's been holding up pretty good. I use it in a grease gun so it's not usually get abused to bad. The biggest problem I've had is the screw that hold the case together had the plastic mounts start to break. I wrapped it in some electrical tape and it's still going fine.
As you say, i all depend on how often they are pressed into service. If you're only drilling a couple of holes a week (fnar, fnar), they'll be fine. If you're obliged to go for more than the full two minutes then not so much.
I got some cheap batteries when I started working on my first site. Helped get me a set of tools and I'm just slowly phasing them out with real ones. The plus is a git lots of cells for my vape when they go pop
I've fixed a few batteries thanks to your videos, the problem with the DeWalt ones is they break in the same spot on the case and you can't buy the good cases so I have a bunch of DeWalt batteries without a case I'll probably just end up using the cells for something else
Hey Uncle Bumble, just curious about your thoughts on tattoo'd on rings to keep under the metal one. I think its a decent compromise between keeping the MRS. happy and keeping my fingers on my hand. Mama gave 'em to me after all, so I'm trying to take care of them
I heard a lot of guys get a silicone one to wear at work. They're stretchy so if they get caught in something they'll just snap right off instead of degloving your fingie.
Thanks Uncle for the review. I’ve been trusting the genuine Makita batterias since I think 1992 with my first drill. I did try some of the Chinesium knockoffs for my 14.4 drills when the real ones got hard to find and I can’t say anything bad about them after about 5 years they still chooch.
I've been using a couple of these cheap 5.0 ah dewalt replicas for the past 3 years (carpenter) and the're still doing fine. Less than half the price so definitely worth it
I tried cutting out as much sugar in my diet and only eating food with one ingredient (meat, egg, carrot) with in moderation of course. I m 55 and now feel like I m 20 again.
I'm glad that you don't take sponsorship, or I'd look at this video as product placement. Thank you for being an island of authenticity. (Long may the women in your life keep you that way.)
Nothing beats a battery surmounted in prefamulated amulite. No way you’ll ever experience any side fumbling or deplaneration. If only they had thought to include hydrocoptic marzel vanes in the design too.
For a home gamer looking to upgrade from Ryobi but too cheap for Milwaukee, what do you guys recommend? I'm leaning towards Makita but also considering DeWalt.
The first safety class I had in Army electronics school was: “Remove your watches, rings, and dangly things”(i.e dog tags). Yes. Everything is an acronym or it rhymes in the Army.
I have a few cheap-o batteries for my Milwaukee M12 stuff, they work great on the Bluetooth speakers and crap I don't really need to do my job. I won't use them in an actual tool though. Plus they will only charge in the M12 only charger, not the M12/M18 charger. they do server a purpose, just not a very crucial one. Thanks for the video
Hey I'm a painter and just wondering your thoughts on getting a smaller Graco 390 to run on DC battery power, like 2 or three drill batteries in series, just enough run time to paint a front door and clean... Love to hear your thoughts on this
Loving seeing some more Makita stuff dissected. The fake Makita battery game is so hot, I can't tell the good fakes from the OEM. The packaging is so good these days. I have 4 x 5ah of the one OEM you dissected and arguable the 2 x 5ah ones I suspect are fakes run harder in my DUC353 chainsaw. MORE PLEASE
Great video, thanks. FYI, the CE symbol means the product meets the requirements of the applicable EEC directives, it does NOT mean it was manufactured in China.
I got roped into these a while back. After about 3 months I found out why so much for little. You need 4 of the damn things to add up to the real deal.
For a drill or work light the Nakita/DeWilt batteries are alright, but for the rotary hammer or sawzall that you're giving a hot supper to the factory batteries usually put out more pixies before getting crusty.
I dunno about you guys but I have four Makita packs and one knockoff and I always feel like I’m cheating on the good lady when I use the nasty one. Sure, she gets the job done (so far) but for an alleged 4Ah pack it doesn’t feel like it has any more chooch than the 2Ah Makita. Lot lighter than the equivalent OEM pack too, and for me that’s always the giveaway. Them pixies are heavy.
