Engines of Union Pacific Episode 3, The GP35 and DD35 (outdated episode)
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- čas přidán 26. 09. 2019
- Welcome to the third episode of Engines of Union Pacific. Today we talk about the GP35 and DD35 locomotives. Remember this series is inspired by engines of Septa by Thunderbolt 1000 Siren Productions and engines of Amtrak by AmtrakGuy365. Anyways, I hope you enjoy.
Warning, there may be some black screen errors here and there because this video was uploaded right off my editing software and so it made a few mistakes here and there but try to look beyond that.
Enjoy! - Zábava
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To anyone that is reading this comment, this episode is now going to be considered outdated due to the bad information being given. A remastered version is planned to be made in the future. After the remastered version is released this, this episode will still be up on my channel but will be marked as Outdated.
Remake this vid
He said in the future so that means later on.
Don't worry I hope we can remember the way for locomotives.
Pretty informative, but build some confidence man! Your so close to the old 1970s documentaries but you just miss it with that hesitation. Keep practicing!
Yes definitely
A script would help
Pretty sure its a speech impediment. He just needs to edit the audio to make it flow smoother.
Nice video, very informative. I've watched 3 episodes so far, but one thing I do suggest is practice speaking before uploading. The hesitation throws me off personally, I don't know about anyone else. Not trying to say this to be mean, but I'm saying this as constructive criticism. like I said, it's still a good video!
This video has been a big help to me, in researching the UP DD35A's and DD35B's (cabless version), as I'm currently building my own HO Scale replica's of both versions.
Railroad Tycoon II music :)
Thx for this interesting video series. I didnt understand anything to US locs until then.
Fascinating !
23:36 this could make a real man cry after extinct locomotive after being famous and didn’t make it to museums
I know. Somebody should make graves for locomotives.
It should be noted that the UP also had 10 SD-35 (special duty) locomotives with 2 C-C 3 axle trucks installed. The 567 engines that were installed in the GP/SD-35's were at their mechanical limit at 2500 Hp. It's successor, the 645 engine, had larger diameter cylinders (9-1/4") than the 567 (8-1/2") allowing it to be made with higher horsepower ratings. These went into the DD-40AX Centennials in pairs giving the engine 6600 horsepower total for both engines. the GP/SD-40's used this engine at 3000Hp and was a huge success for EMD.
The expression "and not to mention" always cracks me up, since the narrator invariably DOES MENTION whatever it was they were alluding to in the first place.
One way or the other, this was a great vid and I appreciated it.
Regardless of some tech features not being correct, it was still a great video. Thanks very much!
I think they should have preserved at least one of them. Sad they are gone. Loved the Vid BTW!
Man I love the steamer smashing through @ the start.., that must be 350-400 tons +… the kinetic energy is just amazing…, what a beautiful blast as well.. 😍😍🙏
Man miss me old Loco Dad, cab rides… took control of 2000 ton at 13 yrs age.. the two of them sat n let me bring it into yard approaches…🌹🌹🌹 RIP
Took me quite some time to recognize the differences between GP38s, GP40's, etc, with the GP35.
The GP 30 and GP35 were shorter by three feet, than the later Geeps. Also, the middle roof fan is of a lower profile than the other two.
From what I read, the GP35 was a highly regarded unit. Twenty five hundred horsepower was awesome for it's time. General Electric had built a good unit in the U25B, and EMD needed something to match it. They felt the '"35" was a better match, horsepower-wise, than the GP30.
OMG! Was just watching this vid and the pic at 25:32 IS MINE! , WOW! Where did you get that from, I posted it on the forum I was a Moderator on, Big Blue Trains. Neat to see it in your vid, but shocked to see it. BTW, that engine many of of modelers consider a DD35, but its really an old Athearn Blue box engine they title DD40, it was made from early plans EMD had that never came to be.
-Deano
It was just picture that I found when I searched up DD35 Model train. I'm glad that you noticed that picture was yours because most of the pictures I use are just random pictures I find for the videos. But I'm glad to use your picture for this video.
@@ottomatic6432 , Glad you liked it enough to post it! The real shocker was that pic was taken about 10-12 years ago on a shelf layout I had in the apartment I was living in at the time. Cheers!
@@Iver-pr1wo Huh, 10-12 years. That's long a time. Well either way, Cheers.
This vid deserves likes also do dda40x
The GP35 cab style was called the Spartan Cab. The GP30 hump was to house all the new electronics (30 new improvements as how it got that designation).
The 35 series EMD's were the last of the 567 motor design, DC direct current drive, which dated from the 1930's. In the mid 60's the 645 motor coupled with an AC alternator proved to be a winner, the 38 and 40 series! By the 90's the 710 motor came out and differs not much from its predecessors.
