What You Need to Know About the ACCUAIR Air Suspension System for a Jeep Gladiator and Wrangler
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- čas přidán 21. 01. 2023
- Being that the ACCUAIR air suspension system for a Jeep JT Gladiator, JL Wrangler and even JK Wrangler is new, there have been a lot of questions regarding it. And, in this video, Cindy and I hope to answer a few of them and highlight other aspects of the kit that we think you might be interested in as well. Some of what we cover includes, what all comes with the kit, how does it all work, ride quality across the spectrum, air bag durability and we even talk about additional upgrades we would recommend. Last but not least, you'll get to see a full view of this Jeep Gladiator being raised up and lowered by the air suspension system and in real time.
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I just wanted to reach out and thank you for reaching out to accu air for me on 2021 jl. They got in touch with me and took care of everything. They truly went above and beyond to get my air rides working correctly. After getting my jeep back, and driving around 2-3 hundred miles, i got to say that i am truly impressed and have zero complaints. The ride quality is awesome the more that i drive it. Looking forward to doing some over landing soon.
Wow, that's awesome to hear and glad that we could be of help to you!
Excellent video guys, thank you! Watching that raise and lower in real-time was super impressive! I could get used to that flexibility in height! Wow. 👍
Awesome! Glad we could show that to you and yes, the flexibility this suspension system offers is something I'm finding that I miss with my other Jeeps LOL
I really appreciate your insight on this! I am actually in the middle of doing the install of this kit on my JTR - I ordered it from Accuair back in September and just got it between Christmas and New Years. I got this mainly with a view to managing weight better between daily driving (commute) and while overlanding/off-roading (not typically rock crawling) with my family of four and a RTT. While there have been some hiccups, Accuair has been incredibly responsive and I will say that there are some considerations if you are installing the kit on a Rubicon - the rear passenger bed corner slider will need to be removed to install the complressor (I am working on a custom bracket here to all ow for reinstall of slider). Life has gotten in the middle of completing my install (will finish in 2 weeks) but can't wait to get it on the road and check it out myself! Thank you for another excellent video!
Awesome! Good luck on getting it installed and I hope you find that you enjoy the kit :)
Is there any modification needed for the electronic sway bar disconnects to keep working as intended?
Drive shafts was the first question that came to my mind when i heard 5” of lift, thanks. That thing goes up and down fast, wow!
Yes, as mentioned, you can kind of get by with the rear but the front will tear itself apart in 4WD. I would definitely recommend 1350s on both ends with this kit.
now you are ready to cruise East L.A.
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@@wayalife 👍👍eddy, the suspension set up is very similar what you find in large bus and truck air suspension.👍
thank you for your continued professional and very entertaining content creation over the year with both video/ audio quality and type of presenting the content. much appreciate your channel and wish you all the best. Bless you.
Thank you, we're truly humbled that you would say as much and happy to hear you enjoy our videos.
Looks like an excellent system for those of us with roof top tents or towing trailers. Thank you for the video
Honestly, that's who I think this suspension system is really made for.
Great info. Thanks for the bonus footage with your shop assistant Ripley
LOL - glad you enjoyed the video and seeing Ripley :)
Wow oh s amazing how fast goes from each setting. Now we have to see it in a real off road action. 👍
Hope to show that to you soon.
That’s an awesome looking system! Thanks for the video!
Glad you found the video to be informative and more are coming soon :)
Cool!
Can't wait for the next video.
More to come!
Great video Eddie! Appreciate you showing the full system. Looking forward to a video of this set up out rock crawling. Curious as to how much flex you’ll get when compared to a traditional coilover set up.
A rock crawling video is coming but really, there's nothing about it that compares to coilovers. In fact, I would not recommend this kit if rock crawling is what you want it for.
Had some air shocks with the ole Range Rover I had. Those were nice... My next victim is a F350 Dually... I think I am going to get these on there!
Gotta love the adjustability of air suspension. Great video.
