Completely agree with the angled screen idea. I use my T6 at a desk in front of my computer monitors, and the angle of the screen is less than ideal from a visibility standpoint. Always have to lean forward over it to see the display.
I really like the P6. I took a P6 on tour with Elements in Asia. Stood up better than any other KB I have ever used. I did however manage to put a small crack in the plastic on the base underneath after dropping it from the stage accidentally while packing it. Further, I went on to play many many more shows after than without a problem. To add to that. If I had one wish for a KB that integrated to my DAW so easy, it would be that Nektar made a fully weighted P88. I would be the first to the buy one if they did. I still own that P6 and use it still after 8 years.. Still going strong. I use it to map Cubase and Reason.. I can’t say enough about the quality of the P6. Great KB!!
Really interesting and informative video - thanks very much. And love the presentation style ! Have looked at every midi keyboard controller and have only just come across Nektar. Seems they don't get the same coverage as other keyboards. I really like what they offer though.
either I'll have three comments in a row here, or... none. they seem to not be posting for some reason. anyway... I'm just trying to thank you, poohbear, for your very generous & extra thorough efforts here. bravo, good sir!!
Just wanted to thank you for doing this comparison. Thanks for all the details shared. I've already owned the LX61 for a couple of years now, but have considered getting something else for better keys. At the same time, I'm going to start focusing on doing different types of automation straight from the MIDI keyboard. Based on your info, I'm going to stick with the LX for now, but I'll likely end up getting the Panorama P6 down the road, unless they release an updated version of it with a better keyboard in which case I'll get that one. Soft synths and sound design/ambience is my go to and I really want to be able to modify as much as I can as quickly as I can... and the handy old mouse just don't cut it. Kudos to you!
Personally as you are not in a rush you should keep an eye out for a cheap 2nd hand P1, combining the P1 with the any keyboard is a great match, the real nice thing is having the P1 pointed at players or effects while you play the instrument from the LX etc (I have done a video on how you can do that, even works with a LX but having 2 devices is quicker and better).
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Within hours of posting I've almost changed my mind and also may include your suggestion. I saw the Arturia Keylab MK2 has aftertouch, and since I already own V-Collection I'm considering getting it. But I'm not sure if the Logic integration is as good as Nektar's, so I might get the P1 and a Keylab.
@@zackersquackers It's such a shame we can't easily try the keyboards, I love the V-collection, mainly the ARP2600 and Modular V. The Keylab and P1 could be a good combination for you. Note there are grab maps for a number of the V collection modules for all of the Nektar range. facebook.com/notes/nektar-users/nektar-mappings-for-reason-users/2328963463806635/?av=343729232948815&eav=AfajBlbeqrAmhV0K4FbsjtF4h1w9r1l7shuIAD-L0d3e-35t7l2OIImwHAhevY1QWOM
Pooh bear! Nice video buddy! I cant believe you were able to keep a keyboard since 1989! Amazing! You've answered most of the questions I had. I prefer the series p6. But I use MPK 261and komplete 61 more than any other controllers I have. Cheers pal! 🍻
I still use my Korg T1 today along with the P1, I have the T6 then the LX stacked above that, my P4 is in storage but as I think I said if I did not have my P1 then my P4 would be out all the time..
Thanks for the review. I'm Very happy with my LX61+ 9:10 Yes!, I don't know why some reviewers keep saying that it's "Cheap finish or plastic" I some times think that those people are used to play in a Bosendorfer or a Fazioli. The finish of the plastic and the knobs buttons is kind of felt and very very well finished. And the DAW integration is amazing (I find the drum pads to be kind of difficult to trigger, but still very good)
@@marmitaa8619 its nice to the touch and smooth on the drum pads when composing like i said Nektar Panorama P6 Is all i need as a complete daw controller and i had it now for 2yrs & its still a beast 💯💯
A BIG THANK YOU for this video. I already bought the LX+ and then seen your vid. Here's me looking for performance tools like Akai apc40 mkII which I will purchase at this present time until I receive my LX+ and I see if I actually need the apc40 due to possible LX+ mapping provided by yourself, and, the advice on the P1, which is now a 'must have'. Anyhow, Nektar Impact 49+ for £99 NEW at Dawson's, bought last night and just checked this morning and it's sold out, looks like I got the last one. Appreciate the work involved with mapping and the time it takes. Pooh bear, your advice is priceless, get some donation thing going, great having you about, even a fiver here and there from folks all adds up. Easy
Amazing review man! Always loved Nektar's integration with Logic and Mainstage. I've loved the look of the P6, but I think because of the QWERTY functions not being available on Mac and that price, I think I'll go for the T6 and maybe that P1 controller. Thank you!
Nm. Found it on their site: "SHORTCUT TO SOFTWARE FUNCTIONS* So QWERTY macro’s…… big deal, right? That’s right, its a VERY big deal. Your software has a ton of features and functions that can be activated using QWERTY shortcut commands. Assigning a command to a button so you don’t have to be near your computer makes life a lot easier. Assigning a string of up to 8 commands takes it to another level. With this powerful feature you could for example enter edit mode, zoom in and select a tool with just one button press. Or create an instrument or effects track and locate a folder containing your presets so you can select them from Panorama, all with one button press and without looking at your computer. *QWERTY macro’s are not available in OS X 10.11 or higher" That's very bizarre. Is there an explanation for this?
Excellent video. Wish I had discovered you sooner, I would have saved hundreds of dollars and saved countless hours of workflow just from the info you provided.
Cool I think im gonna pull the trigger on the T4 to use with Reaper (sounds like the integration is great). I was hesitant because many reviews mention cheap material quality and issues like stuff breaking or stopping to work. I had a LX25 years ago that stopped working randomly only a few months after buying it. Maybe I'll get lucky, or at least hopefully just take really good care of it and cross my fingers there are no issues. You mention the build quality is pretty good, so.
If you have any issues contact Nektar support, they are fantastic, I know of people who had the P6 and yellow keys issues (I think it's a heat thing of who is effected by it over years) and years later (over 5 years) they have replaced keybeds FOC and they have done many other fixes FOC. Please double check how the T series integrates with Reaper, this is a Reason channel and as I make the mappings for the Nektars a lot of the integration talk is about Nektar and Reason (which is 2nd to none).
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Cool yeah, from what I hear Nektar works good with Reaper too. Was about to pick up the T4 then I found a P4 used for around the same price so I grabbed it with a 1 year protection plan so from Guitar Center so hopefully it all works fine. I am very excited to start using it!
@@korpze206 I'm still using my P1 and T6 as a combi, TBH I don't touch the controls on the T6 as the P1 has it all. I've still got my P4, must nearly be about 9 years old now !!!
Hi mate great video. I love your channel, it’s really helped me. I was wondering if could do an in depth video on the Panorama P series units? Including setup, updating and adding the templates for other RE’s/VST’s to the controller. Thanks again and keep up the great work!
Yes and no, first of it is aimed in the middle of the LX and P series, so yes it would be a step back from the P series and a step forward compared to the LX range however they have also improved the keyboard and pads which is a big step forward. A P series with the T series Keybed and Pads would be the best..
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel i agree. i recently bought a P6 from Am* for 380 EUR. The Pads are quite terrible, the keys are just o.k. Unfortunately, there are not much alternatives in that price range so that Nektar pretty much competes with itself. If the T6 had only a better display!
@@rolfranders1866 I love the P1, funny thing was I had it for ages and was just doing mappings for it, use it all the time now with my T6, don't play my P4 anymore. So a P1 with LX+61 would be a good combo however I did pick my P1 up cheap.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel i always try to keep it cheap, as creativity doesn't need to be expensive. What i like with P-series though, is the excellent integration with my DAW (cubase). So until my next #1 Hit, i'll stick with the P6, i guess :)
Hey, is it true that the pads on these keyboards are sometimes unresponsive? Ive been thinking of getting the T6 but Ive seen it everywhere that the pads dont always register when you hit them
Thank you you saying so and you have fun once it arrives, if you are a Reason Users we have 1000's of grab maps setup for the LX range (only works with Reason).
really useful ibfo, just what I needed. I'll be aiming for the P4/6 I reckon. I've seen a lot of talk about the knob/slider coating becoming sticky, have you come across this?
I have not however from people I know and trust it has happened, seems to come down if you live in a hot place, now I have changed mine on my P1, P4 and T6, not because of issue, I just fancied a change and they look cool, so for a small price (
Hey this is a really good review I really appreciate the effort you put into this. I do have one question though, would you choose a Arturia Keylab ESSENTIAL 88 or the Nektar T6, regardless of price more on feel of keys?
I have never used the Arturia Keylab ESSENTIAL 88 so I can not say however if you are a Reason user and you are after control then it has to be Nektar for the integration.
I didn't find any shop with Nektar P to test key action. It seems to be really good keyboard. Newest premium MIDI keyboards Arturia Mk2, NI kompletne kontrol and novation sl mk3 are not good. Novation sl mk3 has cheaper key action then it's old version sl mk2 and less knobs and sliders also needs power supply. Native instruments has very good fatar key bed but just 8 knobs and not much use if you don't use kontakt. Arturia mk2 has ok feature set but worst key action from all these 3.
Fantastic video, thank you! I'm in the process of deciding between the P and T series for Reason (and I hadn't even heard of the P1!). I'd heard that in the last few years the P series integration had become less - does this ring true or do you believe the Nektar series are still as deeply integrated in more recent Reason releases?
The integration has not really changed over the many releases of Reason, the controllers are just as good now as they were back then, HOWEVER what you could say is Nektar have not updated the maps in a very long time, we the community have but there are still newer devices that we have not mapped (it's not hard, just time consuming and we also now have a nice website frontend to help). For controlling instruments\devices I use my P1 the most, I still use my T6 and Impact but my P4 has been moved off to one side (near the start of the video I showed my Korg T1 which I do use a lot).
