Is UGREEN NAS Worthy of Your $$$? We Review the UGREEN DXP6800 Pro!
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- A new NAS vendor has entered the chat - welcome UGREEN! With much fanfare UGREEN has raised over $5 million on KickStarter, reinforcing the market appetite for NAS alternatives. We know UGREEN from their power stations, which have been highlighted by rugged build and impressive design.
Now with their line of NAS products, UGREEN aims to shake up another industry. In this video we review the UGREEN NASync DXP6800 Pro. This is their 6-bay unit (with dedicated boot SSD and two M.2 expansion slots), with an impressive hardware spec. Central to the NAS is a 12th Generation Intel Core i5 CPU with 10 Cores 12 Threads. This is paired with 8GB of DDR5, expandable to 64GB. UGREEN has also included twin 10GbE ports on board in addition to twin Thunderbolt 4 ports.
And there's much more...the hardware spec is impressive, but what about performance and usability? Brian and Kevin dive into all of that in this video review of the UGREEN DXP6800 Pro NAS.
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Glad to finally see a 6-bay UGreen NAS review! I backed the 8-bay and would like to see that next! If these UGreen NAS'es performs as expected then I might get this 6-bay too as an off-site backup.
The hardware specs of these UGreen NAS'es just puts Synology to shame. This is coming from someone who owns and luvs his Synology NAS'es and have them for years. 😅
literally been begging in any ads i get to see this pro or 8 bay reviewed for the pcie
Synology has always been behind on hardware design, but these even best QNAP in this category, really very impressive. Started shooting our video today for the flash NAS. More to come!
@@denirodarkqwerty PCIe specifically - what are you looking for here?
@@StorageReview I'm also interested in this like what wifi card can you put on it or gpu. A wifi 7 card would be awesome to take advantage of the cpu and speed and gpu for transcoding.
@@xellaz we don't have any short length M.2 GPUs, that's going to be a tough one. We have the full hardware breakdown on our Discord if you want to tear into that, no room here to post it all.
I hope you do further testing on DXP6800 Pro like the power consumption and more.
That would be great, especially idle power consumption with 10G connected and parked HDDs would interest me
Hopefully you guys can shed a light on its energy consumption. First reports looked a bit high.
Maybe we can come back to that. We do have the tools.
Yes please do it :)
I'd like to see a small 12 to 24 bay ssd setup with the ssd's oriented vertically to save space, use quick latch and oriented backwards onto the mounting plate/board that acts as a heat sink. Small fans to pull or push air across the ssd's from the rear. I think that setup could fit perfectly in a Mac mini sized footprint (or slightly smaller-shorter)
I just added the 6-bay too along with my previous 8-bay I backed after seeing in Amazon that QNAP's & Synology's 6-bay NAS'es I'm looking at are between $700-$1000+ that doesn't even come close to specs UGreen has. 😮💨Worse come to worst.... I can just install TrueNAS or unRAID if UGreen's software is not up to par by the time I get it. 😅
Amazing hardware and build quality. If UGREEN gets its software sorted. It will be an amazing NAS.
They've been steadily adding...docker support popped up.
But my understanding is that this is their weak spot. They sell accessories, not software. It could be horrendous.
Nice starting with raid6, I get a lot of hate with recommending raid6 for primary storage when you have 5 or more drives (I agree 4 bays is where I kinda draw the line with raid6 use but if your using above 4tb drives raid6 is recommend) , just wish nas's came with 5 bays as defualt, usually 2, 4 or 8 and sometimes 6 but not 5 (then again if your wanting to use hotspare a 6+ bay is ideal with raid6 or 5 as it supports live replace so it only mirrors the failed drive unsure if ugreen supports this thought)
Impressive little box the whole ugreen layout really does look like Synology dsm os
dedicated is drive is intresting hopefully replaceable (I would preferred it to be redundant but it's ugreen choice I guess)
something you didn't make a big point about is the standard built in dual 10gbe ethernet ports (most nas are 2.5gbe now with stupid Synology still persisting with 1gbe ports in 2022 never mind in 2024 as well) I guess it's because your used to dealing with 25-100gbe on your other toys in that room
The gpu in the resource monitor will be the actual igpu on the cpu (things like plex can use it, doesn't need to be a dedicated gpu)
The OS drive has people in camps - we tend to like it. 10GbE is a big deal, if we didn't do that justice, our bad.
