3 Strange Mysteries from the Lake Michigan Triangle

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  • @BigOldBoats
    @BigOldBoats  Před 9 měsíci +52

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      @user-pt7sg5ol8z Před 9 měsíci +1

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    • @thekingsilverado3266
      @thekingsilverado3266 Před 8 měsíci

      If one thinks deep back in the 70s Jonny Carson wise cracked about his exp when the water on Lake Michigan all of sudden turned violent in like really hot calm 90 degree weather it went from totally calm in a split second and he said the water color actually changed. I had that very same exp with being on a 57 cabin cruiser with a colleague and friends ex wife. The man told me point blank the sole reasons he divorced her was she was a few bubbles off plumb and that was when she piloted this 57 footer into the middle of that lake I knew she wasn't sane... I saw boats that coulda hit and swallowed that little cabin cruiser and legit claimed they never knew they hit anything. Not to mention when the storm brewed up the water went from the normal putrid stinky pea green to a glowing purplish blue which other mariners have reported. That dip stick broad had no brains no mind to be out in the middle of that lake with that toy boat with me on it and that was the end of the relationship with us when I forcibly took over the helm that afternoon. I even called a mayday n the radio to let people know we were in trouble as the storm intensified it totally sheered off the engine hatch cover which she had open to cool the motors. Later part of the upper bridge roof was sheered off & left hanging over to the port side. If I was not so busy trying to save my own life I probably woulda crapped my own pants especially when the water literally changed colors and started to like glow was the interesting part. At that time I was not that interested in the weird glowing water not at all. Whether it was the sun or the sun angle the waters in the middle of Lake Michigan began to like glow a purplish blue color not the sick smelly green color I remember. I don't know how the hell anyone can even swim in water that stinks like that water does stink. Then think that some people take literal toy boats among them gargantuan ships that traverse that lake. I mean my buddies ex has more money than brains and some people die of that scenario too like she probably will.

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    • @Maven0666
      @Maven0666 Před 5 měsíci

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  • @Maplenr
    @Maplenr Před 9 měsíci +286

    Most of the people dying in Lake Michigan overestimate their ability and underestimate her treachery. No real mystery to that; My wife and I were in the lake today and it went from no waves to 6 footers in a heartbeat. Also, it's Mackinac is pronounced Mack-in-aw. Much love for the videos!

    • @792slayer
      @792slayer Před 9 měsíci +6

      Yep, Mackinaw is near my stomping grounds.

    • @sphere6258
      @sphere6258 Před 9 měsíci +17

      Edit: Hey, another Wisconsinite here, he also mispronounced Manitowoc, for those curious it's pronounced kinda' like man-it-uh-wok. I agree that there's no mystery, tides, currents, weather, and hypothermia is all it takes.

    • @adspur
      @adspur Před 9 měsíci +1

      Higher population in the triangle area also adds to the largest death tolls.Not taking anything from the condition of the lake itself.Just a observation.

    • @m.e.5482
      @m.e.5482 Před 8 měsíci

      @@adspur Chicago n Indiana side, by far have a much greater population but 4sho

    • @AutisticAthena
      @AutisticAthena Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@adspurexactly, waters are just as dangerous further up, there's just a lot less people. The only area that's not really dangerous is the bay area around the peninsula that's pretty protected.

  • @vetamentsaint
    @vetamentsaint Před 9 měsíci +310

    Boat man has returned

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  • @larryreese6146
    @larryreese6146 Před 8 měsíci +21

    I have a friend who sailed the great lakes most of his life. According to him they're more treacherous than the ocean. Shifting cargo when a ship is caught in a sudden squal can break a ship in half. The sudden violent weather, the topography of the lake floor, a forgotten detail, carelessness, just plain bad luck and a ship is lost. Those lakes are littered with unlucky mishaps.