Glad you enjoyed seeing this :)
Thanks to your videos and answering all my questions I finally pulled the trigger on the kit, absolutely love it, doesn’t bottom out as much as the stock fox on my rubicon…. Only pet peeve is that the rear bounces a bit when you hit the whoops a bit faster… actuarial definitely picked the right guy for this review…
To be fair, we were hitting the whoops a LOT harder than most people would ever attempt to. AND, I would argue that ALL traditional coil and shock suspension systems wouldn't do much better. Nothing short of coilovers and triple bypass shocks could do any better. Or at least, from my personal experience.
Nice. Looking forward to the next videos.
Glad you enjoyed it! We definitely have more in the works 😎
Awesome video as always, wish they gave you a JLU also. I'd love to see actual use on these.
That would be cool!
Another awesome video Eddie! As always I appreciate your insight and have to extend my thanks for helping me narrow down products lol. How's the steering feel across the different modes?
Glad to hear you enjoyed the videos and find them to be informative. Steering on this Jeep feels great to me.
Great video that addresses a lot of important concerns. Can't way to see the follow up.
Glad you enjoyed it and hope to get more videos up soon.
This makes sense for a lot of builds
Clearly, it's not for everyone but I agree, there are a lot of folks who could benefit from this.
Yet another excellent video. At this point I've come to expect nothing less from you. I think my question would be, how does it perform offroad under articulation? Also, I'm sure it's no match to the EVO Gladiator in terms of attacking the desert at speed but how do the single stage shocks perform overall?
We've filmed and will be releasing a video on how this Jeep performs on the rocks soon. I think you can decide for yourself how it performs under articulation. And no, it's no coilover system by any stretch but the kit wasn't designed to be that. I personally would say that the air pistons work just as well as a good set of coils and the shocks paired with them offer a nice ride - one that I like and feel is better than stock.
Thanks!
We really do appreciate it, thank you!
Great informative video!
Glad to hear our video was informative for you 😎
@@wayalife My AccuAir install starts today! I am so excited 😊!
@@jamesbumpas6411 Awesome! I think you're gonna love it.
Thanks for the videos on the Accuair system. After watching all your videos (and others), I decided that this system fits my needs. I have a stock '21 JLU Ruby. I am forced to park in a low clearance garage. My wife is on the shorter side and needs steps to get in the stock height. I priced a lift, on-board air and power drop steps. It seems to me that this will cover all these needs in one shot. In addition to being able to duck down to get in the garage. The price was always a little too high to swallow. With the 30% off from Blackfriday it brought the price down to $4,900. Lower then the lift, on-board air and power steps. The kit has arrived and I will be installing during my Christmas break. Wish me luck and if anyone has any tips/tricks i would like to hear.
Glad to hear our videos were helpful to you and have fun with the install!
So nice!
Glad you like it!
Cool system. It looks like you got some decent snow from the last storm
It's been a hell of a winter. More snow than we've seen in a very long time and it's been stupid cold too. Typically, the snows we get melt by noon but this year, it's been hanging around since the New Year and growing.
That would be awesome with some portal axles talk about ground clearance
That is a great lift kit
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
That air suspension setup is pretty slick! #JTRSPARTACUS
Great video! Have a question about articulation, when articulating all the way do the pressures change in the system then re-adjust as it goes back, and will you show it articulating? Mayby with a compare it to another gladiator with spring lift?
The air pistons are essentially springs and I don't believe the pressure in them changes. Yes, I will show how this Jeep articulates in an upcoming video. Unfortunately, I do not have another Gladiator with standard coils to compare it with. Sorry.
I have two questions: #1 Is it possible to raise/lower a corner independently? For example, to level off for camping purpose? #2 On rough dirt roads, is the ride quality better/worse than well tuned coil overs? Thank you for the great content!
#1 YES, this is something we will show in a future video. #2 This kit is designed to replace standard coils and I would say that it offers a ride that is better than stock. However, if driving hard and fast across the desert is your thing, coilovers is what you should be looking at.
I was going to do a long arm kit eventually... now I have to find out if this rides better or that. For now, my 2.5 inch lift and 35s are just fine.
The only reason to install a long arm kit is to correct suspension geometry after installing a really tall coils. The correction or, flattening them out back to being closer to stock will help improve your ride on pavement or when driving hard and fast across the desert. In other words, if really tall coils is not something you are wanting, there is no need for long arms. With that said, ride quality is 100% subjective and the only one who can tell you if one is better than the next is you after riding in both.
