I'm still questioning why there has to be 2 type of prime radahn sword, like why miyazaki thought it would be good to have 2 identical boss weapon with just a slightly different ash of war would be good, why not just make it into a stance like rellana twin blade?
My honest guess is that it was just less time/work to implement this way, essentially reusing an existing weapon and giving it a new ash than it would have been to alter the move set with brand new animations for a stance. The dlc was already in the oven for so long, I'm guessing they just needed to ship what they had at a certain point. That's pure speculation though.
my guess is that Miyazaki want involved in the decision. more likey some designer or producer trying to a target number of new weapons in the DLC or trying to resolve a disagreement about which ash of war the remembrance weapon should provide. given the emphasis on stance weapons in the DLC, it really should have resolved using that mechanic.
Yes. WHY! L2R1 or L2R2. They have done this before!!!! I was mad pissed when the game launched that Stamp(sweep and uppercut) was broken up into 2 ashes of war. Like wtf
Was so disappointed how weak Rellana’s Twin Blades and Twin Moons spell were after fighting with her was so OP. I was excited there was a Caria Knight build. Absolutely no poise damage and no hyper armor so you get interrupted casting magic slashes. The fire was good. The town moons FP cost is high but does nil damage and didn’t debuff like Ranni’s moons.
I hit hard at 70 int with one swipe of blue from moonveil or twin blades I guard break a shield user and took over half his health in pvp 😂😂😂😂 thats good so they don’t get patched before people cry
I have really tried with the Wing of Astel, but I just don't see what all the hype is about. Don't get me wrong, it's good, but it's not crazy to me outside of the niche case of stance breaking large enemies. Am I using it wrong? Any tips?
@OmnipotentO I'm trying them myself now. They really do have everything. Midrange pokes with the R2 wave attack, the Nebula is insane and the attacks are fast and hit pretty hard. If only faith had something on this level. Id love a fast attacking weapon that summons lightning similar to Nebula or something. But then again Faith has access to all the buffs.
@@DextahPCthey are really good mid range, if the enemy goes super close you gonna get wrecked because the sword itself is low poise damage. The Ashe of war is just godlike if you stay mid range and can spam. Plus if they stay far range your charge attacks is ranged. So yeah if I see pvp use this I just go near and trade hits.
Death's poker combined with the ghostflame explosion aoe sorcery steamrolls the vast majority of the game. Super fun death mage build. Sad they nerfed the poise on the dark moon GS cuz that thing is also ridiculously fun.
@@tragiic333 I dont even agree with the poise damage nerf, as a mage that was the only usefull tool to stagger and stance break enemies aside from rock sling which doesnt deal enough damage in late game. Magic and sorceries are getting shafted hard, bcs for some reason FromSoft doesnt like magic being effective, even in DLC there's essentially nothing for mages, no new int weapons worth picking up (star lined sword scales primarly with deey, what a fucking joke, rellanas twinblades are just trash and rellanas twin moons dont even inflict frostbite, have low effect area and abysmal damage) and all the sorceries are dogshit (fuck finger sorceries, nobody wanted those), only one ash of war which is super situational and doesnt have enough hyper armor and poise even with great katana you're getting staggered out of carian sovereginity,. Fromsoft has the most dogshit balance in a game I have seen. Magic is now basically useless, since even frostbite doesnt scale with int, you're better off power stancing two greatsword or two great katanas with bleed build.
It was A when planning the list but after building it and testing on the DLC we dropped it to see, bear in mind its still literally in the best 15 int weapons in the entire game out of the 100s of weapons but the DLC bosses being so hyper coupled with the poise nerf really hurt it.
The massively over-tuned poise nerf to the Fallingstar Beast Jaw's Gravity Bolt really dropped it down, and it's where it should be in this list. The Ash of the Death Ritual Spear can poise break enemies for a fraction of the FP cost, and WAY faster. (Ex: Against the Golem at the Divine Bridge, it takes 13 consecutive, uninterrupted hits from Gravity Bolt to stagger it on NG+3. It takes literally 3 casts for Spearcall Ritual to stagger it). As a Str+Int Gravity Magic-based Colossal Weapon, it used to be my favourite, because Critical Hits exclusively from a Colossal Weapon can double proc the Crimson/Cereulan talismans to absorb HP/FP… but since it's far more difficult to poise break with now, it's not NEARLY as good as the other options on the list for what you get for the stat investments. Of the top-tier weapons, it doesn't hold a candle something like the Death's Poker or Wing of Astel.
For anyone wanting to try the beast jaw it scales off str/dex more than int. So it is a quality weapon with an int requirement (that does some magic damage)
You guys forgot the top magic weapon is just magic infused Gargoyle’s greatsword with Carian sovereignty. Technically not a magic weapon, but it is the highest form of magic DPS while having some hyper armour.
still not better than the AOW on he actual Poker. like, the explosion itself hits 3 times harder on the OG weapon. and the ground DOT is better as well
Death poker is still the best weapon to use that ash of war lmao, there's literally no other weapon you can put that ash that performs better than death poker, sadly.
