1:01:30 In the ps2 version, this guy in the locker is making loud crazy banging and breathing sounds. Maybe they changed it for the PC version? Or maybe it was some glitch... I agree that silence would have been an eerie spin on that scene, but that's not how it was originally.
I have to disagree with you about the SH3 story not being as deep as SH2's. SH3 is about the process of a teenage girl becoming a woman. It's about the inherent fears young women can have about fear of adults (the cult), coming of age, adulthood, sexuality, loss of innocence, pregnancy, giving birth, being taken advantage of, and being alone. You can really see Heather's transformation as a character as the story progresses, and by the end of the game, she is a fully complete (after uniting with her other half), fully capable, independant woman, finally able to go her own way in life, and live free of the cult (the adults that took advantage of a young defenseless girl, and broke her trust in them).
Hey, thanks for watching! Respect the disagreement, each to their own. I've heard Tangomushi's video is really good on the story side of things (coming from a female point of view) - she's great, highly recommend watching it.
I agree with you. SH3 always affected me most because I'm a woman with a lifetime of abuse. Growing up female was like my own personal Silent Hill. I LOVE SH2, but it doesn't have that extra layer of fear in being able to relate to the trauma of it.
I think that's the point though. That's why the original games have very specific types of individuals. Some people have experienced those things and others haven't. As a man, I couldn't even begin to imagine some of the hardships some women face. I've had a lot of female friends growing up and been horrified by some of the stories I was told. For me though, James resonates more. Not just because he's male either. I've experienced what it's like to love someone, yet simultaneously hate them. Also wishing you could go back and try again. I will say though, the aspect I enjoyed most about SH2 was because of that. It's a very human failing. Then again, you could claim Heather's nightmares stemmed from that very same concept if you'd take away all the intrigue around the cult.
I love both separately, SH2 trauma because I relate to James wife for the fear that my chronic illness will one day take that happiness away from me and that'll inevitably be my future honestly--ill die in the hospital due to it and I'll never be happy. If I ever get someone they'll be miserable because of me. I love SH3 exactly because of Heather and her coming of age story essentially. As a woman, she's a beautiful character and she truly is a strong character and a wonderful teen to woman teacher.
One of my favorite little details about SH3 are Harry’s notes you can find which he used as a save points in the first game. When I connected two and two that his motivation for writing notes “saving” was so that it might help any others in his situation and the notes in the same location in SH3. I went nuts. It was such an amazing callback to the previous game. It was placed so subtlety and naturally. It’s such a minor detail and makes it that much more endearing. I loved finding remnants of Harry (and what he wrote) as Heather has to navigate the same hellscape.
It’s crazy that the Silent Hill Trilogy is 20 years old now. I was a toddler when the game’s originally came out and vaguely remember seeing ads in game informer and at GameStop for this game. What a classic. Akira’s soundtracks have aged like fine wine as well, let’s hope we get a whole trilogy remade for 4k.
@@BadGhosts I wholeheartedly agree, just the first 4 being re-released would make everyone hyped and excited! We could only dream though cause i doubt Konami will ever do that Lol.
@@markmendoza3579 Agreed, Silent Hill 1 is a classic that aged like milk (Graphically) lol but I understand people like the old 90s look in some games.
I've rewatched your Silent Hill 2 video more than a few times, I find it super comforting for some reason. I remember even watching it a few days after my grandmas passing and for 2 hrs I was able to escape from the situation so I *greatly* appreciate that video. I've been HOPING for a Silent Hill 3 one and I'm sooooo happy it's here!
I'm so sorry for your loss - it really means a lot to know that something I made could offer some comfort or escape after something like that. Thank you for sharing.
I do think it's interesting around 30:00 he notes that a 'ghost' pushes Cheryl into the subway "just to mess with her" for "no other reason", while a different CZcamsr, whose a woman, has pointed out the theme of stalking this game and how as women we have a looming fear of being stalked and how common it is to be stalked. The person in the subway isn't some ghost, it's one of the stalkers that has been plaguing Cheryl, following her around and tormenting her. From the Detective that wont leave her alone to the man in the hospital leaving her suggestive notes, the presence of being watched is constant. Great video overall, I just found that really interesting, the two viewpoints especially from a man's viewpoint who hasn't gone through or doesn't have the same fears a teenage girl might have.
Hey - thanks for watching! Makes a lot of sense, honestly. If it's the one I'm thinking of (haven't watched it yet) I'm actually really glad Tango made that video - it's for that exact reason I specifically decided to not get into the more nitty gritty stuff with how Heather's body is used by the cult and the more explicit side of that. I'm glad to see a female creator discuss that side of things with a lot more insight and perspective. It didn't really feel like the sort of thing I could truly do justice.
@@BadGhostsI know it’s been a year but I believe both Tangomushi and a smaller channel called Eurothug4000 made the same statements around the game largely zeroing in on the fears of women.
I love your silent hill retrospectives to bits. I just love your editing, the way you word things and your narration in general. It’s obvious you’re very passionate about this and that makes these videos so pleasant to watch. Idk man these videos just hit hard
I always forget how hard the 80s aesthetics are when Heather is on the mall. Cafe aesthetics in SH are like a wrestler's introduction music, and Heather easily has the best. And she's the character who has it the worst.
This is probably my favorite of the Silent Hill games, ngl. I love Heather and how she acts throughout the game, given shes still a normal person, trying to survive another day. Shes a woman, but still holds her own in a fight and the game doesn't try to make her a Mary Sue. I also appreciate that different people can view the game in different ways depending on their experiences which is just, to me, shows the game is well made.
Your SH 2 video essay was incredible.. one of the best on CZcams thus far.. I'm looking forward to this review.. I never clicked so fast.. I still remember getting the soundtrack that came with the game..
i really feel like people dont give silent hill 3's story enough credit. the cult is kinda just the framing to tell the story of a young girl fighting over ownership of her own body against a society that literally views it as a mechanism for birth. it's also about this girl who, while already having a colorful personality, is learning about who she is and having to grow up fast in response to the world and people around her, or the lack thereof (RIP harry). there's this constant theme of people using her for their own ends. obviously, claudia and the cult are trying to use her to birth their god, but beyond that. vincent originally planned to kill her because her existence posed a threat to his way of life. douglas followed her around despite clearly making her uncomfortable (yes he had a job to do, but still. the only thing that gave him pause was entering the women's bathroom). even harry tried to make her into the daughter he once had, and at times considered ridding himself of her because of the emotional baggage that came with her. people jump into the deeper meanings of silent hill 2's characters and themes but for some reason don't always extend that same energy to silent hill 3, which is just sad!!
Yes, this story just hits different when you have been a teenage girl yourself. The stalking, the way people want to tell you what to do with your body...it's all too real for do many girls Heathers age. There definitely is a deeper meaning to the story than just " haha, spooky cult, scary monsters"
@@TheMissileHappy To be honest, this is exactly why I (at 57:23) mentioned that I wasn't going to get more into the way Heather's femininity is treated throughout the game. It's not to say that I don't acknowledge it, I even had an entire section scripted out at one point, but it soon became apparent that I wasn't speaking from a point of view that 100% understands. Instead, I chose to cover SH3 on a general basis rather than zero in on a subject I probably have no authority to be speaking on. Fortunately, Tangomushi has done exactly that - highly recommend checking her video out, it's been mentioned in the comments quite a few times now (and for good reason).
oh man what a wonderful video. the sound design of silent hill 3 actually freaked me out so much playing it for the first time i was constantly pausing and taking breaks it was making my skin crawl like nothing else. bless akira yamaoka for this. i really love that you talked about whether or not you actually enjoyed the game, this is probably my favourite game hands down ever but for sure it can be a miserable experience so it makes it hard to reccomend to people compared to silent hill 2 - both games have massive highs in different areas and are both so incredible. and god i love heather so much, she's probably one of my favourite characters from video games ever. thank you for making this video 😊🫶
You are justified. I also think SH3 is better. It got us out of the "everything is psychological, bro" into a world more similar to SH1 with paranormal elements, The Cult, reincarnation. We also got a more expressive and relatable protagonist (and the best of the series), Heather. And to top that, the soundtrack of this game is just outstanding (also the best in the series).
You're gonna hit it big. I remember watching Dante Ravioli back when he had a couple hundred views. Once Silent Hill really takes off again after 2R - these videos will get an influx of views.