  • @erika6504
    @erika6504 Před 8 měsíci +49

    As someone who learned to sail on the Great Lakes, it was drilled into me that ocean sailors coming to our lakes often have difficulty managing to sail well, and that Great Lakes sailors often have no problems on the oceans (besides tides). I sailed on the ocean once, and the waves were larger, but more regular and easier to manage.
    Many of the early wrecks are likely from ocean sailors thinking the Lakes are simply freshwater oceans. They’re not. The waves ricochet off shores and make for chaotic, short-interval waves. And as others have mentioned, storms can appear suddenly out of clear blue skies and wreck havoc.
    I love the Great Lakes, and I love sailing on them. But they are weird. And easily underestimated.

  • @Spike-sk7ql
    @Spike-sk7ql Před 9 měsíci +100

    Living on Lake Erie, about an hour west of Cleveland, the storms on these lakes are nothing to mess with. It can be a beautiful day, and in 5 minutes that can change drastically. Just this last weekend, we started off with a beautiful Saturday, and then severe storms rolled in instantaneously. This isnt even saying anything about what happens in November. Thats a whole different animal when a cold front moves in. You dont want to be out on the lake when severe storms are in the area. Could you imagine how it was when we couldnt predict weather beyond "its raining outside" or "its sunny and hot"?

    • @darthdevious
      @darthdevious Před 9 měsíci +5

      I agree. Live just outside of Toledo. These lakes can quickly turn deadly.

    • @VelocityFilms12
      @VelocityFilms12 Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@darthdeviousMichigan native, went to school in sault ste. marie. I check that, these Lakes aren’t anything to underestimate, that’s for sure.

    • @rustyshacklefordrefined5756
      @rustyshacklefordrefined5756 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Sandusky?

    • @Spike-sk7ql
      @Spike-sk7ql Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@rustyshacklefordrefined5756 close. But I was actually at CP when the storms came through. Went from clear blue sky, to tornado watch in the course of 10 mins.

    • @OGDweeb
      @OGDweeb Před 9 měsíci +3

      Detroit River can get pretty nasty even!

  • @Kimberlaina
    @Kimberlaina Před 9 měsíci +33

    I was born and raised in Holland/Zeeland and spent a lot of time on the beaches there and in Ludington. Love seeing these videos about familiar places! I have to say I agree with what you say in the final chapter -- it is possible to make a mysterious triangle almost anywhere in the Great Lakes and find plenty of stories to fill it. I've been hiking down quiet stretches of beach and come upon the ribs of old shipwrecks poking out of the sand. They are everywhere.

  • @apancher
    @apancher Před 9 měsíci +65

    Absolutely love these videos! I grew up about 40 minutes from the Benton Harbor/St Joseph Michigan area. Local news in the summer regularly talked about drownings due to the rip currents. A lot of the beaches there have sand bars close to shore, and when they break out, things get scary. I've been caught in a couple small rips, and can say that it's absolutely terrifying, even as a competent swimmer.

    • @tommywolfe2706
      @tommywolfe2706 Před 9 měsíci +2

      I go to Silver Beach all the time with my son and we take our noodles. We dont notice the rips because of the noodles and we are usually swimming sideways trying to go from the swimming area to some random spot on the pier. I eventually want to make it out to the lighthouse lol

    • @apancher
      @apancher Před 7 měsíci +1

      @tommywolfe2706 even with the noodle, if you got caught in one, you'd notice. I've never felt any rips at Silver Beach, but definitely at Warren Dunes

    • @tommywolfe2706
      @tommywolfe2706 Před 7 měsíci +3

      ​@@apancher I thought that I had already been in some.....and now I am feeling reckless and stupid and will definitely weigh my decisions, especially with my son around a lot more from here on out.

  • @kevinquist
    @kevinquist Před 9 měsíci +63

    I have lived my whole life with in about half hour of Lake Michigan. (in Michigan). I have been swimming when it was 2-3 foot breakers that with in minutes turned into 10' waves. felt rip currents drag me 40 yards down the beach. I don not necessarily believe in 'paranormal'. 'triangles' are just excuses to NOT find an answer. or not even look for one.
    Lake Michigan (and the rest of the Great Lakes) first problem, is the name. Lake. people think lake and picture that nice little body of water behind their house that they can take their boat out on and fish. so every one underestimates the Great Lakes and doesnt pay the due respect a SEA should get. Second. as they are deep (ish), For their surface area, they are very shallow. which means dynamic. even wind can stir MOST of the lakes into a froth. LOVE the Great Lakes. will never leave. LOVE lake Michigan. but the second you underestimate it? it will kill you.

