Crawler Canyon Junkview: fake BFG KM3 (1.9")
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- We turn a one time thing into maybe a recurring thing, as the fake Canyon Trails were actually not half bad. But will lightning strike twice with the faux BF Goodrich KM3?
Nuofany NOT 2.2 BFG KM3s. amzn.to/43jJgZF
The tires are 100% 1.9s, despite what the Amazon listing and the sidewalls say.
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easy to install on injora rims but takes a little time when screwing together, DON'T screw each screw down all the way work them down together a couple of turns at a time. I put six sets together that way and didn't have any problems.
I bought that same tire on Aliexpress with no expectations other then if would look scale, i took them out in snow and wet rocks and it was okey at best, but i have been driving them a bit now and they are getting better and better. im really happy with them for 30$ shipped to iceland.
Love your stuff man good job definitely help the people
Yea he does. Inspired me to do hair buns.
LMAO when he tumbled down the beast 😂 god I love this channel! Thank you.
Performance aside that wheel/tire combo looks real good on it
(Edit) seeing the performance it reminds me a lot of PL km3 predator a buddy of mine ran a couple months back
I don't know if that speaks highly of the clones, or is a scathing indictment of PL Predator KM3s. We already know the TimTin foams are every bit as good as the PL dual-stage for 1/3 the cost. If the cloners are getting close to the compound...
Love the junk veiw series
Yeah I bought these for my crawler. That didn't work out. So I tried them on the go fast truck. They worked great at high speed on loose dirt and gravel.
I'm looking forward to this series! Changing foams drastically improved the performance of my Baja ProX knock-offs (even unvented).
COOOL HUHWHIPP!
Haha. Area #12 looks fun. Saw some more canyon I haven't seen again. Keeps getting better. I don't know why but the number 6.4 out of 10 comes to mind with those tires hahah. I think they would be a great RTR box stock tire glued to a rim.
I vote give the tires 1 or 2 more runs to see if some how once broken in they surprise you a little more haha 😅 maybe they can run a wheelin Wednesday!
Give it the beans
We should be so lucky as to have a stock tire (not counting what's on a Phoenix RTR) this good. Up against a Grabber, Grappler, VXT, etc, these are downright amazing.
I too have been through the buying tires program. Every rig handles different with each of the tires I try. Every tyre from what I see, has it's place, time and temp. Some tires are great cold, others are very bad in the cold. Those very bad cold tires get warmed up and it's an all new tire again. There are no crawler canyons here in in Maine but there is a lot of dirt, sand, mud and boulders. Crawling indoors all winter on a dusty wood terrain is a whole different world. What will be my next tire........
A quote fromJim Morrison said this is the strangest tire I've ever known..
Jim is not wrong. The traction profile is absolutely bizarre, and the forward drive is WAY too good for Amazon junk. Just as the AIs are learning to be us, the cloners are getting better. We can still tell we're being bamboozled, but it's getting less obvious.
@@CrawlerCanyon So, is this the end - my only friend? But seriously, that was bizarre..
I feel more like we've only just begun... to liiiiiiiiiivvve
Of the Amazon tires I have these are the best ones I have (brand Hotstorm). Mine don't have the BF Goodrich badging on them. Oh and the foam with mine were a grey foam almost like a memory foam. Mine were easy to install on Injora wheels.
I know you don't do Pro-Line, but I'd love to see how the Krawlers, Hyrax, and Trenchers would do on your course.
I still chuckle whenever I think about the Trencher, which is now and has always been a monster truck tire. They just scaled it down and were like, "it's for crawling now!" Those were the famous 2.8" that dry-rotted off of the wheels in less than 9 months-- and the compounds weren't nearly as exotic then.
@@CrawlerCanyon And so we need you to enlighten us. You proved that the RC4WD ProX is shite, keep the streak going! Just 'cause it sells well doesn't mean it's worth the money.
I was surprised to see how well they performed for being a fake. Not a fan of how they mount though. Thanks for these off the wall reviews! I/we would probably never know how these imposter products are and how they perform!