Is there any reason for all the different types of air horns? I don't think any of your videos have repeated the same horn on all these locomotives.
Did you use the unstoppable sound track at about 29 minutes
what will the next episode be about?
i love the horn on the GP35 it sounds so good
I remember these locomotives I also remember them long ago along with E9 locomotives and F7 units
After you do the U30 and U30C, can you do the EMD GP15-1, GP38-2, GP40-2, and GP60?
You should also Do "Engines of Southern Pacific"
If you go over the GE C44-9W later in this series. Are you going to go over the ones UP purchased originally (9700-9739) only or include the ones they gathered up over the mergers of the Southern Pacific and the Chicago and Northwestern?
Tractive Effort, a measure of pulling ability, is measured in "pounds force" (lbsf), not in "pounds per square inch", which is a measure of pressure. It is a combination of locomotive weight and wheel/rail friction coefficient and the max power rating of the axle motors.
I half watched/ half listened, very informative.
Daaaaaaaaammmm! Those horns got me.
RIP DD35A’s & DD35B’s
@The Life of Joshua I know. It’s really sad.
Idiots don't know the value of these Marvellous Locomotives! So they've thrown them away and scrapped! Very sad video and much sad ending to the Beautiful DD35 Locomotives!
:(
Should do an video on all the different engines UP has mothballed in the dessert
I'm just going the way I want to do the series, ok?
What do you think has more horses power GP 35 or the SD 70 ACe?
I feel bad for all the DD35 units. The fact that none of them were preserved is really sad.
Makes you wonder, with a wheel base spread that was longer and seemed to be a problem, I don't get it because steam locos had a longer wheel base spread and we never hear of those being a problem.
Man, I wish UP was smart to preserve the DD35 and DD35a. It would've allowed more models to be made and more memories to be made, standing alongside one in some park would be enough to satisfy me. I'm a really big fan of these giants, but I wish they had preserved at least 1 in heritage service or at Cheyenne Wyoming in the roundhouse next to the DD40.
RIP DD35 1965-1980, you will always be remembered.
Emd needs to bring one back for the Illinois rr museum
Are you still working on the U50/U50C episode?
@Emmanuel Boi oh. That sucks
Long live the EMD/GMD F40PH/F40PHR diesel locomotive's.
Bro, I think I know love the DD35 Loco.
We do NOT shunt here in America! Shunting means to slam a car to move it into a spot and let the buffers or another car stop it. We switch cars. Switching is to spot a car at a location uncouple and set the hand brake (if needed). In a hump yard, the cars are went over a hump, down the hill, retarders slow the cars as the enter the selected tracks. The cars slow just enough to come to a gentle stop or couple to another car. this is not shunting.
Not the first famous locomotive scraped. The 119 & Jupiter now are replicas, the original locomotives were scraped. The original PRR 7002 with an unofficial speed record of 127.1mph was scraped by mistake, the current 7002 is a replica.
Very cool.....you know I really don't care about real trains TO BE HONEST....just model trains, however my father was text book info....I think I remember him telling me BN got some UP GP35s when he was working there, that were rebuilt to dash 2 status bring them to GP39Ms. I wish I could ask him....I think he said they were MK rebuilt.
Just found this channel - not bad. I would mention that the correct title should be "LOCOMOTIVES of the Union Pacific" - the "engine" is that diesel prime mover under the long hood that drives the generator. The GP35 was pushed up to 2500hp to match the early 1960s offerings from General Electric and Alco (still a player then). The prime mover and the electrical system were pushed up to their limits so GP35s sometimes had maintenance issues. Most GP35s that survive in service today are often rebuilt with later components. UP didn't see the need to spend a lot of money rebuilding an "old" locomotive and after the MoPac merger brought in a large fleet of newer B-B locomotives the GP35s were sent to scrap. The DD units were odd monsters and railroading changed during their service lives. Pool power and run through trains became common and the DD units were just too big and odd so other railroads didn't want them in shared service. The big guys were limited to service on UP only. DD35 was intended to only be a booster unit with the DD35 placed between two GP35s, the set giving the effective traction of FOUR GP35s. By the way, UP bought the four-unit demenstrator set from GM (shown in orange and white in some of your slides). UP 762 was at the top of the roster but was actually the FIRST GP35, along with UP 763.
By the way, the problems with GP35 reliability is one reason that UP shied away from buying the GP40 for its own use. The SD40 type ended up being the genesis of UP's modern locomotives.
I have my model GP35 sitting next to me while i'm watching this
Yea, I'm pretty sure these engines had occasional electronic and mechanical issues.
Love the black screen
What is the name of the train simulator that you use sometimes in your videos?