Loved the video, cool stuff, but shouldn't the CARIAN SORCERY SWORD, be in this list? it a S scaling in Int Weapon at max upgrade if I'm not wrong, it let you cast Sorceries with the R2
@@evilsmiledn990Even with the buffs, it's worse than not only every single staff but every single thrusting sword too. Sure, it provides convenience, but barely any when you can just use your staff in your offhand
@@I.K.E.L.O.S Increased the Intelligence scaling of the Carian Sorcery Sword and slightly decreased the base damage, is the patch Note for Version 1.12.3 July 4
Why do you "hate" sorcery though? Like you aren't forced to interact with them. Idk hate sounds WAAAY too strong. I think bleed is cheese, but I don't "hate" it
Wing of Astel is how I beat Malenia. It'd use the ash then lead her into the explosion by walking the direction of the nebula. She'd walk into it every time.
They really do. The severe lack of poise makes them just kinda ass. Glad my boi Royal Greatsword is still considered top 15. Extremely reliable CGS and the Carian Filigree makes it really good bang for your FPbux
Wing of astel is my favorite weapon in the game. Curved sword move set is the best move set in the game imo it’s charge attack does as much stance as colossal weapons at close ranged and is a projectile and the skil also does tons of stance damage, damage and comes out fast.
i think i will add something, as you say for C tiers mostly poise is an issue, i dont think it is, as it would be rather broken if the poise wasn't an issue, so there's a trade off for more defensive play for them.
I use it always, I keep getting hit since the animation is slow but it’s so good, I understand why it’s in B tier for that, I have so many points in strength, faith, endurance, and dexterity, do you know a weapon which is good for my build?, even if you have a build that requires two large weapons and a seal
its not even an int weapon. there is no requirement or scaling with int, nor can you infuse it with an int-scaling property because it's a somber weapon. It should be talked about, but not in an int weapon tier list.
Star Lined Sword is slept on. It has one of the higher AR's out of all the katanas, and it's AoW does amazing stagger. Yes, like everything else in the DLC there is no poise protection, but against anything that can be staggered it won't matter because you'll have them stun locked until they're dead.
I'd say Royal Great Swords should be a lot higher as it's one of the best ashes on the game for many reasons. Its quick has hyper armor and you can chain it with Roiling magma for massive dmg plus resetting frostbite.
Same, one of my favorite weapons in the game. Aesthetic is 10/10, AoW is great, frostbite proc is quick and great, AoW works well as a gap closer too. Just an all around great sword. A great greatsword. Also Blaidd is an S tier character, gotta honor his memory by killing as many things as possible with his sword
S-Tier in fun and visuals but C-Tier in the damage and practical use of it against bosses that has high poise. I also didn't like the fact that we didn't get its "Ishin : One Mind" move... The fucking Demi-Human can do it. A creature that is known for its kind, not having high intelligence, and we can't even do that?
Honestly, rellana's swords just needs rotten wing sword talisman to shine. Using the same build I had dark moonlight sword on (70int and 30 30str and dex) I was getting more dps with rellana as I could dish out 7k+ damage by the end of the basic attack string. The downside really comes in the form of stamina usage as I often found myself going all in and then having little stamina to dodge after.
I was under the impression that the Ice Spear AoW scales primarily with Dex, and secondary with Int. That a Keen Clayman will outperformed a magic Clayman with ice spear
Mostly agree. Int is my favorite, switch between WoA, Moonveil, and DMG. However, I might have graded Glintstone Kris a little higher. Never going to be a primary, but always in my R2 slot. Then I hardly ever use a staff.
First time, I discovered Star-lined sword, I couldn't wait to bring my int build character to the dlc. But little did i know..........the disappointment.
I just found something out, and am not sure if you guys have covered it yet or not. I was going around talking to everyone after mkquellas rune broke, and remembered the old lady in the dancing lions area. Talking to her again, she gave me an item called scorpion stew! It's a 1 / 1 item, and stored capacity is also 1, but it's a consumable! It "boosts physical damage negation temporarily and gradually restores hp". I talked to her after she gave it to me, and her voice line sounded like she'd give me more if I used it, but I'm unsure if that'll happen or not. I don't wanna waste the item to test it out, so I'll be talking to her later after I eventually use it for my third run against radahn, instead of the normal physical negation consumable
Give the first stew to Moore and after everything she gives you a better version of the same thing. GOURMET scorpion stew, better believe it haha Edit I think it’s Moore anyway, gotta look that up yourself. Nope, it’s Hornsent, my mistake
Another good combo is Darkmoon with Helphen's Steeple. Dual wielding these do insane damage and frost effect with a few hit. The moveset is good and jump attacks can stagger very easily!