I bought knock off Milwaukee m12 batteries just to salvage the black plastic bottom with the clips Because Milwaukee clips snap after a few months The Chinese ones don't break The cells are junk but their plastic is better quality than genuine
I had a V18 Milwaukee knock off from ebay back in the day. Had to mill the rails to get it to fit on the drill without a hammer. Didn't burn the shop down.
Thanks for the mention! Glad my testing has been useful.
I couldn’t find any definitive info on those TN-NA3 cells. I was expecting the worst as you started opening that pack up but it wasn’t quite the nightmare I thought it was going to be...assuming the electronics work. 😁 Looking forward to your testing of those packs!
Man, Mooch replying to Uncle Bumblefuck.... Wtb crossover vid now.
They'll work, but if I were to run them I'd at least open the packs up to make sure all the spot welds took. Seeing how some of those are barely on there, a few knocks and you have a disconnected cell - working the other in it's pair doubly hard and undoubtedly reverse charging it when running the pack down. (I took apart a few hundred overboard packs years ago and found the same issue - barely on there or not even attached cells.)
Great database!
I realize, as a robot builder, I have different priorities from most users of your database. I would like to see grams per cell in the database. Robot competitions have weight limits.
Fancy seeing you here Mooch
oh a fellow vapist
cheers, mate
(Still too beefy to remove ring) "I CHOOSE to wear this ring!"
Don't stick your fingie where you don't stick your dinkie dude...
Nah, he CHEWS*
Beef nah, that's pork there.
I use the cheapies for running some of the stuff that gets knocked around a lot less. Site radio, work lights, fan etc.
Saves the skookum ones for using with the tools what actually get given a hot supper.
Slartybartpharst well spoken
That was my thought - if you've committed to a single battery tool ecosystem and have a dozen different tools with the same batts, you can save the skookum name brand ones for the big boy tools doing hard work and use the cheap ones so you can have a secondary tool on the go at once (drill and screwdriver, or work lights and what have you)
Brilliant, actually.
I try to have only tools which are able to swap batteries. Difficult but possible. I keep name brand tools but I dislike using the good tools in less than savory environments so the cheapies get volunteered for said tasks. Which also includes the "badderies"! I don't mind allowing a helper using those tools, then, while I perform the show work with legitimate and decent tools. Though I do have good tools which have been replaced and are now the crapwork tools. Things like an old wormdrive being used to cut holes through shingles or a smaller (12-18v) battery drill used for vehicle maintenance and repair and the 20 and bigger voltage stuff kept in their pristine condition for clean work. It's a strained and strange dance but tools aren't as cheap as those big box stores would like for us to believe.
That was my plan but turns out the dab radio will discharge the chinese battery dry if your not careful and it does not take a charge after that, went with a. Bang when I had 2p’s stuck in the terminals with a battery charger connected 😂 I’ve learned my lesson
"It's my shop, I'm fockin' right!" - next t-shirt, please.
I second that.
or in the next sticker pack, bare minimum.
OOORR... a metal sign would be the tits!
need this. take monies.
was just about to comment the same thing!! definitely needs to be stickers!!!! small and big! short and tall!!!
Yes!
How could they miss calling them fakita.
Mockita
How did you comment 4 days before the video went up?
@@Dani2wheels back to the future :D haha,someone below did the same
@@Dani2wheels don't know for sure, but I would guess the video have been available for patreons before being accessible for the rest of us.
Nikita
"I like the ring, it reminds me actually to be careful, because there are people who rely on me"
🥺 I didn't come here for the feels
AVE continues to speak about 10 languages knowing only the important bits - swears, ordering alcohol, and confusing locals.
you forget "where's the toilet" and "where's a bail bondsman?" are also important.
@@oldninjarider I've dropped the "bail bondsman" requirement in favour of "baksheesh"; the universal lubricant. Mama didn't raise no fool.
@@arduinoversusevil2025 lol , ave the bribery type
@@gustavgnoettgen its canaderp
@@arduinoversusevil2025 especially in the middle east, some suit and tie in london who ships cars around there noted certain "inefficiencies" in doing business there. i surmise he doesn't keep a pool of cash around for "operational expenses".. slipping a fixer a greenback or two works wonders over there..
I love it when he's a couple of beers in. Best videmomathingaficating ever.
