Crumar Mojo61 improved leslie simulation and overdrive (fw. 1.40)_2of2
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Crumar Mojo61 and Crumar Seven
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New leslie simulation parameter, in particular: Tube feedback.
This is a very important parameter that works on an aspect of
the whole amplification system that can drastically vary both the dynamic response and the frequency response, as well as have an impact on the overdrive.
When a Leslie cabinet is set very close to the Hammond organ and is played at a high volume, there's some sort of feedback between the tubes, the transformers and the pickups of the Hammond and the speakers of the Leslie, resulting in a sound that tends to get “fatter”, the attack is “punchier” and the distortion is aggressive, giving you the feeling that some sort of energy is looping between the organ and its amplifier.
Now, a genuine Leslie 122 or 147 is only 40W of power, but if you try to connect your Hammond organ to a 100W guitar amp such as a Marshall JCM900 or a Fender Twin you'll notice that the amp starts going in feedback even if you don't play any note on the organ.
This is... pure analog power!
Try this parameter at small steps, it can drastically change the sound in both a pleasant or unpleasant way, according to your tastes.
Finally someone has the distortion turned up...what a great sound and awesome playing!!!
Thanks man!
This was meant exactly to show all the possible capabilities of the editor 😁👍
I love this sound engine more every time I hear it!
agree :-)
This one outperforms the Korg engine which is used in the Kronos or the Vox Continental by far. To me the first really good sounding Hammond clone.
Thanks for comment 👍
Yes, the Mojo sounds great!
This one has attitude it has that sound even w/o overdrive
This is fantastic
SOUNDS REALLY GOOD MARCO !!!!
HOPE ALL IS WELL !!!
BEST FROM NYC !!!
ciao!!!
yes, they did a great job with this last upgrade!
(I'm slowly starting again with a "normal" life, after a hard surgery last july)
Buon clone specialmente negli alti (non urla)......bravo Marco 🎹👍
ah io non ho fatto nulla :-)))
Crazy ! Sounds good
Love it! Sounds amazing. Just ordered one today haha. That little lick you do at 03:00 is that from something or that’s somethin you just had in your back pocket? It’s really cool Haha 👽👽
Thanks for comment 🍻
As usual, I was just pressing random keys 😁🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@marcoballa haha nice!!!
Domanda: nel caso si acquistasse il mojo 61 e il manuale inferiore, che tipo di soluzione si potrebbe adottare per il trasporto? Nel senso: una volta messi uno sopra all'altro ha senso mantenerli insieme e magari acquistare una custodia per il doppio manuale? O meglio tenerli separati? Nel caso esistono soluzioni "ufficiali" proposte da Mojo? O magari da altre aziende?
Ciao 🤗
Sì, esistono le borse imbottite su misura originali per i due pezzi separati.
Probabilmente (ma nel caso verificalo prima) i due pezzi insieme possono essere infilati in una custodia unica, tipo Stefyline, ecc.
Awesome!!!
Now they only need to put the spring reverb update in from the software v2 :)
Can you give me some tips for how you have your settings on this? It sounds absolutely amazing. Out of the box, the crumar does NOT sound like this. Please share what you tweaked if you don't mind.
Ciao, I do not have this instrument at the moment...
I just remember that I selected one among the various tone generators (maybe one of the C3s) and played with overdrive parameters.
Everything is really easy with the editor 👍
Now you made me have to listen to Camille 2000 Piero Piccioni 🇮🇹
:-))))
Hey, Marco, have you tested MOJO DESKTOP (newer midi module version)? Is it the same as classic?
ciao!
yes, the new Mojo desktop has same sound of Mojo61/Mojo Classic/Mojo Suitcase/Gemini/VB3.2.
maybe some small difference in the editor, but the generator is the same.
@@marcoballa Ciao! Is the Leslie simulator also the same?
@@Sloba_Music yes everything is the same 👍
Just been offered a good price for my Hammond XK1-C, I’ve never been blown away by its sound… thinking of the Mojo to replace it.. or a bad idea?
ciao!
two completely different tastes of the same sound 🙂
samples with the XK1-C, virtual modeling with the Mojo.
they both sounds good. they both do not sound as an hammond/leslie 🙂
great overdrive on the Mojo61.
and, the same modeled electric pianos and clavinet of the Crumar Seven (best sounding digital rhodes and clavinet around).
maybe it's worth a try...
