"tried to blow up parliament... maybe not such a bad idea" You've got to be careful making statements like that Matt. You're already on the watch list for being a sharp objects dealer.
In the US there are types of firearms holsters that are designed to make it harder for someone else to steal a police officer's pistol. I guess if it was a good idea for swords it was a good idea for firearms.
zaqzilla1 Pretty sure they have those holsters here in Sweden. I seem to recall it from my younger years when some cops visited our school and talked about their work and showed us their guns. Here the standard issue carry is the Sig Sauer P-series.
It is (or at least, used to be) common for police holsters in the US to have a mechanism that required a specific drawing motion to free the weapon, for very similar reasons. Weapon retention is important, even for generally competent people.
BrimleyAvatar Nowadays pistol retention holsters are divided into classes. Class 1 is passive retention, typically a strap or something similar, mainly to keep the pistol from falling out during vigorous activity. Class 2 is active retention, such as the button release on this sword, that requires deliberate action on the part of the user to release the firearm. Class 3 is both these systems working together in one holster.
Matt, can you do a video about the history behind the development of police forces and what systems of law enforement predated them? Granted, that's probably more of a Metatron-style video, but you could discuss it in the *context* of the types of weapons they used.
I've heard anecdotes about the American Cavalry during the Indian Wars that they had to start telling the troopers NOT to sharpen their sabers because fighting against the lightly equipped Native Warriors the blades tended to cut too deeply and get stuck in bone due to the lack of armour or protective clothing. Despite the much heavier clothing worn in Northern Europe, would that perhaps also explain the use of unsharpened blades by Police?
The police didn't use them un sharpened, rather they were stored un sharpened, most military swords of the era were made with a not quite sharp edge, and sharpened when the specific soldier carrying it was to be deployed in an active war zone or otherwise expected to actually have need of it in the near future. As a separate note, i would distrust those anecdotes, as we know of many cultures throughout history, including native americans themselves, that went into battle effectively naked usually against equally unarmored opponents and all of them sharpend their blades.
I'm impressed by the thickness of the spine. It's unusual on shorter blades like these to have such a strong spine, as there isn't a huge need for stiffness. It's a bit weird to chose a centered symetrical tip on a blade that curved, I find. But comparing it to the 1831 gladius (which, during the period, was called "sabre d'infanterie" - which will probably drive an English person crazy) is not very relevant. By all standards, except manufacturing, the 1831 gladius was quite crappy and unfit for the job: heavier and lot less practical than a billhook as a tool, and also way shorter and less nimble than a briquet. A bad idea all in all. Also, it was exclusively a military implement, meant to combine a tool and weapon, I guess probably to reduce the number of elements in the military kit. It was unpopular, thus the "cabbage chopper" nickname. When it was adopted by other "troops" (national guard, military firefighters "sapeurs-pompiers", etc), in 1855, they made it significantly lighter and more weapon-like, and much closer to an actual gladius. This version is known in French as "glaive de pompier", though it was mainly designed for the national guard. That hanger has to be compared with the "briquet", precisely. As far as I know, the first real French briquet was adopted in 1767, as a grenadier's hanger to replace previous models of full-sized sabers, already with a cast brass grip, but that was becoming an hindrance in modern warfare. So they decided to make it shorter, more compact (flat single bar hilt), and cheaper to produce. The concept caught on quite well, so that it was a relatively commonplace piece of kit during the revolutionnary wars and Napoléon's campaigns, but it was still not issued to all troops, only to grenadiers (impressive tall guys with bearskins shakos), sometimes to voltigeurs (short athletic guys, agile light infantry), both flankers in marching and batte formation, but rarely, if ever, to fusiliers (basic infantry, only carrying the bayonet as close combat weapon). Briquets went to live a long life even after the 1831 gladius was introduced as the by default sidearm for all the infantry, as it was still carried by the national guard, and all sorts of other guards. It came in a wide variety of blade styles. Here is my collection of briquets, and though some can be approximately dated (the two earliest at the bottom are from the revolutionary era), they can be anytime from about 1805 to 1850. All in all, they are all perfectly usable and decent. Some are really excellent, like the one with a hussar type of blade, wide, thin and well curved. As weapons, they are vastly superior to the 1831 gladius, by far. And the basic An XI/1816 pattern (the third from the bottom, the only one actually to pattern) also makes for a decent clearing tool, machete style (I've actually used it to carve my way into meters deep of brambles, it just requires a relatively specific technique of swinging it in large arcs, arm extended, without ever stopping): i.imgur.com/7AvAo7Xh.jpg
I wonder if Mr. Easton has ever read Terry Pratchett: the novel "Night Watch" in particular. In some form or other much of what he talks about here is included in some form in that book. From cavalry charges into rioters to the police training with various weapons. It uses a generally medieval fantasy setting, but a lot of recognizable Victorian era imaginings.