The boom racing hustler is a terrible tire to begin with. The hyrax clone tire isnt to bad. The KLR clone was a bad tire too. Like you I was impressed with the 2.2 canyon trail clones and just like the real ones they work better if you do some modifications. The tires you are testing today are just like the proline Mud Terrain which is a pretty good scale tire. This was very enertaining and quite funny to watch the tires get better the more you drove it.
I got a set of these for $13 for all four, they were listed as 2.2 but they're 1.9. They may not perform great but they look great on my trail truck.
They're so much better than they have any right to be. I can look at an actual pile of name-brand tires that are about the same level of performance. Which is not a good look for the $30-a-pair-tires.
Interesting results for sure. One thing that puts me off about the Amazon stuff us that there are like a million "companies" all selling very similar stuff and I don't trust that there's any kind of consistency in their products. Knockoffs if knockoffs of knockoffs? One factory having the same stuff sold under a million names? Who knows? Sidenote: Have you ever tried something like a Jconcepts The Hold?
I wouldn't count on any consistency from the Amazon clone dealers-- I have two sets of identical rims, and one came with unmentioned brass rings so it's twice as heavy as the other. There have to be a hundred different "super swamper rocks tyre" listing, and who knows if any of them are... umm... not terrible?
As to the JConcepts Hold, czcams.com/video/57bWjwp4Q4w/video.html
Hey, GREAT Video, just found channel, like content. That is a little extreme rock crawling, they look like the real thing, good for shelf queen (with little expense) or maybe good as a trail tire on a budget built.
Yeah, I think on something that does more trailing than crawling, these would be a better option than the real thing, as they're just plain cheap.
Worst shocks are the bypass LXshocks for the UDR. They're actual bypass shocks and look amazing, but leak from 18 places per shock 😂 Oh and the shock body's eat the pistons like sand paper within a few short runs lol
I dunno-- the RC4WD King dual-spring shocks wouldn't damp with anything lighter than 240wt, and managed to leak out 7000cst, which is something like 500wt.
@@CrawlerCanyon Sounds about like the LXshocks I got 😆 That's horrible to still leak with that thick of oil though. The LX ones damped ok until the 3rd pack, then no damping at all, and the shock rod was loose. Took it apart and the piston was about half its original size. Contacted the company and they wanted me to send them $70 dollars to replace their bad shocks. I paid $180 for those shocks with shipping, that's only for 2 shocks
@@TheAmericanUhate 😳 I still haven't managed to get myself to buy Dravtechs. I got close, they didn't have the color I wanted, so I built some 2660s. Ninety bucks a shock is way too rich for my blood-- I've replaced 1:1 shocks for less.
I've got some rc4wd interco iroks that has actually been really good on my trx4, with squids of course. You should try some of those out sometime. They're a lot better than expected, and that's from a guy that hates rc4wd 😂
Might benefit from a bit of wear. Interesting results.
Trying to find the right/perfect tire has really drained me and my wallet lol. I get on the CZcams and watch people have all the luck then I get a set of the ones i seen and they don't work for crap. So each crawler I have has several sets of tires. Trying to find the right tire for my area has sorta driven me crazy. Complete madness the crawling hobby haha.
Can relate. Probably 30 sets here not mounted to anything? Pushing close to a dozen sets that just don't work. It's an issue.
@@CrawlerCanyon gotta say those boom racing hustlers are the absolute worst tires I've ever come across though. These tires shouldn't even be given away.
@@jasonbickford4283 The faKM3s are worlds better than the Hustlers. Incomparable. These did better than some $30 a pair tires, and I was wholly unprepared for it.