"Who flung dung brand" i almost spit my drink
I'm personally offend by that remark, because I didn't come up with it
Get over it, scrub lol
I'm sure he has visited Straya at some point, That saying is about 20 years old here.
For serious man! This guys effortlessly hilarious
Cream of sum yong man
My dear ol dad used to tell me after getting a finger or two caught between something that moves and something that don’t “never put yer fingers anywhere you wouldn’t want to leave them”. Sound advice.
That Flame Logo doesn't exactly inspire confidence!
It's a warning label lol
"Intel Inside"
I actually know a foreman who had these batteries and they caught fire whilst charging. Beware
"Screwed, glued, and tattooed" Gotta love it.
I would like to know how they react with Makitas systems for overloading, battery charge counts, overheating, voltage drop and of course longevity. If some of these could be tested in an upcoming vijeo that would be great. Cheers for another great watch.
Not as scientific as you'd like I'm sure....but they didn't last long for me in high current tools. They seem to perform on par with my OEM batteries in low current applications though, or low duty cycle (LED lights, impact, etc.)
I use the knockoffs for lighting, impact, phone & device charging...and OEM for bandsaws, big drills, vacuum, etc and it's totally worth the savings.
I have had mostly bad results from the ones I have tried. About half of them have failed over a fairly short period of time. I have used them as I would any other Makita battery and I use them in a dozen different Makita tools in a professional environment so they were not babied. I will stick to the Makita brand.
I have a pair of cheapos, on for light duty stuff I am not able to tell a difference. Use it in my impact driver, and a light. Haven't tried them in my reciprocating saw yet. If the batteries die, will replace them myself.
Had bought one of those cheapo batterias, use them mostly for dead trees, sanding, drilling, an impact driver, it lasted 2 months. After 2 years of hard use, the legit makitas are still running like new (apart from the battery indicator plastic thingy that popped off, just reglued it with the hot shmoo).
if it's not Sony or Samsung it's combustible.
"What letter is a little drop of jizz?"
Holy smokes that got me good
"In the Who Flung Dung Brand...."
Speaking of degloving.... One of my brothers mates, on the eve of his first wedding anniversary, was out with so of the boys getting rowdy on the town. They decided they wanted in at a local establishment, but didn’t want to pay the extortionate cover charge. So, as young men do, went round the back and jumped over the fence. As he went over said boundary device, his wedding ring got caught on top, and as he landed on the ground another punter called out “hey mate you dropped something”. When he picked whatever it was up, it was his entire finger with ring still wrapped around.
Father in law lost his finger due to a ring also.
As an automotive tech , I do not wear mine , seen to many guys short out on battery terminals and severe burn instantly.
Ave: "I'll get a writing credit out of this one of these days"
Also Ave:
0:52
Father Brown LMAOOO
Sounds like he's having a stroke
The cheapo ones always have lower discharge rate. Makita cells more than likely have 20amp+ rated discharge cells where the cheapo will have 10amp. Not a big deal with a radio or a light but power tools will stall out under load.
Hey there AvE. I just wanted to say thank you. I’ve watched your videos for a while and I have learned lots from you. I started to take apart some of my tools and co workers tools and managed to fix them or make them better. With your videos I’ve saved well over $1000 Canadian pesos. Thank you for the knowledge! Keep on keepin on
Long time listener, fist time caller.
Saying your wedding band is a reminder of needing to be safe is so true. Thank you for saying out loud. Having a family comes first. The kids and I miss Chickade in the shop. Every time she is with you I would hear a few extra chuckles from my little ones. Thank you for the help inspiring my kids to be out in the shop with me.
I’ve got that exact same set of fucky fastener removal bits. Once found a delta screw on a helmet cam and had to grind a Robertson driver into a triangle to remove them. There’s nothing built by man that this man can’t take apart and break. And the fastener fairy always drops off some spares during reassembly when you're not looking.
Nah, just weld a 10mm nut on the top...
And then find the 10mm spanner...
Oh...
@@juststeve5542 I just bought 3 x 10mm and 3 x 13mm spanners to complete my sets. Got three of those sets each got an additional 10mm and 13mm when purchased.
So I'm surrounded by tens and thirteens. Few I've lost are coming back on me from time to time.