It’s good to finally see the 6 bay version NASync DXP6800 Pro. Hopefully the 8 bay DXP8800 Plus will make an appearance soon too. IMO it might have been better to see fewer models and UGreen seeding the ground with 2.5GbE and 10GbE switches if not a Router. Ambitious either way, I really hope they come through.
We don't have the 8-bay but we do have the 4-bay SSD version as well and just started that video and review work today.
@@StorageReview looking forward to seeing the preview / review.
First review of the 6 bay I am aware of… it’s a very compelling product, especially if you put unraid or truenas on it.
Written review coming soon too. Also, we set up a chat in our Discord about the build details, etc if you want to discuss more.
"Stubby Phillips" sounds like someone's nickname in high school 🤣🤣🤣
I’m also wondering if one can use some of those NVMe to SATA cards in the two NVMe slots to get even more HDDs. Maybe an SFF-8088 card in the PCIe slot for even more HDDs. Certainly a Thunderbolt enclosure could help add more drives.
Well you'd have to jank together an enclosure of something...it can probably be done but the external power and complexity will make this untenable for almost everyone.
@@StorageReview Certainly, if you want it to be as reliable as possible such a project would be ill advised in most environments. For s#!ts and giggles though the sky is the limit.
I've been looking for a NAS device, was looking into Synology but compared to this synology is really a joke with their not-expandable hardware lol. Definitely gonna buy this!!
Thanks for making this video! Looks like an awesome NAS with great performance and connectivity! It does not support ECC RAM if I understood correctly, right? That would be the only missing feature for me.
I backed up my DXP2800 2 bay from kickstarter perfect for my need
you'll surely enjoy.
Would have liked to see a test of the ports and the card reader.
OO. Actually a NAS with built in PSU. That is nice, I hate these external bricks. Unfortunately their 2 and 4 bay model still uses external bricks. Shame. There reason I care about PSU and small bay models, is because it would be a perfect building block for a ceph or k8s cluster. And with bigger models, you sure get a bit cheaper per bay, but still is stuck with same memory, cpu and nic, so that is not great. If I could get 10 of these 2 bay models, that would be way more interesting for me actually.
Intersting feedback - a cluster of two-bays seems like a lot of systems, but if it works...on the PSU most of our team prefers the integrated, some like the external...both camps have value.
@@StorageReview I still think it is pretty good product from what I see. Nice attention to details, good cooling.
Thanks for the review!
Well done review, looking forward to more ;-)
written review coming then the same for the mini flash unit.
Can you guys please find out which network chips are used for the 2x 10G ports?
Why I am asking? Because the smaller models have a Marvell AQC 113 10G chip and this is NOT supported by FreeBSD, Illumos or ESXi. Drivers are only available for Linux and Windows.
Marvell AQtion Network Adapter - we have a Discord forum going on these if you want the full system output.
The font in the OS should be changed to a more modern font. I know a strange thing to point out but it would make the OS look much better.
Agreed! 👍
at least that's a relatively minor fix - lol
I'm looking forward to a full review - but I am also concerned about the use of a port multiplier instead of multi-port SATA on these drives. The early performance tests by others show that it may be a bit hamstrung by the performance on the 4 bay unit. From a lspci posted on forums, it appears that the same SATA multipler is in place for the 6 bay units, which will handicap total disk writes to the SATA disk to 300mb/s total, rather then 300mb/s per each disk. I think the benchmarks will have to tell the story here. The 10GB/s may be totally wasted unless you are only writing to the SATA disks, or you replace their OS with truenas and set up caching with ZFS on the SSDs.
I'm really interested in the hardware, but have zero interest in the supplied software.
Now I did see another reviewer mention that you're able to install something like Truenas quite easily and that Ugreen on the Kickstarter is coming around to the idea of allowing 3rd party systems, so I'm interested what your guys take on that is.
Since the jump people have been trying to figure out ways to JUST use the hardware. We'd love to see the hardware packaged on its own, homelabbers would go NUTS for that.
@@StorageReview I liked the concept of the 45Homelab system for this, but to get a turnkey system that starts at 2000+. A system like this for this price, but open for 3rd party os'es would be such a big deal in the market.
What is the axtual depth of thw unit. Front to back? I cant find dimensions for the 6 drive unit or any for that matter.