I have a set of injora ottsix klrm mud tires that seemed pretty good for my 1.9 ryft with hairbuns. They seem ok. After getting the knockoffs I did get a set of legit ottsix klrm's in the red compound. I put them on a 1.9 wraith with a much different setup. More for crawling. The real McCoy's are better but I am surprised how close the injoras are even tho they are on different vehicles. I know vehicle selection makes the most difference
What might be a big part of this is that there are some tires that rely on tread shape/pattern more than they do compound-- the Canyon Trail is the king of this, and I think why the clones were actually decent. Same for any of the huge-lugged Ottsix, like the KLR/M and USD Sticky. So there might be a bit of that here, as the compound of the faKM3s feels like... stretchy but also firm, somehow? I think they're using a firmer rubber, but just made a thinner carcass, so they "cheated" some compliance.
@Crawler Canyon I definitely agree with the tread design playing a big part, the compound is different for sure. I replaced the tires that were on the wraith with the klrm's. The tires that were replaced were the knockoff rock beast xls. Those things sucked compared to even the knockoff klrms. The knock off compound of the klrms was much closer to the legitimate ottsix tires. To be fair I don't have any other quality tires besides the ottsixs'. A the other tires I have are either axial tires or scamazon specials. Your content and outlook is very helpful and interesting to say the very least
hey ,these are not bad at all - i think with time all these Amazon/aliexpress will get better - they sure are trying a lot -they will stumble uppon a good one eventually - these tires mab get better with some running time -
Seems to be a really good allround tire and at that price it´s a bargain.
Also those are proline copies. My proline bfg km3's look identical to those, other than the 2.2 thing lol
Of the clones, they're some of the closest I've seen. They even feel right, not like the usual Amazon rubber.
@@CrawlerCanyon You tried my proline version of those KM3's when I brought the chop top phoenix the other day, the amazon ones in your video here did just about as well I think too. Mine are in the predator compound, I wanted G8 but that's all the local shop had. Going to get some Tusks after trying yours 😆
Do a review on some Duratrax Fossils
czcams.com/video/J9Ui73yIcfU/video.html
It looks like the clones are getting softer/better rubber compounds. Still not as good as the real deals, but the gap might closer than it used to be. I wonder how these perform compared to a glued standard canyon trail. Also wondering how well they do with other budget inserts like hair buns or timtins. I'm really curious how close the injora klrm is to the new voodoo red compound, how close is the performance vs the cost.
You don’t reckon you could review some rc4wd Mickey Thompson Baja pro X’s cause they look really cool but I’ve heard mixed opinions on them. (I run on a mix of loose stone and larger slabs where canyon trails do damn well but I want something more scale/aggressive in C1 size for a trx4 k10 build)
czcams.com/video/MeNdeO6cYFU/video.html
@@CrawlerCanyon ah cheers didn’t see that
Nice👍
I’d like to see you test proline BRG krawler tires, I hear they’re especially great while wet
Get Pro-Line to send 'em over and I'll gripe about them at length. Haven't bought Pro-Line in close to 15 years, see no reason to break the streak.
May I request a junkview of the flash hobby 35a speed control? Its advertised as being for crawlers, and specifically for outrunners. For $32 it was too cheap to pass on. Ive already ordered it, but am curious what your impression would be on it as a fellow outrunner addict.
Now you know I ordered one of those. Had no choice. The lack of an internal BEC is offset by the postage-stamp size and near postage-stamp weight, so I'm just curious to find out if it's just a half-wired AM32, and how much I'm going to have to do with the laptop to get it going. It is alarmingly cheap (even bare boards on AE go for around the same) but pre-judging it's definitely going to at best be an "I don't want to wait" option compared to the Rhino. The Rhino brings that 10A BEC and a programmer (no more arduino!) and those two factors alone give it the edge over absolutely anything else. But this is cheap, small, and desperately makes me want to put an outrunner in something dumb, like Lil' Fella.
I just bought some from injora that had the same tread as these but don't say BF Goodrich on them. I wonder if they are the same. I didn't have any trouble mounting mine.
On a separate note I would love to see some content from you on how you do your shock setups.
Thanks for great videos!
I haven't seen any other copies of the KM3 myself, but can say pretty confidently that if there's anything at all different about the sidewall, it's a different tire.