Rellanas twinblades and the starlined sword really need buffs because as it stands now those weapons are quite literally just worse versions of SoNaF and Moonveil
Wait for a new patch then make another list lol. So sorry that Rellana's twinblades are so weak, bad damage and very bad poise damage also would be nice if skill comes a bit faster. Katana is actually not that bad I would put it in B tier. And I so wish that cold damage has better sinergy with builds like bleed or now poison.
You're not really stuck in the animation for Rellana's sword light attack combo - you can stop after every single input. And just like with it and the Star-Lined Sword, and as said in other videos recently - just use Bull-Goat's _Talisman_ for 101 poise and laugh all the way to the bank if long combos and being interrupted ruin your day.
I'm new to Elden Ring, and I just read that if you beat the final Boss, you have the Option to either start New Game Plus or keep exploring the World. So, I was wondering if you want to start a NG+ after chosing not to, do you have to fight the final Boss again? Because, that would work in a similar Way like Scarlet Nexus and Tales of Arise where you can fight the last Boss again after the Credits/Post-Game Content.
Miyazaki: What if we give Radahn weapon for beating the last boss of the dlc? Dev: But sir, we already have Radahns swords in game Miyazaki: Fck it just add 2 more of them
i used the twin swords whole playthrough however i actually had perfect stats for it 70 in 65 faith 68 dex 50 str n it slaaaaaped did more damage for me at plus 10 than dark moon greatsword, moonveil,starlined sword, the only higher AR for me was the fire knight greatsword fire imbued at plus 25 , n plus 10 blsphemous blade there was better dammage ash of wars like mesmers spear , euphorea, starlined sword, but just for most mobs its duel attacks shred n especially the fire golems im in ng+2 i think im like 280 something
Hi @RageGamingVideos I’ve watched some of your videos for Elden Ring when it first came out, very helpful thank you, and some of the videos of 2 of you playing through some of Elden Ring and they were hilarious so thanks for that as well. I’ve realized recently though with ur tier list videos related to patches haven’t made any sense or have contradicted the reasoning for stuff being strong for another one being less strong. With that said I know you guys probably put it as a “tier list” to get more view because of the thumb nail but I REALLY think you guys should just be more honest with it and release them as “patch blah blah blah weapon changes” or game the system SLIGHTLY & put “… weapon buffs & nerfs” to grab people’s attention but to be more clear and less confusing when the weapons on different tiers make little to no sense. Just my 2¢, you don’t “HAVE” to do it but I do think it’d be the right thing to do.
Not playing an Int build so I have to ask, but is Death’s Poker really that good, especially now that you can get the ash of war for it separately? Is the death poker version better or is the sword itself just better than any other weapon you can put it on?
The Ash of War version is trash. Death Poker is great for the base game and destroys mobs like no other, but most DLC bosses are way too mobile and bouncy to stand in the flame. Notice it wasn't used on dlc bosses in this video.
Death poker kinda sucks in the dlc due to how buggy The ground wave is. It tends to go down inside the ground and come out qt a single point off in the distance without making a trail. Its too unreliable on boss fights
DMGS is kinda dogshit now, they also nerfed the damage of the wave beam projectile so it does 30% less damage, I swear FromSoftware has the most dogshit balancing ever. Before patch my beams did close to 3,2k now they do 2,2k damage, not only it has bad moveset, it has dogshit damage too now. Dont bother using it, just get the deaths poker in Caelid.
@@jy1178 the beam does 30% less damage, its basically trash why bother using it now anyway if there are better options like deaths poker, moonveil, uchigatana, star lined sword, nagakiba and great katana, wing of astel etc? Why would you use weapon from the worst weapon class which only saving grace was its ash of war which is now heavilly nerfed to the ground, not only it does significantly less poise it does 30% less damage, even moonveil hits for more with light attack ash ffs -_-
@@Andrei-Rex I wish int/faith builds had more options. At the very wish they should of given us the ability to add that affinity to weapons. It is the only build type excluded from doing that.
MOST REDICULOUS tier list ever lol. Wing of astel S? Death ritual spear A? Wing of astel is useless against 90% of the dlc bosses. Spearcaller ritual breaks poise faster, has higher damage, has faster recovery time. Its just fking better lol… deaths poker is trash unless some idiot stands in your frost puddle for 10 years.
swap moveil and sword of night and flame and I like the list. moonveil is just easier to use which gives it the edge imo, and being easy to use is important versus many bosses with short punish windows.