Hi Eddie, another great video - and just watched it a second time. I have a 2016 JKU sport and did a bunch of work on it (Rubicon 3.5 in lift, and all the related suspension upgrades) and have loved it on and off road. I live in the middle of a big city and have to drive to the dirt - but I only have a 2 mile commute to work - so it's also an everyday driver for me. So my question (and I would say you kinda answered it, but I wanted to be sure) - would this system smooth out city driving, over/through things like stupid large potholes, and those insane steel construction plates?! The last few years of jolts and bumps have me thinking about either adding some sort of improved suspension, or not driving the Jeep daily (and that option makes me sad...) Thanks in advance! ScubaJim!
What I would say that I don't think it'd be worth it to spend $7k on this suspension system just to smooth out your ride in the conditions you have stated. I would instead focus on things like the load range on your tires (C is a lot more comfortable than D or E), the amount of psi you run in them and the springs you're running. Addressing them one at a time will cost a lot less if not be free and they will go a long way to helping things out.
Pairing with the falcon 3.5 eadapt shocks would be unbelievable with both fine tuning option.
If you say so, it must be true 👍
Looks like a great system, my question is in regard to it's use doing extreme rock crawling. I have a JKU with a 5.5 inch lift, that I drive on the street and do extreme rock crawling with as well. Obviously this would be perfect for access getting in and out of the jeep and driving on the street, but how does it do on the extreme stuff, like the Hammers, can I pump it up and get it to hold my jeep at "max" lift for the best break over clearance on those big obstacles? Then lower it a little for the best articulation overall? How will it hold up to that kind of abuse? Thanks' for the great video Eddie!
Honestly, this is NOT something I personally would recommend for "extreme rock crawling". You would get way more flex out of a good coilover system.
Great video's Eddie! I apologize if someone has already asked/answered this, but do you know if the AccuAir system will fit on a Diesel JT? I couldn't find an answer on their site or in the comments so I thought I would ask. Thanks.
It is not available as a direct bolt on kit but I have seen people make it work.
Pretty trick system!!
Glad to hear you like what you see. Certainly, we do :)
Great video, will there be a long arm kit for this system?
I don't think so and after racking up 4k miles on it, I can't say that it's necessary.
Follow up question please... what type of bushing is Accuair using the the control arms? Can't tell if its a zero bind rubber like a Terflex IR or Synergy Mfg Maintenance Free Dual Durometer?
All but the adjustable end are clevite bonded rubber bushings just like factory. And just like factory, they are maintenance free, will not squeak and should last the life of the vehicle. The adjustable end is a spherical joint and it will need to be maintained just like a johnny joint.
Is there going to be a playlist just for this system? I’m interested to know if it’s worth the investment over buying a Rubicon or Mojave and just upgrading the wheels and gears
To be clear, this is just a suspension system. A Rubicon comes with a 4:1 transfer case, lockers front and rear and an electronic sway bar disconnect among other things. None of this comes with the ACCUAIR system.
This may be a dumb question, but can you put the front at max height and still drop the rear to the bumpstop to make loading/unloading a motorcycle more convenient?
I'm just bummed the system isn't available for the diesel trucks.
Actually, yes you can. Also, they just don't make a direct bolt on kit for the diesel. There are lots of people who've made it work anyway.
this seems pretty interesting. Coming from having built two different 4x4s that came from the factory with air sus I have 2 questions: 1) how do the axles articulate with those airbags and does going to 3 reduce articulation? B) when an axle is articulating rapidly and a bag goes from fully extended to fully compressed is there anything to stop the bag from literally folding in half? the top and base of the bags being bolted as opposed to being held in by the limitation of the shock alone would go a long way on this.
We have a video on it articulating coming soon and you can decide for yourself how well or not it does. Setting 3 will offer a firmer ride but so far as I could tell, it did not affect articulation but I didn't prefer it regardless. The air pistons are bolted top and bottom and they do not fold in half.
👍👍 I want to see it rock crawl.
LOL - we do have a video on that coming soon.