Serendipity! Just last week I found out the 1900 Paris police all carried hangers normally, and was wondering how to find out more about police swords. The bicycle police in the big parks hung theirs on the frame just ahead of the seat.
I like these historical weapons series videos. I especially feel like I absorb the information better when I revisit them later and watch them end on end.
Ad Roy - The "glaive de pompier" or "glaive de cantinière", as it is known, was carried by all sort of sorta military troops that weren't going to use it much, mostly the national guard. Since the 1831 is heavy as hell, they made it lighter. And frankly, it makes for a better weapon than the regular 1831, and at least it doesn't pretend to double as a tool. But so far, though I've many variants, I don't remember any with pierced quillions.
The frog button reminds me of Serpa holsters. I think the frog button is better designed, and swords don't shoot you when you fail to fully depress the button. Fantastic idea, I'd have one on my own sword as a civilian or private security since I value retention highly. I'll see if I can get one made for the scabbard of any long bladed swords I plan for practical use. Thank you!
You mentioned in your recent chainmail video, that quite a few of your viewers may not be experts on the subjects that you talk about. This is definitely true in my case. And if a significant part of your subs are like me, then I may have an idea for a video/video series you might want to make. And that is a video/videos explaining the names and terms for medieval or otherwise historical weapons, with pictures. Like: This is a bastard sword, they tend to look like this, defined as such, different from an arming sword, they look like this, this is a hanger, this is a rondel dagger, kukuri, mace, morning star, etc... It may be annoyingly basic to people who know much about these things, but I would find it very educational, with many of the (basic) differences explained in one video/video series. I realize as I am writing this that it may be a large undertaking, but is could be split up with weapon categories and spread out over time. Just an idea! Otherwise thanks for much great content, Matt!
Well, to start things off, there is no such thing as chainmail, it's just mail. Mail essentially means chain, so by saying chainmail you're basically saying chain chain. Likewise, there is defnitely no such thing as platemail, scalemail, etc., when referring to any other armor type just drop the mail at the end of it. So platemail becomes plate, or plate armor, or plate harness, scalemail is just scale or scale armor, or (to use the Roman term) lorica squamata.
Their are plenty of discussion boards online, the impetus is on you to go learn (thats half of the fun of the hobby). Also lots of differing opinions and arguing.
it's still a good idea for a series of videos for mat or someone to do ( i would watch it, i don't know everything and even if i know something a refresher in the context of other weapons is always interesting and entertaining ) ,, ps a lot of forums online are poison .full of egos , opinions ( rather than facts ) and bullshit ,, and sometimes not very newb friendly .. or fun
well... more or less matt has such videos just... they are not labeled & that's not the main point of them , as every time he shows us a sword/weapon as the main topic of a video (& often times wen they are not) he says what they are. But i believe you are correct, if he did a video or a few to cover the basics of all the terminology it would be quite useful even for those who know most of it.
Interesting, I googled "dynamitard" and couldn't find any real info. Only a dictionary definition as an archaic term for a "political dynamiter" (with "dynamiter" itself defined as "someone who uses dynamite, especially unlawfully") in wiktionary, taken from obsolete (and thus open source) copies of Webster's. Are you planning on doing a video, because now I'm intrigued?
In italian there is the same term, dinamitardo,to refer to someone using explosives unlawfully. Kinda like arsonist is different from firemaker,a sapper or demolition expert is not called dinamitardo.
I'd rather have a gladius than a saber in a prison or on a train. Much better for anti grappling. The saber would be a better street patrol sword, perhaps paired with a buckler for ease of carry and to keep the hands free and feet fast.
We in US even know who Guy Fawkes is, thanks to the film "V for Vendetta" if not out of historical curiosity. Love that hanger regardless. Would love to have that, especially with the accompanying manual in my collection. Cheers Matt!