The Silent Hill 2 vid made me finally buy a PS2 and this video finally made me want to play through some of these games in full for the very first time! Keep on doing what you’re doing Ghost Bro!
Your Silent Hill 2 retrospective is definitely my all-time favorite Silent Hill 2 analysis video. The way you conveyed your love, passion and care for the game and its story and characters in that video was truly remarkable and beats any other video covering the game for me. This video, despite the fact that SH3 is game you had a far less personal connection with, I still feel that you handled talking about the game very well. The editing is yet again very good, and you brought up and made clear the differences between SH2 and SH3 very accurately. I too agree that I prefer the characters and story of SH2, but that SH3 has the better feeling of horror, and a bigger sense of helplessness as the game seems to be toying with you at almost every turn. I do wish that despite the story of SH2 being more profound/less shallow than a so called "just another cult themed story that does not have much depth" - you would have talked about the potential and possible bigger underlying layers of Heather's character/psyche in relation to her version of the town and situation. I feel that there is a lot more to talk about than just her snarky/sharp attitude and definitely more to focus on when it comes to her own emotional and psychological issues that stem from the death of her father, lack of a mother figure, and that there is likely a reason for her "stranger danger" attitude. I do know that you briefly touched upon her mourning her father, and I do want to note that you beautifully depicted the contrast of the moments where Heather was focused on her hatred/revenge, had a moment of relief once the God was killed, and only *then* really started her mourning process/truly realized that she was repressing her sadness and grief, and that is something I definitely commend you for. But I feel that Heather's psyche is more complicated than that and there is more to be found. I feel the story tells a lot about womanhood as a whole and aims to bring a certain perspective on this topic, and shows topics such as the process of a woman going through different stages in a human life (teenhood to adulthood). It seems to touch on the dangers that come from simply being a woman, take the forced pregnancy topic, multiple stalking examples (stanley, random ghost watching her and pushing her on the tracks, the ominous and horrifying phone call), Heather's certain attitude towards any and all strangers that they should be avoided/almost disregarded in their entirety, because that is often what women are taught to do - and when you consider these elements I do feel that the story seems to be much more complex than just that surface level of "stop the evil cult that killed your father." Now I'm not saying that after watching your video, I believe *that* to be the gist of everything you've said/covered, because I know that you too have talked about this game at a much deeper level than just that. But I do think that certain elements, especially surrounding Heather's psyche and character, could have been covered more profoundly by taking a closer look at certain things, or just were not really talked about at all. Again, that is not to say that this video in any way shape or form is bad, or missed the mark. Yet again you've covered one of the mainline Silent Hill entries with such grace and have put down a super high quality video that any fan of the franchise can and will appreciate. I was just kind of secretely hoping that even with this game, you would have taken a closer look at the Characters' psyches/the fine details about them and what makes them tick. And I know that, to be frank, the only character that even stands a chance of undergoing such scrutiny and actually resulting in an interesting character profile, is Heather, as, like you said, other characters in this game can be quite bland/underwhelming. (Take Claudia, or Douglas since you indeed do spend too little physical time with him unlike Maria in SH2, leading in not feeling very connected to/with him) - but if the only character that would be talked about in this way would be Heather, that would still make for a very interesting video segment, especially gven the fact that not many people really seem to talk about her in such a manner, whereas with James, every single SH analysis video will. (Not as good as in your SH2 video though, might I add, haha ;b) In any case, the video was very enjoyable to watch and I was stoked to see that you had uploaded it. I would more than love to one day see that you uploaded a retrospective for Silent Hll 4, and hear your thoughts on that game. Take care and thanks for the effort yet again.
Hey there - thanks so much for such a detailed comment, and for the kinds words! I'll be completely honest, I agree on virtually all points - there are plenty of things I could have delved further into. If I had extended the video by another 30 minutes to an hour I would have probably done so, and I definitely would have been proud of those inclusions, but there was a ton of IRL stuff that went on in the background of the three months I spent making this video. It was honestly something of a miracle that I managed to finish the video in its current state, there was just way too much going on. Aside from that, I've also become super burned out with CZcams in general as well, so I'm taking an extended break from making reviews for at least a few months. I really don't know when the next video will be made, but I DO plan on covering Silent Hill 4. Thanks again for reaching out.
@@BadGhosts I completely understand. With that knowledge, I am glad to have been able to see the video as it is now. It would have been a shame to miss out on it, so the fact you were still able to release despite the circumstances it is great. I too have not uploaded anything to my channel in 7 months now, so feeling burnt-out from making (a certain type of) videos is very much real and valid. Perhaps one day, you can make a follow-up video on SH3 to cover anything you may think you should have/still can. And if not, then that SH4 will surely be a delight to watch, just as the other videos have been. I wish you a lot of luck and comfort in the coming time and we will all gladly see you back on your channel once you feel well enough and ready to make a return. We'll be patiently waiting, friend. -lustY
hey! i think your og silent hill 2 video was actually what got me into silent hill!! i’m really happy to see another video on what has since become my favourite game in the franchise :) great vid!!
1:04:50 when you feature the Borley Haunted Mansion. I don’t know how many others noticed so I hope you don’t mind my pointing this out. Vincent Price was a huge horror icon. He starred in RADIO dramas and tales of the supernatural. The voice here is not Vincent Price but that is how he talked. There are archives on CZcams offering many of his radio shows if you want to check it out. I don’t know when Mr. Price died but this is a wonderful nod to his early career in radio. I’m pretty sure he was in a movie called house on haunted hill, I could be wrong. So this might be nodding to that that as well. Either way it’s fun to notice. What do you think?
Here from the SH2 video, and I can say that you did a great job of "needing" about this amazing beautiful franchise. Now I think it's time for SH1 the OG needs it's respect and graduate. That game made Resident Evil look like a Halloween party (in a bad way).
I'm in the same boat as you. SH2 has this untouchable position in my pantheon of media giants that I sometimes forget just how excellent SH3 was. The symbolism of Silent Hill in this one is so thoughtful and just everywhere. I return to SH3 with reverence and excitement every year.
I was in my very formative years of life when I first encountered the franchise, and it was interactions with Silent Hill 3 that I almost exclusively experienced. While it scared me, it built up a mythological outlook on Heather, and the aesthetic of the town. When Silent Hill fell into general obscurity, it did for me as well. Aside from Silent Hill 3, the only other SH experience I had was a snippet in a game informer magazine for Downpour in 2010 or 2011. Then it disappeared to me. Roughly in 2020, when the Silent Hill DLC came to Dead By Daylight, I was introduced to DBD for the first time, and re-introduced to the world of Silent Hill, especially the third entry, its mythological status cemented in my mind. I proceeded to become obsessed with the franchise, consuming every bit of media surrounding the series that I could. I began to collect the games to play them to their fullest extent, replayed them, and replayed them again. I fell head over heels for Silent Hill, and it was Silent Hill 3 that captured me the most. It felt lost, gritty, and as rebellious as it was bloody. I still can’t place it, but Heather resonated with me on a personal level. I identified with her in such a deep and interpersonal way that she’s rapidly become my favorite fictional character of all time, and has only cemented her place there since then, despite the fact that I’m a guy. I identify with her so inexplicably strongly. It was my infatuation with the world of Silent Hill that encouraged me to experience more than I had before. Growing up, I was fairly exclusive to Halo. The combination of Silent Hill’s resurgence into gradual relevance, and Halo’s progressive downfall into terrible and mediocre releases, that made me receptive to new content. Silent Hill was my gateway into more horror games, getting me to actually play Resident Evil, and Dead Space. It made me aware of how deep and compelling Japanese horror could become, encouraging me to progress into more Asian content, like Ringu, and Sweet Home. Experiencing new content allowed me to get into other genres and games I hadn’t tried before as well, like Assassin’s Creed, Yakuza, and Elder Scrolls. There’s also that super fun Silent Hill mod for Fallout 4. You have managed to encapsulate my fascination and morbid passion in this video for Silent Hill 3 specifically. You’ve actually put into words many of my own thoughts for this game. How it is the world itself that attracts me so greatly. The story, the characters, it realistically would fall painfully short if they didn’t have the world, soundtrack, and atmosphere that it does. Combined, it makes a violent, aggressive, and terrifying world that at the same time is vaguely nostalgic, strangely comforting, yet oppressive and suffocating. Maybe I’m just weird, but Silent Hill 3 brings me a sense of comfort and security that other games simply can’t bring, not even Halo 2, previously my favorite game of all time, or Resident Evil 4 (original), a rising star in my catalogue of favorite video game experiences. The rebellious energy of Heather and the early 2000’s vibe, the horrific imagery of the Otherworld, the deeper psychological meaning, it all works flawlessly together. My love for this franchise has allowed me to influence my friends, many of whom originally saw the series as gross, edgy, and full of mindless violence. I’ve managed to educate them about the game on a deeper level, instilling an admitted appreciation for the series (though my friends are too scared to actually play it, electing to experience it vicariously through me instead). Long-winded rant in conclusion, thank you for this video. It was well-put, entertaining, and reflected many of my own thoughts and opinions on both this game, and the others surrounding it. I saw your Silent Hill 2 video when it came out two years ago relative to this one, and it was worth watching your entry on the third title. Keep up the good work, and thanks again!
