A cost-effective solution for distributing in-ear stage monitoring!
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- čas přidán 31. 08. 2017
- Radio units?
Batteries?
Hassle?
Uncertainty?
Crackling?
Out of range?
Cables not long enough?
Not with this - a solution using XLR mic cables to throw stereo headphone signals round a stage of any size....
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I like it. Very good Solution, for me its the best. Very Inteligent for many reasons. Regards from Portugal.
This is exactly what I'm gonna do. I have only 2 aux outs and want to share it with every musician on stage. Thanks!
Ciao marco, si riesce con due soli aux a collegare l'intera band? se sì, come?
@@andreadigregorio2497 ciao Andrea! Quanti siete e che modello di amplificatore hai? Con 2 aux puoi creare 2 mix separati, quindi se la tua intenzione è quella di fare avere a ciascun membro un mix personalizzato ovviamente no(a meno che la band non sia composta da 2 persone). Quello che puoi fare però è usare i 2 aux come canali left e right di un segnale stereo e collegarle all'amplificatore. In questo modo puoi distribuire il segnale stereo, tramite questo amplificatore, a più di 2 persone nella band (es: se il tuo amificatore ha 4 uscite cuffie, fino a 4 persone). Ognuno avrà un segnale stereo.
Alternativamente puoi creare 2 mix separati. Sul mio amplificatore ogni uscita cuffia può scegliere se vuole ascoltare solo il canale destro (in mono), solo il sinistro(in mono) o entrambi (stereo, appunto): per cui potresti ad esempio, usare aux 1 per il mix che va ai chitarristi, e aux 2 per il mix che va al bassista e batterista.
Spero di essere stato chiaro, se hai domande chiedi pure!
@@MrGalassi accidenti! gentilissimo! allora siamo in 5 usiamo tutti digitale( chi helix, chi Kemper o microfoni) motivo per cui usciamo tutti da PA.
stavamo pensando di mettere su un iem system per poterci sentire tutti attraverso gli auricolari e con anche il click sotto sincronizzato, ho guardato un po' in giro e sembrava necessario prendersi un mixer con almeno 5 aux a cui collegare 5 centraline con i relativi bodypack ad ognuno di noi.. solo che tra mixer e i 5 sistemi in ear mi sembra abbastanza scomodo e oneroso.. avresti qualche altro metodo/ prodotto che risulti più economico da consigliarci? magari adattabili ai vari mixer tipo che sono disponibili nelle varie sale prove/ situazioni live.
Perdonami la tempesta di domande ma è un mondo completamente inesplorato per me 😂
@@andreadigregorio2497 quindi a voi va bene che tutti abbiano lo stesso mix di riferimento, corretto?
@@MrGalassi si, andrebbe bene!
bravo :)
How is the noise on this amp? Is it noticeable? Should I buy a power conditioner to help reduce noise?
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Please I would like need advice. I have headphone amplifier Behringer HA6000 Which one exactly cable I can use for my audio inference Native Instruments KOMPLETE AUDIO 2 ? Because I would like working with them both.. Please send me link on amazon
Wouldn't it be better to make it 2 piece cable (1/4 -XLR Male >>XLR female-headphone out) or just make a DIY extension cable (1/4-3.5mm out)
Very good idea, are these sold in the shops or i have to do them my self ??
Don't do this. You are going to spend 50 dollars on one set of pig tails, you wont solder them correctly, one will fail and one will get lost and then you're fucked. Just buy long stereo extension cables.
Seems great! But without a personal headphone amp you won't be able to change volume yourself during the show, that's really the only issue I can see.
if my mixer currently does not have enough monitor out ,in which case on mine they're called mon sends what do you suggest? my first mon out is our monitor and my 2nd one is for my shure psm 200. i want the 3 other members to be able to hear themselves . what do i need? another mixer? behind the mixer available i have power amp in left and right . master output left and right and an aux send
If your mixer has a headphone jack then run a stereo cable from the headphone out to the input of the headphone amplifier, you only need one stereo output to run the amplifier. You dont use umpteen aux sends for monitoring.
Most mixer aux can only be heard in one side of the earphones. Do I need 8 outputs of my mixer for the 4 inputs in the Behringer amp so I can hear in both sides of the headphones?
I think all you’ll need is a mono adapter for your headphones to hear both sides
Can you bump up the volume on it? I can’t
Could I still use this headphone amplifier, with a behringer xr18 And be able to have individual control on iPhone/tablet? Every method I see is people just using wireless transmitter for the Xr18 and I absolutely do not want to do that
Yeah should be fine. As the Behringer XR18 is XLR out, you could wire auxes 1 and 2 from XLR into a single stereo Jack that goes into the headphone amp. this allows stereo monitoring. Then using the above method in the video to send across stage. The wiring of the XLRs is
XLR aux 1 pin 1-ground, pin 2, signal, pin 3 ground
XLR aux 2 as above
Other end of the two cables going into headphone Jack:
XLR aux 1 signal wire to tip of jack
XLR aux 2 signal wire to ring of jack
Grounds all wired together to sleeve of Jack.