The fastener fairy doesn't visit as often when I remember to set up a camera to video my disassembly/reassembly. I think he is camera shy.
@@hamjudo That's what you think. Try doing a car that takes years to put back together. Film or not, you get a 20 pound box of extras.
Which bits are those? I've been looking for a set like that.
You need a silicone wedding band. I got one after I turned my titanium one into an arc welder with a mower starter solenoid!!!!!! Nearly pissed myself.
I'll keep that in mind if I jump that bridge lol. Can diamonds be set in it? I need some "bling" for that kind of commitment 🤣🤣🤣
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It's no joke, and no shame in nearly pissing yourself. I've full-on soaked my socks due to electrimicity. Still wear a cunsten targlide band to this day, but very careful in doing so.
@@GoTouchGrass Conformal coating and silastic.
Awww BatteryMooch love that guy taught me a ton. Especially how not to get a summer smile from a mech mod.
So true! He is a saint to mech modders! Especially when he said that material didn't make a difference, finally I could have a mech that doesn't make my hands smell like dirty pennies!
@@MonsterBuddy10 as long as your connectors are good you're laughing. Only thing copper sucks for is taste IMHO.
@@MonsterBuddy10 I'm a commercial welder/plumber there's days I put up 100s of feet of copper all the cleaning of pipe and fittings plus flux I know all about smell and green hands even using gloves and scrubbing hands multiple times when I get home. That God forsaken smell is tough to get rid of from your skin.
Thaks for another BOLTR upload on this wabsite.
That killed me. "I twought I twaw a puddycat!"
A drill pump would be an interesting capacity test, running at different speeds n stuff
I've found with the cheapos when they do decide to go it's nearly always while they're in the battery charger,
the toxic goo that comes out not only leaves a mess but has you questioning if you can trust the charger even with good batteries ever again.
the quality batteries eventually fade but die quietly - with safety in their own circuits they knows not to keep trying to charge,
the cheapos will one day [soon] suddenly develop severe incontinence and not having proper cut-off (temp, over-current) circuitry keep on sucking juice out of the charger even after the smoke happens. (luckily I've never seen flames yet, but man must have been close - could feel the heat radiating off them.) Time to fetch the long tongs and a thick wall container for the coffin. (even then a few layers of bags and attach a written warning so some idjit doesn't try to recycle it.)
I love this channel SO much, especially for all the new vocabulary LOL :-D
I got some similars, the ones with the LED electron meter. So fur have outlasted longer than the OEM Makita which drip roasted a cell within a year. Ain't complainin'.
I lost it with "filthy wood elf" and "tree carcass fondler". Your lingo gets me everytime. I pick it up and end up sounding like a lunatic with my crew.
Love the verbage, makes me chuckle everytime. Great video as always.
Someone came back from a vacation hahaha awesome stuff as always
Been waiting for this one! I almost bought some Chinesium Makita batteries last night
"What letter is a little drop of jizz" I broke out laughing do hard I started to cry!!! My wife is looking at me like I'm a weirdo.
Please make more of these on knockoffs this video was awesome!!
This whole time I thought you were telling us to focus
Cyrus lol
I've taken a _lot_ of those makita batts apart over the last decade (14V version). Those cheapo ones are actually a bit crapper than all the non-makita ones I've looked at - mostly because they've not bothered with the cell bracing. In our tests (we use them for caving so the packs get a lots of physical abuse) the copy packs perform just as well as the genuine ones in terms of longevity - both cells and physical/waterproofing. All the copy batts have actually used pretty good cells, in the same class as the Makita ones, and have very good measured capacity, even the 4Ah and 5Ah ones. But I didn't buy the cheapest and nastiest ones I could find - I tried to get half-decent, which is always a bit of a game of course.
The main problem with all of these batts is the stupid protocol where Makita write to the flash of the battery to set it in 'never charge again' mode if there are three attempts in a row to charge with a low cell. Invariably the packs are fine, and we've had some last for more than 6 years after Makita's internal software declared them scrap. Millions of perfectly good packs must be being binned.
One day I should write all this up.
2:49 the most wholesome thing I've ever heard AvE say. Damn proud.
The 2.1Ah batteries will usually provide more current than the 3Ah cell. The 3Ah cells are perfect for lower draw devices.