I like the idea, do you have lockers on your sport gladiator
Yes, this Gladiator has been regeared with 4.88s and had ARB lockers installed at the same time.
Im really surprised to see you with this kit !! I do see the allure but honest cant justify the cost especially when you can't put a awesome high end complete lift kit from EVO or something for less and For the Kinda money they want it should come with a silent engine driven air compressor , better adjustable shocks & at least the front driveshaft just my opinion... Thanks for another great informative video !!!!
To be clear, this is NOT my Jeep. It belongs to ACCUAIR and they allowed me to test it out for the better part of a year for the purposes of testing and review.
I just purchased the kit for my JT. Do you have any specific recommendations on the new driveshafts I need? Like custom vs. purchased online??
I personally would recommend JE Reel for aftermarket drive shafts or have a local shop build one for you.
Articulation and load or towing leveling are my questions
Articulation and load are videos that we will be releasing soon. Towing will be coming after winter thaws out a bit. :)
Could you show us the location where the air tank/compressor is mounted? Do you still retain the spare tire? Thanks
I show the location of the air compressor here czcams.com/video/EuHdSR_7nqA/video.html. This is located under the passenger side rear corner of the truck. I also show the location of the air tank and it located in between the exhaust and drive shaft czcams.com/video/EuHdSR_7nqA/video.html
Want!!!
Thanks for the informative content! How tall are you? LOL looks like the roof of the jeep is almost your height when bottomed out. I'm now looking into this system to fix the clearance issue when entering my garage with the RTT. Are there any issues installing this on a diesel JL?
I am 5'-7". Also, there is no direct bolt on kit for the diesel but I do know there are people who made it work.
@@wayalife I’ve read on a forum that they’re coming out with a bolt on kit for the diesel next Month!
That's great
Fingers were hovering over the buy button when they had the sale on them but was patiently waiting for you to release more videos… still waiting to see you take it through some whoops /higher speed runs offroad to see how it handles… thinking of going for 37s, regear to 5:13 stronger front driveshaft and axles then a few other things down the line…
How much is the kit?
Videos on what you're hoping to see are coming very soon. That said, this kit rides and feels like it has a good traditional coil and shock setup. If you want to go fast across the desert, coilovers are what you should really be looking at.
@@00ninja00$11000 in Ontario Canada $2500 to install-then driveshaft up grade o don't for get bigger tires$2500
@@lisalacelle2394 Did you pull the trigger on the system?
Does it level the rear when you load the bed or hook up a trailer? What is the load capacity? Obviously you will do some off road with it so we can see articulation and flex!!😊
Yes, it will automatically level and we have a video on this coming soon. ACCUAIR states that load capacity is whatever Jeep states but for testing purposes, I can tell you that they far exceeded it and without issues. An articulation/flex video is coming soon.
Ok, I’m intrigued. We just traded one of our JKs in for a JTR a few days ago and am shopping for a lift. But a common concern is how will this impact towing capacity. We have the max tow package and I’d like to keep the same capacity. How does this kit impact that? Does the suspension do automatic compensation for added load (bed full of gear or gravel) or is it all manual?
It's all automatic and if anything, it HELPS towing and load capacity. We will be showing some of this in a future video.
Hey! I’m thinking about moving up to Nevada, just curious is rust a big deal during the winter?
Rust is not an issue.
wow 👍👍👍
Glad you liked what you just saw :)
Do you have to manually lower the system every time or is there an auto feature for when you're parked?
Yes, you have to manually lower it but if you do that after you park and get out, it will still be lowered when you get back to your Jeep.
Eddie is the ECU reading and therefore set by corner sensors/potentiometers or simply pressure in each air piston?
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The computer is reading corner specific sensors attached to the control arms. I do believe it checks air pressure as well but the determination of height is based on the sensors.
I finally installed this product.
I want to know how to install the hardware first after installation.
Because the front looks lower than the maximum height
I updated the software, but the remote doesn't work. The application doesn't work either.
Is there a solution?
I would recommend you contact ACCUAIR.
I wanna install AccuAir management with thank . How is this system or I should for air lift management?
What about water fording, swampy mud and such, causing issues with the compressor?