Can you also insert SATA SSDs into those bays? It looked like you could.
Yes, you can. There are screw holes in the bay trays, so you must fasten with screws the drives, if you want to install 2,5" HDDs and SSDs.
Awesome video. Thanks!
Have you been able to boot into Linux to look at the wiring on the m.2 slots via lspci? My understanding is that, at least on the 8-bay model that NAS Compares tested (around the 12m8s mark), one of the slots was PCIe 4.0x4, and the other is PCIe 3.0x2.
I realize, as a home user, that being stuck with PCIe 3.0x2 in an NVME mirror (assuming the fastest speed is the slowest drive) would still be great. However, given the price of both the six bay and especially the 8 bay, and the complete lack of any sort of warning about this in the marketing materials, it's a bit off-putting. I'm hoping it's some sort of software limitation, but it seems more likely a choice was made to ration the available PCIe lanes on the CPU.
Still. The 8-bay is a $1500 MSRP device, and the cheapest discount on the Kickstarter was still $1000, which is a great deal for that much storage with those specs, but not at all cheap. And nothing on the public specs mentions a discrepency in the assigned lanes between the m.2 slots. It's off-putting, and is making me seriously reconsider my current pledge for the 8-bay. Not because it's not realistically enough for my needs, but for $1000 (or $1500), I really feel like I shouldn't be getting less performance than I'd expect from a fully spec'd slot. That's the sort of compromise I'd expect from a cheaper system, and really has me re-evaluating just building my own, or saving my money for an HL15.
Those WD drives are what I run in my Synology, they get the job done.
Actually a rack mount model would have been nice too,…
That’s an entirely different market. Okay it slow.
Been fan of 2-Bay NAS , Syn DS720+ has limitations of max 16T , if I know that I not buy it , Austor 6602T n 6702T both exceeded Syn limitations as newer HDD come on market , so DXP6800 Pro , I will utilize IronWolf Pro 24T for the 1st time , I hope to make 3x 2-Drive RAID 0 on this 6-Bay , since ugreen unit close to 459 price a nice investment
24’s will work in the Synology. Just may not be supported.
I pre-ordered this NAS but I had no idea how expensive it would be to get enough storage for 4K video files or backups of my media.
We did a meme about this problem a few weeks ago LOL. We regularly post HDD deals on our Discord if you need help.
@@StorageReview I appreciate that I really don't use discord much. Trying to cover too many social media platforms already lol.. I started using an 8 TB hard disk drive with a 500 GB NVMe for cache. For file archiving it is more than enough. I'm just having trouble holding all my projects on NVMe drives because it gets so expensive. I have six terabyte NVMe render drives and every couple months they are completely filled. I am a minor data hoarder.
Can you tell me precisely, what 10Gb network controller is build in? And does the PCIe port or one of the NICs share its PCIe lanes with other devices?
i backed the 6 bay version for the purpose of Raid 6 and the more powerful cpu over the 4800 plus. ugreen makes good products and i don't see why this would be any different.
TBH their success in other areas like power stations is the only reason we even considered taking these systems on. The hardware design is very strong. They need to keep investing in the apps and partner ecosystem, but that will come with time.
from what I know. It require +86 telephone number to login for the first time. Maybe this is a demo version that why it was different.
It’s a beast but man their software is as stable as Qnap security. Need to wait a couple of months before their software is prime.
Software is going to lag with any new NAS like this. We didn't see any stability problems at all when benchmarking just the storage. And to be fair they've added support for Dicker and a few other updates since we've started. The hardware is promising enough.
@@StorageReviewDicker? 🤭
Seems like a lot of effort to be going to crowd funding to get launched. Maybe start with less skus and show that they are serious.
$5 million plus raised seems legit. Doubt they need the cash given the rest of the business. This is a classic awareness campaign technique that seems to be working.
This is not their first product. You should do some research no matter what way a product comes to market
Which makes it more baffling on why it needs crowdfunding period this is not some small niche company @@StorageReview
They have a market share in Asia and they already have NAS units there but the research shows that Kickstarter is good exposure for the western markets. Nothing to do with funding. They're doing fine actually.
Do they have the firmware lockdown to their own OS or have you been able to install something like truenas or proxmox yet?
Any concerns (outside the norm) with utilizing a NAS from a company based in China? Have you noted any newly-open listening ports or conducted network analysis to check if there are any unknown outbound connections from the NAS or any of your other networked-connected devices after connecting the NAS to your home/lab network?
