5 common beginner mistakes | WING FOIL
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- In this video, we share the 5 most common mistakes we all do when we start wing foiling, and give you tips to help you overcome those mistakes! Wing foiling is NOT easy but it will come with time and effort. Kelly had no prior experience in any water sports and she is crushing it! Today she is here to tell you that YOU can do it as well. Keep at it, be persistent, and we can't wait to see you on the water wing foiling!
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Content:
0:00 Intro
0:51 Mistake #1 Wrong gear
2:11 Mistake #2 Not pumping
3:44 Mistake #3 Bent over
4:56 Mistake #4 Pull too much on back hand
6:24 Mistake #5 Going down wind
8:31 Bonus Too much up wind
10:22 Tip from Kelly
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Thanks for the tips and lessons I’m 72 and my wife is 70 and we’re not stopping till we’re foiling!
Thats the attitude! Love this, thank you for making our day!
Are you already foiling?
@@pete3036 not yet haven’t been going
Bonus tips from a total beginner:
1. Enough steady wind, 15knots+. I spent my first two sessions absolutely destroying my legs going from kneeling to standing with no support from the wing. Imagine spending three hours doing squats at the gym. Pain. And then once standing, it's incredibly hard to balance when the wing is giving you nothing. Effort to reward ratio - very, very low.
2. Wear some protection. I got a gash in my heel my first session that had me out of the water for a week. It's totally freaking me out watching Kelly fall right next to the foil with bare legs and feet.
3. Ignore all those articles that say wingfoiling is easy. It's absolutely not. Enjoy being outside, enjoy being in the water and enjoy the workout, and let the foiling come when it comes.
Thank you for you info! You rock!
"...you don't know if you'll wake up tomorrow..." Jeez that escalated quickly XD
Thanks for all these awesome lessons! I live in Hood River, Or on the Columbia Gorge..windsport Mecca! I used to windsurf but got tired of so much gear and rigging🤦🏻♀️ The wing/foil is such a great new, low maintenance sport! There’s literally 10 of us girls learning now! So your channel helps a ton! Ha! I’ve done every mistake..but getting there..I’m starting on too small of a foil, so trying a bigger one tomorrow..can’t wait to get over to Hawaii to try it too! 👊🏼🤩
Make that 11!! Totally hooked!😎
Well, thanks to good souls like yourself I know I put together the right kit. Floaty big board, 2400 foil, 5.5 wing - Go Noob, go! I'll have my work cut out for me on my inland lake, but I did my homework. Thanks Professor Damien!
PS: I am putting a SUP Winder on the board you see in my picture, and my progression will be three steps: Beach wing, SUP wing and THEN wing foil.
Great. Thanks for your encouragement. Persistence 💪🏻
Anytime! Our pleasure....
Thank you Damian and Kelly!
Thank you!
Great Damien, you made me going kickstart... Great work...
Thanks Damien, your advice is very useful!
Thank you!
I enjoy the energy and fun you have during explaining the topics
Thank you glad we could help!
Love these videos and channel, thanks so much for making them!
Thank you!
Dude, I like that you said live a good life and be kind. That was my favorite tip. You are a good person
Thank you we appreciate you!
I just found your channel but I have to tell you that you’re doing a really good job.
They’re fun to watch and very inspirational. Makes me want to go to Jupiter Florida to learn to wing foil.
Thank you Gary! Thats our goal.... To help and share some love.....
am with you
@Terry Willie Yewwww. glad it worked!
Thank you for mentioning walk if shame I thought I was the only one.. sooo mad!!!! Now I know it's not just me
Tx so much for this vidéo. All this end part is so beneficent ! Be safe everyone 🥰
Amen thank you!
Tks for share all tips. Wing is not easy, but when you understand every thing, should be. Take your time to learn and have fun. @Damien topics for your next videos:
- how to setup the right position your mast into to the board?
- how be faster into downwind (for riders experienced). I have been using harness (wing duotone Echo) and the downwind is wonderful faster.
Ahhhhhhhhh. We have your first one scheduled coming up soon! We think alike friend... Thank you!
Damien and Kelly. You have both inspired me to appreciate the little things in life. Thank you so much!
These messages make it all worth while! Thank you
Great advice, much appreciated from France!
Thank you Damien 👍
No thank you! We appreciate you!