My tungsten wedding band once saved my finger while working on a quarry screen deck. It took the impact from the 1500lb counterweight and fractured and pinched the shite out of me, but I still had a finger when I went home that day. FYI though, the replacement for the broken band hangs on a nail above my desk. I'm a machinist these days, and I'm pretty fond of all my finger skin. ✌
About the ring, accidents happen and i could happen to anyone. Love your videos though. Been watching for a while now. Gonna become a patron.
as a millwright this channel is just simply great
Found his videos by accident. But best accident ever. Can't stop laughing at his explanations. Amazing lol
Bienvenido de vuelta, tío Bumblefuck.
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As usual AvE gives us home gamers great information about cheaper made batteries. My biggest concern is the safety aspect and I look forward to further testing from AvE regarding that.
It would be really interesting to see the actual preformance of them, maybe even if there is a way you can "tourture" test them for longevity and see how they do!!! Thanks for all of your vijeos!
"Heyyyyy cabron" i almost felt like if my mom was talking to me with all her love 💘!!!i love your channel!!!
How does he get anything done with his bench so clean? It’s impossible to reach anything if it’s put away
I bought a Milwaukee knock off battery just to have as a spare back up one. It's been holding up pretty good. I use it in a grease gun so it's not usually get abused to bad. The biggest problem I've had is the screw that hold the case together had the plastic mounts start to break. I wrapped it in some electrical tape and it's still going fine.
As you say, i all depend on how often they are pressed into service. If you're only drilling a couple of holes a week (fnar, fnar), they'll be fine. If you're obliged to go for more than the full two minutes then not so much.
I got some cheap batteries when I started working on my first site. Helped get me a set of tools and I'm just slowly phasing them out with real ones. The plus is a git lots of cells for my vape when they go pop
I've fixed a few batteries thanks to your videos, the problem with the DeWalt ones is they break in the same spot on the case and you can't buy the good cases so I have a bunch of DeWalt batteries without a case I'll probably just end up using the cells for something else
Could you get someone to 3D print new cases?
@@COBARHORSE1 yes probably and you can buy cheap ones too but they're not as good as the OEM ones
The long and well veined and slight curve to the left of it is…”😂😂😂
Grtz from El Belgium
Keep it up 🤘🏻👍🏻👊🏻
Hey Uncle Bumble, just curious about your thoughts on tattoo'd on rings to keep under the metal one. I think its a decent compromise between keeping the MRS. happy and keeping my fingers on my hand. Mama gave 'em to me after all, so I'm trying to take care of them
I heard a lot of guys get a silicone one to wear at work. They're stretchy so if they get caught in something they'll just snap right off instead of degloving your fingie.
Greatest channel on CZcams.
How come there's comments from 4 days ago when the description says it got uploaded this morning???
Could you do a review on crappy tire tools, specifically the 1/2 in drive maximum impact gun or if you have already tell me where to find it?
Thanks Uncle for the review. I’ve been trusting the genuine Makita batterias since I think 1992 with my first drill. I did try some of the Chinesium knockoffs for my 14.4 drills when the real ones got hard to find and I can’t say anything bad about them after about 5 years they still chooch.
I've been using a couple of these cheap 5.0 ah dewalt replicas for the past 3 years (carpenter) and the're still doing fine. Less than half the price so definitely worth it
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Ambiguous floating marital aid makes an appearance at 5:19
Mooch has undoubtedly saved lives with his work. He posts when he finds fakes and holds the makers feet to the fire.
I quit drinking year ago and now my ring will fall off my finger if I shake it just right. Lost 35 lbs. Thinking about trying to find them.
I tried cutting out as much sugar in my diet and only eating food with one ingredient (meat, egg, carrot) with in moderation of course. I m 55 and now feel like I m 20 again.
They’re probably down at KFC
Spot-Welding is the term you're looking for...
And also Potted.
The dialogue never fails to crack me up.
RoHS stands for 'Restriction of Hazardous Substances', it's how they outlawed things like lead-based solder and lead paint
I'm glad that you don't take sponsorship, or I'd look at this video as product placement. Thank you for being an island of authenticity. (Long may the women in your life keep you that way.)