Thanks for this video. I am deciding which one to buy the T or P series. Sound design and ease of use for soft synth usage is primary for me, so I think ill pay the extra 70 odd quid for the P series, if that screen deepens integration and ease of use then its for me (and my eyes are getting worse with age!). It's a shame about the keyboard being worse, but i'm returning the LX49+ to help pay for it so im sure the P series will be a step up in the key bed. Do you know if there is much or any change in the way Nektarine behaves between the P and the T series? (I'm assuming Nektarine was designed with the T series in mind, so am worried that its clumsier on the P series). It's not just Reason I use BTW, I want to use it with a focus on soft synth interaction. Sorry for the long winded comment, you seem like the man to ask lol. I appreciate any input from you, and these great vids you have done, take care!
The funny thing about Nektarine was when it first came out there was all was the place for the 5th X button (T series only has 4) so I think they had it in mind from the start for the P series, It works on the P series, I don't use Nektarine because I do full mappings. Ref the Keybed on the P series, I don't have any issues with it, there is a thread out there where someone took theirs apart and put in a small piece of cotton near the springs to dampen it. but as I said I'm happy with mine Info about my maps etc for Reason..(There are over 700 full maps and over 2300 grab maps.) facebook.com/notes/nektar-users/nektar-mappings-for-reason-users/2328963463806635 My current setup is still my T6 and P1, I do use my P1 more for controlling rather than the T6.
BRILLIANT video on the Nektar products, I have the P6 and still find it difficult to map to be honest, I'm using Studio One v4.5 now and Logic Pro X Any links to mapping etc would be fab, Thanks Jono Rezzillo
Hi, I only use Reason and write all my own maps, I don't even know what format Studio One or Logic Pro are in. We support about 3000 + maps in Reason, you are more than welcome to them if they are of any use. www.dropbox.com/sh/sberq7vvyfitnzh/AACE-2ovSLhN2_5Cw0lhT4sra?dl=0
The clunk on my P6 keys (which I hear clearly in your vid) is still annoying all these years later. Playabiity however is fine. P6 is a very solid bit of kit (except for all the sticky knobs now covered in cat fur) but for me, it has been overkill as I just don't use the controllers, past the Transport buttons. The screen is useful for giving dB readouts of SSL Faders. Ooh, I just realized what the Function Keys are for! Silly me as I do use them a bit from the QWERTY but never the P6. Have to try that... :-)
I replaced my knobs not because any sticky issue, just wanted something different, my knobs are sliver and the encoders are black and sliver (that are in the style of an old Moog knob). I have not done my faders yet, planning on something bright so they are easy to see.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Can you give your assessment of the noise of these three keys? I myself was only able to test the LX model - its keys were very noisy and had a strong play in the sides when playing. Have you had a similar experience with models T6, P6? Thank you.
@@e0236 If you find the LX noisy then you will find the others even more so. My LX is quiet when compared to the others, if you flick the keys then there is more of a click\clunk sound but no different from any other keyboards (OK my Korg is super quiet but that is a fully weight keyboard), the T and P series are noisier in this regards, with all 3 I don't have any issues with side play.
Enjoyed this very informative thanks, I have a question, care to share your opinion on P4 vs Native Instruments S49 MK3, I'm a cubase user and was thinking of going NI komplete 14..care to share your thoughts?
If you are going to be using Kontakt or Kontrol at lot then the S49 is the way to go, I think you get a good deal on NI software when you buy the Keyboard.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Right so I purchased a P4 the other day!!! ( I know, I know) And Nektar only cover the very basics…I’m using Cubase and would like to know if you or anyone out there would have a mapping? And you are right it goes deep..
Long shot - BUT just getting a 2nd hand P6 and using Cubase 13 (though could roll back to 12 or 11) - do you have any cubase scripts that would function as a full midi remote for the P6?
I'm use Reason, however there is this Nektar group that someone might be able to help however midi is midi so I'm surprised if you need anything extra to use it in Cubase 13 over 12 or 11 (I suppose if there are new devices but I don't think Nektar have been keeping that part up to date, as I said I don't use Cubase so I'm only guessing there and basing that on that there has been no new support in Reason however we have a community that keeps adding remote maps weekly)... facebook.com/groups/915283455174650
Thank you for this, great video, still trying to decide which keyboard is best for live performance as I need to quickly change between different DAWS that have sax, piano and strings so need to assign instruments to different buttons if this is possible?
I only use Reason so I can't comment about other DAW's, is there a reason why you can't run it all in Reason or are you here just due to the video? If you do use Reason I have a video about using it live, I want to redo it as some instruments were not picking up the performance data but I have a workaround for that.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Thank's PoohBear, I have not seen or used Reason before but will look into it, I am a Cubase user and tend to do everything in cubase.
There are a couple of solutions that people follow, the main one being playing all the instruments at the time but making use of muting the ones you don't want to hear, the main issues with that is losing tails and high DSP, now I don't know Cubase however the solution I came up with is turning off the midi to the instruments, this helps with DSP and does not lose any tails to sounds being played, so I don't know if that is something you can do in Cubase. In Reason it makes use of a RE called Midi-CV converter. This video may give you some ideas or pointers. czcams.com/video/0cyvx-HPqSI/video.html Side note: Reason is brilliant DAW, if you are into hardware then you will at home with Reason :)
wow so many of the nektar gear. i know you have done few of the keyboard tutorials and was wondering about the P1. i do not have any space left on my desk for a keyboard but i can make space for the P1, and was wondering how much of the integration does the P1 have on reason 12 and all its racks. mainly was wondering how it will work on 3rd party vst like waves.
The P1 has the same indeepth integration as the P4 and P6, not all the new instruments in R12 are mapped as it's mainly been down to me to do the mappings and R12 has not been that stable and I have moved onto other things now, however there is a new website to help with mappings. remapp.noiseshadow.com/ (note the site seams to be down at the moment so hopefully it will be backup next week)
Hey! Loved your video comparing midi keyboards. If I’m looking for a keyboard that maps to Studio one well, has velocity, weighted keys is a huge want and I’m looking to spend between 300-500 USD, do you have a recommendation? I’ve pretty much decided on getting the Nektar T6 Panorama based off of your video, but was wondering if you had a different suggestion. Thanks!!
Please note the T series is not a weighted keybed, they call it a 2nd generation synth keybed and I personally like the action (it is light but heaver than most synth action keybeds I have played on) however I also have a "Korg T1" (makes it confusing that is has a T in the model number) that has hammer action keybed and that is totally different from the Nektar T series. I still have NOT got my hands on a LX plus 88 that has semi weighted keys so that might be better. Oh wow I just double checked the price of things as it's been a while since I have last checked, the T series are very very well priced, I was going to recommend you looking at maybe pairing a P1 with the LX+ 88 however there is now also the GXP88 but again I have no experience of the keyboard but it's semi weighted. For those who need a keybed to fit their needs (and I totally get it as I use my T6 and LX61 95% of the time and my Korg T1 when I really want to play more of a piano sound) I usually recommend the P1 paired with a keyboard of their choice but again I'm usually talking to people that use Reason as their DAW, nothing comes close to Nektar and the integration into Reason.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Thanks! Yes I understood and remember you mentioned in the video that the T6 panorama was not actually semi weighted but that you liked the feel of it. I appreciate the advice!!
Damn. I wish the t6 had actual synth action as I play really fast and the semi-weighted action is a deal killer... I guess the L series is the only way forward but with less functionality is my only option :-(
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel so you stated in the video the t6 seemed to be more semi-weighted than the p6, so is the p6 more synth action than the p6 despite techncally labled "semiweighted", meaning i could play really fast on the p6 as well?
I hear it works well in Cubase but I have also heard a couple of people have had "user" issues setting it up. There is a group on FB called "Nektar Users" if you have any issues.
Hi! Would you recommend the t6 keyboard for orchestral mockups? How is the quality and feel of the keys? And how is the t6 un comparassion with m audio oxygen pro? Thank you so much.
It hard to recommend as I don't know your standards, I had M-Audio Oxygen MkIII (maybe) a few years ago and the keys on that were nothing to write home about and encoders did end up breaking (as in the pots died). I first got my T series nearly 3 years ago and I still use it more or less everyday. The aftertouch was very sensitive (still is but I have got use to that now) and that could come in handy for doing orchestral stuff as it does give it quite an expressive quirk about it.
Hi, I'm in the process of getting the Nektar Panorama P6 for use with Reason 12. Please tell me all the reasons to get another even more suitable keyboard with Reason 12! Thanks a lot in advance and greetings from Italy🇮🇹🍷☀️
This is probably a language barrier thing however if I was to answer what you asked, then there is not any other keyboard better than the Nektar's integration with Reason, if you are really asking why get the P6, it really comes down to how you think you will use it with Reason, as I just said, the No.1 reason is the DEEP integration.
Is the white one in the middle a standalone keyboard? Does it come with its own sounds. I’m asking because the video wasn’t playing all the through. So i couldn’t get a full review.
Great review sir just one question which of this in your opinion will last longer and has the best key action since i use reaper myself i think nektar is best suited for reaper
As I said in the Video the T series has the best key action however the P series is not that far behind, as for last the longest I can't say, I've had my P series keyboard since 2013 and only the other day did the Pitch bend wheel play up, which I know that Nektar will replace.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Yea the sad thing is i live in Bangladesh and nektar doesn’t ship there + they don’t have any dealership also that's why i am asking about which one will last the longest. I had a m-audio keystation for 3 years and i hoked it up with an i-pad and i did live with that and used the same keyboard at home recording also. So given my conditions and o have to pay like 356% import tax if i get it from india suggest me a keyboard sir which will last a long time. Cause i have my old yamaha psr 413 and its still kicking and doing really ok if only that keyboard had a modulation wheel than i would have been really happy
@@Krantykeys Understand, I have an old Korg T1, I've had it 30 years, still going strong and I use it a lot more now that I have paired it with the Nektar P1 (which I picked up cheap 2nd hand), so if you are looking for integration that may be an option (note the P1 is a controller, no pitch nor mod wheel).