You are not allowed to blow up the Palace of Westminster (the Houses of Parliament) because it is a Grade I listed building and a UNESCO World Heritage Site. Also, Guy Fawkes plotted to blow up the Old Palace, which burned down in 1834, not the current buildings.
Very interesting. Modern police side arm holsters also have a retention system. Don't want your lethal weapon to come into play when you are subduing a suspect.
My dad has one of these swords, the scabbard is missing the attachments and I don’t remember his being copper coloured, more of a dark metal. The handle was a grey snake/reptile/crocodile skin, I always like that, but it does seem a bit weird.
When will you be doing a video on the swords and truncheons of the Ankh-Morpork City Watch? After all, you cannot ignore the arms of such a storied institution!
I have one higher rank police hanger, it is certainly fancier than those used by the constables, but not terribly fancy, it has a few extra bars on the guard for example. If really fancy versions exist will certainly try to get one.
@@scholagladiatoria : A longer time ago i visited , Wehrgeschichtliches Museum' in Rastatt/ Germany. Some time before my visit, there was an exhibition of german police edged weapons. In the catalogue(?) i could read, that in imperial Germany the troopers had simple, but robust weapons, low rank officers had a lighter, but still useable saber, while high rank officers, which are like in our days, rarely in ,frontline' often had smallswordlike edged weapons. Perhaps this helps.
I love it how he doesn't even comment about the cat being used as a missile in that old print. Maybe that's just something that they still do on a Friday night in Guildford. No big deal. Why wouldn't you throw a cat?
One of my favourite swords, I have a couple as well. I think you actually outbid me on this very one Matt if this is the same one I’m thinking of. Anyways sent you a email. Also thanks for the video, it was done well.
I'm not sure exactly how it would work. But you should collaborate with Andertons. (music shop) I mean you're in the same town and it would unite two of my otherwise rather different CZcams tastes! ;)
iv got a very similar sword.... but someone.... modified it(to put it nicely) & although the blade is good the guard dose not quite match up with the blade & the handle has epoxy on it near the end on the... idk ball? of the grip? just before the pommel end.... BUT the thing is the fuller on the blade goes the full length except for about a 1/2' section at the guard end. i was told it was a "naval saber" guess i should have paid more attention to what the guy i bought it off said but i liked the blade & it was put together well enough to do some drills & the like so i liked it & bought it... just don't really know what kind of sword it Actually is lol.
Actually, I recently discovered that in China, police style use medieval weapons want the situation is too serious. For example, they use two handed morning star the size of a poleaxe called lang ya bang, they also use shield and truncheon, only the are two times as long and heavy as those you shown, I also seen them use Satsuma, a Japanese weapon originating in the 14th century, or even earlier, a heavy two handed iron truncheon invented in the 13th century and finally I even saw a crossbow!?
That hanger looks like a beautiful home-defense weapon... It really looks like a good weapon for fights in buildings, but why did the police use hangers instead of sabres? I know from old Austrian paintings that cops had full sized sabres (looked like sidesword with a basic sabre hilt)
Excellent video. However I have a question that has nothing to do with it. It's not difficult to notice that backwards curved blades were a common sight throughout the world pretty much through all of history, including the example you've introduced in this video. But how (un)common were forward curved blades? You have quite a few videos about the Kukri (although one could argue that the design of the blade is more "angled" rather than "curved"), so I was wondering if you knew of any other examples of forward curved swords (or even pole-arms) or if there even was such a thing as double-edged curved blades?
Awesome sword, awesome vid, neat bit of history. As to "maybe not a bad idea" I think many in the hema community would agree with the spirit of the jest, given a lot of the wacky rules! (Note: I am not actually suggesting this, youtube, so don't forward my name to the FBI lol)
Very interesting video and very nice looking sword. While I normall prefer 3 bar sabers there's just something about this hanger that's very appealing, it looks like it would be a good sword for survival situations like a hypothetical zombie apocalypse. If I only had the money I would buy that sword in a heartbeat. I don't suppose that anybody makes any decent and reasonably priced (~$200 US) replicas?