  • @roberthennel
    @roberthennel Před 9 měsíci +100

    Thanks for another great video.
    The captain Donner case might seem more mysterious than it actually might be. The cabin might have been locked from the outside (some accounts say, the crew mate who went to wake the captain even thought he might have locked the cabin and gone to the galley, where he searched first). My subjective guess would be the poor man, after navigating his ship for much too long to ensure its safe passage, was so exhausted he decided to take a breath of fresh air, before going to sleep (I guess we all have experienced over-exhaustion, where you barely stand straight, yet cannot fall asleep), being exhausted might have slipped and fallen overboard unnoticed.

    • @belindaf8821
      @belindaf8821 Před 9 měsíci +15

      I agree, I think exhaustion has everything to do with his disappearance. The simplest answer is usually the correct one in cases like this. It could also potentially be that he wasn't in as good a state of mind as his crew believed him to be, and the exhaustion triggered an acute mental health crisis, ending in him taking his own life. If that was the case, the fact it was a special occasion may have factored into it too.

    • @SacredWaves
      @SacredWaves Před 9 měsíci +5

      I agree with you both. I had the same thought. Maybe in his exhaustion, he simply slipped, and after 3 hours... well, he wouldn't be found. Many possibilities, but the simplest is usually correct, as stated above. Be well, and stay safe all.

  • @alistairwreathens5719
    @alistairwreathens5719 Před 8 měsíci +23

    I grew up on Lake Erie. And let me just say. The Great Lakes hold beauty and horror. Speaking just to what’s known, the undertow within the lakes are quite terrifying.

  • @Jimmy-yf3yp
    @Jimmy-yf3yp Před 9 měsíci +24

    I live in Manitowoc. Last year I was out fishing early in the morning and had to call the police on some stumbling drunks near the two rivers pier. They were daring each other who would jump in the pitch black water first. The next week, two people drowned by the manitowoc pier after jumping in drunk. While the water can be dangerous, it’s the drunks that are the real problem.

    • @eldorado1830
      @eldorado1830 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Stupid is as stupid does.

    • @Jimmy-yf3yp
      @Jimmy-yf3yp Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@eldorado1830 I wouldn’t really call people stupid for not knowing how dangerous open water can be when they’re drunk. They look at it like a swimming pool. The problem is our educational system failing and people being so consumed with media and fantasy that they forget to teach their children about the dangers of nature.

    • @CharlieB-gs5uk
      @CharlieB-gs5uk Před měsícem

      Natural selection. It all works out

  • @TheLenaweeTrekker
    @TheLenaweeTrekker Před 9 měsíci +53

    Ok, the very first time I visited Lake Michigan at Silverbeach in St. Joe, my Dad warned me "Do Not To Swim Out To Far!" He made it totally clear that there is an under tow in that area of the lake that will pull you out to the middle of the lake.
    I thought this was something old people told there kids to get them to behave better. Well, there is an under tow, and you can feel it. My Dad was right. I swam back to shore and was beat when I can ashore.
    You must have respect for the Lakes, or they will do away with you real fast.

    • @stevegantz8620
      @stevegantz8620 Před 7 měsíci +4

      It's technically a rip current and it won't carry you to the middle of the lake, just far enough out where if you're not a good swimmer you'll be in trouble.

    • @Arterexius
      @Arterexius Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@stevegantz8620 Even if you're a good swimmer, you'll be in trouble. We Danes have rip currents all along the coastline of Jutland that faces the North Sea. You don't know where they are, when they'll arise or how powerful they are, until you are close or in the middle of one. Countless German tourists have died over the years from getting into one of these rip currents and getting dragged out to sea. They're usually dragged far enough out to warrant rescue by helicopter rather than by a small boat and even great swimmers have lost their lives to these rip currents, simply from being dragged so far out that there's no return without help. But if no one knows you're gone, help will never come.