Cool! Did you use the phone app to design the sound or was this an engineering trick?
James Allen yes, every parameter tweakable with the (very easy) app! 👍
Gods, that's sexy. Wasn't aware Crumar made such nice dirty organs (however lewd that may sound haha).
Ciao Marco, é da poco che ho "scoperto" le tue demo in particolare sugli organi, veramente ben fatte, complimenti !!!
Per favore potresti darmi una ragione di aquistare un mojo 61 piuttosto che un legend solo o un numa organ 2.....per una configurazione "rock-metal-prog" (qualità suono, qualità di costruzione e affidabilita, praticità).Per il momento il legend solo é il "solo"organo che ho potuto testare e lo trovo magnifico.....
ciao e grazie mille per il commento!
se hai intenzione di utilizzare la simulazione leslie interna, al momento Mojo rende decisamente meglio.
con un vero leslie (o con un Burn/Ventilator/Lester K) allora Mojo, Legend e Numa Organ sono tutti efficaci!
overdrive più "equilibrato" su Mojo61/Classic/suitcase (vedi mie demo qui sul canale).
anche HX3 (sempre qui sul canale :-) ) è il top su overdrive (ma necessita di controller opportunamente "apparecchiato" - fader, ecc. - )
@@marcoballa ti ringrazio per rapida risposta. in effetti , vedendo la tua demo, il mojo 61 é molto convincente. Spero di trovare un negozio dove poterlo provare.
Tanti saluti da Montreux/Svizzera
ciao Marco, bel video, fatto con cura e precisione, molto chiaro, e di sicuro aiuto per chi volesse farsi un idea della qualità dello strumento.. scusami, mi permetto due domande, purtroppo non ho trovato altre info online a riguardo : come funziona le gestione dei suoni ? immagino non a preset come per il gemini, ma tipo con 4 strumenti in teoria attivabili in base ad A/B lower ed upper e gestibili direttamente ''live'' sul momento, è effetivamente così ? e, visto che usi il modulino esterno per le drawbar extra, è perchè non c'è possibilità di editing di lower e pedal con le drawbar presenti direttamente sul mojo ? grazie in anticipo
ciao e grazie per il commento!
non ho più lo strumento ma cerco di andare a memoria (mi perdonerai se qualcosa mi sfugge, nel caso ti rimando al manuale presente sul sito Crumar).
per la sezione organo si possono salvare un paio di presets per ciascun manuale (superiore e inferiore).
per gli altri suoni non ricordo esattamente, ma se per esempio "modifichi" i tuoi pianoforti preferiti (Rhodes, Wurlitzer, acustico) o il Clavinet con un certo settaggio o effetto tramite l'editor e salvi la configurazione, poi quando richiami "al volo" i suoni avrai quella configurazione salvata.
ricorda sempre che lo strumento è monotimbrico, cioè consente di utilizzare un suono alla volta, non puoi (per esempio) avere sul manuale superiore il suono di organo e su quello inferiore il suono di pianoforte contemporaneamente.
il modulo drawbars esterno lo avevo per comodità (avevo anche il secondo manuale staccabile) ma ovviamente con il singolo set di drawbars presente sullo strumento si possono comandare entrambi i manuali 👍
@@marcoballa ti ringrazio per la risposta, avevo fin'ora ignorato il manuale a causa della pochezza di dettagli presenti nel manuale del gemini e temevo di non trovarvi le info che cercavo, ma mi sbagliavo, il manuale del mojo è molto più dettagliato sulle varie funzioni dello strumento
il fatto che sia monotimbrico non è un problema, lo userei come supporto, non come main keyboard, e cmq mi apr di capire che, in base alla tipologia di strumento attiva, i 4 switch possono essere sfruttati per avere più suoni da accendere e spengere singolarmente ( tipo i 4 piani, od i due manuali dell'hammond, od i due combo V ed F, peccato per l'organo a canne che è da solo )
per caso ricordi se dall'editor è modificabile la gestione midi dei comandi a pannello ? ( tipo se posso cambiare il chorus del piano elettrico in fx1 con un ring mod, stile gestione effetti del gemini, dal manuale non è chiaro il limite di programmabilità midi dello strumento in sè dall'editor, o dell'uso come master midi - anche se credo funzioni come il controller d9x )
@@Bridg3_Baby ciao, sì ricordo che potevo assegnare alcuni effetti a piacimento, a memoria non posso però essere più preciso purtroppo 🤗
@@marcoballa nessun problema, capisco che senza averlo sotto mano da un po' non si possa ricordare tutto, grazie cmq davvero delle info 😁
What is the meaning of "(uniquement VB3-II)" ; what is VB3-II ? is it sold with le keyboard ?
ciao!