You can pick up an antique one of these for about that price, a bit more for a rare nicer one like the one posted in this video. But they are still a surprisingly good bargain.
hey Matt many years ago when you made the Pewdiepie video you asked if he had any interest in swords, while in his new videos he has a military sabre leaning against his wall
So we can blame the Guildford Guy's for the Police to deploy their mean tempered horse's during rioting. If those Lancers hadn't come calling it might still be bobbies on foot chasing wrong un's with TV's under their arms. Very interdasting as always!
hey matt did you ever own a Dutch Klewang. I am curious how good they handle only the only repoduction I can find is the cold steel one who claims it is American even though it is basically just a blued reproduction.
I find the idea of not sharpening a sword ridiculous, except for training obviously. There is no gentle way to destroy and nothing good in combat except its ending with the least evil side victorious and as little actual damage done as possible. If you don't cut deep enough and have to cut again, it is more lethal and dangerous for everyone in the situation. Simply don't swing so hard, or use the flat/spine/pommel of the blade, or a non lethal tool, or bare hands. Let the lethal cutting tool BE what it is designed to be, or don't waste weight and space carrying it and tax money buying it.
"Maybe not such a bad idea." I'm not sure who I feel more sorry for: Matt who may have to deal with the draconian social policies of the modern met, or the poor clerk who would have to file the report of all the weapons found on site.
about movies. would you be willing to review the Last of the Mohicans final fight. I like the efficiency and speed of it without all the hollywood crap.
So are blades illegal now? What’s the legal situation? I’m bummed we stopped using swords in police enforcement, seems like you would get a deal more cooperation.
"tried to blow up parliament... maybe not such a bad idea" You've got to be careful making statements like that Matt. You're already on the watch list for being a sharp objects dealer.
To cut a long story short... **swings sword around**
More videos on Hangars please!! I’ve always found them and cutlasses so fascinating. Great video as always Matt.
I think he already has videos about hangers
LV427 I know, but I still want more.
I'm with you. I asked for the same about a month ago. I am really interested in hangers.
Yes please!
"You may talk o’ gin and beer
When you’re quartered safe out ’ere,
An’ you’re sent to penny-fights an’ Aldershot it;"
In the US there are types of firearms holsters that are designed to make it harder for someone else to steal a police officer's pistol. I guess if it was a good idea for swords it was a good idea for firearms.
Not just in the U.S.
I assumed in other places too, but I don't know which countries have armed police and which don't.
zaqzilla1 Pretty sure they have those holsters here in Sweden. I seem to recall it from my younger years when some cops visited our school and talked about their work and showed us their guns.
Here the standard issue carry is the Sig Sauer P-series.
Really interesting sword, I like the retention system.
Matt, terrorists have been around for thousands of years. Please tell us more about your grandfather. Great video, thanks.
The English: putting safeties on everything from revolvers to swords
Garret LeBuis Embarrassing, perhaps, but certainly more impressive than shooting your load in your pocket
It is (or at least, used to be) common for police holsters in the US to have a mechanism that required a specific drawing motion to free the weapon, for very similar reasons. Weapon retention is important, even for generally competent people.
BrimleyAvatar Nowadays pistol retention holsters are divided into classes. Class 1 is passive retention, typically a strap or something similar, mainly to keep the pistol from falling out during vigorous activity. Class 2 is active retention, such as the button release on this sword, that requires deliberate action on the part of the user to release the firearm. Class 3 is both these systems working together in one holster.
Matt, can you do a video about the history behind the development of police forces and what systems of law enforement predated them? Granted, that's probably more of a Metatron-style video, but you could discuss it in the *context* of the types of weapons they used.
I've heard anecdotes about the American Cavalry during the Indian Wars that they had to start telling the troopers NOT to sharpen their sabers because fighting against the lightly equipped Native Warriors the blades tended to cut too deeply and get stuck in bone due to the lack of armour or protective clothing.
Despite the much heavier clothing worn in Northern Europe, would that perhaps also explain the use of unsharpened blades by Police?
The police didn't use them un sharpened, rather they were stored un sharpened, most military swords of the era were made with a not quite sharp edge, and sharpened when the specific soldier carrying it was to be deployed in an active war zone or otherwise expected to actually have need of it in the near future.
As a separate note, i would distrust those anecdotes, as we know of many cultures throughout history, including native americans themselves, that went into battle effectively naked usually against equally unarmored opponents and all of them sharpend their blades.
I'm impressed by the thickness of the spine. It's unusual on shorter blades like these to have such a strong spine, as there isn't a huge need for stiffness. It's a bit weird to chose a centered symetrical tip on a blade that curved, I find.