You mean like this czcams.com/video/_QLbNxf1gCI/video.html
What is the shock stroke length with this kit
The 100,000 mile warranty is a major selling point.
I think so. It tells me they have total confidence in their system.
How does it effect towing? Does it improve it or make it worse or no effect at all?
Can this be put on a diesel?
Should have no affect at all for towing. As of now, there is no provision for a bolt on application for a diesel due to the location of the fuel and def tank.
How do you think this is going to do with the faster stuff? Or is this now a dedicated overland rig?
For sure, the ACCUAIR system isn't trying to be coilovers and bypass shocks nor is trying to compete with them. However, I would say that this thing is still pretty fast and more so than my stock 392. We have a video on this coming soon.
Is there any way to set your own preset heights or can you only use the computer supplied ones?
Not sure why you'd need something other than what's pre-programmed but no, I don't think you can set something other than them.
I have an Adams 1310 Extreme Duty Front Driveshaft would that be sufficient?
Who makes the Control Arms for this Kit?
Thank You
The factory front drive shaft is a 1330. As in, it's got a bigger and strong joint than a 1310. I personally would not recommend it with 37's or bigger.
Thanks for all the great information on this system. I’m pretty interested but trying to determine compatibility with the axles and tires that I have. I’m currently running Fusion Kingpin 60 in the front and a14 bold rear axle, 72” wide with 40’s. I understand that I have to replace all my suspension components with the kit components but want to make sure that there won’t be any issues with the aftermarket axles. The stated lift on the Accuair site is 4”. Any idea if this is 4” for a Rubicon? Or Sport?
The lift on a Gladiator is based on a Sport. So long as you're running standard coils and factory control arms, I see no reason why you couldn't make this work.
Thank you for the reply! Right, I guess that makes sense. I’m assuming by standard you are meaning designed for the stock vehicle? I am running the RPM ultimate aluminum control arms and RK 4.5 inch springs. Unfortunately it looks like I would lose 2” of lift. RK says the 4.5 is over Rubicon height so the air bags would only lift 2.5 over stock for a Rubicon if I am looking at that correctly.
If you're really running 4.5" of actual lift on a Rubicon, I would highly recommend you invest in long arms. They will correct your suspension geometry and really help improve your ON PAVEMENT ride.
Have they improved on the manifold? Previous versions, if you spring a leak in one bag all the bags will air out. AirLift's system has check valves for each corner so you dont run the risk of losing air on the other bags should one spring a leak. This happened on my wife's car and it was a royal pain.
Yes, they have. Each piston now is controlled by an individual solenoid. If by chance one piston developed a leak, the other 3 would be isolated from it.
@@wayalife that's great news
I'm guessing that a drawback for airbags would be any extended chafing or rubbing. Full flex conditions???
You can guess that if you want but from what ACCUAIR tells me, that would not be an issue and as I state in the video, they will guarantee their air pistons for 100k miles.
how about the steering wheel centering when yuo get low or high suspension?
Your adjustable front track bar is set for the default height. Driving on setting 1, the change in height isn't enough to really make a difference in axle shift and so your steering wheel won't be off enough to even notice. Certainly, your Jeep computer won't see it. If riding on the bump stops or at setting 3, the highest you can go, you can only drive 25 mph or less and again, it's slow enough that your Jeep computer will not see it as being a problem.
Is this a new Jeep ?( to you ) Good video thanks
It's on loan from ACCUAIR. They asked us to test out and review their suspension system with the only catch being, we shared our experiences with people like you - good or bad.
Great video! Will the suspension auto level itself (in setting 2 ride height) when a constant load is present in the bed? i.e. like an AluCab Camper or rack with RTT? Having an airbag setup that takes care of constantly changing loads when packing for a long overlanding trip would be awesome. One more follow-up, the buttons that let you "fine tune" your ride height, do these fine tunings "stay" in place over 25mph or do they act like the other settings that revert back to the pre-programmed #2 setting on the remote? Thanks!
Funny you should ask, we have a video that shows what you're wanting to know and we hope to have it posted soon. :)
@@wayalife ha...well then, i'm on the edge of my seat :) thanks!
I don’t see it anywhere, but is it offered for a JK with an existing 6-1/2” BDS lift?