Hey there - thanks so much for the comment and for watching! It's been amazing to see so many people resonate with these people, it makes all the work worthwhile. Silent Hill 2 is absolutely my comfort game so I don't think SH3 being one is weird at all.
Great video. I have to watch your SH2 video. Regarding the lack of screen time for the characters, it may have something to do with the "stranger danger" theme the game seems to convey. After all, Claudia, Vincent and even Douglas are just that : strangers. A bunch of unknown adults who want something from Heather, just like the Subway Ghost or the Hospital Stalker. And for the characters to remain strangers in our eyes, well the game can't say much about them or let us spend too much time with them.
Never touched the games when i was a kid. They came out when i was 9ish. So they scared the piss out of me. Watched my dad play though. BUT NOW I'm absolutely obsessed with them. Loving your deep dives❤
I've been watching a lot of Silent Hill retrospectives lately, because I find them fascinating. I think it's very interesting how gender can shape horror. Things you point out as senseless (example, the ghost pushing Heather onto the tracks) are very real and terrifying fears for women, and female CZcamsrs point to those scenes as the scariest ones. Not a dig at all, it's just very curious how society and gender can shape what's terrifying in very subtle ways. Really good video!
When these came out I was at an age where I couldn’t play scary stuff myself. My mom played through the games and I watched her. My first time truly playing myself was with the new game plus magical girl costume. To this day I have the soundtrack that came with our copy of the game memorized
Last I heard he's been doing pretty well for himself - he's been working a lot on animations and music on the rebranded Jordan Go To Sleep. All in all he seems to be pursuing what makes him happy, so it's something to be glad for :)
One of the best things about this game is the message of Fatherhood. Harry fighted monsters, a cult and a fake god because he loved his daughther so much he could give his own life. When Cheryl reicarnated, we can see on the notes that at first he wasnt sure of raising Heather, but then he comes to the conclusition that it doestn matter if that baby is his daughtger or not because that baby needs someone, and what's better than a man that will fight for you even if things get worse? And we can see in Heather that she Harry's fatherhood was perfect because Heather is a strong woman and how happpy she seems when she talks to him on the beginning. And by stoppimg the fake god again, she pretty much saved the world Then we have Claudia, who is the opposite on this situation, Claudia had an awfull father that abused her, giving her the desire of a world without suffering, and she refuses to let the past go. She thinks that Alessa will fix all of her issues so bad that she kills a man expecting that would help her. Her trauma is really sad, and i wonder if her having the same VA as Angela, who also suffered abuse, was intentional. As someone who wants to be a good dad when the time comes, this game and some other works of art meade me realize how implrtant fatherhood is, and i hope to be a good dad like Harry
I honestly really respect your reluctance and patience in making this video. Although I wouldn’t have considered you just trying to create another sh video an attempted cash grab I can see why you would think others might. Waiting for the right moment is commendable and I thoroughly enjoy your videos on the subject. And I also forgot about a lot that happened in this game, mainly the office building. That level was completely erased from my mind for some reason and replaying it was a treat. It’s crazy that one of the scariest parts of the game wasn’t even in silent hill. And somehow I never knew about the bullet proof jacket until my last playthrough this year lol
I remember playing SH3 when I was 5 (don't blame my parents 😂) cliche I know but still to this day no game could envoke the same sense of panic and anxiety I felt with this title. Something you said kind of resonated with me and I kind of don't know whether 1. This game has ruined all the intense feeling I could get from horror for over 20 years or 2. That I have a strong composition and this game is that much of a masterpiece that I can't physically control my state of mind whilst playing it. Either way, this game to me will always hold a special place In my heart. I'm gonna have a look at your Sh2 retrospective next, please keep up the good work it's refreshing to see someone respect the integrity of their opinion during analysis.
I first got into horror both me and my sister at a young age we laugh at certain moments in horror movies can't keep a straight face . please keep the videos going and fans will continue watching them .
damn, the song from the OST that’s in the opening here brings me back to the atmosphere of the game and the relevant time immediately. that was a wise choice to include it here in the video so early on the timeline.
Whoa whoa WHOA!!! you are telling me that this entire time I could have transformed into sailor moon!?! How did I not know that?? Ok, Sillent hill 3 for the win!
I'm fortunate I played this game during its release - around the time when Internet was mostly dial-up and limited lol. So I was able to play SH3 completely blind and not have it spoiled for me. This made following the narrative even MORE exciting for me, especially as a SH veteran gamer. I initially thought SH3 would be another self-contained story, like SH2 had been. At the time of its release, the marketing for SH3 had intentionally avoided giving away Heather's true identity - she was treated as this 'new' character. So just imagine playing SH3 with NO expectations that this was a true sequel and learning you are playing as Harry's daughter as you progress further into the game! For myself, I long suspected this was the case after numerously playing SH2's demo prior to its official release. Learning Heather's true identity just motivated me to continue playing and hoping to see my Harry again (needless to say, I got my wish... ;-; ). I know at the time of SH3's release people complained about this game not being as ambiguous, ambitious, and psychologically driven as SH2. But SH3 was never meant to be another SH2 (in the same way SH2 was never meant to be another SH1). SH3's focus and strengths rests in its characters, relationships, and innate fears of womanhood (which, admittedly, may fly off the heads of many male gamers who aren't accustomed to the female experience). I'm glad many gamers are picking up this title for the first time or revisiting it after many years since they are finally seeing what I saw during my first playthrough. And I hope the same could be said for Silent Hill The Room too (which probably terrifies me the most out of all the SH titles, specifically the fear corrupting the one place we're supposed to feel safe at - home).
SH3 is truly a great experience, especially as a horror fan. It is very terrifying and i completely agree that the sound design in this one is the best of the first 3 even though the first two were fantastic as well. When i think of 3, those freaking bunnies at the beginning are downright awful and iconic to my nightmares. I also love the brilliant homage the creators of the game made in the haunted house at the amusement park that the narrator sounds like Vincent Price. Genius. Side note: Silent Hill 1 WAS already remade. On the Wii and it was actually a pretty damn good remake, even more terrifying because there was no combat.
I kid you not I was not waiting for you to make more Silent Hill content. In fact I only clicked on this video because CZcams has been forcing it upon me for weeks. I only realised this was made by the same person until you spent so long talking about it.
I never get tired of seeing a Silent Hill retrospective. Great work! This is my introduction to your channel. Do you have any plans of making a video on SH1?
"Silent Hill 2 wasn't doing well..." I had hoped that wasn't the case at the time. One of the best games ever made, horror or not, players were like "eehhhh... we're not really vibing with this" And since Konami is Konami, they decided that this was Team Silent's fault because they had too much control When will studios learn that sometimes, it just takes time for people to "get it"?
Silent Hill 3 is what made me fall in love with the series. I did play Silent Hill 1 and 2 when they originally released, but for some reason, I absolutely hated them. I guess at the time, I was such a hardcore Resident Evil fan, anything that tried to "copy" it was automatically bad in my dumb teenage eyes. When Silent Hill 3 released, I was a bit older, and a bit more open to trying new games outside of my comfort zone. I was watching a friend play it, and I loved it. I went back and tried the first two again.
While I love SH1 and SH2 to their core, SH3 is by far my favorite of the trilogy. SH2 has the best narrative and atmosphere of the trilogy but I loved Heather and the visceral nature of SH3's world. That being said, I agree, never really liked the cult angle of SH1 and SH3.