But comparing it to the 1831 gladius (which, during the period, was called "sabre d'infanterie" - which will probably drive an English person crazy) is not very relevant. By all standards, except manufacturing, the 1831 gladius was quite crappy and unfit for the job: heavier and lot less practical than a billhook as a tool, and also way shorter and less nimble than a briquet. A bad idea all in all. Also, it was exclusively a military implement, meant to combine a tool and weapon, I guess probably to reduce the number of elements in the military kit. It was unpopular, thus the "cabbage chopper" nickname. When it was adopted by other "troops" (national guard, military firefighters "sapeurs-pompiers", etc), in 1855, they made it significantly lighter and more weapon-like, and much closer to an actual gladius. This version is known in French as "glaive de pompier", though it was mainly designed for the national guard.
That hanger has to be compared with the "briquet", precisely. As far as I know, the first real French briquet was adopted in 1767, as a grenadier's hanger to replace previous models of full-sized sabers, already with a cast brass grip, but that was becoming an hindrance in modern warfare. So they decided to make it shorter, more compact (flat single bar hilt), and cheaper to produce. The concept caught on quite well, so that it was a relatively commonplace piece of kit during the revolutionnary wars and Napoléon's campaigns, but it was still not issued to all troops, only to grenadiers (impressive tall guys with bearskins shakos), sometimes to voltigeurs (short athletic guys, agile light infantry), both flankers in marching and batte formation, but rarely, if ever, to fusiliers (basic infantry, only carrying the bayonet as close combat weapon).
Briquets went to live a long life even after the 1831 gladius was introduced as the by default sidearm for all the infantry, as it was still carried by the national guard, and all sorts of other guards. It came in a wide variety of blade styles. Here is my collection of briquets, and though some can be approximately dated (the two earliest at the bottom are from the revolutionary era), they can be anytime from about 1805 to 1850. All in all, they are all perfectly usable and decent. Some are really excellent, like the one with a hussar type of blade, wide, thin and well curved. As weapons, they are vastly superior to the 1831 gladius, by far. And the basic An XI/1816 pattern (the third from the bottom, the only one actually to pattern) also makes for a decent clearing tool, machete style (I've actually used it to carve my way into meters deep of brambles, it just requires a relatively specific technique of swinging it in large arcs, arm extended, without ever stopping):
i.imgur.com/7AvAo7Xh.jpg
An elegant weapon... for a more civilized age.
I wonder if Mr. Easton has ever read Terry Pratchett: the novel "Night Watch" in particular. In some form or other much of what he talks about here is included in some form in that book. From cavalry charges into rioters to the police training with various weapons. It uses a generally medieval fantasy setting, but a lot of recognizable Victorian era imaginings.
Cool topic to cover. Thanks for making historical weapon-related vids like this! Much appreciated.
Serendipity! Just last week I found out the 1900 Paris police all carried hangers normally, and was wondering how to find out more about police swords. The bicycle police in the big parks hung theirs on the frame just ahead of the seat.
I like these historical weapons series videos. I especially feel like I absorb the information better when I revisit them later and watch them end on end.
As an ex - policeman, I would like to learn more. Great video as usual. Thanks Matt.
About the french glaive, it was also a fireman « pompiers de Paris » sword (a slighty différent version with pierced quillons ).
Ad Roy - The "glaive de pompier" or "glaive de cantinière", as it is known, was carried by all sort of sorta military troops that weren't going to use it much, mostly the national guard. Since the 1831 is heavy as hell, they made it lighter. And frankly, it makes for a better weapon than the regular 1831, and at least it doesn't pretend to double as a tool. But so far, though I've many variants, I don't remember any with pierced quillions.
MadNumForce you are right, sorry and thank you for correction.
Oi, you got a loicense for that truncheon?
Just when I thought you could run out of stories someday. ☺
The frog button reminds me of Serpa holsters. I think the frog button is better designed, and swords don't shoot you when you fail to fully depress the button. Fantastic idea, I'd have one on my own sword as a civilian or private security since I value retention highly. I'll see if I can get one made for the scabbard of any long bladed swords I plan for practical use. Thank you!
Nice handy sword indeed.
More stories about the great-great-grandfather would be welcome
Please a video on the 1896 officer's cavalry sword :)
Super interesting video. We would all love to see more about police weapons
Beautiful sword in great nick.