This is a great video, even a couple of years later. You mentioned the secondhand market, if you buy secondhand can you get the required software without having to buy anything extra?
yes you can, you just create an account and enter the serial number, it works out what software and firmware is available for that model, you get even more choices when saying what DAWs you have etc.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Brilliant mate, thank you. Got 2 potions, new t6 or used p6. I know the keyboard and pads are better on the t6 but like the screen and the ability to do zones on the p6. Decisions decisions lol
@@Yosser70 LOL, it's a hard one, you could try and find a 2nd hand P1 and pair that with the T6... I got my P1 purely so I could test my mappings on it (mappings for the P4/6 and P1 are almost the same but there are one or two that are different down the fact the P1 does not have a Mod or blend wheel) however I have it on my desk all the time.. I think another good pairing if you have space would be the LX88 with the P1....
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Oh don't go giving me more options! lol In all seriousness though, I think the P6 is the way to go for me. I'm no keyboardist so the key feel isn't a big deal and i've got seperate pads if needed. Just feel I'd want the extra control and options with the P6.
Ive seen in a few places that the pads on the T6 are sometimes unresponsive, is that true? Id hate to be hitting them and not registering if making beats etc.
I have not had issues with my pads however I know of a couple who did have, Nektar replace the keyboards in question and with one person they returned it as they had a few different issues.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel awesome! thats good to know that they have a good costumer service. Thanks for the in depth review of these nektar products btw there isnt much info on these out there for some reason.
Hi PoohBear first of all thanks for your work and great tutorials they make a difference in the journey of many of us , blessings !! /// I want to ask you if u have idea o how to map Syntronik to bitwig in specific the remote part of sintronik where you can browse select etc. i hope u can help me whit this. am lost
It's been my experience that browser portion of VST's are not remotable, yes there are some that do allow simple next\previous of patches but far and few inbetween. A good starting place is Nektarine, even if it's just for looking to see what is available..
I have not used the Arturia keylab so it's unfair for me to say which one, however I have heard it is nice keyboard, don't know how well it integrates with Reason.
I’m in a right pickle! All my tunes are on a really, really old version of NUENDO (2....yes 2.......) using really old 32 bit plug-ins which I love.....hypersonic, edirol orchestral, ppg wav, pro 52, B4, Absynth old, guitar rig old. Will the P6 be able to control all that? I’ve kind of set my heart on it..... or will I have to go to the painstaking process of rebuilding everything in cubase 10.5? OR do I just get an AKAI FORCE n have enough done with cubase altogether?
I'm a Reason user and don't know much about other DAW's (as they don't meet my needs), the P6 is a midi controller at the end of the day so it should work with any DAW, however it's real power does come down to integrated support for major DAWs, as I said I'm a Reason user and no other midi controller comes close to the P and T series for integration with Reason. So if you are mainly using Nuendo then maybe the P6 is an overkill..
Hello, I was going to buy the T6 but a guy told me about the m-audio oxygen61 and said it has better keys. This is my first kb and don't know how to make this decision. I like Nektar very much and I would really appreciate your opinion on which one is better for you. I can afford the T6 or either P6 if worth it, but now starts to becoming really old and don't know if they still update it. Would you please tell me your opinion? The more vids I watch the more I get confused XD
What DAW do you use? If it's Reason then Nektar for integration is a no brainer. I had an older Oxygen and the encoders started to go after a few years. Just think about what you want out of a keyboard, make a list with key points and make sure the keyboard you get meets your needs.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel thank you very much for your answer. Yeah I saw some videos of people experiencing this kind of problems with Oxygen's encoders. I'm going to use Cubase, some producers say it could be one of the best for working on midi and for producing orchestral music like I would. But this is my first experience so all may change in the future. What I don't understand is: if Nektar made things easier with nektarine, integrations, etc, so why isn't everyone buying it? I saw some vid about nektarine but there's too much technicalities for my zero experience to really understand what they're talking about. I'm really having hard time due to this damn keyboard choice 🤯
@@lucacorona6681 When Nektar released Nektarine I did recommend that they create a storage of user defined Nektarine mappings (an upload location) however they said the main point of Nektarine is so people can have their own tailor made mapping, I think they missed the boat there. The main point of Nektarine is you create a mapping and you can use that one mapping in all DAWs (that support VST's), Nektarine does make sense to use with Reason due to the way mappings work and the support of VST's in Reason means we don't need Nektarine, but that is a side point :) Also note the P series works with Nektarine... From the video a lot comes down to what you want to do with your keyboard, e.g. to use it to do a lot of sound design etc. This is a Nektar facebook group, there a few Cubase users there, I only use Reason, so why not go and pick peoples thoughts to get a good understanding of how good Nektar products are with Cubase etc.. facebook.com/groups/915283455174650
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel I'm sorry my english isn't perfect and I don't understand what you mean here: Nektarine does make sense to use with Reason; but also with Reason you don't need Nektarine because it has VST support? So why does make sense to use Nektarine with Reason? Or maybe you wanted to say "doesn't make sense to use with Reason"? Btw if Nektarine helps you switching between DAWs keeping your maps, if I use only one DAW then Nektarine isn't very useful (?). But if I get tired of Cubase and want to try Reason I have everytthing setted up just like I left. Long story short: I only have to do the work once. Right? Thanks for sharing the group, I'm not very much in love with social networks but for music I'm gonna make an exeption.
@@lucacorona6681 Correct, you only have to do the mapping in Nektarine once and then you can use it in other DAWs. Sorry if my comment about Reason is misleading, the main reason I don't use Nektarine in Reason is I have managed the mappings for years, I have created 100's of full maps and over 3000 grab maps and hence Nektarine does NOT (I missed that all important word, DOH!!) make sense to use..
I just got the Impact LX 61 +, so I hope is good as you described it. When I learn the Reaper and Bitwig programs bit better, I may hook up my big Piano GDX-660 to it. For now, I'm having a lot of trouble just figure out these buttons on LX 61+. Which program would you prefer, Raper or Bitwig? Thanks, Michael.
I only use Reason. Bitwig I have had a little look at due to the grid however Reason on that regards (total free wiring) leaves all the other DAWs behind..
Hello I'm trying to pick the best Midi Keyboard for Bitwig studio I am looking for performance and integration is the T6 or the LX 61+ which should I get
TBH I don't use Bitwig, the T series should be more integrated however I would ask that question on this facebook page here. facebook.com/groups/915283455174650
I’m about to buy one and I’ve just read that the P6 has problems with MacOs Sierra, do the instrument mode and the internal mode work as they should in Sierra? 🤔
I don't own a Mac however the only issue I know about is the P series have what is called function keys, they can't be programed on a Mac, the integration into DAWs works fine, like any Mac OS update double check it's support before upgrading.
@@PB72UK I got the T4 some days ago and I have bugs on macOS High Sierra and Mojave with Reason 10.4. In the Subtractor mapping I have problems with the buttons below the display. They are mapped, but the shown text is not updated properly with Subtractor. In Europa, Thor it works properly. I looked in the Remote Mapping file (Panorama2.remotemap), everything looks ok.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Thanks for responding. I'm sure I'll find something suitable. I just liked the fact that it had those stackable extensions. Just saw this page from your answer: www.quiklok.com/instrument-series/keyboard-stands/
Hello, I have a silly question being a newbie. I have a T4 and I wanted to know if the maps are only related to Reason because I think it may be related to the keyboard, Nektarine and VST. Can you use the maps in reaper?
The maps I talk about are for Reason only however Nektarine is for any program that can run a VST :) Don't forget to download the support files for Reaper from Nektar.
Yes, I use a number of my midi devices to control elements in Windows, just converting the Midi CC# to keystrokes, Midi-ox works really well for that along with Auto Hotkey if I want to do something more complex with it. I mainly use my FCB1010 foot pedal (has 10 pedals built in) for controlling OBS and Reason (like tabing to the back and zooming in on my video's etc)
Thanks for the video, handy timing as I was considering a T6. I was wondering how well they interface with Kontakt in Reason? I mainly want to control software orchestral libraries. Do you need to constantly re-map keys each time you load a library or can you set templates for each library as required? Cheers in advance.
Reason see's Kontakt but not what insturments it has playing inside of it, you could say Reason does not care what is going on inside of Kontakt apart from here is some midi now give me your audio. Nektar is the same however Kontakt has exposed about 500 remotes, the T series is mapped as default to the first 25 parameters, now what those parameters are I can not say as you can load different libraries inside Kontakt. So you might be lucky and it all works as you would expect or you may have to make a small change to the mappings, off course you can make a big change the mappings to cover all the exposed parameters. Example the first 4 knobs are mapped to :- For strings series that would be Expresion, Attack, Release, Brightness. for Brass series that would be Attack, Release, Tightness and Motion. The big dynamic button is mapped to the Mod wheel. For Retro Machines to would be Cutoff, Reso, Sound and Fat. So it looks like the way they have mapped the Symphony series you could be lucky in getting the T4/6 setup the way you want.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Thanks for the insight. Reason has terrible integration of MIDI devices in general, to the point I usually do most of my arranging in Reaper then convert the stems back to Reason when all the MIDI stuff is done. Cheers mate.