@MrUtubeobia ACCUAIR is waiting on their FMVSS 126 compliant handling certification before releasing it for the JK. That should be next month. However, you would not be able to use it with your existing 6-1/2" BDS lift.
@@wayalife Do you know why it would not be usable with my lift? It can already go the needed height, and has a different front drive shaft (not sure what it is, as bought JK with modifications already done.)
Is the default ride height setting adjustable? So instead of it defaulting to 4.5", you could have it default to 2.5" for example?
All you need to do is press setting #1 and leave it there. It will stay at #1 even if you turn your engine off and only go to #2 if you press it. #3 and down on the bump stops are the only positions that automatically go back to #2 IF you drive 25 mph or more.
@@wayalife that’s perfect thanks mate
Can you add long arms to this setup but for a JKU?
No. You need to use their control arms for the system to work.
What aftermarket axles do you suggest? Adams or Revolution Gear? I talked to Mike during Overland Expo East this weekend and they are coming out with a version for the gladiator EcoDiesel in 6 weeks. So I'm probably gonna take the plunge and get that. Would you take those airbags on the Rubicon?
How big of a tire are you hoping to run? If 40's or bigger, what you really need are 1-ton replacements and not just shafts. If 38's or under, is anything wrong with your current shafts? If not, I would replace them only as needed. That said, I prefer Revolution.
Sorry i meant the drive shafts...
For drive shafts, I personally prefer JE Reel but again, I do like Revolution as well.
Can the presets be changed?
Can the system be set to drop down on bump stops in park?
So far as I know, no.
What’s the biggest tire you can run with this kit at ride height?
The JT kit is designed to run 37's at the default ride height of 4.5" of lift. The JL is designed to run 35's at its default right height of 3.5". That said and just like any lift, there are always things you can do to go bigger such as, trim your fenders or install different ones.
I am wondering how reliable those rubber air suspension system is??
Reliable enough that they'll warranty them for 100k miles.
Does this kit work with all JT trims ie Mojave, Rubicon, etc?
Not as a direct bolt on but yes, with some minor trimming of the front bump stops on a Mojave and the removal of the rear corner guards on a Rubicon.
Can you upgrade the shocks to remote reservoir?
So long as the shocks you install have the same extended and collapsed length, there should be no reason why you couldn't run whatever shocks you want.
Are there any additional concerns with this being installed on an EcoDiesel?
Unfortunately, this kit will not bolt up to an EcoDiesel as the fuel tank is in the way. I do believe they are working on something though and hope to have a kit available in the future.
Wait 😂 did i miss a video some how ? When did you guys get a second Gladiator ?
LOL - I'm guessing you missed this one czcams.com/video/TWyj50BLL1M/video.html
Interesting, is this available in bc Canada
So far as I know, it should be available internationally.
Can you raise or lower each wheel independently while rock crawling to keep each tire on the ground?
I don't really see why you would need it but yes, you could.
@@wayalife Maybe hung up on a rock and stuck?
I agree with Eddie. No need while rock crawling. But this would be great for overlanding when parked and need it to level out your rtt to sleep on uneven ground.
And I don’t know why anyone who wants to do hardcore rock crawling would get a kit like this, obviously if ur setting up your gladiator for crawl, you’d get coilovers.
What @00ninja00 said 👍
I'd like to see you drop a max payload and adjust it to various heights and see how it tows and mileage. I wish they had more than 3 settihngs. The amount of memory it would take to do that is super small. I'll say it has intrigued me, but I don't know if I'd drop my $$ on it just yet. I would also like to see it handle an overland load with rack and all the goodies. Will it balance with a load? Or will it squat.
Well, we do have a video coming that highlights a heavy payload but finding enough weight to do a "max" amount is a bit difficult for us. Towing a heavy load is something we hope to get to as well but we're totally snowed in with a hard winter right now. In any case, what I can tell you is that the auto leveling system works great.
@@wayalife Def interested in the auto level and def intrigued. A car hauler trailer and throw a JK on it would be maximum payload capacity, maybe even over depending on which trailer you use. That'd be a good test. Keep the vids coming on it.