30:30-30:48 That didn’t happen for just no reason. You weren’t paying attention to what you were reading. The reason you get pushed onto the tracks only if you read the article is because it’s about someone dying on the tracks. The nightmare world is Heather’s manifestation of her fears. She gained a newfound fear of falling on to the tracks after reading that article and it got manifested. Amazing video though! I really hope you cover silent hill 1 at some point, it has my favorite “dungeon” in the series with the Midwich Elementary school.
In hindsight I should have been clearer on this, my delivery was pretty flippant. I'd noticed the newspaper and pieced together the connection (and understood the basis of the 'ghost pushing incident' etc etc), but while scripting it was more fun to highlight it as one of the more seemingly random encounters of the game. Probably should have taken an extra 30 seconds to explain it further.
After being completely blown away, when the second silent hill came out, and after I beat it, I didn’t really ever think nothing about a sequel?!?! I know, crazy, right? But it is because of this silent Hill three came out, I was completely caught, offguard and seen it in Walmart and bought it immediately and went home so excited I almost had a stroke!!!! Silent Hill was definitely probably my favorite game series from the PlayStation one and PlayStation two error that was a single player action type game in this case survival horror, obviously.. Edit: These GD smart phones are so GD stupid !!!! Thanks a lot Apple, Google, Samsung, and any of you jerks out there making these products these days !!!
Hey there! I'd like to eventually get to all of them, but I'll likely keep to the anniversaries so they aren't all that gets uploaded on the channel. I like breaking things up and keeping the games/videos mixed for variety :)
I just beat it a couple days ago for the first time, 20 years late but it's still quite good. However, I didn't like the beginning much, it does catch up the pace after the metro section and after that it was a pleasant breeze.
I think the reason why the story is bad (and it is bad, you just dont notice because of how awesome Heather is) is because Team Silent didnt want to tell this story, they wanted to keep making new stories like James's story...but the sales of Silent Hill 2 were so poor, and the fans complained so much, that they had to nod and accept doing a sequel to a story it was never intended to have one...Silent Hill and Metal Gear Solid had a lot of parallels, and the mixed reception their second entries had, and Konami's reaction to it, is one of them.
Hey there, thanks for watching - the last song in the credits is the Akira Yamaoka & Joe Somersa track 'Hometown', a remake of the original 'Silent Hill' theme from SH1. Really good track that played over the SH3 credits.
What are your thoughts on the remake. I'm skeptical because A) you can't catch lightning twice and SH2 is one of the best games of all time. B) it's Bloober... C) they've already fucked up important plot things because they clearly don't get it
I'm extremely dubious about it to be honest. I'm glad Akira Yamaoka and Masahiro Ito are involved to at least instill some quality control... buuuuuuuuuuuuuut Konami does love to Konami.
The first one is good (the script is a little mess but the atmosphere and the monsters are FANTASTIC) but the sequel is very bad (cheap CGI and jumpscares, and is a bad adaptation of SH 3)
I don't hate the first at all actually - the music, atmosphere and overall visual aesthetic is absolutely solid. No complaints there. The biggest issue with the OG SH movie is actually due to studio interference, which is the shoehorned Sean Bean storyline (he was never meant to show up sporadically, the studio forced it in because 'there aren't any men in this movie'), which completely screws with the overall pacing of the film. We should have had all of those scenes replaced with, uh, scenes in SILENT HILL. As for the second movie... it's a trainwreck.
Didn't have any viable copies of SH1 when the channel started and I didn't want to do these out of order - might float the idea of a 25th anniversary special on it but we'll see.
SH3 may not have a deep story but by god is it rich in symbolism. Seriously, with james you can basically sum up his monsters as "can you can it with that wife of yours already?!" as each and every one of them is tied into that. Yes, it's very focused in theme but if you tell me it didn't result in a rather dull ensemble of beasties you are lying. Anyone remember the Mandarin? The creeper? Anything but the lying figure-mannequin-nurse trifecta and PH? Maybe the abstract daddy for just how gross it is? Meanwhile 3 gives you a tonna monsters that tie into various themes and have multiple interpretations. Many have compared the Numb Bodies to fetuses, but to me they always came across more like the nebbish "nice guys" heather would have had to deal with as a girl. Their name's a hint too, "nobodies". Sure, they start only as a major nuisance but like every girl is made painfully aware, that can change with time, becoming a larger, actual threat. And don't get me started on the closers. There's quite a bit to sink your teeth into in the symbolism of this game, and the way it reflects an almost relationship between the town and Heather. Almost like the town is a large idiot child, toying with heather for its amusement.
I managed to avoid Silent Hill Revelations bar a few stills for years. Thank you for reinforcing my determination to never see it 😂 I liked the first movie and after a recent diet of Silent Hill franchise CZcams videos I was getting morbidly curious. Also I don’t think it’s unusual to forget things about games and other media unless making a point of regularly replaying them. At least that’s my experience. Like I played MGS 2 but don’t really replay it so I have the shape of it in my mind but the particulars escape me. Which kinda works out because if I ever want to replay something it’ll be like experiencing parts of it anew.
1:01:30 In the ps2 version, this guy in the locker is making loud crazy banging and breathing sounds. Maybe they changed it for the PC version? Or maybe it was some glitch... I agree that silence would have been an eerie spin on that scene, but that's not how it was originally.
Oh damn, that's my bad. I unfortunately wasn't able to get hold of a PS2 copy for this one.
Gonna pin this comment, thanks for pointing out!
@@BadGhosts They have become crazy expensive these days! Its crazy. So glad I got one when they were dirt cheap :)
They really have, I collect copies of SH2 and am starting to regret not starting sooner on SH3 haha
@@matttyree1002I got lucky and got them both for 100 on eBay when I could
@@weepo2651 I got them as they came out the 1st time.
I have to disagree with you about the SH3 story not being as deep as SH2's. SH3 is about the process of a teenage girl becoming a woman. It's about the inherent fears young women can have about fear of adults (the cult), coming of age, adulthood, sexuality, loss of innocence, pregnancy, giving birth, being taken advantage of, and being alone. You can really see Heather's transformation as a character as the story progresses, and by the end of the game, she is a fully complete (after uniting with her other half), fully capable, independant woman, finally able to go her own way in life, and live free of the cult (the adults that took advantage of a young defenseless girl, and broke her trust in them).
Hey, thanks for watching!
Respect the disagreement, each to their own. I've heard Tangomushi's video is really good on the story side of things (coming from a female point of view) - she's great, highly recommend watching it.
I agree with you. SH3 always affected me most because I'm a woman with a lifetime of abuse. Growing up female was like my own personal Silent Hill. I LOVE SH2, but it doesn't have that extra layer of fear in being able to relate to the trauma of it.
I think that's the point though. That's why the original games have very specific types of individuals. Some people have experienced those things and others haven't. As a man, I couldn't even begin to imagine some of the hardships some women face. I've had a lot of female friends growing up and been horrified by some of the stories I was told. For me though, James resonates more. Not just because he's male either. I've experienced what it's like to love someone, yet simultaneously hate them. Also wishing you could go back and try again. I will say though, the aspect I enjoyed most about SH2 was because of that. It's a very human failing. Then again, you could claim Heather's nightmares stemmed from that very same concept if you'd take away all the intrigue around the cult.
I love both separately, SH2 trauma because I relate to James wife for the fear that my chronic illness will one day take that happiness away from me and that'll inevitably be my future honestly--ill die in the hospital due to it and I'll never be happy. If I ever get someone they'll be miserable because of me.
I love SH3 exactly because of Heather and her coming of age story essentially. As a woman, she's a beautiful character and she truly is a strong character and a wonderful teen to woman teacher.
@@BadGhosts Amazing response, and now I have a second video to watch lol
One of my favorite little details about SH3 are Harry’s notes you can find which he used as a save points in the first game. When I connected two and two that his motivation for writing notes “saving” was so that it might help any others in his situation and the notes in the same location in SH3. I went nuts.
It was such an amazing callback to the previous game. It was placed so subtlety and naturally. It’s such a minor detail and makes it that much more endearing. I loved finding remnants of Harry (and what he wrote) as Heather has to navigate the same hellscape.