These midi controllers really work well with Reason, I have a number of older midi devices that I hook up without issues but yes the Midi support in Reason could be a lot better. I highly recommend using Koshdukai Codec's with older devices as you can use different midi channels etc, I did this video about setting up external midi devices. czcams.com/video/YvODre7sFG0/video.html
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel What do you think about Kontakt mapping in Nektarine? Is there a possibility to safe individual mappings for different Kontakt Instruments and switch these mappings by hand?
Nektar is still the No. 1 deepest integration in Reason and in fact is heads above Arturia and Native Instruments, now where both Arturia and Native Instruments come into their own is with their own software e.g. Analog Lab / Kontakt..
Someone could please give me confirmation I would have quiet an equivalent product to Novation Impulse 61 with Panorama T6 ? (I own an Impulse49, need a 61 controller and have a nice 2nd hand opportunity on a T6).
I did got a LX61+ a couple a week ago. I was HEAVLY reviewing many keyboards, and I got to compare the Novation Launch Key 61 and finally I got the Nektar. There are few features different but the nektar is quite good. I bit more functionality. I can't tell about the Impulse and the T6
They are not recessed, might look that way with the angle of the video, the LX does have a smaller wheels but at the end of the day they are just like any other keyboard I have played\owned.
I don't think this will work well with the Reason Rack, as the the Reason Rack is just a VST however it's configuration can be totally different each time..
Hello sir. I have a LX88+, this was my first keyboard and absolutely love it. Due to space restriction i bought a Oxygen Pro 61 to my regret, the keys are so light i feel scammed by them advertizing semi weighted keys.... Now i looked into the Novation Impulse since i can get that pretty cheap but i got strongly recommended to get either the t6 or p6. Now as you said in this video you feel like the semiweight on the t series is stronger that the p series. How does the t series compare with the LX which i believe has no semiweights? I believe only the 88 has that but i could be wrong. A reply is very much appreciated. I mainly want good feeling "heavy-weighted" controller. Thank you.
I will answer this the best I can, as it is really a personal thing, I have heard people say the keys are too light and too heavy on the T series ?? The LX is really light (excluding the LX88), The T series is light but it does have a nice resistance for me, I have Korg T1 full weighted, I don't play that much now, the Korg T1 is really lovely to play however I can only play for a short time. The action works for me on the T6, as I stated I put it on par with my Roland D70 which is classed as a performance keyboard. As you like the LX88 I would try my hardest to make space for it...
A big reason I did not get the P6 or 4 is that it doesn't make sense to me to put one motorized fader and nine non-motorized faders. I'd rather get a Behringer X-Touch Universal. Also, I haven't found any reviews liking the pads on the P6 or 4, even though there are more. I do want to ask: are the keybed and pads on the T6/4 better than the Impact LX+ series? I have the LX61+ and LX88+ and am just curious if the T6/4 are really any better? I'm not ignoring that you currently prefer the T6 at your workstation. Their webpage makes it hard to tell if the keybed in the LX88+ is different than the T series.
I never have my motorised fader plugged in on my P series, takes longer to boot and I never used it, however when you change device or mixer channel it always would map to that volume level, so the one motorised fader is not there for when mixing but quick changes to the current device\mix channel. On the P series I ended using the pads for other things like turning devices on and off, controlling OBS rather than finger drumming. The pads are a lot better, bigger and more sensitive on the T series. If I did not have my P1 I would more than likely have my P4 at my workstation rather than the T6. not having played an LX88+ I will have to ask you how much better is the keybed of the LX88+ over the LX61+?
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel There is a slightly noticeable difference on the LX88+ compared to the LX61+, and both are better than the LX49+. The people who talk about clunkiness in the keybed? LX49+. JohnMike on CZcams demonstrated his 61 was kind of clunky. Mine turned out better. The 88 is AWESOME. I just wondered how the Panorama gen 1 and gen 2 keybeds compare to the Impacts. I can't test either, and I can't just throw $500-600 to find out. I wish Nektar would make a Panorama P mark II with an LX88+ keybed (unless the P or T keybed is better), motorized faders instead of the current ones, and the T series pads (12 of them like now), basically combining the best of the current P series and the T series to replace them both for a clear flagship product.
@@bthellam A lot comes down to personal opinion on what people look for in a keybed, I like the weight of the P and T series as they are heavier than the LX61+ however with more weight comes what people call clunky depending on playing style, I think I have a playing style where I don't just let the keys flick off. I like playing the LX61+ for speed, the T series keybed does feel smoother than the P series. I've just done a flick test, holding a note and sliding my finger of the front of the keyboard on several of my keyboards. from quietest to loudest. Korg T1 (extremely quiet, nice heavy weighted keys) LX61+ Roland D70 P4 (very close to the D70) T6 (surprising one however I would move this right up when playing normally) Oxygen II In your case I don't think upgrading to a T series would be worth it just for the keybed, you will need to make good use of the controls and pads as well. Out of all of my keyboards the Korg T1 leaves the others in the dust in the keybed department (it's coming up 30 maybe 31 years old now, I know I got it when the first batch arrived in the UK).. If someone new was looking for a midi controller, well I would stick to how I recommended it at the end of video... Personally I don't like motorised faders due to them being noisy (so if they could be made to be dead quiet then yes) so instead I would prefer lighted finger strips and l.e.d's around the knobs..
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Thank you! I think my playing style is like yours in that way we don't let the keys flick off. The LX61+ has a quieter keybed than the Panoramas?! I agree with the end part. And right now, at first glance, the LX+'s and T series catch the eye more than the P series, with the LEDs and whatnot. The P series needs to be updated with a Mark II. I guess what I said before about the motorized faders isn't necessary, since it's more about how cool it looks when they all jump to position (compared to just one). But I have to acknowledge it doesn't seem like I'd use automation much. The parts of the P series that are important to me are likeable keybed, dedicated panners over the faders (I know the Mixer mode on the LX+ does this on the 8 encoders but, I mean, come on! This is better!), I do wish that instead of one button for mute and using Shift to solo there were two smaller buttons for mute and solo side by side, the function keys and dual function of the transport controls is cool, and finally it needs the sensitive lit pads of the T series but with the LX's ability to have 4 banks of pads with the 4 lighting colors. I got the LX+'s because I didn't think I'd need the screen, but as it turns out, it's hard to remember what function I'm trying to do half the time and the digital clock screen doesn't tell me much. Ha ha. Thank you for your input!
Do you use Reason? Do you know about the grab functionally? works wonders with Impact range due to no real screen and yes the screen does make a lot of difference...
T series is great and good quality build but it's lack of features and P series is just beter, T series can't control channel strips,EQ or any fx plugin in Cubase, Logic etc. I don't know about Reason but if someone find solution for this "problem" please share, help
I only use Reason so I can't comment about the other DAW's integration however we do have this Nektar User group on Facebook where you can ask your question there. facebook.com/groups/915283455174650/
Nektar should send him a freebie for this!!!
These videos are invaluable. Thanks so much for them!
You're very welcome!
Excellent presentation for those of us thinking about buying Nektar boards. Practical, no waffle and focus on the little details most others miss.
Thank you for taking your time to say so....
Completely agree with the angled screen idea. I use my T6 at a desk in front of my computer monitors, and the angle of the screen is less than ideal from a visibility standpoint. Always have to lean forward over it to see the display.
Thanks a lot PoohBear!!! I think Nektar should pay you for this!! Excellent demos!!! I love you!
I really like the P6. I took a P6 on tour with Elements in Asia. Stood up better than any other KB I have ever used. I did however manage to put a small crack in the plastic on the base underneath after dropping it from the stage accidentally while packing it. Further, I went on to play many many more shows after than without a problem. To add to that. If I had one wish for a KB that integrated to my DAW so easy, it would be that Nektar made a fully weighted P88. I would be the first to the buy one if they did. I still own that P6 and use it still after 8 years.. Still going strong. I use it to map Cubase and Reason.. I can’t say enough about the quality of the P6. Great KB!!
You mean the fusion group with Mark Egan and Danny Gottlieb?
@@JonesyTheCatnon credo sia lo stesso gruppo!
Hey Dude, looking for a Cubase mapping for a p4, care to share? Or any tips on making one…
Really interesting and informative video - thanks very much. And love the presentation style ! Have looked at every midi keyboard controller and have only just come across Nektar. Seems they don't get the same coverage as other keyboards. I really like what they offer though.
Glad it was helpful!
either I'll have three comments in a row here, or... none. they seem to not be posting for some reason. anyway... I'm just trying to thank you, poohbear, for your very generous & extra thorough efforts here. bravo, good sir!!
One posted OK :) thanks for taking your time to comment and nice comment too, cheers..
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel my pleasure. this vid was really helpful in my quest for the best be controller for me. yipee!!
Just wanted to thank you for doing this comparison. Thanks for all the details shared. I've already owned the LX61 for a couple of years now, but have considered getting something else for better keys. At the same time, I'm going to start focusing on doing different types of automation straight from the MIDI keyboard. Based on your info, I'm going to stick with the LX for now, but I'll likely end up getting the Panorama P6 down the road, unless they release an updated version of it with a better keyboard in which case I'll get that one. Soft synths and sound design/ambience is my go to and I really want to be able to modify as much as I can as quickly as I can... and the handy old mouse just don't cut it.
Kudos to you!
Personally as you are not in a rush you should keep an eye out for a cheap 2nd hand P1, combining the P1 with the any keyboard is a great match, the real nice thing is having the P1 pointed at players or effects while you play the instrument from the LX etc (I have done a video on how you can do that, even works with a LX but having 2 devices is quicker and better).
