From what I've gathered, there's a vital part missing to these instructions. Marks 1 and 2 merely indicate the size of the eye, but not the place. The throat of the eye is not where marks 1 and 2 meet, but rather where marks X1 and X2 meet. Make note of this if you need specific lengths of rope
I am trying to put an eye splice in the 1/4" Sampson Warpspeed II but the eye I need is shorter than the 4,1/2" Z length that is posted on your splicing instructions for Double Braid Class II. Is there an adjustment I can make for this?
Apologies for the late reply. You can find our splice kits and tools through one of our distributors near your location. Visit www.samsonrope.com/resources/find-a-distributor for more info.
When making spices on these ropes there's a certain amount of rope shortening due to the splice, and a certain amount of lengthening from the initial elongation. Do you have a chart that has these amounts listed? We need quite specific lengths, and the amount lost to shortening/lengthening can be difficult to predict.
Gregory - apologies for the late reply. We don't have a chart to reference, but for Class II or high-performance rope splices, we know we lose a quarter fid length for every fid length buried, and when burying two fid lengths, you lose a half fid length of the total consumption. Here’s an example using a two fid length bury. 21’’ (Length of one Fid) x 2 = 42" + 10.5’’ (Length of one-half Fid) = 52.5’’. Take this number and add it to the eye size needed: 52.5’’ + 6’’ = 58.5’’, and this is the total length of extra rope required for a sling with a 6’’ eye on one end.
@@SamsonRope So, I've just spliced some 5/16" GPX, and the numbers aren't making sense. I'm making a sling with spliced eyes on both ends. I need the final length of the sling from pull to pull to be 11'6". Based on the numbers you provided I measured out 11'6" + ((fid 6.75" x 2) + (length of half a fid 3.375") + 5.75" eye = 22.625" for each side, total 45. 375") for a total line length of 15' 3.375". After the first splice was made I remeasured from the pull and got a length of 14' 1", which means a loss of only 14.375" as opposed to the 22.625" I accounted for. I presume if I splice the other side the same as I did the first one I will end up with a sling longer than I need. Did I do something wrong or measure incorrectly in some way?
This is the best Class 2 eye splice video I've found - thank you!
Best splice I’ve ever seen with Samson rope
Thank you very much. This video, along with your .pdf was instrumental in producing my own beautiful eye splices!
Why make things more complicated with another splice?
Since the only difference appears to be material and not construction.
From what I've gathered, there's a vital part missing to these instructions. Marks 1 and 2 merely indicate the size of the eye, but not the place. The throat of the eye is not where marks 1 and 2 meet, but rather where marks X1 and X2 meet. Make note of this if you need specific lengths of rope
I am trying to put an eye splice in the 1/4" Sampson Warpspeed II but the eye I need is shorter than the 4,1/2" Z length that is posted on your splicing instructions for Double Braid Class II. Is there an adjustment I can make for this?
Apologies for the late reply. The Z length should not effect the eye length. It will create more cover slack to bury the splice and this will be okay.
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How can I get the tools you are working with and what are they called , is there somewhere I can buy them , could you help me please , Thank you
Apologies for the late reply. You can find our splice kits and tools through one of our distributors near your location. Visit www.samsonrope.com/resources/find-a-distributor for more info.
When making spices on these ropes there's a certain amount of rope shortening due to the splice, and a certain amount of lengthening from the initial elongation. Do you have a chart that has these amounts listed? We need quite specific lengths, and the amount lost to shortening/lengthening can be difficult to predict.
Gregory - apologies for the late reply. We don't have a chart to reference, but for Class II or high-performance rope splices, we know we lose a quarter fid length for every fid length buried, and when burying two fid lengths, you lose a half fid length of the total consumption. Here’s an example using a two fid length bury. 21’’ (Length of one Fid) x 2 = 42" + 10.5’’ (Length of one-half Fid) = 52.5’’. Take this number and add it to the eye size needed: 52.5’’ + 6’’ = 58.5’’, and this is the total length of extra rope required for a sling with a 6’’ eye on one end.
@@SamsonRope that's super helpful, thanks
@@SamsonRope So, I've just spliced some 5/16" GPX, and the numbers aren't making sense. I'm making a sling with spliced eyes on both ends. I need the final length of the sling from pull to pull to be 11'6". Based on the numbers you provided I measured out 11'6" + ((fid 6.75" x 2) + (length of half a fid 3.375") + 5.75" eye = 22.625" for each side, total 45. 375") for a total line length of 15' 3.375". After the first splice was made I remeasured from the pull and got a length of 14' 1", which means a loss of only 14.375" as opposed to the 22.625" I accounted for. I presume if I splice the other side the same as I did the first one I will end up with a sling longer than I need. Did I do something wrong or measure incorrectly in some way?
If this is the easiest way to do an eye splice in Dyneema double braided line, I see why riggers charge so much!
Very bad video too complicate.