It’s crazy that the Silent Hill Trilogy is 20 years old now. I was a toddler when the game’s originally came out and vaguely remember seeing ads in game informer and at GameStop for this game. What a classic. Akira’s soundtracks have aged like fine wine as well, let’s hope we get a whole trilogy remade for 4k.
Honestly if we could just get a solid remaster of the original four, most fans would be happy.
@@BadGhosts I wholeheartedly agree, just the first 4 being re-released would make everyone hyped and excited! We could only dream though cause i doubt Konami will ever do that Lol.
@@samtheapollowolf4135 🎉😮
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We seriously need a remake of the PS1 silent hill the story and monsters were the best
@@markmendoza3579 Agreed, Silent Hill 1 is a classic that aged like milk (Graphically) lol but I understand people like the old 90s look in some games.
I can tell this is gonna be exquisite. Can't wait to rewatch the Silent Hil 2 one, and then this one, when I wake up later today.
Thanks so much - hope it lives up to the expectation!
I've rewatched your Silent Hill 2 video more than a few times, I find it super comforting for some reason. I remember even watching it a few days after my grandmas passing and for 2 hrs I was able to escape from the situation so I *greatly* appreciate that video. I've been HOPING for a Silent Hill 3 one and I'm sooooo happy it's here!
I'm so sorry for your loss - it really means a lot to know that something I made could offer some comfort or escape after something like that. Thank you for sharing.
I do think it's interesting around 30:00 he notes that a 'ghost' pushes Cheryl into the subway "just to mess with her" for "no other reason", while a different CZcamsr, whose a woman, has pointed out the theme of stalking this game and how as women we have a looming fear of being stalked and how common it is to be stalked. The person in the subway isn't some ghost, it's one of the stalkers that has been plaguing Cheryl, following her around and tormenting her. From the Detective that wont leave her alone to the man in the hospital leaving her suggestive notes, the presence of being watched is constant. Great video overall, I just found that really interesting, the two viewpoints especially from a man's viewpoint who hasn't gone through or doesn't have the same fears a teenage girl might have.
Hey - thanks for watching!
Makes a lot of sense, honestly. If it's the one I'm thinking of (haven't watched it yet) I'm actually really glad Tango made that video - it's for that exact reason I specifically decided to not get into the more nitty gritty stuff with how Heather's body is used by the cult and the more explicit side of that.
I'm glad to see a female creator discuss that side of things with a lot more insight and perspective. It didn't really feel like the sort of thing I could truly do justice.
@@BadGhostsI know it’s been a year but I believe both Tangomushi and a smaller channel called Eurothug4000 made the same statements around the game largely zeroing in on the fears of women.
I love your silent hill retrospectives to bits. I just love your editing, the way you word things and your narration in general. It’s obvious you’re very passionate about this and that makes these videos so pleasant to watch.
Idk man these videos just hit hard
Thank you for the kind words :)
I always forget how hard the 80s aesthetics are when Heather is on the mall. Cafe aesthetics in SH are like a wrestler's introduction music, and Heather easily has the best. And she's the character who has it the worst.
Can't believe it's already 20 years old...
This is probably my favorite of the Silent Hill games, ngl. I love Heather and how she acts throughout the game, given shes still a normal person, trying to survive another day. Shes a woman, but still holds her own in a fight and the game doesn't try to make her a Mary Sue.
I also appreciate that different people can view the game in different ways depending on their experiences which is just, to me, shows the game is well made.
Your SH 2 video essay was incredible.. one of the best on CZcams thus far..
I'm looking forward to this review.. I never clicked so fast.. I still remember getting the soundtrack that came with the game..
That's very kind - thank you for watching!
@@BadGhosts No Problem 👍 😊
I'm so excited for this, the silent hill 2 video is one of my most rewatched videos on youtube and I love this game even more :)
I’ve been waiting for this for awhile. This is gonna be great.
Thanks for watching!
SH3 is my favorite in the franchise :D Its hands down the scariest and most intense
Sometimes we don't fully appreciate something until we revisit it, I'm so glad you had a chance to give this amazing game a fresh new chance
Thank you for watching!
You've got a great voice for video essays
Thank you!
i really feel like people dont give silent hill 3's story enough credit. the cult is kinda just the framing to tell the story of a young girl fighting over ownership of her own body against a society that literally views it as a mechanism for birth. it's also about this girl who, while already having a colorful personality, is learning about who she is and having to grow up fast in response to the world and people around her, or the lack thereof (RIP harry). there's this constant theme of people using her for their own ends. obviously, claudia and the cult are trying to use her to birth their god, but beyond that. vincent originally planned to kill her because her existence posed a threat to his way of life. douglas followed her around despite clearly making her uncomfortable (yes he had a job to do, but still. the only thing that gave him pause was entering the women's bathroom). even harry tried to make her into the daughter he once had, and at times considered ridding himself of her because of the emotional baggage that came with her.
people jump into the deeper meanings of silent hill 2's characters and themes but for some reason don't always extend that same energy to silent hill 3, which is just sad!!
Each to their own - I can respect people who see more in SH3 than I do, thanks for watching!
Tangomushi made an essay on the themes from a female perspective that talks about those things
Yes, this story just hits different when you have been a teenage girl yourself. The stalking, the way people want to tell you what to do with your body...it's all too real for do many girls Heathers age. There definitely is a deeper meaning to the story than just " haha, spooky cult, scary monsters"
@@TheMissileHappy To be honest, this is exactly why I (at 57:23) mentioned that I wasn't going to get more into the way Heather's femininity is treated throughout the game. It's not to say that I don't acknowledge it, I even had an entire section scripted out at one point, but it soon became apparent that I wasn't speaking from a point of view that 100% understands. Instead, I chose to cover SH3 on a general basis rather than zero in on a subject I probably have no authority to be speaking on.
Fortunately, Tangomushi has done exactly that - highly recommend checking her video out, it's been mentioned in the comments quite a few times now (and for good reason).
oh man what a wonderful video. the sound design of silent hill 3 actually freaked me out so much playing it for the first time i was constantly pausing and taking breaks it was making my skin crawl like nothing else. bless akira yamaoka for this.
i really love that you talked about whether or not you actually enjoyed the game, this is probably my favourite game hands down ever but for sure it can be a miserable experience so it makes it hard to reccomend to people compared to silent hill 2 - both games have massive highs in different areas and are both so incredible.
and god i love heather so much, she's probably one of my favourite characters from video games ever.
thank you for making this video 😊🫶
Thanks so much for watching!
I’ve always loved SH3 over SH2, but when I say this they burn me on the stake.
You are justified. I also think SH3 is better. It got us out of the "everything is psychological, bro" into a world more similar to SH1 with paranormal elements, The Cult, reincarnation. We also got a more expressive and relatable protagonist (and the best of the series), Heather. And to top that, the soundtrack of this game is just outstanding (also the best in the series).
@@ceadeu8491 it was just so much more creepy and disturbing as a kid. I’d love to see a remaster that isn’t shit.
You're gonna hit it big. I remember watching Dante Ravioli back when he had a couple hundred views.
Once Silent Hill really takes off again after 2R - these videos will get an influx of views.
I love this game, Heather still is one of my favorite game protagonists 🧡
Fun fact from a nurse the sound when Heather is climbing up that ladder is a pregnancy ultrasound. It's the sound of a babies heart reat on doppler
The Silent Hill 2 vid made me finally buy a PS2 and this video finally made me want to play through some of these games in full for the very first time! Keep on doing what you’re doing Ghost Bro!
Thanks for watching my dude!
Your Silent Hill 2 retrospective is definitely my all-time favorite Silent Hill 2 analysis video. The way you conveyed your love, passion and care for the game and its story and characters in that video was truly remarkable and beats any other video covering the game for me. This video, despite the fact that SH3 is game you had a far less personal connection with, I still feel that you handled talking about the game very well. The editing is yet again very good, and you brought up and made clear the differences between SH2 and SH3 very accurately. I too agree that I prefer the characters and story of SH2, but that SH3 has the better feeling of horror, and a bigger sense of helplessness as the game seems to be toying with you at almost every turn.