These are mediocre. You're S rank is my B rank. Honestly, alot of this doesn't work suffieciently in PVP whatsoever. Yes, your playstyle might make a few combatants fall for the sillyness of it but overall MOST players won't be able to pull this off. These builds are purely PVE (fighting the A.I ingame). A real worthwhile magic user is either close range spell combat and backup for trade offs with poise over some fast attacks. Forget chunky weapons. Your def will be lower than an incanatation or strength build anyway. Most pvp combats are katanas, close magic combat and ash of war abusers. S - Rank Build for magic use would be Spells that go off quickly dagger for stab (magic weapon infused) main weapon like a katana (sword of night) is a good option or a simple uchigatana armor - albeichs hat and whatever else Leda's chest armor piece for extra dodging+ attacks a backup of twinblades with BLEED or FREEZE for fast attack (if so get poise to 61+)
You guys are corn on the cob, you JUST made a video placing this weapon on the bottom tier in a tierlist of DLC weapons but it’s the BEST HIGHEST DAMAGE INTELLIGENCE WEAPON?????
I'm still questioning why there has to be 2 type of prime radahn sword, like why miyazaki thought it would be good to have 2 identical boss weapon with just a slightly different ash of war would be good, why not just make it into a stance like rellana twin blade?
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My honest guess is that it was just less time/work to implement this way, essentially reusing an existing weapon and giving it a new ash than it would have been to alter the move set with brand new animations for a stance. The dlc was already in the oven for so long, I'm guessing they just needed to ship what they had at a certain point. That's pure speculation though.
They should have removed one and given is a better throwing blade. 1 just isn't enough for a new weapon category.
my guess is that Miyazaki want involved in the decision. more likey some designer or producer trying to a target number of new weapons in the DLC or trying to resolve a disagreement about which ash of war the remembrance weapon should provide.
given the emphasis on stance weapons in the DLC, it really should have resolved using that mechanic.
Yes. WHY! L2R1 or L2R2. They have done this before!!!! I was mad pissed when the game launched that Stamp(sweep and uppercut) was broken up into 2 ashes of war. Like wtf
Was so disappointed how weak Rellana’s Twin Blades and Twin Moons spell were after fighting with her was so OP. I was excited there was a Caria Knight build. Absolutely no poise damage and no hyper armor so you get interrupted casting magic slashes. The fire was good. The town moons FP cost is high but does nil damage and didn’t debuff like Ranni’s moons.
Just use the carian thrusting shield or moonveil for the carian knight build, it’s what I’m doing
I hit hard at 70 int with one swipe of blue from moonveil or twin blades I guard break a shield user and took over half his health in pvp 😂😂😂😂 thats good so they don’t get patched before people cry
I wanted those swords to be good so bad, because they looked so cool. What a waste of a great design. Same for the spell.
You cant block with the Rellana's twin blades like you can with radahns, the AoW range is shit and the damage is too.
Relanna’s swords and starlight katana need heavily buffed
Seriously. The risk/reward especially in NG+ is just ... I love the weapon so much but it's so weak compared to so many others. Moveset rules though
Wing of Astel is still ridiculous. Love that weapon.
I have really tried with the Wing of Astel, but I just don't see what all the hype is about. Don't get me wrong, it's good, but it's not crazy to me outside of the niche case of stance breaking large enemies. Am I using it wrong? Any tips?
@OmnipotentO I'm trying them myself now. They really do have everything. Midrange pokes with the R2 wave attack, the Nebula is insane and the attacks are fast and hit pretty hard.
If only faith had something on this level. Id love a fast attacking weapon that summons lightning similar to Nebula or something. But then again Faith has access to all the buffs.
@@DextahPCthey are really good mid range, if the enemy goes super close you gonna get wrecked because the sword itself is low poise damage. The Ashe of war is just godlike if you stay mid range and can spam. Plus if they stay far range your charge attacks is ranged. So yeah if I see pvp use this I just go near and trade hits.
@@IngensViator Thanks for the feedback
@@DextahPC It's popular because of its weapon skill. And heavy attack.
Otherwise it's boring.
Death's poker combined with the ghostflame explosion aoe sorcery steamrolls the vast majority of the game. Super fun death mage build. Sad they nerfed the poise on the dark moon GS cuz that thing is also ridiculously fun.
Yes, I’ve been going back and clapping all the optional bosses with the death poker. It’s so good.
they also nerfed the damage of the wave beam projectile, now it does 30% less damage. Its dogshit now.
@@matyasselmek3673 I thought it was doing way less dmg, they need to revert the dmg nerf that was a bit excessive.
@@tragiic333 I dont even agree with the poise damage nerf, as a mage that was the only usefull tool to stagger and stance break enemies aside from rock sling which doesnt deal enough damage in late game. Magic and sorceries are getting shafted hard, bcs for some reason FromSoft doesnt like magic being effective, even in DLC there's essentially nothing for mages, no new int weapons worth picking up (star lined sword scales primarly with deey, what a fucking joke, rellanas twinblades are just trash and rellanas twin moons dont even inflict frostbite, have low effect area and abysmal damage) and all the sorceries are dogshit (fuck finger sorceries, nobody wanted those), only one ash of war which is super situational and doesnt have enough hyper armor and poise even with great katana you're getting staggered out of carian sovereginity,. Fromsoft has the most dogshit balance in a game I have seen. Magic is now basically useless, since even frostbite doesnt scale with int, you're better off power stancing two greatsword or two great katanas with bleed build.