LOL - sorry, I can't say that I'm willing to spend money on something I don't need just to make a video. However, I can tell you that I will have answers to what you're wanting to know in the video we're making in regards to load.
@@wayalife if I lived closer you could borrow mine, looking forward to it thank you!
Is there an option available without the shocks?
To the best of my knowledge, no. But, I have to say, the JRi's that come with it are pretty nice.
How does the system looks in a Gladiator Rubicon 2023, which comes with auto sway bars disconnects, and skid plates already installed?
I'm a little confused as to why it would look any different.
@@wayalife well, maybe I used the work "look" but I did not mean aesthetically. I meant it like: how will it work? and where will the compressor be? I understand that the Gladiator Rubicon, with factory skid plates, will not have space for the compressor underneath.
Currently, there is not a direct bolt on kit for a Rubicon but it is my understanding that it should be available in a few weeks. I do not know where the compressor is located on it. That said, I do know people have made it work by removing the rear corner guards or locating the compressor to another location.
@@wayalife Thank you for your reply. I am ready to buy the system but I have a Gladiator Rubicon 23, and the local shops I have contacted are all very fuzzy in their knowledge of this kit. Nobody can really tell me the changes and consequences for Rubicon, and the details of any changes. They are just quick to the invoice part. It is kind of scary that I knew more about it than the installers I was seeking.
Can you please provide a video update when the Rubicon update is ready? That would be amazing!
@@jaminoes_ Unfortunately, I won't have a Rubicon Gladiator that I can install a kit on but I do have a good friend who does and he is getting one of the first production ones. I'll see if I can get anything on it.
Does this happen to work with portal axles?
The kit is made to be a direct bolt on to factory axles. In other words, if you can make portals work on a JT, you should be able to make this work too.
Do they use the same bags on all 4 corners? Could you buy a spare?
No, the fronts are different than the rears and ACCUAIR is so confident in their air pistons, they offer a 100k warranty on them.
Will effect payload or towing on max tow?
Affect payload or towing? If anything, this suspension HELPS make it better.
Does it still flex like it should ?
I take it you haven't watched this video czcams.com/video/GKZ-uwINK2k/video.html
Do they make this system for a JK ?
Because if they do I am very interested in it
YES! ACCUAIR is just waiting for their FMVSS126 handling certification and that should happen by February. Once they've got it, they will have the JK kit available for sale.
@@wayalife
Excellent news thank you
I want to see a Gladiator with this AccuAir system, portals, and 42" tires. I'd have to remortgage the house... So maybe. 😂
LOL - can't say that'd be anything close to what I'd want to be running but good luck to you✌️
How’s the off-road articulation?
I personally don't see this kit as something you'd want for 'rock crawling' but, we do have a video on just that coming soon. If you aren't already a subscriber, please do and so you'll know when it comes out :)
Can I put a kit like this on a Nissan juke?
I suppose anything is possible if you're willing to make custom modifications.
Hey Eddie, actually just ordered this kit for my jl. I know they claim 2.5 to 3 inches of lift, but want to to know how true that is. I’m currently running a 3 inch rk spring setup that gets me about. 2.5 to 2.75 inches of lift on my rubicon. Wondering if this kit will sit the same or a bit higher. Do you when any measurements as to the height of the jt in the 2 position, or the distance from top of tire to the fender?
Thanks for your help
I'm surprised to hear that your coils come up short. Just about every lift coil I have ever tested comes up higher than what is advertised. What I can tell you is that ACCUAIR states their JL kit will clear 35" tires on a Sport or Sahara with factory fenders. To me, this means it'll easily clear 37's on a Rubicon. I'll see what I can do about getting measurements but it won't be the same on a JL.
@@wayalife I actually started with the AEV springs, to stiff. Then went to 2.5 inch rk and it was just too short for me…sat more like 2 inches… so then I went 3.5 rk and it was like a 2.75-3 inch lift. I wouldn’t mind the air set up sitting the same, but don’t want to loose any lift. I think it sits perfect now (but want a inch or two more for off-road, and 2 or 3 inches less for my wife and kids to get in. It’s a lot of money to loose clearance (and desired height for daily driving) just hope it’s a true 2.5 to 3. Also wish you could tweak the setting two air pressure to achieve an extra .5 -1 inch of lift. Any info you may have or can find out would be great. I know the measurements on the gladiator wouldn’t be the same on the rear but figured front would be similar. Right now I’m running 37 inch BFG’s, which run small… And the distance from ground to the fender is about 43.5 inches. And I have about 8 inches from tire to fender.