    • @stevegantz8620
      @stevegantz8620 Před 2 měsíci +1

      I agree, take them seriously. @@Arterexius

  • @scooterc6412
    @scooterc6412 Před 9 měsíci +21

    Hey kid! I’m a Ludington, MI native and absolutely love all your videos, especially those concerning the Great Lakes! I watch your channel and videos over and over. Very interesting, calming and relaxing for me. I must say you have a gift for narration and video production! Being from Michigan I would like to help you a bit on pronunciation. Mackinac is pronounced Mack-in-awe. I’m not being critical, only trying to help. Again, your channel is my favorite nautical themed channel out there! I’m and old sailor myself. My father was as well. He worked for the C&O railroad car ferries from 1960-70. I have crossed Lake Michigan many times, on many big old boats. SS Badger is the last of the fleet of 7 from the 60s, still crossing Lake Michigan from Ludington to Manitawoc during the summer months. Keep up the great work! The more Great Lakes videos, the better! Your a smart kid and I just wanted you to know that I really appreciate you and all your hard work!

  • @luketdrifter2100
    @luketdrifter2100 Před 9 měsíci +59

    It doesn’t matter if it’s spelled Mackinac or Mackinaw it’s all pronounced with the aw ending. A relic of the French and then British influences

    • @mobilegamemadness2763
      @mobilegamemadness2763 Před 9 měsíci +15

      Thank you, hearing the ac ending hurts every time

    • @luketdrifter2100
      @luketdrifter2100 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@mobilegamemadness2763 throw back to my years with Mackinac State Historic Parks

    • @michaelwhite2823
      @michaelwhite2823 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Tell that to the gal who crossed the bridge in the Yugo.

    • @josephperoutka8158
      @josephperoutka8158 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Hey, at least that's better than the Manitowoc pronunciation.

    • @silverstuff182
      @silverstuff182 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Even plenty of Michiganders say Mack in Ack.

  • @knowjusticeknowpeace15
    @knowjusticeknowpeace15 Před 9 měsíci +28

    Uggghhhh!!! I LOVE your channel so much. The time and effort you put into each of these videos is very apparent. Thank you so very much for doing what you do. 🥰⛵🥰

  • @alexw.7097
    @alexw.7097 Před 9 měsíci +15

    As someone who A.) Has a job that involves being around while everyone else goes on vacation, and B.) Works outside a lot and is NOT built for the heat and sun, I absolutely feel you on summer not being the best season.

    • @kjaubrey4816
      @kjaubrey4816 Před 9 měsíci

      Got that summertime sadness?
      Sorry. Just messing with you.

    • @randomlyentertaining8287
      @randomlyentertaining8287 Před měsícem +1

      I'm with you brother. Fuck the heat. Though probably more accurately, fuck humidity.

  • @NealBones
    @NealBones Před 9 měsíci +15

    I feel so privileged to be here 😁 I never knew Lake Michigan had a triangle. Thanks for the new video, Brad

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 Před 9 měsíci +10

    Amazing watch. The great lakes have so much beauty but demand so much respect, your narration is spot-on. Thank for your time and HARD work.
    "So much history -- So little time"

  • @chesspiece81
    @chesspiece81 Před 9 měsíci +6

    I'm very excited to see an upload by Big Old Boats. Since I've never visited Michigan and have no idea how big the lakes are, I am blown away by how many ship wrecks and lost lives there have been.

    • @TreeGod.
      @TreeGod. Před 9 měsíci +3

      I’m happy to have been born in Milwaukee next to the lake. Then up north near Lake Superior which is way more scary of a lake. It’s as serious as the sea, an so cold bodies don’t deteriorate an stay preserved forever basically

    • @isabellevkd
      @isabellevkd Před 7 měsíci

      It’s like looking at the ocean. They seem endless. Other lakes feel like puddles once you see the majesty of the Greats.