The overtuned poise nerf ruined roleplaying as Rogier, his signature ash of war doesn't do enough damage to justify a lack of poise damage
They did the jaw dirty
It was A when planning the list but after building it and testing on the DLC we dropped it to see, bear in mind its still literally in the best 15 int weapons in the entire game out of the 100s of weapons but the DLC bosses being so hyper coupled with the poise nerf really hurt it.
The massively over-tuned poise nerf to the Fallingstar Beast Jaw's Gravity Bolt really dropped it down, and it's where it should be in this list. The Ash of the Death Ritual Spear can poise break enemies for a fraction of the FP cost, and WAY faster. (Ex: Against the Golem at the Divine Bridge, it takes 13 consecutive, uninterrupted hits from Gravity Bolt to stagger it on NG+3. It takes literally 3 casts for Spearcall Ritual to stagger it).
As a Str+Int Gravity Magic-based Colossal Weapon, it used to be my favourite, because Critical Hits exclusively from a Colossal Weapon can double proc the Crimson/Cereulan talismans to absorb HP/FP… but since it's far more difficult to poise break with now, it's not NEARLY as good as the other options on the list for what you get for the stat investments.
Of the top-tier weapons, it doesn't hold a candle something like the Death's Poker or Wing of Astel.
@@RageGamingVideoswhy were you hyping star lined katana in the video but put it this low
@Fusion237 You're calling 1 of the best 15 int weapons out of the 100s in the game low? That's top 3% level.
For anyone wanting to try the beast jaw it scales off str/dex more than int. So it is a quality weapon with an int requirement (that does some magic damage)
You guys forgot the top magic weapon is just magic infused Gargoyle’s greatsword with Carian sovereignty. Technically not a magic weapon, but it is the highest form of magic DPS while having some hyper armour.
Fyi you can get the ghost flame explosion ash of war. Putting that on a better weapon eliminates the only problem with death's poker.
still not better than the AOW on he actual Poker. like, the explosion itself hits 3 times harder on the OG weapon. and the ground DOT is better as well
Death poker is still the best weapon to use that ash of war lmao, there's literally no other weapon you can put that ash that performs better than death poker, sadly.
Loved the video, cool stuff, but shouldn't the CARIAN SORCERY SWORD, be in this list? it a S scaling in Int Weapon at max upgrade if I'm not wrong, it let you cast Sorceries with the R2
It's kinda doodoo water tho. If you wanna cast spells just swap your weapon to your staff or have your staff in the offhand.
@@I.K.E.L.O.S oh but the fixed it, if im not wrong it got a big buff
@@evilsmiledn990Even with the buffs, it's worse than not only every single staff but every single thrusting sword too. Sure, it provides convenience, but barely any when you can just use your staff in your offhand
@@I.K.E.L.O.S Increased the Intelligence scaling of the Carian Sorcery Sword and slightly decreased the base damage, is the patch Note for Version 1.12.3 July 4
@@robohex6 yea i know but it still should be in the list, don't you agree
Int will always be my favorite stat, I hate sorceries but the weapons are just too good
Why do you "hate" sorcery though? Like you aren't forced to interact with them. Idk hate sounds WAAAY too strong. I think bleed is cheese, but I don't "hate" it
@@jevan1247 he just doesn't like playing with sorcery i dont think it's that deep. I feel the same as him but I enjoy pyro and faith
@@jevan1247 not that deep
@@enzomalagoli5725agreed
@@jevan1247 You think bleed is cheese, while sitting at range spamming sorceries are not, I question your logic.
Fucking Wing of Astel is the perfect weapon. Always has been my favorite and always will be.
Nerd, can you please share your load out?
Not having Helphen's steeple on this list is a crime imo :(
Wing of Astel is how I beat Malenia. It'd use the ash then lead her into the explosion by walking the direction of the nebula. She'd walk into it every time.
For how cool Rellana twin blades look they suck
They really do. The severe lack of poise makes them just kinda ass.
Glad my boi Royal Greatsword is still considered top 15. Extremely reliable CGS and the Carian Filigree makes it really good bang for your FPbux
Yup, they def need a buff. Love using them against regular mobs but will not use for bosses.
It’s too stat heavy reliant to be viable. Definitely S tier in looks though.
When I first got it, I maxed out just to find out it was a shit weapon
@@hindae085 also the severe lack of AoW's range and damage.
Lol, I've literally been using moonveil and Darkmoon since damn near release. Both are insanely good!
Wing of astel is my favorite weapon in the game. Curved sword move set is the best move set in the game imo it’s charge attack does as much stance as colossal weapons at close ranged and is a projectile and the skil also does tons of stance damage, damage and comes out fast.
my first no summon play through was with Wing of Astel - S tier deserved.