VB3.2 is the name of vst/plugin software by Genuine Soundware (GSi):
www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=44
it's one of the best hammond and leslie emulator.
there is the software version (linked above) but you can find it already included inside the Crumar Mojo61/Mojo Classic/Mojo Suitcase and inside the GEMINI expander (DSP version).
@@marcoballa Ok, thank you marcoballa !
Sempre perfetti i tuoi video. Potresti darmi un consiglio. Sono in procinto di acquistare la versione expander mojo desktop, poichè ho 3 tastiere: 1) arturia keylab mkii 88, anche se analog lab V é completa, mi manca il vero suono hammond plugin arturia a 149 euro per avere decisamente un clone completo, peró delle volte mi va di suonare sound tipo B3 senza il mio mac, codì dal vivo. ;2) korg4x 76 tasti ;3) m-audio oxygen pro 61, a cui avevo collegato un legend che ho venduto per acquistare un ferrofish, ma ho avuto già 2 cambi per stesdo problema del plug di alimentazione difetto, ammesso dalla casa. Mi sono scocciato poichè é il 2 che mi cambiano, ma dopo pochi gg il difetto é sempre nell'accensione, dove per farlo funzionare sono costretto a ricorrere strategie tecniche per accenderlo, 30' di tempo ogni volta per accendersi. I svuoni non sono male. Adesso faró il cambio in negozio con il mojo, con una diff di +350 euro da versare al negozio. Desidero sapere se ha le stesse funzioni del 61?Sicuro di una tua risposta e ti ringrazio sempre per i tuoi tutorial. 🎉Sei un mito. Sinceramente Modesto
ciao, grazie mille per il tuo commento e le tue belle parole!
vedo che, come tutti noi "malati di hammond", anche tu le stai tentando tutte 😅😂
di sicuro l'expander Mojo è un altro pianeta rispetto al Ferrofish 👍
e sì, il mojo desktop ha esattamente stesso suono del Mojo61 con in più un display touch per l'editing (ma non ha i suoni di piano elettrico, clavinet, ecc.).
buon weekend 👍
@@marcoballa Grazie mille per la tempestiva risposta. Quando avevo 17 nel 71, presi un hammond italiano " pari". Poi ho sempre strimpellato sugli hammond di vecchie glorie palermitane. Purtroppo lo vendetti unitamente ad una gibson l. p del 68. Non avevo pagato alcune rate del mutuo, ah ah . Oggi cerco sonorità simili. Ho diversi plug in cloni hammond , ma dopo aver sentito varie tue registrazioni su mojio é il suono perfetto per ne. Solo che costa il doppio. Ferrofish lo devo restituire prenderó il mojo desktop. Ho avuto anche 2 viscount, un vecchio db e il legend che ho appena venduto, non mi soddisfaceva in alcuni aspetti( preset limitati, memoria scarsa per i miei preset). P. S. che pedali di controllo mi consigli per il mojo desktop? Io ho 2 switch pro ell, un ped volume con cambio polarità bespeco Grazie x il tuo saggio consiglio. Un b w end, Modesto con stima
@@mope7647 grazie a te 🙂
pedali... per la velocità della simulazione leslie va bene uno "switch" ON-OFF, quindi se i tuoi funzionano vanno più che bene.
per il pedale espressione, se ti trovi bene col Bespeco va bene anche quello :-)
qualcosa di più "sostanzioso" è il classico Yamaha FC 7, o il suo "clone" Behringer FCV100 V2
(ricorda che stiamo parlando di pedale ESPRESSIONE, non pedale volume 🙂)
Is Leslie effect can be changed with footpedal , please ? (from slow to fast , and fast to slow, or stopped)
Ciao, yes you can use a switch pedal 👍
@@marcoballa Thank you ; I've bought the keyboard yesterday...