I do wish that despite the story of SH2 being more profound/less shallow than a so called "just another cult themed story that does not have much depth" - you would have talked about the potential and possible bigger underlying layers of Heather's character/psyche in relation to her version of the town and situation. I feel that there is a lot more to talk about than just her snarky/sharp attitude and definitely more to focus on when it comes to her own emotional and psychological issues that stem from the death of her father, lack of a mother figure, and that there is likely a reason for her "stranger danger" attitude. I do know that you briefly touched upon her mourning her father, and I do want to note that you beautifully depicted the contrast of the moments where Heather was focused on her hatred/revenge, had a moment of relief once the God was killed, and only *then* really started her mourning process/truly realized that she was repressing her sadness and grief, and that is something I definitely commend you for. But I feel that Heather's psyche is more complicated than that and there is more to be found. I feel the story tells a lot about womanhood as a whole and aims to bring a certain perspective on this topic, and shows topics such as the process of a woman going through different stages in a human life (teenhood to adulthood). It seems to touch on the dangers that come from simply being a woman, take the forced pregnancy topic, multiple stalking examples (stanley, random ghost watching her and pushing her on the tracks, the ominous and horrifying phone call), Heather's certain attitude towards any and all strangers that they should be avoided/almost disregarded in their entirety, because that is often what women are taught to do - and when you consider these elements I do feel that the story seems to be much more complex than just that surface level of "stop the evil cult that killed your father."
Now I'm not saying that after watching your video, I believe *that* to be the gist of everything you've said/covered, because I know that you too have talked about this game at a much deeper level than just that. But I do think that certain elements, especially surrounding Heather's psyche and character, could have been covered more profoundly by taking a closer look at certain things, or just were not really talked about at all.
Again, that is not to say that this video in any way shape or form is bad, or missed the mark. Yet again you've covered one of the mainline Silent Hill entries with such grace and have put down a super high quality video that any fan of the franchise can and will appreciate. I was just kind of secretely hoping that even with this game, you would have taken a closer look at the Characters' psyches/the fine details about them and what makes them tick. And I know that, to be frank, the only character that even stands a chance of undergoing such scrutiny and actually resulting in an interesting character profile, is Heather, as, like you said, other characters in this game can be quite bland/underwhelming. (Take Claudia, or Douglas since you indeed do spend too little physical time with him unlike Maria in SH2, leading in not feeling very connected to/with him) - but if the only character that would be talked about in this way would be Heather, that would still make for a very interesting video segment, especially gven the fact that not many people really seem to talk about her in such a manner, whereas with James, every single SH analysis video will. (Not as good as in your SH2 video though, might I add, haha ;b)
In any case, the video was very enjoyable to watch and I was stoked to see that you had uploaded it. I would more than love to one day see that you uploaded a retrospective for Silent Hll 4, and hear your thoughts on that game. Take care and thanks for the effort yet again.
Hey there - thanks so much for such a detailed comment, and for the kinds words!
I'll be completely honest, I agree on virtually all points - there are plenty of things I could have delved further into. If I had extended the video by another 30 minutes to an hour I would have probably done so, and I definitely would have been proud of those inclusions, but there was a ton of IRL stuff that went on in the background of the three months I spent making this video. It was honestly something of a miracle that I managed to finish the video in its current state, there was just way too much going on.
Aside from that, I've also become super burned out with CZcams in general as well, so I'm taking an extended break from making reviews for at least a few months. I really don't know when the next video will be made, but I DO plan on covering Silent Hill 4.
Thanks again for reaching out.
@@BadGhosts I completely understand. With that knowledge, I am glad to have been able to see the video as it is now. It would have been a shame to miss out on it, so the fact you were still able to release despite the circumstances it is great. I too have not uploaded anything to my channel in 7 months now, so feeling burnt-out from making (a certain type of) videos is very much real and valid. Perhaps one day, you can make a follow-up video on SH3 to cover anything you may think you should have/still can. And if not, then that SH4 will surely be a delight to watch, just as the other videos have been. I wish you a lot of luck and comfort in the coming time and we will all gladly see you back on your channel once you feel well enough and ready to make a return.
We'll be patiently waiting, friend.
-lustY
8:46 that's part of why I like to think the Rebirth ending in SH2 works to "reboot/restart" the cult's power over the town.
It's not lightning in a bottle if it's consistent quality. Good move waiting.
Hell yeah dude, the next masterpiece is finally here!
Thank you my dude!
hey! i think your og silent hill 2 video was actually what got me into silent hill!! i’m really happy to see another video on what has since become my favourite game in the franchise :) great vid!!
Hey - thanks so much for watching!
1:04:50 when you feature the Borley Haunted Mansion. I don’t know how many others noticed so I hope you don’t mind my pointing this out. Vincent Price was a huge horror icon. He starred in RADIO dramas and tales of the supernatural. The voice here is not Vincent Price but that is how he talked. There are archives on CZcams offering many of his radio shows if you want to check it out. I don’t know when Mr. Price died but this is a wonderful nod to his early career in radio. I’m pretty sure he was in a movie called house on haunted hill, I could be wrong. So this might be nodding to that that as well. Either way it’s fun to notice. What do you think?
Seems like a pretty appropriate and very fun reference!
Here from the SH2 video, and I can say that you did a great job of "needing" about this amazing beautiful franchise. Now I think it's time for SH1 the OG needs it's respect and graduate. That game made Resident Evil look like a Halloween party (in a bad way).
I bought this game 20 years ago and to this day, it’s the game that scared me the most. SH3 is a masterpiece.
i died more by that red cloud following me in the haunted house than in anywhere else in the game😂
It's so unexpected the first time, too - completely catches you off guard haha
I'm in the same boat as you. SH2 has this untouchable position in my pantheon of media giants that I sometimes forget just how excellent SH3 was. The symbolism of Silent Hill in this one is so thoughtful and just everywhere. I return to SH3 with reverence and excitement every year.
I actually was thinking about starting this game perfect timing
My new comfort video 🥰🥰🥰
Thank you for watching!
35:44 the door was actually unlocked when you died, i played through today and got out when the room looked like that
The last video of the slient hill was amazing and make me realize why slient hill 2 is a masterpiece now I going to enjoy watching this for sure ❤
I was in my very formative years of life when I first encountered the franchise, and it was interactions with Silent Hill 3 that I almost exclusively experienced.
While it scared me, it built up a mythological outlook on Heather, and the aesthetic of the town. When Silent Hill fell into general obscurity, it did for me as well. Aside from Silent Hill 3, the only other SH experience I had was a snippet in a game informer magazine for Downpour in 2010 or 2011. Then it disappeared to me.
Roughly in 2020, when the Silent Hill DLC came to Dead By Daylight, I was introduced to DBD for the first time, and re-introduced to the world of Silent Hill, especially the third entry, its mythological status cemented in my mind. I proceeded to become obsessed with the franchise, consuming every bit of media surrounding the series that I could. I began to collect the games to play them to their fullest extent, replayed them, and replayed them again. I fell head over heels for Silent Hill, and it was Silent Hill 3 that captured me the most. It felt lost, gritty, and as rebellious as it was bloody. I still can’t place it, but Heather resonated with me on a personal level. I identified with her in such a deep and interpersonal way that she’s rapidly become my favorite fictional character of all time, and has only cemented her place there since then, despite the fact that I’m a guy. I identify with her so inexplicably strongly.
It was my infatuation with the world of Silent Hill that encouraged me to experience more than I had before. Growing up, I was fairly exclusive to Halo. The combination of Silent Hill’s resurgence into gradual relevance, and Halo’s progressive downfall into terrible and mediocre releases, that made me receptive to new content. Silent Hill was my gateway into more horror games, getting me to actually play Resident Evil, and Dead Space. It made me aware of how deep and compelling Japanese horror could become, encouraging me to progress into more Asian content, like Ringu, and Sweet Home. Experiencing new content allowed me to get into other genres and games I hadn’t tried before as well, like Assassin’s Creed, Yakuza, and Elder Scrolls. There’s also that super fun Silent Hill mod for Fallout 4.
You have managed to encapsulate my fascination and morbid passion in this video for Silent Hill 3 specifically. You’ve actually put into words many of my own thoughts for this game. How it is the world itself that attracts me so greatly. The story, the characters, it realistically would fall painfully short if they didn’t have the world, soundtrack, and atmosphere that it does. Combined, it makes a violent, aggressive, and terrifying world that at the same time is vaguely nostalgic, strangely comforting, yet oppressive and suffocating. Maybe I’m just weird, but Silent Hill 3 brings me a sense of comfort and security that other games simply can’t bring, not even Halo 2, previously my favorite game of all time, or Resident Evil 4 (original), a rising star in my catalogue of favorite video game experiences. The rebellious energy of Heather and the early 2000’s vibe, the horrific imagery of the Otherworld, the deeper psychological meaning, it all works flawlessly together. My love for this franchise has allowed me to influence my friends, many of whom originally saw the series as gross, edgy, and full of mindless violence. I’ve managed to educate them about the game on a deeper level, instilling an admitted appreciation for the series (though my friends are too scared to actually play it, electing to experience it vicariously through me instead).