Next week I'm going to Florida. I hope I can put into practice all that you have taught. And I hope I don't get to Mexico
Fantastic Damo great to learn the common errors ❤️💢🙏
Thank you brother....
Pretty good one. Dipping the wing tip is a tricky problem with bigger wings.
Sure is! Goal is to make the learning a little easier on someone out there. Sure hope it helps....
You’re the Best Damien ! Merci beaucoup! Best from Switzerland
Thank you! Your so kind. It's all Gwen making the magic happen!
Thank you Andy!
Lovely people and a great video for my wingfoiling journey (just starting).
Thank you 😎😀
Thank you Chris for the kind words! Enjoy the ride.....
Thanks guys👏❤️
I like your videos, maybe it's because of different winging locations but what I have not seen is the upwind superiority of being on your knees, you know to reduce and or eliminate the walk of shame.
In my location if I go on my knees on my weak side instead of standing I can make it back to where Iaunched, especially if the wind is fluky...
You guys probably have perfect wind every session 😍
Thanks James for that info!
Great video, keep them coming
Thank you Andy!
Thank you for this joyful video !
Our pleasure! Thank you!
Thank you for all theese video. I hope it will help for next monthes (it's too cold now). I notice the tip not going too much downwind which is not obvious for a windsurfer as we almost start downwind to take the planning.
If you got ice or snow great way to try the wing and learn it on some skis... :)
Great tips! Thanks!
Thank you!
Damien, 100 percent agree with your living philosophy. Tried my first wind foiling yesterday with 5 knot wind in Hong Kong. Very painful start but it is a very rewarding moment when I managed to taxi a bit with a 8 meter wing. Probably too big for a beginner. Tim
Awesome Tim we appreciate you! Enjoy the learning process.
This is a good sport and it's still in it's infancy but has come a long ways in a short period of time. I knew so long ago this would happen having been a windsurfing instructor and knowing it would eventualy go to foil because it take the rough ride out of it. But it's all technique
Damien, always enjoy watching your videos. They are so infectious in spreading good stoke. Thanks again. I'm also at the stage of Tip 5 and the last extra tip. I call it over foiling upwind. When should you start the correction ? Obviously before loosing all power. I have a hard time knowing when to start the transition from going too far upwind, to starting to get back downwind. Any other tips to prevent this from happening ?
Tim it just takes time and it will all start to fall into place... Its more of a balance issue and you will fine tune it every time you get up. Try to breath and relax your arms when you get up on foil so you are not pulling in to hard, and or are staying to stiff. Hope that helps...
Nice vid, cheers
Thank you!
Very cool, thanks!!
Thank you!
Thanks so much!
Thank you!
keep going bro you're gonna make it big!
Love this! amen......
Go, Kelly!!!💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Yewwwwww
Okeeeeeeey i get it, i will do it!!, the last part is like to be in a church on sunday morning!!!, thank you for the tips, i am saving money to buy the equipment, so for now i watch your videos for free!!!, when i become a wingfoiler i will send you pictures!!, thanks again from Argentina!!
Church on Sunday is priority #1 my brother no stress! We appreciate you!
All we have is our next swallow. Enjoy the moment. Looking forward to foiling this Spring…
Well said!
I never hate winging.iam Windsurfer and wingsurfing is so easy .do it love it.booom
Thank you friend for sharing!
First session Wing fooling today. Wish I'd watched this video first! Mistake #4 kept getting me
We all did it! :)
Thanks!
Thank you wow! So kind of you!
Great!
bravo à Damien et bravo à Gwen pour les images
Amen! Gwen is the man!
interesting video, big like! Greetings from Italy
Thank you!
Thanks from Ceará, Brazil
Thank you!
Thanks for the great video. I am planned to go to Cancun for a few weeks in December and starting Wingfoiling. I will buy my equipment before my trip so I can enjoy this new sport. What sized board, wing and foil should I buy? I am 5 feet 9 inches and weight between 72 and 75KG. When not in Cancun, I will be practicing this sport in the Long Island Sound. Best regards
Pat
At about 165 pounds 75kg. I would ask what the average winds are in Cancun will help on wing size! A 6m Cabrinha Mantis wing would be great for lighter winds. A 100-130L board would be great, A Cabrinha code 5'4 could be great. 1200 or 250 in size foil would be great! A 60-70cm mast or 28 inches. Done - you are ready to learn. Here are some links for some discounts. Order your gear here: adventuresportsusa.com/?ref=DAMO and support us and the CZcams channel!