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Within hours of posting I've almost changed my mind and also may include your suggestion. I saw the Arturia Keylab MK2 has aftertouch, and since I already own V-Collection I'm considering getting it. But I'm not sure if the Logic integration is as good as Nektar's, so I might get the P1 and a Keylab.
@@zackersquackers It's such a shame we can't easily try the keyboards, I love the V-collection, mainly the ARP2600 and Modular V. The Keylab and P1 could be a good combination for you.
Note there are grab maps for a number of the V collection modules for all of the Nektar range.
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Pooh bear! Nice video buddy! I cant believe you were able to keep a keyboard since 1989! Amazing! You've answered most of the questions I had. I prefer the series p6. But I use MPK 261and komplete 61 more than any other controllers I have. Cheers pal! 🍻
I still use my Korg T1 today along with the P1, I have the T6 then the LX stacked above that, my P4 is in storage but as I think I said if I did not have my P1 then my P4 would be out all the time..
Thanks for the review. I'm Very happy with my LX61+
9:10 Yes!, I don't know why some reviewers keep saying that it's "Cheap finish or plastic" I some times think that those people are used to play in a Bosendorfer or a Fazioli. The finish of the plastic and the knobs buttons is kind of felt and very very well finished. And the DAW integration is amazing (I find the drum pads to be kind of difficult to trigger, but still very good)
This is what I needed to hear....you are great for helping me to go to the next level in adding gear which will benefit my workflow. 🎹👊🏾
Thank you for that in deep rewiev! You made me buy one of theese!
I hope you are enjoying it.
Thank you for your efforts much appreciated pal
I'm A Reason User Only Also and I'm Into Sound Design I Have A Nektar Panorama P6 And i Absolutely Love It. Nice Video & Channel Poohbear 💯
Thank you for saying so :)
How is the weight of the keys? I mean the resistance when playing.
@@marmitaa8619 its nice to the touch and smooth on the drum pads when composing like i said Nektar Panorama P6 Is all i need as a complete daw controller and i had it now for 2yrs & its still a beast 💯💯
A BIG THANK YOU for this video. I already bought the LX+ and then seen your vid.
Here's me looking for performance tools like Akai apc40 mkII which I will purchase at this present time until I receive my LX+ and I see if I actually need the apc40 due to possible LX+ mapping provided by yourself, and, the advice on the P1, which is now a 'must have'. Anyhow, Nektar Impact 49+ for £99 NEW at Dawson's, bought last night and just checked this morning and it's sold out, looks like I got the last one.
Appreciate the work involved with mapping and the time it takes. Pooh bear, your advice is priceless, get some donation thing going, great having you about, even a fiver here and there from folks all adds up.
Easy
Amazing review man! Always loved Nektar's integration with Logic and Mainstage. I've loved the look of the P6, but I think because of the QWERTY functions not being available on Mac and that price, I think I'll go for the T6 and maybe that P1 controller. Thank you!
What do you mean by the qwerty functions not being available on a Mac? I can't find anything about this.
Nm. Found it on their site:
"SHORTCUT TO SOFTWARE FUNCTIONS*
So QWERTY macro’s…… big deal, right? That’s right, its a VERY big deal. Your software has a ton of features and functions that can be activated using QWERTY shortcut commands. Assigning a command to a button so you don’t have to be near your computer makes life a lot easier. Assigning a string of up to 8 commands takes it to another level. With this powerful feature you could for example enter edit mode, zoom in and select a tool with just one button press.
Or create an instrument or effects track and locate a folder containing your presets so you can select them from Panorama, all with one button press and without looking at your computer.
*QWERTY macro’s are not available in OS X 10.11 or higher"
That's very bizarre. Is there an explanation for this?
Excellent video. Wish I had discovered you sooner, I would have saved hundreds of dollars and saved countless hours of workflow just from the info you provided.
Great comparison. thank you 🙂
Cool I think im gonna pull the trigger on the T4 to use with Reaper (sounds like the integration is great). I was hesitant because many reviews mention cheap material quality and issues like stuff breaking or stopping to work. I had a LX25 years ago that stopped working randomly only a few months after buying it. Maybe I'll get lucky, or at least hopefully just take really good care of it and cross my fingers there are no issues. You mention the build quality is pretty good, so.
If you have any issues contact Nektar support, they are fantastic, I know of people who had the P6 and yellow keys issues (I think it's a heat thing of who is effected by it over years) and years later (over 5 years) they have replaced keybeds FOC and they have done many other fixes FOC.
Please double check how the T series integrates with Reaper, this is a Reason channel and as I make the mappings for the Nektars a lot of the integration talk is about Nektar and Reason (which is 2nd to none).
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Cool yeah, from what I hear Nektar works good with Reaper too. Was about to pick up the T4 then I found a P4 used for around the same price so I grabbed it with a 1 year protection plan so from Guitar Center so hopefully it all works fine. I am very excited to start using it!
@@korpze206 I'm still using my P1 and T6 as a combi, TBH I don't touch the controls on the T6 as the P1 has it all. I've still got my P4, must nearly be about 9 years old now !!!
@@PoohBearsReasonChannelHaha, yeah, as long as it can still get the job done, right
Hi mate great video. I love your channel, it’s really helped me. I was wondering if could do an in depth video on the Panorama P series units? Including setup, updating and adding the templates for other RE’s/VST’s to the controller. Thanks again and keep up the great work!
Great suggestion, can not promise anything..
I ordered my T6 this week and can’t wait to see how it does. 😃
Very informative inside to the Nektar product line. I think, the T6 is rather a step back than forward, compared to the P6.
Yes and no, first of it is aimed in the middle of the LX and P series, so yes it would be a step back from the P series and a step forward compared to the LX range however they have also improved the keyboard and pads which is a big step forward.
A P series with the T series Keybed and Pads would be the best..
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel i agree. i recently bought a P6 from Am* for 380 EUR. The Pads are quite terrible, the keys are just o.k. Unfortunately, there are not much alternatives in that price range so that Nektar pretty much competes with itself.
If the T6 had only a better display!
@@rolfranders1866 I love the P1, funny thing was I had it for ages and was just doing mappings for it, use it all the time now with my T6, don't play my P4 anymore.
So a P1 with LX+61 would be a good combo however I did pick my P1 up cheap.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel i always try to keep it cheap, as creativity doesn't need to be expensive.
What i like with P-series though, is the excellent integration with my DAW (cubase). So until my next #1 Hit, i'll stick with the P6, i guess :)
Hey, is it true that the pads on these keyboards are sometimes unresponsive? Ive been thinking of getting the T6 but Ive seen it everywhere that the pads dont always register when you hit them
Thank you! Very clear and very useful.
Glad it was helpful :)
Just ordered the lx49! Thanks for the review!!
Thank you you saying so and you have fun once it arrives, if you are a Reason Users we have 1000's of grab maps setup for the LX range (only works with Reason).
really useful ibfo, just what I needed. I'll be aiming for the P4/6 I reckon. I've seen a lot of talk about the knob/slider coating becoming sticky, have you come across this?
I have not however from people I know and trust it has happened, seems to come down if you live in a hot place, now I have changed mine on my P1, P4 and T6, not because of issue, I just fancied a change and they look cool, so for a small price (
You got a P1 for 50 quid!!!! I would gladly pay double of that because I'm seeing used ones just under the MSRP!
£46, took about six months, I had bid on several over that time, I see there is not a lot on ebay now, one for a ton and that's about it..
thanks for reveiw!
Hey this is a really good review I really appreciate the effort you put into this. I do have one question though, would you choose a Arturia Keylab ESSENTIAL 88 or the Nektar T6, regardless of price more on feel of keys?
I have never used the Arturia Keylab ESSENTIAL 88 so I can not say however if you are a Reason user and you are after control then it has to be Nektar for the integration.
Helpful "waffling", thanks.
I didn't find any shop with Nektar P to test key action. It seems to be really good keyboard. Newest premium MIDI keyboards Arturia Mk2, NI kompletne kontrol and novation sl mk3 are not good. Novation sl mk3 has cheaper key action then it's old version sl mk2 and less knobs and sliders also needs power supply. Native instruments has very good fatar key bed but just 8 knobs and not much use if you don't use kontakt. Arturia mk2 has ok feature set but worst key action from all these 3.
Fantastic video, thank you! I'm in the process of deciding between the P and T series for Reason (and I hadn't even heard of the P1!). I'd heard that in the last few years the P series integration had become less - does this ring true or do you believe the Nektar series are still as deeply integrated in more recent Reason releases?
The integration has not really changed over the many releases of Reason, the controllers are just as good now as they were back then, HOWEVER what you could say is Nektar have not updated the maps in a very long time, we the community have but there are still newer devices that we have not mapped (it's not hard, just time consuming and we also now have a nice website frontend to help).
For controlling instruments\devices I use my P1 the most, I still use my T6 and Impact but my P4 has been moved off to one side (near the start of the video I showed my Korg T1 which I do use a lot).
Thanks for this video. I am deciding which one to buy the T or P series. Sound design and ease of use for soft synth usage is primary for me, so I think ill pay the extra 70 odd quid for the P series, if that screen deepens integration and ease of use then its for me (and my eyes are getting worse with age!). It's a shame about the keyboard being worse, but i'm returning the LX49+ to help pay for it so im sure the P series will be a step up in the key bed.
Do you know if there is much or any change in the way Nektarine behaves between the P and the T series? (I'm assuming Nektarine was designed with the T series in mind, so am worried that its clumsier on the P series). It's not just Reason I use BTW, I want to use it with a focus on soft synth interaction. Sorry for the long winded comment, you seem like the man to ask lol. I appreciate any input from you, and these great vids you have done, take care!