Gopack, can you please share your loadout?
i think i will add something, as you say for C tiers mostly poise is an issue, i dont think it is, as it would be rather broken if the poise wasn't an issue, so there's a trade off for more defensive play for them.
Man I’ve had a blast using a faith int dex int build with sword of night and flame with staff of great beyond. Such of a versatile build
Finally someone mentions the zamor curved sword
I use it always, I keep getting hit since the animation is slow but it’s so good, I understand why it’s in B tier for that, I have so many points in strength, faith, endurance, and dexterity, do you know a weapon which is good for my build?, even if you have a build that requires two large weapons and a seal
its not even an int weapon. there is no requirement or scaling with int, nor can you infuse it with an int-scaling property because it's a somber weapon. It should be talked about, but not in an int weapon tier list.
I can’t stay away from my moonveil. I go back to it time and time again.
Star Lined Sword is slept on. It has one of the higher AR's out of all the katanas, and it's AoW does amazing stagger. Yes, like everything else in the DLC there is no poise protection, but against anything that can be staggered it won't matter because you'll have them stun locked until they're dead.
Twin blades for life
I'd say Royal Great Swords should be a lot higher as it's one of the best ashes on the game for many reasons. Its quick has hyper armor and you can chain it with Roiling magma for massive dmg plus resetting frostbite.
Same, one of my favorite weapons in the game. Aesthetic is 10/10, AoW is great, frostbite proc is quick and great, AoW works well as a gap closer too.
Just an all around great sword. A great greatsword. Also Blaidd is an S tier character, gotta honor his memory by killing as many things as possible with his sword
Main problem is getting staggered before the second hit comes out for me.
Star lined sword is S tier in my eyes, so fun to use. Can often only get the first two hits of the Ashe off in boss fights but still great
S tier in fun, c tier in damage
S-Tier in fun and visuals but C-Tier in the damage and practical use of it against bosses that has high poise. I also didn't like the fact that we didn't get its "Ishin : One Mind" move... The fucking Demi-Human can do it. A creature that is known for its kind, not having high intelligence, and we can't even do that?
Zamor Ice Sword may have ice buildup, but it's not an INT weapon, no scaling.
Honestly, rellana's swords just needs rotten wing sword talisman to shine. Using the same build I had dark moonlight sword on (70int and 30 30str and dex) I was getting more dps with rellana as I could dish out 7k+ damage by the end of the basic attack string. The downside really comes in the form of stamina usage as I often found myself going all in and then having little stamina to dodge after.
I was under the impression that the Ice Spear AoW scales primarily with Dex, and secondary with Int. That a Keen Clayman will outperformed a magic Clayman with ice spear
Im pretty sure renallas twin swords light combo requires multiple imputs ?
Mostly agree. Int is my favorite, switch between WoA, Moonveil, and DMG. However, I might have graded Glintstone Kris a little higher. Never going to be a primary, but always in my R2 slot. Then I hardly ever use a staff.
please make a Wing of Astel build!!!!!
Did you know that [Loretta's War Sickle] is, indeed, an intelligence weapon?
Star-lined sword is my new fav katana tho😭 more fun than moonveil, i just wished they added some hyper armor in the first part of the combo
I'm running an INT/DEX build and a cold infused Nagakiba with Impaling Thrust carries like you would not believe.
The cool thing about wing of astel is how easy it is to obtain the weapon.
Yeah, once you've done all the work to unlock the area it's in, its easy.
First time, I discovered Star-lined sword, I couldn't wait to bring my int build character to the dlc.
But little did i know..........the disappointment.
Nothing is better for NPC invaders than the Fallingstar beasts jaw. Spam the AoW and win.
Magic/Cold Infused Great Stars is also great!
Thanks again bro I love these lists
Rennala’s sword is for high level, must reach the soft caps of stats for it to scale better. Sadly, it is not much viable for PvPs.
I hate how goofy the wing of astel looks. It might be insane but it still looks like a boomerang
I just found something out, and am not sure if you guys have covered it yet or not. I was going around talking to everyone after mkquellas rune broke, and remembered the old lady in the dancing lions area. Talking to her again, she gave me an item called scorpion stew! It's a 1 / 1 item, and stored capacity is also 1, but it's a consumable! It "boosts physical damage negation temporarily and gradually restores hp". I talked to her after she gave it to me, and her voice line sounded like she'd give me more if I used it, but I'm unsure if that'll happen or not. I don't wanna waste the item to test it out, so I'll be talking to her later after I eventually use it for my third run against radahn, instead of the normal physical negation consumable
i think you need to give that to the hornsent
She will give you more if you use it. Talk to her again after Messmer for more dialogue.