Nothing beats a battery surmounted in prefamulated amulite. No way you’ll ever experience any side fumbling or deplaneration. If only they had thought to include hydrocoptic marzel vanes in the design too.
I have a whole set of silicone wedding bands just for safety at work. Don't need more than one mind you, but they came in a set.
First off, hilarious. Second, informative. Third, holy shit, I almost bought those TODAY!
Great review! I am going to buy a couple Chinesium wunders for my One+ wundertools.
Great video AVE
For a home gamer looking to upgrade from Ryobi but too cheap for Milwaukee, what do you guys recommend? I'm leaning towards Makita but also considering DeWalt.
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Love the vids.
The first safety class I had in Army electronics school was: “Remove your watches, rings, and dangly things”(i.e dog tags). Yes. Everything is an acronym or it rhymes in the Army.
I have a few cheap-o batteries for my Milwaukee M12 stuff, they work great on the Bluetooth speakers and crap I don't really need to do my job. I won't use them in an actual tool though. Plus they will only charge in the M12 only charger, not the M12/M18 charger. they do server a purpose, just not a very crucial one. Thanks for the video
Hey I'm a painter and just wondering your thoughts on getting a smaller Graco 390 to run on DC battery power, like 2 or three drill batteries in series, just enough run time to paint a front door and clean... Love to hear your thoughts on this
I would like to see a BOLTR of one of the electric ice augers like the strikemaster 40v.
Loving seeing some more Makita stuff dissected. The fake Makita battery game is so hot, I can't tell the good fakes from the OEM. The packaging is so good these days. I have 4 x 5ah of the one OEM you dissected and arguable the 2 x 5ah ones I suspect are fakes run harder in my DUC353 chainsaw. MORE PLEASE
Great video, thanks. FYI, the CE symbol means the product meets the requirements of the applicable EEC directives, it does NOT mean it was manufactured in China.
"what letter is a little drop o' jizz" . i spat my tea rofl
I heard the harbor freight Hercules batteries ar supposed to work on the dewalt. Did you ever cover that?
I got roped into these a while back. After about 3 months I found out why so much for little. You need 4 of the damn things to add up to the real deal.
For a drill or work light the Nakita/DeWilt batteries are alright, but for the rotary hammer or sawzall that you're giving a hot supper to the factory batteries usually put out more pixies before getting crusty.
Hi AvE! those are recycled cells.When you zoomed in on the battery tab there are previous weld holes.
Might have just took the apprentice two tries to get it right
@@frankreilly7858 True Sir, but for that price and where they came from....other than component count...it's the only other way to keep the cost down.
This was needed, cheers ears.
Love a good “Focus you fark!” Thanks for bringing it back :)
I use a couple of cheapos with the dewalt 18v. Don't last as long using them. Got 2 for half as much as 1 dewalt battery.
I use these on a daily basis working on trucks and cars. They hold up well
Can't wait for the capacity test!
Impressive increase in innuendos. You where going after it like a young man that just found out what his dingus was really for lol.
But will the charger recognize them? I have a 4 of those that need to be charged via a bench power supply since the charger won't.
I dunno about you guys but I have four Makita packs and one knockoff and I always feel like I’m cheating on the good lady when I use the nasty one. Sure, she gets the job done (so far) but for an alleged 4Ah pack it doesn’t feel like it has any more chooch than the 2Ah Makita. Lot lighter than the equivalent OEM pack too, and for me that’s always the giveaway. Them pixies are heavy.
The welder for the batteries is called a spot welder :)
Would have thought after five years abs case less likely to have chipped or cracked than polycarbonate even if a bit more scuffed ?
Could you do a tear down video on demolition jackhammers ? btw thanks for all your video.
"Ehhhhhh Cabrón"
10/10 intro, subscribed
I bought knock off Milwaukee m12 batteries just to salvage the black plastic bottom with the clips
Because Milwaukee clips snap after a few months
The Chinese ones don't break
The cells are junk but their plastic is better quality than genuine
interested in vintage us military AN/PRM-10 oscillator test set?
I got one in decent condition in need of new home
I had a V18 Milwaukee knock off from ebay back in the day. Had to mill the rails to get it to fit on the drill without a hammer. Didn't burn the shop down.