The funny thing about Nektarine was when it first came out there was all was the place for the 5th X button (T series only has 4) so I think they had it in mind from the start for the P series, It works on the P series, I don't use Nektarine because I do full mappings.
Ref the Keybed on the P series, I don't have any issues with it, there is a thread out there where someone took theirs apart and put in a small piece of cotton near the springs to dampen it. but as I said I'm happy with mine
Info about my maps etc for Reason..(There are over 700 full maps and over 2300 grab maps.)
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My current setup is still my T6 and P1, I do use my P1 more for controlling rather than the T6.
BRILLIANT video on the Nektar products, I have the P6 and still find it difficult to map to be honest, I'm using Studio One v4.5 now and Logic Pro X
Any links to mapping etc would be fab, Thanks Jono Rezzillo
Hi, I only use Reason and write all my own maps, I don't even know what format Studio One or Logic Pro are in. We support about 3000 + maps in Reason, you are more than welcome to them if they are of any use. www.dropbox.com/sh/sberq7vvyfitnzh/AACE-2ovSLhN2_5Cw0lhT4sra?dl=0
great review, thanks a lot!
Excellent review! Thank you!!
The clunk on my P6 keys (which I hear clearly in your vid) is still annoying all these years later. Playabiity however is fine. P6 is a very solid bit of kit (except for all the sticky knobs now covered in cat fur) but for me, it has been overkill as I just don't use the controllers, past the Transport buttons. The screen is useful for giving dB readouts of SSL Faders. Ooh, I just realized what the Function Keys are for! Silly me as I do use them a bit from the QWERTY but never the P6. Have to try that...
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I replaced my knobs not because any sticky issue, just wanted something different, my knobs are sliver and the encoders are black and sliver (that are in the style of an old Moog knob). I have not done my faders yet, planning on something bright so they are easy to see.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Can you give your assessment of the noise of these three keys?
I myself was only able to test the LX model - its keys were very noisy and had a strong play in the sides when playing. Have you had a similar experience with models T6, P6? Thank you.
@@e0236 If you find the LX noisy then you will find the others even more so.
My LX is quiet when compared to the others, if you flick the keys then there is more of a click\clunk sound but no different from any other keyboards (OK my Korg is super quiet but that is a fully weight keyboard), the T and P series are noisier in this regards, with all 3 I don't have any issues with side play.
Enjoyed this very informative thanks, I have a question, care to share your opinion on P4 vs Native Instruments S49 MK3, I'm a cubase user and was thinking of going NI komplete 14..care to share your thoughts?
If you are going to be using Kontakt or Kontrol at lot then the S49 is the way to go, I think you get a good deal on NI software when you buy the Keyboard.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Right so I purchased a P4 the other day!!! ( I know, I know) And Nektar only cover the very basics…I’m using Cubase and would like to know if you or anyone out there would have a mapping? And you are right it goes deep..
@@daytekblue There a number Cubase users in our Nektar FB group, you could try there.
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Long shot - BUT just getting a 2nd hand P6 and using Cubase 13 (though could roll back to 12 or 11) - do you have any cubase scripts that would function as a full midi remote for the P6?
I'm use Reason, however there is this Nektar group that someone might be able to help however midi is midi so I'm surprised if you need anything extra to use it in Cubase 13 over 12 or 11 (I suppose if there are new devices but I don't think Nektar have been keeping that part up to date, as I said I don't use Cubase so I'm only guessing there and basing that on that there has been no new support in Reason however we have a community that keeps adding remote maps weekly)... facebook.com/groups/915283455174650
Thank you very much!
You're welcome.
Thank you for this, great video, still trying to decide which keyboard is best for live performance as I need to quickly change between different DAWS that have sax, piano and strings so need to assign instruments to different buttons if this is possible?
I only use Reason so I can't comment about other DAW's, is there a reason why you can't run it all in Reason or are you here just due to the video? If you do use Reason I have a video about using it live, I want to redo it as some instruments were not picking up the performance data but I have a workaround for that.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Thank's PoohBear, I have not seen or used Reason before but will look into it, I am a Cubase user and tend to do everything in cubase.
There are a couple of solutions that people follow, the main one being playing all the instruments at the time but making use of muting the ones you don't want to hear, the main issues with that is losing tails and high DSP, now I don't know Cubase however the solution I came up with is turning off the midi to the instruments, this helps with DSP and does not lose any tails to sounds being played, so I don't know if that is something you can do in Cubase. In Reason it makes use of a RE called Midi-CV converter. This video may give you some ideas or pointers. czcams.com/video/0cyvx-HPqSI/video.html
Side note: Reason is brilliant DAW, if you are into hardware then you will at home with Reason :)
@@PoohBearsReasonChannelI will try using the midi control in cubase and also look into reason, thank you
wow so many of the nektar gear. i know you have done few of the keyboard tutorials and was wondering about the P1. i do not have any space left on my desk for a keyboard but i can make space for the P1, and was wondering how much of the integration does the P1 have on reason 12 and all its racks. mainly was wondering how it will work on 3rd party vst like waves.
The P1 has the same indeepth integration as the P4 and P6, not all the new instruments in R12 are mapped as it's mainly been down to me to do the mappings and R12 has not been that stable and I have moved onto other things now, however there is a new website to help with mappings.
remapp.noiseshadow.com/ (note the site seams to be down at the moment so hopefully it will be backup next week)
Hey! Loved your video comparing midi keyboards. If I’m looking for a keyboard that maps to Studio one well, has velocity, weighted keys is a huge want and I’m looking to spend between 300-500 USD, do you have a recommendation? I’ve pretty much decided on getting the Nektar T6 Panorama based off of your video, but was wondering if you had a different suggestion. Thanks!!
Please note the T series is not a weighted keybed, they call it a 2nd generation synth keybed and I personally like the action (it is light but heaver than most synth action keybeds I have played on) however I also have a "Korg T1" (makes it confusing that is has a T in the model number) that has hammer action keybed and that is totally different from the Nektar T series. I still have NOT got my hands on a LX plus 88 that has semi weighted keys so that might be better. Oh wow I just double checked the price of things as it's been a while since I have last checked, the T series are very very well priced, I was going to recommend you looking at maybe pairing a P1 with the LX+ 88 however there is now also the GXP88 but again I have no experience of the keyboard but it's semi weighted.
For those who need a keybed to fit their needs (and I totally get it as I use my T6 and LX61 95% of the time and my Korg T1 when I really want to play more of a piano sound) I usually recommend the P1 paired with a keyboard of their choice but again I'm usually talking to people that use Reason as their DAW, nothing comes close to Nektar and the integration into Reason.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Thanks! Yes I understood and remember you mentioned in the video that the T6 panorama was not actually semi weighted but that you liked the feel of it. I appreciate the advice!!
Damn. I wish the t6 had actual synth action as I play really fast and the semi-weighted action is a deal killer... I guess the L series is the only way forward but with less functionality is my only option :-(
It is synth action, Nektar call it 2nd gen, you can play extremely fast and over a period on that keyboard.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel so you stated in the video the t6 seemed to be more semi-weighted than the p6, so is the p6 more synth action than the p6 despite techncally labled "semiweighted", meaning i could play really fast on the p6 as well?
Santa is bringing me the P6 in 2 weeks... Hope it's as good as people say (cubase 10 pro user)
I hear it works well in Cubase but I have also heard a couple of people have had "user" issues setting it up. There is a group on FB called "Nektar Users" if you have any issues.
Hi! Would you recommend the t6 keyboard for orchestral mockups? How is the quality and feel of the keys? And how is the t6 un comparassion with m audio oxygen pro? Thank you so much.
It hard to recommend as I don't know your standards, I had M-Audio Oxygen MkIII (maybe) a few years ago and the keys on that were nothing to write home about and encoders did end up breaking (as in the pots died).
I first got my T series nearly 3 years ago and I still use it more or less everyday. The aftertouch was very sensitive (still is but I have got use to that now) and that could come in handy for doing orchestral stuff as it does give it quite an expressive quirk about it.
P series Mk2 with the better keybed and pads from T series would be a dream
No arguments from me there, that would be nice :)
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel P6 Arrived today, well yesterday, it was a long day!
@@mitchiemasha Excellent controller, are you a Reason user or another DAW?
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel I'm in Cubase. Where's the best P series community?
@@mitchiemasha I'm admin is this group and I know that one of the other Admin's is a Cubase users.
facebook.com/groups/915283455174650/
i hear its a reason channel, insta sub
Thank You sir very helpful
Most welcome...
Hi, I'm in the process of getting the Nektar Panorama P6 for use with Reason 12.
Please tell me all the reasons to get another even more suitable keyboard with Reason 12!
Thanks a lot in advance and greetings from Italy🇮🇹🍷☀️
This is probably a language barrier thing however if I was to answer what you asked, then there is not any other keyboard better than the Nektar's integration with Reason, if you are really asking why get the P6, it really comes down to how you think you will use it with Reason, as I just said, the No.1 reason is the DEEP integration.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel thank you ☺️
Is the white one in the middle a standalone keyboard? Does it come with its own sounds. I’m asking because the video wasn’t playing all the through. So i couldn’t get a full review.
They are all midi controllers, so none of them have their own sounds..