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My set up:
Wing adventuresportsusa.com/collections/wing-only
Board adventuresportsusa.com/collections/wing-boards/products/01-code?variant=41077485043867
Foil adventuresportsusa.com/collections/foils
Good idea...
thank you! :)
Thank you
I think a massive tip that nobody talks about that you should highlight is keeping the board facing AWAY from the inside of the wing. Basically keep the front of the board facing right at the leading edge of the wing. That way you really don’t even need to pump a lot and you get a lot of stable power. This will help with upwind and getting good power. Also it might help Kelly lmao
Also don’t be afraid to steer by pushing away from the wing to maintain desired board direction
@@beto7565 Thank you friend....
Hi, bravo for your videos, they are excellent.
I just started wingfoil
I bought Duotone foil wing slick.
I am 82kg and 180cm height
I found RRD hydrofoil WH KSH SET 25 with 85cm Must , from a friend in a good price.
I need to know if this fits me not just for now or for a just another summer?
Everything can work just some stuff will make learning a lot easier.... :)
Great video and tips! By the way, what kinda of blue shorts are those? They look so comfy for the beach!
Lululemon men shorts! Thanks for the kind words.
Very good guy
You had me at “spreading love and happiness”
ahhhhhhhhh Love it!
Great tips. Some advice please... I have a double agent foil set up. I’m around 220 pounds. Which wing size should I get? Is the double agent the right board for wing foiling or should I get a bigger volume board and keep the double agent just for kiting?
Shaun, The double agent unfortunately will not work you need a way bigger board. I would recomend a 100 plus liter board.... the 5'4 Macro or even the XFLY 7'6 150L board.....
adventuresportsusa.com/collections/foil-boards/products/00-macro
@@DamienLeroyCZcams Thanks a lot. Ive bought most of my gear from the store in Fort Lauderdale. I'll contact Sergio there. Will keep watching your vids man. Cheers
@@TheAdventureContinues. Thank you friend... Sergio is a rock star! We love him.....
Thx from germany
Thank you!
11:00 gold
Now I’ve been playing the sup game for a couple seasons and racking up about 10miles a session…now I want to play with a wing…Would you recommend just getting a foil or trying it with a sup for a while?
You can try the SUP for sure, but I would go all in and learn the foil.... My thoughts... Its so fun!
Dude I fkin loved that! Nice man! Thnku
Thank you!
0:51 - Mistake #1 - Not getting the right gear
2:11 - Mistake #2 - Not pumping / Not scooping
3:44 - Mistake #3 - Bent over / Not leaning back
4:56 - Mistake #4 - Pull too much on back hand
6:24 - Mistake #5 - Going downwind / Not pressing enough with the back leg
Thank you for sharing...
What would Kelly say the top exercises are to get ready? I’m 50 and not in shape!
Well, I believe she would say first, eating right will be the first step. She is Vegan and it can change your life! Then just one step after another and soon enough you will be flying.....
Once again.... THANK YOU!!! this is awesome!! persistence got it :)
Yewwww buddy!
Looks like Jupiter beach , fl
Sure is!
what would you recommend for beginners, on snow, so just the wing, thanks
I would recommend skis or ice skates at first. The more firm the ground is, the easier it is to move and learn the wing. Powder you will need more power in the wing! As for a wing size, biggest I would go is 6m as the wingtips start catching..... Maybe 5m is a good size to start? The new Cabrinha X3 would be a great wing! I hope this helps.
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What would be your rec for a beginner foil , when wing is 6.5 , board 120l, 70kg and very low to medium winds ? Regards !
This 1500 is a great beginner foil: wingfoilprocenter.com/products/afs-flyer-complete-foil?_pos=1&_psq=Flyer&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Thanks so much Damien!
Btw- how’s that intro music track in your videos called? cool stuff! xD
Leaving your wing on the ground in that position is a bad idea!! But it’s your wing so do whatever you want with it!!
Very true but anchored in works great! :)
I fly RC planes and real planes and I learned how to hydro foil wing surf in one day 5 hours that's it I was riding. All it is about is lift and glide it all works like a airplane and gliders
Impressive buddy! Congrats! SO EPIC....