It's just called train simulator.
@@ottomatic6432 do you think you could give me a link to the game? I’ve been trying to find it for ages, and it all I get is train sim 2021
@@thatoneguy611 that’s it my guy. Train Simulator 2021.
I love the Amtrak F40PH locomotive's. And am very sad that most of them are long gone.😭😭😭😭😭😢😢😢😢😢
They're not fully gone, some of them now work as NPCUs, even as freight locos.
@@nofrankrelax6593 I know that. Lol!!!
@@nofrankrelax6593 Not to mention a majority of them still operate with commuter and tourist railroads until the Chargers replace them
All of us are sad, but about 20 of them were turned into NPCU’s, and have the prefix of the number “90” in front of the original number. (Except 406).
@@joshbrony2204 Lol!!! Why didn't unit 406 get the number 90 in front of it's original unit number???
So short live span of these engines. Our EMD 661 G16's are still blasting around even though some of them are almost 60-70 years old
What bums me out is that all freight locomotives have the dda40x cab the other ones look better.
Were the GP35's turbo charged?
Never thought I'd become a RailFan... but here I am sad to hear about an Extinct Locomotive 🥺. And. I think you should... Do whatever you want to. Thanks.
Sad to see that so many railroads never preserved history in saving locomotives. Perhaps the Pennsy was the worse. Railroad accomplishments, that built this nation and too many roads saw nothing but scarp value, forget about history!
Really, think about it. The railroads got a few penny's on the dollar investment, so as an economic move, scrapping such locos, made little sense, compared to that worth of historical value.
Too bad no DD35s are preserved. Much like the 4500 turbines, which were great back in their day, also
If these were around still, i feel like brazil would purchase some or these and maybe rebuild the trucks into B-B narrow gauge trucks
Long locomotives like the DD35's make me think day and night because how can they take on sharp curves??
There is a lot of stress on the trucks that’s for sure.
I know they crash lol
That's why they were restricted to only certain areas of service.
Lateral slide bearings just like steam locomotives had.
r.i.p dd 35's :(
You specify tractive effort of the GP 35 in "pounds per square inch". That unit would work for pressure, certainly not force, which tractive effort is.
They had S3Ls and probably old cast P3s. The RS3L wasn't made untill the late 70s
Fs in the chat for the DD35s and DD35As
The Athearn HO model of a DD35 was actually a model of a DD40, which only existed as a hollow carbody on a DD35 frame, thete were never any DD40 double locomorives ever ordered, being Athearn made they ran very wellb I had 3 of them.
DD40 exists as the DDA40X in technicality
Please do DDA40X and the 2-8-0 Harriman Consolidation.
Of the '35 series were 10 SDP35 (with steam gens) for pass. service. Also, this episode should be redone due to numerous blank spots, video and sound. This series would be better if you didn't make it sound like a death memorial.
Now that I look at this again, I wanna redo this episode. I've been putting series aside for right now because I need to do my research on a bit better. I don't know when I'll make the next episode.
SCL and L&N.
I saw them both.
There's 1 in Dallas Texas Museum of the American Railroad !
When is episode 4 coming out ?
It’s not coming back for some time if ever
the gp35 and other models like it the cabs called spartan cabs
Wow, two minutes in before he gets on topic. That intro could have been 15 seconds, tops. Is the production assistant being paid by the minute?
why does the screen go black while your talking at times
That was because I tried uploading the video to CZcams from the editing software and it didn't process completely unfortunately and so the video parts that have a sudden black screen, that's a process error. I don't do that anymore though. I make the videos their own files first and then I upload them.
Is it possible to restore a dd35
Does anyone know why UP stopped ordering their diesels with silver painted trucks decades ago?
Maybe because it didn't seem to fit the scheme or maybe it was light blinding for some may be because it kept coming off since silver paint doesn't stay on for that long and has to be reapplied a lot. To be honest, I don't really know. Maybe ask Union Pacific themselves.
Greg T. Silver paint is expensive and does not wear well. The Harbor Mist Grey is already on the top of the locomotive so it works well for the trucks and fuel tanks plus it’s more durable.
Why doesn't someone do the NYNH&H Locos. There's a great variety of styles there.
I wish Kato would do Metro North/LIRR locos in N scale
@@KatoOnTheTrack1 there are C420's available in both road names.
2 years no e4
Commonly known as the standard cab.
CZcams -> Settings -> Playback Speed -> 1.25 -> no longer sounds like he is asleep
You think it's weird that UP didn't get some DDM45 units from EMD? Sure, they all were for E. F. Vitória a Minas, but they still were from EMD.
I don't know what those are, but I guess.