Give the first stew to Moore and after everything she gives you a better version of the same thing. GOURMET scorpion stew, better believe it haha
Edit I think it’s Moore anyway, gotta look that up yourself. Nope, it’s Hornsent, my mistake
What about the rodas axe and the alabaster CGS?
Another good combo is Darkmoon with Helphen's Steeple. Dual wielding these do insane damage and frost effect with a few hit. The moveset is good and jump attacks can stagger very easily!
Claymans harpoon with ice spear is here but not carian sovereignity on any sword?
Because he's ranking Int weapons, not Int AoW
Rellanas twinblades and the starlined sword really need buffs because as it stands now those weapons are quite literally just worse versions of SoNaF and Moonveil
Wait for a new patch then make another list lol. So sorry that Rellana's twinblades are so weak, bad damage and very bad poise damage also would be nice if skill comes a bit faster. Katana is actually not that bad I would put it in B tier. And I so wish that cold damage has better sinergy with builds like bleed or now poison.
Do you have a build for Death's Poker + Sword of Milos? Thanks.
Need a tier list for quality builds
The kris shouls be A tier. Super cheap comet like damage. Easily improved. Easy carried me with the royal greatsword as" backup". 😅
Try Naginata with ice spear
Bro please charge your glinstone Kris l2 😭
I really wanted new weapons in S, we need to shake up the INT melee meta
Bro you forgot to change the description
Glintstone Kris in C tier? 🤣🤣
Please do a pure INTELLIGENCE build for the DLC
What about Loretta's War Sickle? I thought that would be up there.
You're not really stuck in the animation for Rellana's sword light attack combo - you can stop after every single input. And just like with it and the Star-Lined Sword, and as said in other videos recently - just use Bull-Goat's _Talisman_ for 101 poise and laugh all the way to the bank if long combos and being interrupted ruin your day.
Rellanas twinblades are my highest damaging weapons… i have 80 in str, dex, int and faith
This list is a mess lmao
If there is Fallingstar Beast Jaw in the list, why where is no Ruins Greatsword
Why there is no Helphen's Steeple? It is quite good I believe.
Id say the best int weapon is a magic infused Claymore with Carian Sovereignty
For some reason, Frozen Needle has never left my equipment
I'm new to Elden Ring, and I just read that if you beat the final Boss, you have the Option to either start New Game Plus or keep exploring the World. So, I was wondering if you want to start a NG+ after chosing not to, do you have to fight the final Boss again? Because, that would work in a similar Way like Scarlet Nexus and Tales of Arise where you can fight the last Boss again after the Credits/Post-Game Content.
You can choose to start ng+ anytime in the roundtable hold site of grace.
@@jongbla-yt I see. And that's the only other way to enter NG+ aside killing the Final Boss, right?
@@sekirothegreatshinobi2332 yup. Once you finish the game it will show up in the options when resting at the site of grace in the roundtable.
@@jongbla-yt Nice! Maybe I can do the DLC after finishing the Main-Game since, it's pretty much Endgame Content.
I want to see one for Arcane and Faith
Miyazaki: What if we give Radahn weapon for beating the last boss of the dlc?
Dev: But sir, we already have Radahns swords in game
Miyazaki: Fck it just add 2 more of them
Dang i thought the carian sorcery sword was going to be on this list.
i used the twin swords whole playthrough however i actually had perfect stats for it 70 in 65 faith 68 dex 50 str n it slaaaaaped did more damage for me at plus 10 than dark moon greatsword, moonveil,starlined sword, the only higher AR for me was the fire knight greatsword fire imbued at plus 25 , n plus 10 blsphemous blade there was better dammage ash of wars like mesmers spear , euphorea, starlined sword, but just for most mobs its duel attacks shred n especially the fire golems im in ng+2 i think im like 280 something
Hi @RageGamingVideos I’ve watched some of your videos for Elden Ring when it first came out, very helpful thank you, and some of the videos of 2 of you playing through some of Elden Ring and they were hilarious so thanks for that as well.
I’ve realized recently though with ur tier list videos related to patches haven’t made any sense or have contradicted the reasoning for stuff being strong for another one being less strong. With that said I know you guys probably put it as a “tier list” to get more view because of the thumb nail but I REALLY think you guys should just be more honest with it and release them as “patch blah blah blah weapon changes” or game the system SLIGHTLY & put “… weapon buffs & nerfs” to grab people’s attention but to be more clear and less confusing when the weapons on different tiers make little to no sense.
Just my 2¢, you don’t “HAVE” to do it but I do think it’d be the right thing to do.
i have been waiting for this vid yay
just to be reminded that the dlc doesn't like non spell caster int builds
Rellana twin swords suck so bad. Wish it wasnt so multi stat heavy 😔
Int weapon L2 spam tier list
Didn’t even mention Helphen’s Steeple?! Wow… no love…
I'm surprised the poker is still here after gaining access to the ash on generic stuff
The ash is considerably weaker compared to Death Poker’s version.