In the bonus tip you say there’s most power going downwind but then why does Kelly lose power when going downwind - because you don’t hold wing directly in front of you?
To different things Kelly heading down wind is like moving away from the wind and canceling some of its force.
Turning up wind you need to keep sheting in the the wing more and more to keep the power turn up to much and you can't sheet in and you lose power
Hope that helps
You have to tack and jive because you can’t go upwind but why Kelly loses power going downwind is that you need opposing force in a different direction so you can balance on the forces canceling each other out.
Poet, Maybe a misunderstanding..... Elliot said it best. To different things Kelly heading down wind is like moving away from the wind and canceling some of its force. As well as Layer, You have to tack and jive because you can’t go upwind but why Kelly loses power going downwind is that you need opposing force in a different direction so you can balance on the forces canceling each other out. Thanks everyone.....
How do you like it compared to kite surfing?
Hi Damien
I'm a heavy (98kg) but experienced sup-, foil-, kite- and windsurfer that wants to start wing foiling.
I already have ordered a 144 ltr. wing foil board and own a 6m2 wing/sail.
What size foil would you recommend... Mast length and front wing surface area?
Would a Cabrinha hi:rise varial large foil with 65 cm mast, 75 cm fuselage do the job? Or is it too small to start with?
Love to hear from you!
Ron, Happy to try and help! I would recommend the New 1950 Fusion from Cabrinha or a wing over the 2000 in size.. LIFT FOILS would be a 250HA or bigger. The Varial is a great wing but for your size you will want and need more wind to use it. It can work I actually really like it but not your learning wing unless you have wind! Not your light wind set up.... Mast 70cm is a fine size to start with..... I hope this helps...
@@DamienLeroyCZcams Thanks for your recommendation Damien. And keep up the good work with all these instruction movies... Really useful!
@@RonKolijn Thank you Ron....
No. 5 has been my most frequent mistake I am making... 😒😞.. Downwind too much... (Windsurfing and kitesurfing are so much easier!! 🙄..)
You will get it friend! It will come.... We believe in you!
@@DamienLeroyCZcams where are you teaching these days?
@@Tobeon2 Really just on CZcams. :) Just trying to help everyone.
What is the recomended wind speed range for this sport?
10 knots to 40 knots. Could ride in more as well just need a smaller wing!
@@DamienLeroyCZcams That should be about 5 to 20m/s then.
The winds around here are very unstable/choppy/gusty, don't know the English word, makes kite surfing somewhat challenging.
I would suspect this sport to be less... "vulnerable" to unstable conditions?
@@KjetilBalstad I see, It is still doable will just need a puff/gust and you are up then the magic happens on the foil as you are so efficient. A kite would be challenging as it will want to fall out of the sky. A wing you just wait till the wind comes and go again! :)
@@DamienLeroyCZcams Thnx for the quick and useful answers. Appreciated. 👍🤗
@@KjetilBalstad Happy to help!
How is the learning curve for an X windsurfer? Is Kelly an X windsurfer?
You will pick it up easier! Kelly grew up in Idaho zero experience! Its time for you to go for it! Yewwwww
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I believe there is a shop in Boulder. Solstice Sports, Or you can get a discount here: Order your Wingfoil gear at adventuresportsusa.com/?ref=DAMO and support us and the CZcams channel!
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Hi， Thank you for your wonderful explanation， I'm a beginner, weight 70kg, height 180cm, I want to buy Naish S26 HOVER WING FOIL CARBON ULTRA 60l and 2020 JET | SURF COMPLETE
FS-01050 and S26 WING-SURFER
S26FW-22OR 3.6. Is it ok? Please give me some advice if you have time. thanks.
Hi! Thanks for the kind words! A 60L board and 1050 foil is a pretty advanced set up, not recommended for a beginner. Depending on your water sports experience, we would recommend at least 95L board, and a foil around 2000 cm2 especially if you have no prior foiling experience. It will make your progression so much faster than with the set up you mentioned. For the wing, it has to be very windy to be able to use a 3.6m wing. Not sure where you live, but we usually recommend a 5 or 6m to learn. Hope this helps!
@@DamienLeroyCZcams Thank you for your quick reply, it was so useful to me! Thank you very much, if I didn't have your professional advice, I might have made the wrong purchase. I live in Maryland, and I often go to VA beach, outer bank beach ocaen city beach, do you think 4.6 wing is ok? Do you have a good brand or website to recommend? I will follow your suggestion to choose the equipment, thanks again!