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel damn! Why would they make something SO elegant looking, and not give it’s own sound? Thanks for replying?😊
Great review sir just one question which of this in your opinion will last longer and has the best key action since i use reaper myself i think nektar is best suited for reaper
As I said in the Video the T series has the best key action however the P series is not that far behind, as for last the longest I can't say, I've had my P series keyboard since 2013 and only the other day did the Pitch bend wheel play up, which I know that Nektar will replace.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel
Yea the sad thing is i live in Bangladesh and nektar doesn’t ship there + they don’t have any dealership also that's why i am asking about which one will last the longest. I had a m-audio keystation for 3 years and i hoked it up with an i-pad and i did live with that and used the same keyboard at home recording also. So given my conditions and o have to pay like 356% import tax if i get it from india suggest me a keyboard sir which will last a long time. Cause i have my old yamaha psr 413 and its still kicking and doing really ok if only that keyboard had a modulation wheel than i would have been really happy
@@Krantykeys Understand, I have an old Korg T1, I've had it 30 years, still going strong and I use it a lot more now that I have paired it with the Nektar P1 (which I picked up cheap 2nd hand), so if you are looking for integration that may be an option (note the P1 is a controller, no pitch nor mod wheel).
Great video, thanks! I use logic but will all your extra mappings you've created also work in that daw too?
I don't think so. I only use Reason.
This is a great video, even a couple of years later. You mentioned the secondhand market, if you buy secondhand can you get the required software without having to buy anything extra?
yes you can, you just create an account and enter the serial number, it works out what software and firmware is available for that model, you get even more choices when saying what DAWs you have etc.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Brilliant mate, thank you. Got 2 potions, new t6 or used p6. I know the keyboard and pads are better on the t6 but like the screen and the ability to do zones on the p6. Decisions decisions lol
@@Yosser70 LOL, it's a hard one, you could try and find a 2nd hand P1 and pair that with the T6... I got my P1 purely so I could test my mappings on it (mappings for the P4/6 and P1 are almost the same but there are one or two that are different down the fact the P1 does not have a Mod or blend wheel) however I have it on my desk all the time..
I think another good pairing if you have space would be the LX88 with the P1....
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Oh don't go giving me more options! lol In all seriousness though, I think the P6 is the way to go for me. I'm no keyboardist so the key feel isn't a big deal and i've got seperate pads if needed. Just feel I'd want the extra control and options with the P6.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Just ordered the P6. Seller sent me the serial no to check registration and all worked fine 🙂 Thanks again for the info mate.
Ive seen in a few places that the pads on the T6 are sometimes unresponsive, is that true? Id hate to be hitting them and not registering if making beats etc.
I have not had issues with my pads however I know of a couple who did have, Nektar replace the keyboards in question and with one person they returned it as they had a few different issues.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel awesome! thats good to know that they have a good costumer service. Thanks for the in depth review of these nektar products btw there isnt much info on these out there for some reason.
Hi PoohBear first of all thanks for your work and great tutorials they make a difference in the journey of many of us , blessings !! /// I want to ask you if u have idea o how to map Syntronik to bitwig in specific the remote part of sintronik where you can browse select etc. i hope u can help me whit this. am lost
It's been my experience that browser portion of VST's are not remotable, yes there are some that do allow simple next\previous of patches but far and few inbetween.
A good starting place is Nektarine, even if it's just for looking to see what is available..
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Got it , i will do that , have a great day !
🎉 Great video. Do you still use Reason?
I only use Reason, I have no "reason" to use anything else :)
if compare which is better for buy Nektar P6 or Arturia KeyLab 61 MkII
I have not used the Arturia keylab so it's unfair for me to say which one, however I have heard it is nice keyboard, don't know how well it integrates with Reason.
I’m in a right pickle! All my tunes are on a really, really old version of NUENDO (2....yes 2.......) using really old 32 bit plug-ins which I love.....hypersonic, edirol orchestral, ppg wav, pro 52, B4, Absynth old, guitar rig old. Will the P6 be able to control all that? I’ve kind of set my heart on it..... or will I have to go to the painstaking process of rebuilding everything in cubase 10.5? OR do I just get an AKAI FORCE n have enough done with cubase altogether?
I'm a Reason user and don't know much about other DAW's (as they don't meet my needs), the P6 is a midi controller at the end of the day so it should work with any DAW, however it's real power does come down to integrated support for major DAWs, as I said I'm a Reason user and no other midi controller comes close to the P and T series for integration with Reason. So if you are mainly using Nuendo then maybe the P6 is an overkill..
Hello, I was going to buy the T6 but a guy told me about the m-audio oxygen61 and said it has better keys.
This is my first kb and don't know how to make this decision.
I like Nektar very much and I would really appreciate your opinion on which one is better for you. I can afford the T6 or either P6 if worth it, but now starts to becoming really old and don't know if they still update it.
Would you please tell me your opinion? The more vids I watch the more I get confused XD
What DAW do you use? If it's Reason then Nektar for integration is a no brainer.
I had an older Oxygen and the encoders started to go after a few years.
Just think about what you want out of a keyboard, make a list with key points and make sure the keyboard you get meets your needs.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel thank you very much for your answer. Yeah I saw some videos of people experiencing this kind of problems with Oxygen's encoders.
I'm going to use Cubase, some producers say it could be one of the best for working on midi and for producing orchestral music like I would. But this is my first experience so all may change in the future.
What I don't understand is: if Nektar made things easier with nektarine, integrations, etc, so why isn't everyone buying it?
I saw some vid about nektarine but there's too much technicalities for my zero experience to really understand what they're talking about.
I'm really having hard time due to this damn keyboard choice 🤯
@@lucacorona6681 When Nektar released Nektarine I did recommend that they create a storage of user defined Nektarine mappings (an upload location) however they said the main point of Nektarine is so people can have their own tailor made mapping, I think they missed the boat there.
The main point of Nektarine is you create a mapping and you can use that one mapping in all DAWs (that support VST's), Nektarine does make sense to use with Reason due to the way mappings work and the support of VST's in Reason means we don't need Nektarine, but that is a side point :)
Also note the P series works with Nektarine...
From the video a lot comes down to what you want to do with your keyboard, e.g. to use it to do a lot of sound design etc.
This is a Nektar facebook group, there a few Cubase users there, I only use Reason, so why not go and pick peoples thoughts to get a good understanding of how good Nektar products are with Cubase etc..
facebook.com/groups/915283455174650
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel I'm sorry my english isn't perfect and I don't understand what you mean here: Nektarine does make sense to use with Reason; but also with Reason you don't need Nektarine because it has VST support? So why does make sense to use Nektarine with Reason? Or maybe you wanted to say "doesn't make sense to use with Reason"?
Btw if Nektarine helps you switching between DAWs keeping your maps, if I use only one DAW then Nektarine isn't very useful (?).
But if I get tired of Cubase and want to try Reason I have everytthing setted up just like I left.
Long story short: I only have to do the work once. Right?
Thanks for sharing the group, I'm not very much in love with social networks but for music I'm gonna make an exeption.
@@lucacorona6681 Correct, you only have to do the mapping in Nektarine once and then you can use it in other DAWs.
Sorry if my comment about Reason is misleading, the main reason I don't use Nektarine in Reason is I have managed the mappings for years, I have created 100's of full maps and over 3000 grab maps and hence Nektarine does NOT (I missed that all important word, DOH!!) make sense to use..
I just got the Impact LX 61 +, so I hope is good as you described it. When I learn the Reaper and Bitwig programs bit better, I may hook up my big Piano GDX-660 to it. For now, I'm having a lot of trouble just figure out these buttons on LX 61+. Which program would you prefer, Raper or Bitwig? Thanks, Michael.
I only use Reason. Bitwig I have had a little look at due to the grid however Reason on that regards (total free wiring) leaves all the other DAWs behind..
How about arturia essensial 49
Hello I'm trying to pick the best Midi Keyboard for Bitwig studio I am looking for performance and integration is the T6 or the LX 61+ which should I get
TBH I don't use Bitwig, the T series should be more integrated however I would ask that question on this facebook page here.
facebook.com/groups/915283455174650
Thanks for the review
Does the p4 has a multi button ? and is it compatible with nektarine?
No Multi but is compatible with Nekartine..
I’m about to buy one and I’ve just read that the P6 has problems with MacOs Sierra, do the instrument mode and the internal mode work as they should in Sierra? 🤔
I don't own a Mac however the only issue I know about is the P series have what is called function keys, they can't be programed on a Mac, the integration into DAWs works fine, like any Mac OS update double check it's support before upgrading.
Hope not.. I still use Sierra and I've just ordered the P6 gulp
@@PB72UK I got the T4 some days ago and I have bugs on macOS High Sierra and Mojave with Reason 10.4. In the Subtractor mapping I have problems with the buttons below the display. They are mapped, but the shown text is not updated properly with Subtractor. In Europa, Thor it works properly. I looked in the Remote Mapping file (Panorama2.remotemap), everything looks ok.
Pauls Audiolabor I'll be using with Sierra and cubase pro .. I'm hoping I'm not going to have such issues 🤪
HI. Thanks for the video. I have a P6. Can you tell me what the make/model of the stand you're using for the three keyboards, please?
Quik Lok is the only thing printed on it, I brought it like 30 years ago.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Thanks for responding. I'm sure I'll find something suitable. I just liked the fact that it had those stackable extensions. Just saw this page from your answer: www.quiklok.com/instrument-series/keyboard-stands/
@@robert-cope Looking at that site mine look similar to these www.quiklok.com/product/ql-623-heavy-duty-keyboard-stand/
Hello, I have a silly question being a newbie. I have a T4 and I wanted to know if the maps are only related to Reason because I think it may be related to the keyboard, Nektarine and VST. Can you use the maps in reaper?
The maps I talk about are for Reason only however Nektarine is for any program that can run a VST :)
Don't forget to download the support files for Reaper from Nektar.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Thank you :)
You said you used the pads to control OBS? as in the streaming software?