Long-winded rant in conclusion, thank you for this video. It was well-put, entertaining, and reflected many of my own thoughts and opinions on both this game, and the others surrounding it. I saw your Silent Hill 2 video when it came out two years ago relative to this one, and it was worth watching your entry on the third title. Keep up the good work, and thanks again!
Hey there - thanks so much for the comment and for watching!
It's been amazing to see so many people resonate with these people, it makes all the work worthwhile. Silent Hill 2 is absolutely my comfort game so I don't think SH3 being one is weird at all.
Great video. I have to watch your SH2 video.
Regarding the lack of screen time for the characters, it may have something to do with the "stranger danger" theme the game seems to convey. After all, Claudia, Vincent and even Douglas are just that : strangers. A bunch of unknown adults who want something from Heather, just like the Subway Ghost or the Hospital Stalker.
And for the characters to remain strangers in our eyes, well the game can't say much about them or let us spend too much time with them.
I love this video, I have your sh 2 video saved to favorites and have watched it several times, I've added this one as well!!
Thank you!
Oh man, I've been binging silent hill content for the past week and I still can' stop watching more about it. 👍🏽
Never touched the games when i was a kid. They came out when i was 9ish. So they scared the piss out of me. Watched my dad play though. BUT NOW I'm absolutely obsessed with them. Loving your deep dives❤
Great video man, hope we can see one on the room :)
I've been watching a lot of Silent Hill retrospectives lately, because I find them fascinating.
I think it's very interesting how gender can shape horror. Things you point out as senseless (example, the ghost pushing Heather onto the tracks) are very real and terrifying fears for women, and female CZcamsrs point to those scenes as the scariest ones.
Not a dig at all, it's just very curious how society and gender can shape what's terrifying in very subtle ways. Really good video!
C-type of person represent. Great to see you back.
Thanks so much for watching!
When these came out I was at an age where I couldn’t play scary stuff myself. My mom played through the games and I watched her. My first time truly playing myself was with the new game plus magical girl costume. To this day I have the soundtrack that came with our copy of the game memorized
20 years , wow
man i had the video tabbed when the jordan quote came up and i knew it right away who said that. man i miss him, really hope he is healthy mentally
Last I heard he's been doing pretty well for himself - he's been working a lot on animations and music on the rebranded Jordan Go To Sleep. All in all he seems to be pursuing what makes him happy, so it's something to be glad for :)
@@BadGhosts i am glad to hear that
One of the best things about this game is the message of Fatherhood. Harry fighted monsters, a cult and a fake god because he loved his daughther so much he could give his own life. When Cheryl reicarnated, we can see on the notes that at first he wasnt sure of raising Heather, but then he comes to the conclusition that it doestn matter if that baby is his daughtger or not because that baby needs someone, and what's better than a man that will fight for you even if things get worse?
And we can see in Heather that she Harry's fatherhood was perfect because Heather is a strong woman and how happpy she seems when she talks to him on the beginning. And by stoppimg the fake god again, she pretty much saved the world
Then we have Claudia, who is the opposite on this situation, Claudia had an awfull father that abused her, giving her the desire of a world without suffering, and she refuses to let the past go. She thinks that Alessa will fix all of her issues so bad that she kills a man expecting that would help her. Her trauma is really sad, and i wonder if her having the same VA as Angela, who also suffered abuse, was intentional.
As someone who wants to be a good dad when the time comes, this game and some other works of art meade me realize how implrtant fatherhood is, and i hope to be a good dad like Harry
I honestly really respect your reluctance and patience in making this video. Although I wouldn’t have considered you just trying to create another sh video an attempted cash grab I can see why you would think others might. Waiting for the right moment is commendable and I thoroughly enjoy your videos on the subject.
And I also forgot about a lot that happened in this game, mainly the office building. That level was completely erased from my mind for some reason and replaying it was a treat. It’s crazy that one of the scariest parts of the game wasn’t even in silent hill. And somehow I never knew about the bullet proof jacket until my last playthrough this year lol
I remember playing SH3 when I was 5 (don't blame my parents 😂) cliche I know but still to this day no game could envoke the same sense of panic and anxiety I felt with this title. Something you said kind of resonated with me and I kind of don't know whether 1. This game has ruined all the intense feeling I could get from horror for over 20 years or 2. That I have a strong composition and this game is that much of a masterpiece that I can't physically control my state of mind whilst playing it.
Either way, this game to me will always hold a special place In my heart. I'm gonna have a look at your Sh2 retrospective next, please keep up the good work it's refreshing to see someone respect the integrity of their opinion during analysis.
Do more my man I am here to Listen while doing dishes
'Dishwasher Ghost' does have a certain ring to it...
@@BadGhosts outer "kitchen" boss "cleaning" without end
RAHHHH LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
NO WAY IM WATCHING A SILENT HILL 3 VIDEO ESSAY THAT ISNT 4 YEARS OLD
@@klaws3522 right?? lmao
My favorite SH. Love this game so much.
I first got into horror both me and my sister at a young age we laugh at certain moments in horror movies can't keep a straight face .
please keep the videos going and fans will continue watching them .
damn, the song from the OST that’s in the opening here brings me back to the atmosphere of the game and the relevant time immediately. that was a wise choice to include it here in the video so early on the timeline.
I watch entirely too many SH retrospectives and analysis videos to ever play the games almost like the first time again 😭
A pop tart jump scare? A pop tart JUMP SCARE?! POP TART!! JUMP SCARE!!
Marias revolver would have been a cool unlockable
Whoa whoa WHOA!!! you are telling me that this entire time I could have transformed into sailor moon!?! How did I not know that?? Ok, Sillent hill 3 for the win!
I'm fortunate I played this game during its release - around the time when Internet was mostly dial-up and limited lol. So I was able to play SH3 completely blind and not have it spoiled for me. This made following the narrative even MORE exciting for me, especially as a SH veteran gamer. I initially thought SH3 would be another self-contained story, like SH2 had been. At the time of its release, the marketing for SH3 had intentionally avoided giving away Heather's true identity - she was treated as this 'new' character. So just imagine playing SH3 with NO expectations that this was a true sequel and learning you are playing as Harry's daughter as you progress further into the game! For myself, I long suspected this was the case after numerously playing SH2's demo prior to its official release. Learning Heather's true identity just motivated me to continue playing and hoping to see my Harry again (needless to say, I got my wish... ;-; ).
I know at the time of SH3's release people complained about this game not being as ambiguous, ambitious, and psychologically driven as SH2. But SH3 was never meant to be another SH2 (in the same way SH2 was never meant to be another SH1). SH3's focus and strengths rests in its characters, relationships, and innate fears of womanhood (which, admittedly, may fly off the heads of many male gamers who aren't accustomed to the female experience). I'm glad many gamers are picking up this title for the first time or revisiting it after many years since they are finally seeing what I saw during my first playthrough. And I hope the same could be said for Silent Hill The Room too (which probably terrifies me the most out of all the SH titles, specifically the fear corrupting the one place we're supposed to feel safe at - home).
SH3 is truly a great experience, especially as a horror fan. It is very terrifying and i completely agree that the sound design in this one is the best of the first 3 even though the first two were fantastic as well.
When i think of 3, those freaking bunnies at the beginning are downright awful and iconic to my nightmares. I also love the brilliant homage the creators of the game made in the haunted house at the amusement park that the narrator sounds like Vincent Price. Genius.
Side note: Silent Hill 1 WAS already remade. On the Wii and it was actually a pretty damn good remake, even more terrifying because there was no combat.
Our boy Valtiel turning gravity off for dramatic effect
Opening with a sewerslvt track, instant subscribe
Great job brudda. Always love returning to the SH universe. Have you listened to the audiobook of SH2?
Thank you! I haven't actually, gotta add that to my list of stuff to get to for sure.