@@ytpaletot1 great buy! 👍👍👍👍👍
Awesome work and sound Marco. Very helpful👍👍Question. Which clone do You prefer best for Classic Rock(Purple etc)? Mojo or HX3? All best/:Peter
thanks Peter!
at the moment Mojo and HX3 are both my favorites.
HX3 sounds INCREDIBLE into a real leslie (or Tornado), maybe the closest to my vintage C3.
Mojo61, with this incredible upgrade, is the best sounding with internal simulation (please note that the Mojo "classic" double manual has NOT this upgrade, at the moment)
Thanx for the info. Yeah this new upgrade is incredible!!:)
Bought one !
👍
Great demo for an even greater clonewheel! I'm considering buying one, and while skimming through the manual I found a paragraph about amp simulations. Loving Jon Lord's sound, I need some sort of Marshall simulator: do amps need to be selected via the Wi-Fi editor, too? It sounds a little inconvenient for live shows.
And, I know there isn't really an answer but... would you suggest the Mojo over the Legend? That is, ignoring the extra functions each instrument provides, is the Mojo's simulation (C/V and distortion-wise, above all) actually better than the Legend? That's the consensus on the web, but I couldn't read any discussion on the Legend after the 2018 updates. Thanks in advance for your time!
ciao!
first question...
amp is selectable with the editor for the electric pianos part and you can save it (type of amp/cabinet, equalization, gain, etc.) as default preset into the Mojo61.
I do not remember if you can do the same with organ (but I think so)
(I do not have the Mojo61 at home now)
second question...
they both sound great, each with its own personality.
in this moment I prefer the Mojo61, for leslie sim, keyclick and overdrive
but I use the HX3 board (my first choice now) :-)
@@marcoballa Just as I thought, thank you! Seems like the Mojo still has the edge on some aspects. I'll make an enquiry to Crumar about the amps. The fact that both Legend and the Mojo stopped getting updates in October 2018 (ironical synchrony!) somewhat concerns me, but I don't really think they're going to be replaced anytime soon.
P.S. Nice channel! Watching the X50 demoes reminded me of my first synth (or better, ROMpler), the PS60, which was basically the same keyboard but live-oriented: one of the many cheap but solid Triton heirs.
@@andy5178 thanks a lot!
for the price save to buy the cheapest hammond it will do the job
Very nice sound and playing! Also, what is that extra set of draw bars? That was one of the only things that I didn't like about the Mojo 61s was the lack of an extra set of drawbars, but it looks like you solved that!
Thanks a lot for comment!
The extra drawbars set is a new optional device (you can find it on the Crumar website)
@@marcoballa So, I have a mojo 61. If I buy a this drawbars and the Mojo 61B Lower Manual, can I have a full 2 organ like a mojo classic? I will need something else?
@@edugarciamartinez626 yes, you'll obtain a "modular" dual manual with same sound of the Classic (plus the addictional piano/clavinet sounds - not present on the Classic - ).
my examples here:
czcams.com/video/wG83hQIuGMk/video.html
and here:
czcams.com/video/BlBrVhfZhnw/video.html
Sounds good. I don‘t understand why the 2nd set of drawbars is in that box on top of the organ, though.
It's an optional additional device (available on Crumar website)
Because they didn't put them in the right place to begin with-if you are playing bass, drawbars on the left slows everything. Thanks for the video!
Custom Leslie settings or stock? Which organ model # are you using?
just little tweaking on cabinet presence/resonance and overdrive.
organ model... maybe one of the C3s
(I do not have the Mojo at home now and I'm not able to remember)
@@marcoballa Thank you. I wonder if they will add a Leslie connector as they did on the Mojo XT? I want to buy Mojo61 but I think I should wait since they just updated the Mojo. I would like to see more drawbars but for $100 they sell the drawbar box.
Every demo of yours is great. I wonder if you ever had the chance to play with a Yamaha Reface YC.
thanks a lot!
I tested the YC just for few minutes into a store...