  • @themonarcher314
    @themonarcher314 Před 9 měsíci +5

    I was born in Zeeland and spent my time on the beaches of Holland, St. Joe, Saugatuck, Grand Haven, and Ludington in all seasons. Dad and I sailed his butterfly and were chased off the lake by more than one monster of a sudden storm. We were that family that ran in during the red flag days of the 90s for some serious wave jumping with my parents leading the charge.
    I grew up on and learned to love Lake Michigan in all her seasons and moods. But that said, I learned that like any great beauty, if you stick around long enough, she'll show you her temper. And she's as viciously deadly as she is stunning.

  • @ezekielmoorejr3145
    @ezekielmoorejr3145 Před 8 měsíci +3

    When I was a kid growing up in Kalamazoo we would go to lake Michigan and I didn't at the time know about the triangle, but we would swim right at the southern tip of it and I always had a strange feeling about that area.

  • @MarianneKat
    @MarianneKat Před 9 měsíci +4

    Lifelong michigander, always love the Great Lakes stories

  • @robertdavidson3090
    @robertdavidson3090 Před 8 měsíci +3

    The Macinac and Mackinaw are due to the French and English having control over the same area. The AC is sounded in French as AW. When the British heard the pronunciation they spelled it with the AW. I have lived around the lakes, specifically Michigan all my life. Born in northwest Indiana just a few miles from shore, then the Chicago area and now 40 years in Michigan. I love the lakes, the freighters and the lighthouses. Keep up the wonderful work as your channel is a breath of fresh air.

  • @flapjackfae
    @flapjackfae Před 9 měsíci +11

    Captain Donner is a weird one, but otherwise (after watching your videos for so long), my answer is, "It's the Great Lakes." Thanks for another excellent narrative.

  • @jayharr6250
    @jayharr6250 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Don't know if I am swallowing the whole lake Michigan triangle mystery thing. The great lakes are just so huge they are capable of generating their own weather systems. Either way very well presented as usual. Keep up the interesting and highly educational videos. ❤the channel!

  • @jordov9398
    @jordov9398 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I’m a TC native, and my advice would be to take extreme caution if swimming in water that has a break wall that is perpendicular to the shore.

  • @shadowpulpfan1810
    @shadowpulpfan1810 Před 9 měsíci +7

    Thanks you for treating this seriously. All the Great lakes are big and always potentially dangerous. They are called inland seas and out of sight of land, especially before direct communication with shore, anything can happen. There are localized storms that blow up out of no where called a white squall, where the water is covered with white cap waves. When dealing with such unpredictable places with the possibility of very localized sever weather, vessels going missing isn't a mystery... it's a tragedy.
    What happened to Captain Donner is definitely a mystery though.
    Don't feel too bad about mispronouncing Mackinac. Best my research says is that it is a old Native American word that has come down to us through 2 different native langues, written down by French explorers, and this word isn't given an anglicized pronunciation. It's also spelled Mackinaw depending on what the word refers to. Livernois is pronounced like it's spelled. The 'Sault' in Sault Ste. Marie is pronounced 'sue', like the girl's name. The Michigan is filled with linguistic traps.

    • @vampcaff
      @vampcaff Před 9 měsíci +1

      Some one knows how to use Wikipedia...

    • @shadowpulpfan1810
      @shadowpulpfan1810 Před 9 měsíci

      @@vampcaff Actually this was all off the top of my head. I've just done a lot of research and I talked to plenty of local maritime history buffs here in Michigan.
      I always wondered if I could accidentally sound like an encyclopedia. I'll take that Wikipedia comment as a compliment. 😄
      Also, the description of a white squall is almost a direct quote from a Stan Rodgers song 'White Squall', because he got the description right.

  • @roxanneweichinger9318
    @roxanneweichinger9318 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I was born and raised in Michigan and visited the Great Lakes. This was really interesting, thanks for sharing.