Makes me feel old
I kid you not I was not waiting for you to make more Silent Hill content. In fact I only clicked on this video because CZcams has been forcing it upon me for weeks. I only realised this was made by the same person until you spent so long talking about it.
Thank you for watching!
Are you planning to do Silent Hill 4 20 Year Retrospective next year?
Maybe, I guess we'll see how the next 3-6 months go - gonna be taking an extended break due to burnout unfortunately.
that sewerslvt I heard at the start there...
I never get tired of seeing a Silent Hill retrospective. Great work! This is my introduction to your channel. Do you have any plans of making a video on SH1?
Thank you! I'll probably cover SH1 in the future yeah, not sure when but most likely with a corresponding anniversary to keep the theme going
Didn't realise this till now lol but there is no town exploration in this game. It's all inside buildings.
There's some brief town exploration around the midway point, but not nearly as much as the previous games for sure.
"Silent Hill 2 wasn't doing well..."
I had hoped that wasn't the case at the time. One of the best games ever made, horror or not, players were like "eehhhh... we're not really vibing with this"
And since Konami is Konami, they decided that this was Team Silent's fault because they had too much control
When will studios learn that sometimes, it just takes time for people to "get it"?
Silent Hill 3 is what made me fall in love with the series. I did play Silent Hill 1 and 2 when they originally released, but for some reason, I absolutely hated them. I guess at the time, I was such a hardcore Resident Evil fan, anything that tried to "copy" it was automatically bad in my dumb teenage eyes.
When Silent Hill 3 released, I was a bit older, and a bit more open to trying new games outside of my comfort zone. I was watching a friend play it, and I loved it. I went back and tried the first two again.
Hell yeah!
While I love SH1 and SH2 to their core, SH3 is by far my favorite of the trilogy. SH2 has the best narrative and atmosphere of the trilogy but I loved Heather and the visceral nature of SH3's world. That being said, I agree, never really liked the cult angle of SH1 and SH3.
30:30-30:48 That didn’t happen for just no reason. You weren’t paying attention to what you were reading. The reason you get pushed onto the tracks only if you read the article is because it’s about someone dying on the tracks. The nightmare world is Heather’s manifestation of her fears. She gained a newfound fear of falling on to the tracks after reading that article and it got manifested. Amazing video though! I really hope you cover silent hill 1 at some point, it has my favorite “dungeon” in the series with the Midwich Elementary school.
In hindsight I should have been clearer on this, my delivery was pretty flippant. I'd noticed the newspaper and pieced together the connection (and understood the basis of the 'ghost pushing incident' etc etc), but while scripting it was more fun to highlight it as one of the more seemingly random encounters of the game.
Probably should have taken an extra 30 seconds to explain it further.
1:04:54 the spirit of jordan underneath
Yoooo I’m in this!
"Header"
@@Hugo_Tate I am not a native speaker
The man honestly makes great videos, his work ethic is ridiculous.
Highly recommend.
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Also this Romanian man slams more puss than all of us combined, just ask my wife and about 12 of my ex girlfriends
After being completely blown away, when the second silent hill came out, and after I beat it, I didn’t really ever think nothing about a sequel?!?! I know, crazy, right? But it is because of this silent Hill three came out, I was completely caught, offguard and seen it in Walmart and bought it immediately and went home so excited I almost had a stroke!!!!
Silent Hill was definitely probably my favorite game series from the PlayStation one and PlayStation two error that was a single player action type game in this case survival horror, obviously..
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These GD smart phones are so GD stupid !!!!
Thanks a lot Apple, Google, Samsung, and any of you jerks out there making these products these days !!!
Are you gonna do a SH3 retrospective?
Hey there! I'd like to eventually get to all of them, but I'll likely keep to the anniversaries so they aren't all that gets uploaded on the channel. I like breaking things up and keeping the games/videos mixed for variety :)
26:30 what's the name of the song playing here?
Hey - this is 'Killing Time' from the original Silent Hill.
@@BadGhosts thanks man. Great video btw 🤌🏼
oh I saw Silent Hill Rev in theater. I had a fun time, fuck whoever says otherwise.
I just beat it a couple days ago for the first time, 20 years late but it's still quite good. However, I didn't like the beginning much, it does catch up the pace after the metro section and after that it was a pleasant breeze.
See you next year for Silent Hill: Ghost bogaloo
Lmao
I think the reason why the story is bad (and it is bad, you just dont notice because of how awesome Heather is) is because Team Silent didnt want to tell this story, they wanted to keep making new stories like James's story...but the sales of Silent Hill 2 were so poor, and the fans complained so much, that they had to nod and accept doing a sequel to a story it was never intended to have one...Silent Hill and Metal Gear Solid had a lot of parallels, and the mixed reception their second entries had, and Konami's reaction to it, is one of them.
what is that last song you used?
Hey there, thanks for watching - the last song in the credits is the Akira Yamaoka & Joe Somersa track 'Hometown', a remake of the original 'Silent Hill' theme from SH1.
Really good track that played over the SH3 credits.
33:08 yas drag him heather
What are your thoughts on the remake. I'm skeptical because A) you can't catch lightning twice and SH2 is one of the best games of all time. B) it's Bloober... C) they've already fucked up important plot things because they clearly don't get it
I'm extremely dubious about it to be honest.
I'm glad Akira Yamaoka and Masahiro Ito are involved to at least instill some quality control... buuuuuuuuuuuuuut Konami does love to Konami.
song at the beginning ?????
Akira Yamaoka - You're Not Here.
Can you please please please do silent hill part 1
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Any parasite eve 2 analysis?
Would like to cover them eventually!
It has a more realistic battle scenario compared to the first game. The story is good too. I'm still waiting for a remake
Why does everyone hate the silent hill movies so much? I liked them
The first one is good (the script is a little mess but the atmosphere and the monsters are FANTASTIC) but the sequel is very bad (cheap CGI and jumpscares, and is a bad adaptation of SH 3)
I don't hate the first at all actually - the music, atmosphere and overall visual aesthetic is absolutely solid. No complaints there.
The biggest issue with the OG SH movie is actually due to studio interference, which is the shoehorned Sean Bean storyline (he was never meant to show up sporadically, the studio forced it in because 'there aren't any men in this movie'), which completely screws with the overall pacing of the film. We should have had all of those scenes replaced with, uh, scenes in SILENT HILL.
As for the second movie... it's a trainwreck.
I liked the movie. Never played the game.
You’ve done silent hill 2 and 3 now but what about silent hill 1?
Didn't have any viable copies of SH1 when the channel started and I didn't want to do these out of order - might float the idea of a 25th anniversary special on it but we'll see.
@@BadGhosts Why not emulation? Or do you have a viable copy now?
@@Phillylove100 Emulation will likely be the way to go if needs be, but I also have access to a PS1 copy and a means to record it now.
i see you used little bit of sewerslvt music in the opening X3
SH3 may not have a deep story but by god is it rich in symbolism. Seriously, with james you can basically sum up his monsters as "can you can it with that wife of yours already?!" as each and every one of them is tied into that. Yes, it's very focused in theme but if you tell me it didn't result in a rather dull ensemble of beasties you are lying. Anyone remember the Mandarin? The creeper? Anything but the lying figure-mannequin-nurse trifecta and PH? Maybe the abstract daddy for just how gross it is?
Meanwhile 3 gives you a tonna monsters that tie into various themes and have multiple interpretations. Many have compared the Numb Bodies to fetuses, but to me they always came across more like the nebbish "nice guys" heather would have had to deal with as a girl. Their name's a hint too, "nobodies". Sure, they start only as a major nuisance but like every girl is made painfully aware, that can change with time, becoming a larger, actual threat. And don't get me started on the closers.
There's quite a bit to sink your teeth into in the symbolism of this game, and the way it reflects an almost relationship between the town and Heather. Almost like the town is a large idiot child, toying with heather for its amusement.
I managed to avoid Silent Hill Revelations bar a few stills for years. Thank you for reinforcing my determination to never see it 😂 I liked the first movie and after a recent diet of Silent Hill franchise CZcams videos I was getting morbidly curious.
Also I don’t think it’s unusual to forget things about games and other media unless making a point of regularly replaying them. At least that’s my experience. Like I played MGS 2 but don’t really replay it so I have the shape of it in my mind but the particulars escape me.
Which kinda works out because if I ever want to replay something it’ll be like experiencing parts of it anew.