It's not an unreasonable question. We have not done an extensive security look but we didn't notice anything out of the ordinary.
What dimensions are have the two fans on the back, 120mm or 140mm? Plugged on a standard 4 pin pwm-controlled header or is there a special header for the fans? And which physical length have the internal M.2 UGOS-SSD?
Can you give the dimensions of the 6-bay NAS?
roughly 11.5" x 10" x 8" - imprecise, don't go build a fancy wood cabinet for it off these measurements.
Any rack ears?
Great video!
Appreciate your support.
I understand that they're sending reviewers samples and that's nice but why the heck would they send four terabyte and one TB NVMe. No one would ever use those for a NAS. It's almost like they being super cheap. 😊 Especially rolling this out through Kickstarter. I wonder if they're having financial trouble and hopefully if they did the app would still run😊
We can put 24s in. We just tested as sent.
@@StorageReview of course I am speaking specifically about Ugreen. Like every single tech review I've got one of these very strange marketing for a Kickstarter launch. It is really awesome tech though I love it and I'm super excited. Just having trouble deciding on a capacity. Have to find a balance between budget and large storage space that won't need to be upgraded
Could you talk more about the PCIe slot on this one? I ordered this model and would be cool to get a graphics card working.
We've asked for a compatibility list for the slot.
Y’all planning to break it open so we can see insides?
Wait....so you got to buy the NAS then buy the drives separately? Tf
Well we didn't buy anything, UGREEN sent them. We'd typically use 22/24TB drives in a review but went with what they included.
I see you’ve never bought a NAS before. Unless otherwise specified, the NAS is just a NAS. Bring your own drives.
Hoping to see if optane cards boot from the pcie slot. As i have backed this vs the all m.2 version
you wnat to boot off the PCIe slot with an Optane drive? My Lord...why?
@@StorageReview not boot but use as.a cache drive as I have one with barely any writes on it from a server salvage
since ugreen is chinese company ; do we have to worry about any of our data like TicTok?? Surprise no one has asked this concern ; have no idea how much their cloud or their OS has been verified to be safe??
I tried to back the 8 bay and it looks like Kickstarter have screwed my cc payment so I may lose out
Nah. Kickstarter won't even bill the card until May 11th I think it was. They added more pledge support slots too, so not as limited as they made it sound.
@@AltruisticWarrior It's not the limit, it's the way Kickstarter mishandled my pledge. My card provider tells me. the payment fail.
Any update on the Object First review?
Almost there, no later than late next week.
Good afternoon, there are Ukrainian or Russian languages.
Hey, what size are the two fans and can they be replaced without breaching the warranty?
Warranty support usually does not cover changes to core components like that. We didn't take them out to measure.
Sure my Synology's can't run Plex, JellyFin, Homarr, VM of Opnsense and a bunch of other things but I got a SFF i7 PC with Unraid for the power. QNAPs always had the power heck one of them that I used had Thunderbolt it was nice but the software is why they were always returned maybe them failing after a year for many others was another reason.
UGREEN looks like they're serious here, which is good for the industry. We don't even cover brands outside of Synology and QNAP because the systems are so bad. No doubt UGREEN will pick up plenty of customers, the Kinstarter illustrates the appetite.
I have a Synology NAS too and as most would say the hardware is anemic but the software is outstanding. I also have two QNAP NAS units and the hardware is better with the software a bit less so. Personally I rather like both Synology and QNAP. As long as they are configured in a conservative way they should be reasonably secure too.
Still just a ground funding device so WAY to much risk.
They Dont ship to India Which is a big problem no nas provider other than syno9logy ships to India so we dont have great options like these nas avilable Please put in a rquest for shipping this to India
Have a friend in the US or Germany? Have them ship there then ship to you!
amazing looking forward to the full review! But please update the software for that, from other reviewers there have been a lot of changes and performance uplifts! If possible performance with another OS e.g. truenas, unraid et.c would be amazing, here a quick vid explaining how to easily get a different OS on the boot nvme: czcams.com/video/Cc6tcfn6ukw/video.html
Hope that helps, cheers!
we go to the latest OS before starting the performance review.
Will there be another follow up on these devices?
Be careful the back doors they've installed in that system
G.U.I not gooey. oof, Come on man.