(I just tested the CP - video here:
czcams.com/video/XYct_YoRus4/video.html )
If you're still struggling to decide which way to go, here are my two pennies' worth. I own the YC and several software clonewheels (notably, the VB3-II, that is the Mojo's software version). For the price, the YC sounds quite good: you won't find anything better on generalist keyboards (not even on the Roland VR 09), it's a true Hammond emulation. Its Achille's heels are the C/V (mediocre) and the distortion (which is beyond terrible), but the base sound is nonetheless - almost - the same you'd find on top-notch older clone (like an Electro 4).
All that said, I'd still wouldn't recommend it for an obvious reason: you'll soon start craving for a full keyboard and a state-of-the-art simulation, especially if you play in a band. And, compared to the Mojo or the Legend, there's an unbridgeable difference. Bear also in mind that the drawbars do not correspond to actual ones: they have 5-6 steps compared to the canonical 8. The YC is an excellent stopgap solution, nothing more, nothing less. You'd better keep saving for a Legend or a Mojo, just like I'm doing right now!
@@andy5178 I agree with all of that about the YC. I run mine through a fender practice amp (Mustang) that has some amp modeliing. That gives a nicer choice of distortions rather than the built in. Sometimes the Leslie on fast sound a bit wobbly. I only bough the YC as a easy way to play organ at home and camping/portable occasions. Interested to see how serious the organ is on the new YC61. I doubt they will have gone into the extreme detailed emulation studies as seen on the mojo/vb3-ii. But it's a tempting offer with all its other sounds.
Sounds XK2-ish. The nord seems a bit tighter to me. Great playing though
Thanks for comment 👍
Where are the extra set of drawbars from
www.crumar.it/?a=page&p=D9U
how do the 61 and XT compare?
Mojo 61 and GEMINI have the same DSP board and they are now a step above the Mojo dual (and XT) and Hamichord, in term of leslie sim and tube saturation sim.
last new upgrade for Mojo 61 (here in the video) is not available (for the moment) for the Mojo dual (and XT) and Hamichord. maybe some similar upgrade will be released in the future for the old pc based board (Mojo dual, XT and Hamichord).
@@marcoballa That's what people were saying about their dual manual Mojos vs the 61 key. The 61 key has better overall everything, but there seems to be some quality control issues in the dual manual models.
@@nickyates541 no issues at all for me... on the other hand I had problems with other clonewheels (Suzuki and Nord) so I think all of them has the same chance to have or not have issues (like any other keyboard/workstation/synth)
What is the drawbar box on top ?
Ciao!
It's the additional drawbar kit from Crumar:
www.crumar.it/?a=page&p=D9U
My wonderful Mojo 61 definitely has some issues, too. I don't think I have experienced a total breakdown as shown in the video, but It has some noise issues. The "funny" thing is that the audio outputs are always perfect sounding, but it's like the whole thing acts like a noise transmitter. The noise is not hum or white noise, its "computer static". The noise can easily be picked up by a nearby electric guitar, which is problematic. I have been in contact with Crumar, but so far I haven't found a solution. The unit is still under Thomann warranty, and I consider sending it back which is a shame since I love the sound of it. Next time I go with Nord.. I'm an electronics tech doing audio repairs for a living, so I'm pretty sure the Mojo is the problem...
These are NOT issues!!!!!!
These are all the capabilities of internal virtual modeling (noises, etc.).
So probabably you just have to properly tweak it 🤣
You can just eliminate all noises with the app/editor...
NO BREAKDOWN in this video!!!!
What if you don’t want any of that low frequency noise?
Engineers and producers always use EQ and HP filters to get rid of low frequency noise from the signal path. It’s like having old single coil hum in a guitar sample because you want”vintage”. To me, that noise isn’t musical.
This was just a demo of what you can obtain with new virtual modeling. If you don't want all noises you just turn them off.
In a real vintage hammond and leslie, more or less, you always have some of these noises. If you tweak the Mojo in a reasonable way you obtain the same result
Have you found your mojo to be reliable?
Yes, it is.
I also have a Seven from Crumar (no problem at all) and a 10 years old Hamichord from Crumar too still working OK after dozens of live concerts
@@marcoballa Excellent! I like the tone of the mojo better than mostly all of the other clone wheels that I have heard. Thanks for the videos, they have helped me in deciding which to go with.
Yo!
De loin supérieur au "SK2" !!
Easy Livin hahah
Sounds SO NASTY!