Can I see your build with wing of astel?
Damn I still haven't' tried Wing of Astel...
Not playing an Int build so I have to ask, but is Death’s Poker really that good, especially now that you can get the ash of war for it separately? Is the death poker version better or is the sword itself just better than any other weapon you can put it on?
The deaths pokers skill is MUCH stronger than the ash of war version
The death's poker version of the ash of war is just way better.
The Ash of War version is trash. Death Poker is great for the base game and destroys mobs like no other, but most DLC bosses are way too mobile and bouncy to stand in the flame. Notice it wasn't used on dlc bosses in this video.
Faith weapons next, right?
Ahh, people still sleeping on Rostus's Axe i see👀😂 that Ash slaughters everything if you can master the timing lol
Zamor is great yes but it has no int scaling.... This is an int weapon tier list....
I wish you showed the name of the weapon, you sometimes say the name so fast I have no idea what you said the name of it was. But thanks for trying
Wait. So why is the glintstone kris c tier??
Would someone want to drop or trade for the ansbach bow? I messed up the questline
Literally the first CZcamsr that puts wing sword in s tier. Love it. ☺️👌
I basically beat the whole game with the falling beast jaw is definitely better than a C I don't know what your talking about.
Did you play with it post poise damage nerf and beat the dlc with it?
Death poker kinda sucks in the dlc due to how buggy The ground wave is. It tends to go down inside the ground and come out qt a single point off in the distance without making a trail. Its too unreliable on boss fights
Dark moon still shreds
DMGS is kinda dogshit now, they also nerfed the damage of the wave beam projectile so it does 30% less damage, I swear FromSoftware has the most dogshit balancing ever. Before patch my beams did close to 3,2k now they do 2,2k damage, not only it has bad moveset, it has dogshit damage too now. Dont bother using it, just get the deaths poker in Caelid.
If you can't do well with how op the dmgs still is, FromSofts balancing may not be the only thing that's dogshit
@@jy1178 the beam does 30% less damage, its basically trash why bother using it now anyway if there are better options like deaths poker, moonveil, uchigatana, star lined sword, nagakiba and great katana, wing of astel etc? Why would you use weapon from the worst weapon class which only saving grace was its ash of war which is now heavilly nerfed to the ground, not only it does significantly less poise it does 30% less damage, even moonveil hits for more with light attack ash ffs -_-
People talk about int builds are toxic all the people using blood builds in pvp spamming can’t respect it lol sweats even in elden ring
carian sorcery sword?
ever gonna do int/faith build weapons list? or are there not enough weapons to do a tier list of it. lol
S tier - SONAF
D tier - Rellana swords
@@Andrei-Rex I wish int/faith builds had more options. At the very wish they should of given us the ability to add that affinity to weapons. It is the only build type excluded from doing that.
@@LunarValkyria yeah with only one viable weapon
Huffing copium if you think night and flame is better than twin blades
MOST REDICULOUS tier list ever lol. Wing of astel S? Death ritual spear A? Wing of astel is useless against 90% of the dlc bosses.
Spearcaller ritual breaks poise faster, has higher damage, has faster recovery time. Its just fking better lol… deaths poker is trash unless some idiot stands in your frost puddle for 10 years.
swap moveil and sword of night and flame and I like the list. moonveil is just easier to use which gives it the edge imo, and being easy to use is important versus many bosses with short punish windows.
These are mediocre. You're S rank is my B rank. Honestly, alot of this doesn't work suffieciently in PVP whatsoever. Yes, your playstyle might make a few combatants fall for the sillyness of it but overall MOST players won't be able to pull this off. These builds are purely PVE (fighting the A.I ingame). A real worthwhile magic user is either close range spell combat and backup for trade offs with poise over some fast attacks. Forget chunky weapons. Your def will be lower than an incanatation or strength build anyway. Most pvp combats are katanas, close magic combat and ash of war abusers.
S - Rank Build for magic use would be
Spells that go off quickly
dagger for stab (magic weapon infused)
main weapon like a katana (sword of night) is a good option or a simple uchigatana
armor - albeichs hat and whatever else
Leda's chest armor piece for extra dodging+ attacks
a backup of twinblades with BLEED or FREEZE for fast attack (if so get poise to 61+)
Every video has at least 3 adjectives describing whatever it is hes talking about 😂
Why Zamor Sword is in here? Put the Dragonkin shit here so
Wtf is that damage my guy
What was your build for the ice spear ash of war ?
With 80int, my clayman harpoon only do 1k9k dmg
You need 80 in two stats Int and whatever your weapon main stat is
You guys are corn on the cob, you JUST made a video placing this weapon on the bottom tier in a tierlist of DLC weapons but it’s the BEST HIGHEST DAMAGE INTELLIGENCE WEAPON?????
Tfw none of the dlc weapons were in S tier, meaning this comment was posted before watching the video.