You mentioned in your recent chainmail video, that quite a few of your viewers may not be experts on the subjects that you talk about. This is definitely true in my case. And if a significant part of your subs are like me, then I may have an idea for a video/video series you might want to make. And that is a video/videos explaining the names and terms for medieval or otherwise historical weapons, with pictures. Like: This is a bastard sword, they tend to look like this, defined as such, different from an arming sword, they look like this, this is a hanger, this is a rondel dagger, kukuri, mace, morning star, etc... It may be annoyingly basic to people who know much about these things, but I would find it very educational, with many of the (basic) differences explained in one video/video series. I realize as I am writing this that it may be a large undertaking, but is could be split up with weapon categories and spread out over time. Just an idea! Otherwise thanks for much great content, Matt!
Well, to start things off, there is no such thing as chainmail, it's just mail. Mail essentially means chain, so by saying chainmail you're basically saying chain chain. Likewise, there is defnitely no such thing as platemail, scalemail, etc., when referring to any other armor type just drop the mail at the end of it. So platemail becomes plate, or plate armor, or plate harness, scalemail is just scale or scale armor, or (to use the Roman term) lorica squamata.
Their are plenty of discussion boards online, the impetus is on you to go learn (thats half of the fun of the hobby). Also lots of differing opinions and arguing.
it's still a good idea for a series of videos for mat or someone to do ( i would watch it, i don't know everything and even if i know something a refresher in the context of other weapons is always interesting and entertaining ) ,, ps a lot of forums online are poison .full of egos , opinions ( rather than facts ) and bullshit ,, and sometimes not very newb friendly .. or fun
I'm working on a handout for the club I want to start docs.google.com/document/d/1JZ2-sFoE5kqajcThQ0A9XZPrUbfJFhqFpd4qk4F3NH4/edit?usp=sharing
well... more or less matt has such videos just... they are not labeled & that's not the main point of them , as every time he shows us a sword/weapon as the main topic of a video (& often times wen they are not) he says what they are. But i believe you are correct, if he did a video or a few to cover the basics of all the terminology it would be quite useful even for those who know most of it.
Interesting, I googled "dynamitard" and couldn't find any real info. Only a dictionary definition as an archaic term for a "political dynamiter" (with "dynamiter" itself defined as "someone who uses dynamite, especially unlawfully") in wiktionary, taken from obsolete (and thus open source) copies of Webster's.
Are you planning on doing a video, because now I'm intrigued?
In italian there is the same term, dinamitardo,to refer to someone using explosives unlawfully. Kinda like arsonist is different from firemaker,a sapper or demolition expert is not called dinamitardo.
They're quick , balanced, and Matt's personal favorite he can flourish it inside without breaking things
I'd rather have a gladius than a saber in a prison or on a train. Much better for anti grappling. The saber would be a better street patrol sword, perhaps paired with a buckler for ease of carry and to keep the hands free and feet fast.
Guy Fawkes : The only man to enter Parliament with honest intentions. :) At least that's what English streets say.
I’d love to see a part 3 on the classic bobby helmet, or some other antique police kit. What kind of gear did mounted police use, for example?
Matt, do you know what the firearms that the British Police had in their Arsenals? I’d imagine that the 1858 Enfield Carbine would be a great fit.
It depends when you are asking about. Obviously different in 1860 than 1880 :-)
scholagladiatoria honestly, I’d listen to you talk about every one used in every decade of the 19th century haha
Bröther, do a review on the Boar Vessel, 600-500 BC, Etruscan, Ceramic
noice
Oh god! Is there no escape from this meme!?
I enjoyed the story about how lancers were used for riot control. great video!
We in US even know who Guy Fawkes is, thanks to the film "V for Vendetta" if not out of historical curiosity. Love that hanger regardless. Would love to have that, especially with the accompanying manual in my collection. Cheers Matt!
I seriously wish my katanas come with that spring-button catch!
I have a friend who has managed to find a few teachers sticks. Rare that any have survived. Cool mini weapons.
12:46 woah mother of all stutters! Nice save though.
You are not allowed to blow up the Palace of Westminster (the Houses of Parliament) because it is a Grade I listed building and a UNESCO World Heritage Site. Also, Guy Fawkes plotted to blow up the Old Palace, which burned down in 1834, not the current buildings.
Matt did you ever get around to making the video about your ancestor and the terrorist? If not, I'd love to hear about it.