I just gotta ask, how are you coming up with all these height differences? Are you working off of some kind of base number that you took when you first got your Jeep? Something fixed and absolute like bump stop cup lip to base of coil perch or axle pad or are you just working off of your opinion of what you think you're seeing and based on the coils you were sold and how tall they were 'supposed' to be?
What I can tell you is that for daily driving, you can set the suspension to #1 and that will be 2" less than the default 4.5" of lift. It will stay at this setting even if you turn off your engine, start it up or what have you. For off road, setting #2 is what I would recommend as is give you the clearance that you'd need but without compromise to ride quality. Setting #3 will raise you an inch to 5.5" of lift and that's nice to help give you a more approach, breakover and departure angle but the ride is a lot firmer and I would not recommend leaving it there. If you haven't seen it already, this video shows some of this czcams.com/video/GKZ-uwINK2k/video.html
@@wayalife I’ve been working off the same method since day one… I’ve taken a level and put it under the fender, and then dropped a tape from the top of that level to the ground floor below in level garage between the 3.5 inch springs, and the 37inch bfgs. I’ve gained roughly 1.5 inches from the tire size increase and 2.75 inches on the springs… with that being said I had test fit my 37s on the factory suspension and had a base number with 37s also. I’m very hopeful that I will see the 3 inches advertised. And that it’s not the numbers like other companies show which is all based off Sahara and rubicon’s get and inch less. I think I’m also a little worried since accuair now had the heights for 1 and 2 set and not manually editable. I think the lift I want, could easily be achieved with some minor adjustments. Last, I’ve been told but accuair that the drive shaft on the wranglers is perfectly fine at both 1/2/3 and in the rare cases it’s at max height, would be fine. Hope that stands true.
What’s your opinion on 37s on factory JT axles?
I run them daily. And my rubicon 4.10 gears, they work fine, don’t even feel like I need a regear.
@Escape Plan Overland I have run 37's and wouldn't hesitate to run them again on my personal JT or JT. As you can see in this video, the JT is running them now as well.
@@wayalife thanks for the reply. We are looking to add a JT to the family soon. I’d love to run 37s on our JL Sahara. But unsure of that with the Dana 30 and 35 axles. Have you had any experience with those axles?
@@gearbudget You can run anything you want on any axle but how you use your Jeep will determine how well they'll hold up. With 37" tires, you really want to be running 5.13 gears but in an M186 or Dana 30, the pinion will be very small and I have seen them break because of it. 4.88 is the highest I would go and I personally would leave the front differential open. As in, do NOT install a locker. So long as you don't play too hard or bomb across the desert, the front axle should hold up fine. The rear M200 should be fine too.
Never really did cover concerns about durability when flexing/tucking and/or 3 wheeling it for the rock crawlers
LOL - I'm pretty sure I did state that there were "more questions than I could answer in this video" and that "I would be getting to them in future videos - some of which will be in videos of their own". As in, we have more videos coming that will show how this Jeep performs off road and even in the rocks. That said, it baffles me to no end why anyone would want a kit like this just to go rock crawling.
@wayalife I know I know I'm just impatient sorry 😞
LOL - it's coming :)
I would only get this kit for my overlander, but if I’m planning to set up my jt for rock crawling, I’d just go full coilovers. This kit is made for certain applications and I think rock crawling isn’t it. I’m sure it can do some crawling but it’s not gonna be the best for that application. With that said, I’m one of the people that may get this, cuss my jt is my daily and this would be very useful on my jt.
What if I already have a lift? May I just up grade the bags?
You would need more than just the air pistons. You would need the computer system, air tank, solenoid and control arms with the sensors.
@Wayalife but, I would be able to keep my Rock Crawler Pro X control arms and shocks?
You could keep the shocks for sure but not the control arms or at least, not without modifying them to work with the sensors.