Hey! Good afternoon, would you have the technical schematic of this device HA4700 - POWERPLAY PRO-XL 4
Can I just buy 2 of these if I need more inputs? Like daisy chain them together? What will it affect? Or will it not make any difference
If you connect two pairs of headphones up to an amplifier, you will notice a drop in level, and it can also burn out an amplifier if the headphones are chunky enough. Best to get a multi channel headphone amp. Most of these can deal with single inputs though, meaning everyone can have the same mix but with dedicated volume controls
My audio mixer only has 4 aux channels. Am I going to be able to use more than 4 headphones with this box or no ?.
miguel ortiz hi Miguel: you may be able to run two pairs of headphones off one cable, but they’ll be the same mix.
you can actually plug in 3 sets of headphones for each channel, there are 2 more sockets per channel on the back. But you will always have only 4 controllable channels . This unit also comes with an aux in for each amplifier so you can insert a more me signal , IE a DI return.
You only need one aux channel to run the entire headphone amp. The amount of channels the amplifier has determines how many channels you can use. In this case his amp has 4 so if you need more, get another amp and daisy chain it to the first and youve got 8 headphone channels.
Isnt it a bad idea to send an unbalanced signal over a large distance? You could get all sorts of interference on the headphones. I mean, it is maybe a tat more expensive but I would rather give out Behringer Powerplay P2s and distribute the signal via balanced XLR right to the musician... The cabeling is more or less the same.
The output impedance of an amplifier is basically zero, which means that interference on a speaker/headphone cable is zero.
Only issue I can see is that you don't have volume control on your person. You have to go back to the unit to adjust it :/
Yes-that is the only trouble. Still, it’s a cheap way if getting round a problem. The way round it is to have a small amp next to you that can process the audio from the monitor amp-the output impedance of the headphone amp is low enough to drive its signal far enough to be amplified by a “local” amp, allowing each performer individual master level control..
Dan Baker it's all good. I bought the 8 channel version on this. I have a digital desk and connected everyone via their device, they simply control their volume from there :)
@@officialWWM did you went for the HA8000? If yes then did you just use a long headphone extension cable, or you follow the wiring in this video?
My QSC TouchMix 16 has 6 Aux Outs, this can work.
Yes
There are a couple of things that suck about this setup.
1) the IEMs are not independent. You can't adjust the separate mixes. The same exact mix will be shared.
2) this would really suck for mobile musicians, especially rock bands. Especially vocalists or anyone who's standing. XLR cables are heavy and bulky, and it would really suck if the XLR cable weight yanked out the IEM. I think it's better to get a 1/4 inch stereo male jack to 3.5mm female jack that's really long, duck tape it so no one trips on it, then get clip on ear buds.
With point 1): the point here is that separate mixes can be obtained if you have independent headphone amps (as I have here). With point 2): mini jacks are horrid. With an XLR connector, its bulky enough to go in ones pocket with a headphone adapter. I use this set up every weekend without fault, and not a single battery has been purchased!
@ Stony- Sir I would say that you are wrong. Two weeks ago I used the six channel version and there are six independent/separate inputs and six separate/independent outputs. Drummer, bass, two keyboard players plus guitar and a sax. every one had his own mix and lead singer used two floor wedges up front so do a lil more research next time before you post..
@@DanBakerMusic how do you achieve a "more me" configuration on the HA8000? We're a 6 piece band, our instruments and mics go straight to a mixer the mixer out goes to thr HA8000 then from the HA8000 to our IEMs but everytime one of us wants more volume, we end up increasing the volume for all of us which dedeats the purpose. Any solution to this? Thanks!
By “mixer goes out to ha8000”, that’s your problem. If you send a single channel to the main input then that will be distributed across all headphone outs. If you have a few aux sends then you can go from the aux send to a direct in on the back of the ha8000 which gives you “more me”.
I dont see whats so hard to understand about these headohone amplifiers, they aren't rocket surgery. You only need one headphone jack on the mixer or one monitor send to power the entire amplifier. You don't need to send it 4 different inputs from the board. If you use a headphone out from the board use a stereo cable. If you use a mono monitor send, use a mono cable and plug it in one click into the amp so it powers both left and right. From your board you control each instrument channel from the monitor send pre fader which doesn't affect front of house or you can run it post fader which WILL affect front of house.
Wizzle I’ve been doing this for years! Four channels means four independent mixes. As the Behringer has stereo jacks, they may be wired from 8 output lines from a digital desk, giving four musicians stereo in ear monitoring. I’ve found battery belt packs to be unreliable in the past, but they’ve got much better recently.
As a former EMI studio engineer (1990s), I understand pretty much all there is to know about connectors and audio wiring...
The heck was this?
I still use it on stage. Haven’t bought a 9V battery for years...