Very cool! I can’t wait to hear more. Have a police cutlas too & I am Edgar to learn more
Interesting to see the retention device in the scabbard. It is much like pistol holsters used in law enforcement agencies here on the States today.
Very interesting. Modern police side arm holsters also have a retention system. Don't want your lethal weapon to come into play when you are subduing a suspect.
My dad has one of these swords, the scabbard is missing the attachments and I don’t remember his being copper coloured, more of a dark metal.
The handle was a grey snake/reptile/crocodile skin, I always like that, but it does seem a bit weird.
I just saw the next video, it’s a shagreen grip.
They should start using these again.
"maybe not such a bad idea" i need to see a matt easton mask with the guy faux mustache and rasey cheeks
I'd love it if you could do a video on the London Defence Scheme, especially seeing as Reigate Hill Fort is close to you and has been restored.
When will you be doing a video on the swords and truncheons of the Ankh-Morpork City Watch? After all, you cannot ignore the arms of such a storied institution!
Lol. Gilford Guys, it made me think like the Gilmore Girls. But it’s slightly different... 😏🤣
Do you think they carried police hangers in Terry Pratchett's "Night Watch" ?
Trying to make reproductions of Discworld swords.
Elegant sword ! Was this retention system ever adopted in the army ?
I thought a Baldric was a Black Adder companion.
Matt did police officers, especially of higher rank and status, use these cutlasses/hangers too or maybe some other, more decorative style of swords?
They tended to carry swords modeled on Army officers' swords for dress occasions.
I have one higher rank police hanger, it is certainly fancier than those used by the constables, but not terribly fancy, it has a few extra bars on the guard for example. If really fancy versions exist will certainly try to get one.
@@scholagladiatoria : A longer time ago i visited , Wehrgeschichtliches Museum' in Rastatt/ Germany. Some time before my visit, there was an exhibition of german police edged weapons. In the catalogue(?) i could read, that in imperial Germany the troopers had simple, but robust weapons, low rank officers had a lighter, but still useable saber, while high rank officers, which are like in our days, rarely in ,frontline' often had smallswordlike edged weapons. Perhaps this helps.
I love it how he doesn't even comment about the cat being used as a missile in that old print. Maybe that's just something that they still do on a Friday night in Guildford. No big deal. Why wouldn't you throw a cat?
One of my favourite swords, I have a couple as well. I think you actually outbid me on this very one Matt if this is the same one I’m thinking of. Anyways sent you a email. Also thanks for the video, it was done well.
Damn cavalry lancers really did work.... they mopped the floor with them street gangsters.
I'm not sure exactly how it would work. But you should collaborate with Andertons. (music shop) I mean you're in the same town and it would unite two of my otherwise rather different CZcams tastes! ;)
I think you'll find that the 'Guildford Guys' are a boy band. They are going to be huge.
Lancers...for the win!
0:48 Her name is Victoria
I would think labour disputes resulting in strikes would bring out the police in force with hangers.
Interesting. I’ve got a Japanese katana in WWII mountings that has exactly the same button lock system on the blade as this does.
'Cleared out the rioters' LMFAO
Isn't issuing non-sharpened swords a bit like issuing revolvers without ammo? I'd imagine if it's bad enough to carry these, you'd want them to cut.
Wow, Guildford has certainly changed.
I really enjoyed the video greeting from Texas .
Matt. Any idea why some are brass and others steel?
why would i hang a frog from my sword belt??? 5:35
have you ever seen a version of the police cutlass with a pipeback blade and engraving?[just picked up a "beater" or project lol]made by robert mole?
Remember,remember, the fifth of November...
iv got a very similar sword.... but someone.... modified it(to put it nicely) & although the blade is good the guard dose not quite match up with the blade & the handle has epoxy on it near the end on the... idk ball? of the grip? just before the pommel end.... BUT the thing is the fuller on the blade goes the full length except for about a 1/2' section at the guard end. i was told it was a "naval saber" guess i should have paid more attention to what the guy i bought it off said but i liked the blade & it was put together well enough to do some drills & the like so i liked it & bought it... just don't really know what kind of sword it Actually is lol.