@@ottomatic6432 They were an 8-axle version of the SD45, I think.
@@virginiarailfannoah5415 Interesting
@@ottomatic6432 I know, right? It'd be cool to see them in the U.S.
The DD45m are meter gauge locomotives. The 4 axle trucks were needed as EMD could not fit the SD45's regular traction motors between a meter gauge wheelset. EMD ended up using a smaller traction motor. And to apply the power to the rail used 4 smaller traction motors.
Are you still doing Engine Of Union Pacific?
@Emmanuel Boi oh ok!
@Emmanuel Boi OK who is doing the series?
My city’s name is Mexico
Where is the U50
3:28 This is an automobile engine!
Yeah, had one in my Camaro lmao
What about the one from Mexico
0:07 pause and look
i love the dda40x and dd35 music video have you see the video
26:00
Name of the music...?
You should see it in the credits of the video. It's should say something from Minecraft.
Please use a script for your voiceover.
I call BS! There’s one in Pomona at the fairplex and UP has one in the heritage fleet! Never mind, those are DDA 40s
Great info! Maybe it's just me but please stop with the blank screens during narration. It is hard to listen to you and look at a blank screen.
Look those blank screen are render mistakes and I didn't want to bother having to wait for it to process and render again. I'll try to make sure that this doesn't happen.
What about the DD35A OR DD40AX lmao
Sorry. Couldn't stick for the entire feature. Your narration sounded like you might fall asleep, too.
Don't worry about it. When I look at this, it actually makes me cringe myself. I might redo this episode.
Only 2 Centennials were preserved....
Wrong, dude. Correct answer: 13
@@ottomatic6432 13? i think they are still around i wish you could make more engines of UP including the engines in present
why not do one on the UP-Series Steam Locomotive AKA UP 9000s since they were the big boy before the 4000s were a sketch on the drawing board also people seem to believe the 9000 was 100%, trash which it was not a fail. it became the test locomotive and platform for many things like Rotary blowers and other equipment that was either never used again, forgotten about or overlooked just because it is a 4-12-2 that normally went 50 doing nearly the same work as a singular big boy if not more at times due to it is built in 1926-1930s(I know I ramble on but CZcamsrs attack it because of its one major flaw although it never gave it any problems when it steamed here to California alone with some freight without problems in 1956).
I will do that but first I want to get the diesels done first.
@@ottomatic6432 sounds good to me maybe try doing the DD40s or the F Series to work on the Diesel section
@@TheAviatorB I will do the DDA40X's in one of the episodes.
Good information but for the future, try and minimize pauses and try to avoid repeating things. This is not meant to offend you in any capacity, I just think it would help longterm to keep that stuff to a minimum.
It's not my fault that these episode are so long. I just don't know how to keep them down to a minimum. Sometimes they need to be longer.
OttoMatic I don’t mind the length
OttoMatic sometimes a long video is good I would just add additional facts such as any wrecks it was in, Wheel arrangement, Railfan Nick-names etc.
@@ironhorsehistorian9871 Listen, it's just how I make the videos, okay? It's my series and I'm gonna keep doing it the way I am. Not to be mean or anything, okay?
OttoMatic uh... ok? I was not my intention for you to take it personally.
Turbans roflmao
Heart the negative comments too bro. It shows people you have thick skin.
turd sandwich no migga
A little too dramatic and your fade outs are a little too long I kept thinking there was something wrong with my TV. otherwise it was pretty good
there is good info in this video. but it is really let down by the delivery. write yourself a script. go over it a couple times to refine it. then do the voiceover and stick to the script. you'll get there!
You really need to write a script and read it. You sound like you are rambling and that is a BIG distraction from the info you are trying to relay.
Eh, what are gonna do though. The next episode might have an improvement on that.
I agree. The narration is crap.
Hey dude I love your channel but in this one your kinda like that kid that can’t read good from the movie Billy Madison. “Ta Ta Todayyy junior!!”. It’s not a jab at you, I’m just playing around. You did a great job narrating the turbine video you made.
give me a model 35 for genral purpose
diesels are best cool
Tractive effort is not a psi rating, you have done it in a few videos
How do I tell what the tractive effort is?
OttoMatic Tractive effort is usually referred to in pounds of force. Different from pressure in pounds of pressure per square inch, which is why psi is wrong. For example, the UP Big Boy produces 131,000 pounds of tractive effort, but not 131,000 psi.
The number is correct, just the units are wrong. It’s putting 65k of drawbar pull, not 65k psi of drawbar pull
Sycamore Valley Shops Did I get it wrong too? If so thanks for correcting me
Blackbird Gaming your correct
Very fricken long though. Your dialogue is also more wordy than it needs to be.