Yes, I use a number of my midi devices to control elements in Windows, just converting the Midi CC# to keystrokes, Midi-ox works really well for that along with Auto Hotkey if I want to do something more complex with it. I mainly use my FCB1010 foot pedal (has 10 pedals built in) for controlling OBS and Reason (like tabing to the back and zooming in on my video's etc)
Thanks for the video, handy timing as I was considering a T6. I was wondering how well they interface with Kontakt in Reason? I mainly want to control software orchestral libraries. Do you need to constantly re-map keys each time you load a library or can you set templates for each library as required? Cheers in advance.
Reason see's Kontakt but not what insturments it has playing inside of it, you could say Reason does not care what is going on inside of Kontakt apart from here is some midi now give me your audio. Nektar is the same however Kontakt has exposed about 500 remotes, the T series is mapped as default to the first 25 parameters, now what those parameters are I can not say as you can load different libraries inside Kontakt. So you might be lucky and it all works as you would expect or you may have to make a small change to the mappings, off course you can make a big change the mappings to cover all the exposed parameters.
Example the first 4 knobs are mapped to :- For strings series that would be Expresion, Attack, Release, Brightness. for Brass series that would be Attack, Release, Tightness and Motion. The big dynamic button is mapped to the Mod wheel. For Retro Machines to would be Cutoff, Reso, Sound and Fat.
So it looks like the way they have mapped the Symphony series you could be lucky in getting the T4/6 setup the way you want.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Thanks for the insight. Reason has terrible integration of MIDI devices in general, to the point I usually do most of my arranging in Reaper then convert the stems back to Reason when all the MIDI stuff is done. Cheers mate.
These midi controllers really work well with Reason, I have a number of older midi devices that I hook up without issues but yes the Midi support in Reason could be a lot better. I highly recommend using Koshdukai Codec's with older devices as you can use different midi channels etc, I did this video about setting up external midi devices. czcams.com/video/YvODre7sFG0/video.html
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Cheers for that. I posted a question on that video some time ago, just uploaded a video response now for you.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel What do you think about Kontakt mapping in Nektarine? Is there a possibility to safe individual mappings for different Kontakt Instruments and switch these mappings by hand?
How do they stand against the newer/poshier ones from Arturia and Native Instruments ?
Nektar is still the No. 1 deepest integration in Reason and in fact is heads above Arturia and Native Instruments, now where both Arturia and Native Instruments come into their own is with their own software e.g. Analog Lab / Kontakt..
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Thanks! I alreay have AnalogLab (the full version) so it is not an issue for me. I am ordering the T6 - At this very moment.
Cool ! Does the panorama T has scale function?
No scale functions, use devices for that from your DAW...
Someone could please give me confirmation I would have quiet an equivalent product to Novation Impulse 61 with Panorama T6 ? (I own an Impulse49, need a 61 controller and have a nice 2nd hand opportunity on a T6).
I did got a LX61+ a couple a week ago. I was HEAVLY reviewing many keyboards, and I got to compare the Novation Launch Key 61 and finally I got the Nektar. There are few features different but the nektar is quite good. I bit more functionality. I can't tell about the Impulse and the T6
@@edrumsense Thanks anyway for your out of question answer ;))
How do the recessed pitch wheels feel? They seem strange to play
They are not recessed, might look that way with the angle of the video, the LX does have a smaller wheels but at the end of the day they are just like any other keyboard I have played\owned.
Just a question, when running reason racks in bitwig, will this work easilly on the panorama series.. or will this be patched in the future?
I don't think this will work well with the Reason Rack, as the the Reason Rack is just a VST however it's configuration can be totally different each time..
PoohBear's Reason Channel yeah i was fraid of that answer.
Hello sir. I have a LX88+, this was my first keyboard and absolutely love it. Due to space restriction i bought a Oxygen Pro 61 to my regret, the keys are so light i feel scammed by them advertizing semi weighted keys.... Now i looked into the Novation Impulse since i can get that pretty cheap but i got strongly recommended to get either the t6 or p6.
Now as you said in this video you feel like the semiweight on the t series is stronger that the p series. How does the t series compare with the LX which i believe has no semiweights? I believe only the 88 has that but i could be wrong. A reply is very much appreciated. I mainly want good feeling "heavy-weighted" controller. Thank you.
With heavy weighted i mean the keys have reasonable resistance.
I will answer this the best I can, as it is really a personal thing, I have heard people say the keys are too light and too heavy on the T series ??
The LX is really light (excluding the LX88), The T series is light but it does have a nice resistance for me, I have Korg T1 full weighted, I don't play that much now, the Korg T1 is really lovely to play however I can only play for a short time. The action works for me on the T6, as I stated I put it on par with my Roland D70 which is classed as a performance keyboard. As you like the LX88 I would try my hardest to make space for it...
A big reason I did not get the P6 or 4 is that it doesn't make sense to me to put one motorized fader and nine non-motorized faders. I'd rather get a Behringer X-Touch Universal. Also, I haven't found any reviews liking the pads on the P6 or 4, even though there are more. I do want to ask: are the keybed and pads on the T6/4 better than the Impact LX+ series? I have the LX61+ and LX88+ and am just curious if the T6/4 are really any better? I'm not ignoring that you currently prefer the T6 at your workstation. Their webpage makes it hard to tell if the keybed in the LX88+ is different than the T series.
I never have my motorised fader plugged in on my P series, takes longer to boot and I never used it, however when you change device or mixer channel it always would map to that volume level, so the one motorised fader is not there for when mixing but quick changes to the current device\mix channel.
On the P series I ended using the pads for other things like turning devices on and off, controlling OBS rather than finger drumming.
The pads are a lot better, bigger and more sensitive on the T series.
If I did not have my P1 I would more than likely have my P4 at my workstation rather than the T6.
not having played an LX88+ I will have to ask you how much better is the keybed of the LX88+ over the LX61+?
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel There is a slightly noticeable difference on the LX88+ compared to the LX61+, and both are better than the LX49+. The people who talk about clunkiness in the keybed? LX49+. JohnMike on CZcams demonstrated his 61 was kind of clunky. Mine turned out better. The 88 is AWESOME. I just wondered how the Panorama gen 1 and gen 2 keybeds compare to the Impacts. I can't test either, and I can't just throw $500-600 to find out. I wish Nektar would make a Panorama P mark II with an LX88+ keybed (unless the P or T keybed is better), motorized faders instead of the current ones, and the T series pads (12 of them like now), basically combining the best of the current P series and the T series to replace them both for a clear flagship product.
@@bthellam A lot comes down to personal opinion on what people look for in a keybed, I like the weight of the P and T series as they are heavier than the LX61+ however with more weight comes what people call clunky depending on playing style, I think I have a playing style where I don't just let the keys flick off.
I like playing the LX61+ for speed, the T series keybed does feel smoother than the P series.
I've just done a flick test, holding a note and sliding my finger of the front of the keyboard on several of my keyboards.
from quietest to loudest.
Korg T1 (extremely quiet, nice heavy weighted keys)
LX61+
Roland D70
P4 (very close to the D70)
T6 (surprising one however I would move this right up when playing normally)
Oxygen II
In your case I don't think upgrading to a T series would be worth it just for the keybed, you will need to make good use of the controls and pads as well.
Out of all of my keyboards the Korg T1 leaves the others in the dust in the keybed department (it's coming up 30 maybe 31 years old now, I know I got it when the first batch arrived in the UK)..
If someone new was looking for a midi controller, well I would stick to how I recommended it at the end of video...
Personally I don't like motorised faders due to them being noisy (so if they could be made to be dead quiet then yes) so instead I would prefer lighted finger strips and l.e.d's around the knobs..
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel Thank you! I think my playing style is like yours in that way we don't let the keys flick off. The LX61+ has a quieter keybed than the Panoramas?!
I agree with the end part. And right now, at first glance, the LX+'s and T series catch the eye more than the P series, with the LEDs and whatnot. The P series needs to be updated with a Mark II. I guess what I said before about the motorized faders isn't necessary, since it's more about how cool it looks when they all jump to position (compared to just one). But I have to acknowledge it doesn't seem like I'd use automation much. The parts of the P series that are important to me are likeable keybed, dedicated panners over the faders (I know the Mixer mode on the LX+ does this on the 8 encoders but, I mean, come on! This is better!), I do wish that instead of one button for mute and using Shift to solo there were two smaller buttons for mute and solo side by side, the function keys and dual function of the transport controls is cool, and finally it needs the sensitive lit pads of the T series but with the LX's ability to have 4 banks of pads with the 4 lighting colors.
I got the LX+'s because I didn't think I'd need the screen, but as it turns out, it's hard to remember what function I'm trying to do half the time and the digital clock screen doesn't tell me much. Ha ha. Thank you for your input!
Do you use Reason? Do you know about the grab functionally? works wonders with Impact range due to no real screen and yes the screen does make a lot of difference...
So these maps, are they reason specific.....I mean are most of them reason specific. I've just ordered a T4 but I'm using Reaper.
The maps I manage are for Reason only. There is Nektarine which will work with every DAW.
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel that's cool. Thanks for doing what you do.
T4 or P4, which would you go with if you had to pick one?
P4, but as I stated in the video you need to weigh up what YOU are going to be using it for...
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel I've been leaning towards the P series myself. Thanks for the feedback, I'll look more into it.
Which midi board has got onboard zones?
The P series, LX 88+
T series is great and good quality build but it's lack of features and P series is just beter, T series can't control channel strips,EQ or any fx plugin in Cubase, Logic etc. I don't know about Reason but if someone find solution for this "problem" please share, help
I only use Reason so I can't comment about the other DAW's integration however we do have this Nektar User group on Facebook where you can ask your question there. facebook.com/groups/915283455174650/
@@PoohBearsReasonChannel thanks
dose none of these have a power supply to plug it in the wall?
do they just run off from the pc
@@baxterstockman2191 They can run straight from the PC, however one port of the P4\P6 could be run from an adaptor.