Actually, I recently discovered that in China, police style use medieval weapons want the situation is too serious. For example, they use two handed morning star the size of a poleaxe called lang ya bang, they also use shield and truncheon, only the are two times as long and heavy as those you shown, I also seen them use Satsuma, a Japanese weapon originating in the 14th century, or even earlier, a heavy two handed iron truncheon invented in the 13th century and finally I even saw a crossbow!?
That hanger looks like a beautiful home-defense weapon...
It really looks like a good weapon for fights in buildings, but why did the police use hangers instead of sabres? I know from old Austrian paintings that cops had full sized sabres (looked like sidesword with a basic sabre hilt)
Very interserting, thanks for the video !
Excellent video.
However I have a question that has nothing to do with it. It's not difficult to notice that backwards curved blades were a common sight throughout the world pretty much through all of history, including the example you've introduced in this video. But how (un)common were forward curved blades? You have quite a few videos about the Kukri (although one could argue that the design of the blade is more "angled" rather than "curved"), so I was wondering if you knew of any other examples of forward curved swords (or even pole-arms) or if there even was such a thing as double-edged curved blades?
Sort of like a French Briquet Sword. P.S. With you ever do a video on the French Briquet Sword ?
I have seen one of these for sale some where but it had a steel hilt and an engraved blade is this something that they did in the colonies?
Steel hilted ones are quite rare and sought after.
So it has what in would be known in pistoleer terms as a level 2 scabbard?
So that scabbard is basically a 19th century Serpa... Although it appears to work, so the analogy isn’t perfect.
Is that the same mole who make the grips (not sword grips, mole grips)
would these have been the sort of swords used in Peterloo?
That was damn interesting. Thank you for your work.
Awesome sword, awesome vid, neat bit of history.
As to "maybe not a bad idea" I think many in the hema community would agree with the spirit of the jest, given a lot of the wacky rules!
(Note: I am not actually suggesting this, youtube, so don't forward my name to the FBI lol)
Truck? I thought Great Britain only had lorries.
Very interesting video and very nice looking sword. While I normall prefer 3 bar sabers there's just something about this hanger that's very appealing, it looks like it would be a good sword for survival situations like a hypothetical zombie apocalypse. If I only had the money I would buy that sword in a heartbeat. I don't suppose that anybody makes any decent and reasonably priced (~$200 US) replicas?
You can pick up an antique one of these for about that price, a bit more for a rare nicer one like the one posted in this video. But they are still a surprisingly good bargain.
That's good to know, I'll have to look around then. Thanks.
Glad to know British police could actually do their job at some point in time.
I think we need to know more about the dyanamiters. Now please.
Matt so yes they were called truncheons but why so often in america do i hear the term "billy club" used?
hey Matt many years ago when you made the Pewdiepie video you asked if he had any interest in swords, while in his new videos he has a military sabre leaning against his wall
Were intentionally blunt weapons ever used in Europe (not for training), like the Japanese Tekkan?
So we can blame the Guildford Guy's for the Police to deploy their mean tempered horse's during rioting. If those Lancers hadn't come calling it might still be bobbies on foot chasing wrong un's with TV's under their arms. Very interdasting as always!
hey matt did you ever own a Dutch Klewang. I am curious how good they handle only the only repoduction I can find is the cold steel one who claims it is American even though it is basically just a blued reproduction.
I find the idea of not sharpening a sword ridiculous, except for training obviously. There is no gentle way to destroy and nothing good in combat except its ending with the least evil side victorious and as little actual damage done as possible. If you don't cut deep enough and have to cut again, it is more lethal and dangerous for everyone in the situation. Simply don't swing so hard, or use the flat/spine/pommel of the blade, or a non lethal tool, or bare hands. Let the lethal cutting tool BE what it is designed to be, or don't waste weight and space carrying it and tax money buying it.
Police today still use retention holsters.
How thick is the spine of this piece? Weight? Looks very robust. (Crowbar with an edge?)
what is the etymological root of hangers?
So, silly stupid question right. Imagine austronuts fighting with swords on the moon or something...
"Maybe not such a bad idea."
I'm not sure who I feel more sorry for:
Matt who may have to deal with the draconian social policies of the modern met, or the poor clerk who would have to file the report of all the weapons found on site.
about movies. would you be willing to review the Last of the Mohicans final fight. I like the efficiency and speed of it without all the hollywood crap.
So are blades illegal now? What’s the legal situation? I’m bummed we stopped using swords in police enforcement, seems like you would get a deal more cooperation.