We gotta know, will 3D inserts make a significant difference in performance? Haha
That's the crawler equivalent of putting $2000 worth of stereo equipment in a $600 Honda Civic. 🤣
Fair point lol Love your channel man. Keep up the good work!
Whaddaya think about testing non-vented tires, Doc?
Grrrrrrrr
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I got mine when they were $12😂
What is a good sticky wide tire for the scx10 3? Lobe all the videos ty for all the tips and reviews. Are amazon aliexpress rims good?
Every wheel here was sourced from Amazon, no exceptions. I have too many rigs to buy "real" wheels.
As to what's a good tire, that sure depends on where you're using it. Nothing Pitbull works here, but people have great luck with them elsewhere.
So I'll just default to "Duratrax Deep Woods."
what is a good grade for now.. more testing in the future.
These are honestly like a C+/B-, which is astonishing for Amazon junk. I think once the tread blocks start to feather, they'll get a little better forward drive. I also need to remember that these are a scale tire (based on a real thing) and scale tires are NEVER (well, a handful of exceptions) as good as anything crawler-specific.
@@CrawlerCanyon thank you the info and the entertainment.
I really don't think, that your way of holding the transmitter is normal or common. If you hold it as a gun pointing straight forward, and you are bringing you right arm all the way to left side of your body, then no wonder you feel tension in your body. I would easily risk claiming majority of people hold transmitter in front of their belly, thus pointing to the right on an angle. This means tilted wheel as in Dumbo and MANY other radios of multiple price, helps tremendously. You are not happy with a top $ feature on a budget radio, because you use a transmitter in an awkward position.
Range- criticising range on a radio system powered by 4 random AA batteries, while it's supporting HIGH VOLTAGE, which is again top $ feature on a budget radio, is a rookie approach, and you're not a rookie in RC or reviewing.
Function/setting location in menus. I'd argue there is some logic to it. You do mixing per car/vehicle, not per transmitter. Where do you expect this feature to be, if not in Model menu? It's a very exclusive setting, you might use on one model in your (say) 20 model memory. It should be in model menu imo, not cluttering main menu etc.
Voltage warnings- yeah I agree, but then again, both transmitter and receiver support HV, and you are using this FOR REVIEW on borderline flat batteries and you're crying about voltage warnings?
I like your reviews, but it was painful to watch this. Maybe you had a bad day or something, this was not objective review, and piss poor performance from experienced reviewer.
On top of menu faults- this crazy price radio supports firmware updates, and some stuff most likely be changed/improved. Unlike so many other cheap radios. One more thing to consider. Banggood is not shipping them yet.
Are those on AliExpress official releases, or are they isdt esc70 situation?
Going for an early review is cash grab channel style, and you're not one of them. If any of your viewers or friends, would be willing to share a later purchased piece, maybe it's worth a retest, even without a video.
Here's something that I'd like you-- and I'm talking to YOU specifically-- need to understand: I don't have to like everything. I don't HAVE to like ANYthing. If I don't like something and you do, that doesn't make me wrong, and it doesn't make you right. It just means we have a difference of opinion. Let's ignore everything I said and (blissfully) everything you said-- the wheel and trigger tension are ghastly, and I wouldn't make myself live with it. I'm not standing up 90% of the time I'm driving, so I'm not resting my radio on my stomach-- that doesn't mean I'm "using it wrong." I guess what it means is that the Dumbo isn't suited to me, or vice versa. I don't like the ergonomics of the radio, and no firmware update is going to change that. How's about they get it right from the go, and then they don't have to fix it in post?
I'll close by saying this: maybe English isn't your first language, so maybe there's something lost in translation. And I'm all for discourse, the comments are one of my favorite parts of the channel. But so help me, if you EVER come in these comments with that tone again, it will be the last time. If you think you have the qualifications to come in here and put me on blast, I'll tell you right now: you do not. Think you can do better? Go do better.