You're welcome, glad we can help! We would recommend a 5m at first, then maybe a 6 or 7m later if you want to go in lighter winds, and a 4m if you want to go in stronger winds.
Cabrinha has some great gear, that's what we ride. Check out the links in the description of the video, we have a discount code if you want to use it.
You will love this sport no doubt!
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I recommend a 6'2 mantis wing, Cabrinha wing for light winds 15- 25 mph...... The 4.6 wing is smallish, has to be windy 20 plus if you are a beginner.
So is pumping the mistake, or not pumping?
Not pumping my friend.....
#8 mistake; this will be easy and I won’t really suck because I do other sports.
Litterally me, and I failed misserably.. after 2 sessions I now got a mental reset and am actually eager to learn
Hey dumb question.... Can I fill this thing with helium?
You can but does not really work to have it fly by it self.. :)
Damien in what beach You are😊?
Juno Beach in FL.
Smile even when you fail.
Thank you so much agree!
How would you comment this situation: I'm goofy-footed on skateboards, snowboards and so forth, so naturally on the foil board I would expect to do better when goofy as well but.. I do much better with switch stance (faster speed, going upwind better, getting on the foil better). I pretty much always have to have the walk of shame if going back the direction where I would go with a goofy stance.
Also, how would you compare powering up the wing when it's 6m2 versus 4m2? I have 6m2 and have never powered it enough to get on the foil. Only way I can do it is when the wind is strong enough and the angle of the wing is just right.
Whatever direction you are struggling with, there is always one! Always a bad side, it just takes repetition to get over it. Sad to say these wind sports only work with the proper conditions sometimes with your 4m or 6m. Just because a 6m should work in 10 knots when you're first learning, it may take a lot more wind because your ability is not quite there yet, so it may be 15-18 knots. Don't worry, you''ll get it and I have done my fair share of walk of shames friend!
Number One: Buy a Wing
Number Two: Buy a huge windsurf size board
Number Three: Buy a Foil for that huge Board.
Number Four: Get all that in the water
Number Five: Tell your friends you are trying this new thing that's like wind surfing but isn't like wind surfing but has a wind sail thing that you use to power a board without having a pole attached to the board like a wind surf mast.
Can i island hop with it
100% easy to travel with.
6º COMMON MISTAKE. You dont use protection equipment. Where is the helmet and impact vest??
We recommend it friend for learning yes, in the beginning but as you get better it is everyones choice to use it or not.... Have a great day!
@@DamienLeroyCZcams you are making very good tutorial videos, which are viewed by thousands of people, but I think you should pay more attention to the security aspects.
Have a great day and continues with the good work
@@Adriano_Coutinho Thank you for the note... We will keep that in mind.....
"pumping..."
"kelly just let us in.."
"bent over like this"
Are we still talking about foiling ?
Hi, I’m a water sports avid 30 years ago. Now at 76 years young, do you think I can still do it? If yes, what is the best gear that you can recommend. Thanks
Emil, 100% you can do it! Might take longer and will be challenging but you can do it! There is a lot to this questions. Feel free to join our Patreon and I can go more in depth!
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Good stuff. Bonus tip #7: wear a helmet.
Yep for sure!
this is windsurfing.
Similar but way more fun!
@@DamienLeroyCZcams JAJAJAJAAJAJAJAJAJAAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJ
You start to pump the foil you're gonna have a bad time.
Nightmare!
Man i watched super pros suffer alot trying to wingfoil
Not Easy?......Never mind
the traduction to italian is not good and you speack to much fast for me
Throw the poor dogs stick
:)
Bloody awful presentation. Mistake number 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, ....
Damien.. just shut up! Let Kelly talk! She has more charisma, she is relatable. She can explain better.. Please just let her speak!! Go grab yourself a coffee or rum or something..
You definitely are a great guy, good surfer and all but you have this precious asset beside you and you just don't let her shine. She is soooo much more interesting than you are.. Sorry, but there are enough guys wingfoiling.. your experience is not special. Hers is!
I just got a 5m foil kite for my 40th birthday I’ve never surfed but I’m going to try on my paddle board and see how it goes before I SLASH THE CASH on a board also🤞🏽🫣😂😂😂
Your going to love it!