  • @Urspo
    @Urspo Před 9 měsíci +7

    You did a good job here! One critique- it’s the straits of Mackinac is pronounced Mackinaw like saw 😊

  • @marklambert4793
    @marklambert4793 Před 5 měsíci +1

    And those summer time water temperatures disappear in heartbeat, when a thunderstorm blows up off the lake.
    When the storm comes in, it churns the water out of the shallows into the deeper parts of the lake.
    And it’s replaced by water that’s just above freezing 🥶,
    even in August.
    Born and raised on Lake Michigan.
    And I have heard enough experiences to fill many volumes.

  • @kcross3494
    @kcross3494 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I grew up right on the beach in Holland, MI. Definitely witnessed a lot of mysterious lights at night over the lake. Area is gorgeous though.

  • @Richhhi
    @Richhhi Před 9 měsíci +2

    I love how you match up these old films perfectly with the stories.

  • @catbyte0679
    @catbyte0679 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I grew up on Lake Michigan in northern lower Michigan and it can be very deceptive if you don't know how to read it. Rip currents are the worst. If you find yourself caught in one, don't fight it. Swim parallel to the shore and you'll get out of it. You might have to take a long walk on the beach back to your stuff, but you'll be alive.

  • @convoyleader4173
    @convoyleader4173 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Hearing your own town is somewhat giving goose bumps. Grand haven mi 🎉

  • @jackolanttern01
    @jackolanttern01 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Nothing i hate more than continuously hearing these better help therapy ads. I get okay

  • @christinagowan8116
    @christinagowan8116 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Im a Michigan native and growing up and going to Lake Michigan you grow up respecting the Lakes. My cousin died while swimming on Lake Michigan a few years ago.

  • @flimmaytinstone8980
    @flimmaytinstone8980 Před měsícem +1

    I live in mich. Been boating in the triangle for 55 yrs. I’ve seen huge storms come out of nowhere. Crazy rogue waves but most die in swimming accidents. Currents on the beaches can get very strong.

  • @jenniferlevine5406
    @jenniferlevine5406 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Eerie, excellent video! All new stories to me. I really like your approach and your sense of humour! You have great way of telling a story. Thanks so much!

  • @ohnoohyeah3205
    @ohnoohyeah3205 Před 8 měsíci +2

    This Michigander loves it. I miss home, near Lake St. Clair.

  • @otto17023
    @otto17023 Před 9 měsíci +5

    You should do something about the Kinross disappearance... I know you are oriented towards surface shipping, but technically speaking aircraft are called "ships", and for that matter surface ships were involved in the search efforts. I would really enjoy seeing your take on the incident. I often wonder, what happened to Robert L. Wilson and Felix Moncla..? But in any event, keep up the good work! 🙂

  • @darthdevious
    @darthdevious Před 9 měsíci +2

    Crazy, just 2 weeks ago, we too a group of scouts to Muskegon Michigan, just south of Ludington. We did let the swim in the Lake, which put them in the triangle.

  • @VanessaScrillions
    @VanessaScrillions Před 9 měsíci

    So happy to see a new video from you!! I've been rewatching a bunch of your videos to bide the time :)

  • @ohioplayer-bl9em
    @ohioplayer-bl9em Před 8 měsíci +3

    The water is to cold, much to cold. In Hawaii the water was around 86-90 degrees F. It feels great. 62 in summer is insane and nobody like that. Nobody likes that much cold.

  • @ryanfeit1420
    @ryanfeit1420 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I don't know if it's just me but sometimes I think I live in the most haunted state in the entire country. Michigan and the Great Lakes has its share of scary ghost stories and creepy legends.

  • @clintontaylor8904
    @clintontaylor8904 Před 9 měsíci +4

    As a solo sailor, I'd take 20 foot ocean waves over 5 foot waves on the great lake's
    With that said lake superior is the most beautiful place in the world

  • @TransAminal
    @TransAminal Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you....these uploads are amazing.
    Great narration...Can't imagine how much research you do....thanks again

  • @VelocityFilms12
    @VelocityFilms12 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Please keep making videos on great lakes ship history. It’s absolutely fascinating and an overlooked part of history. keep it up. Michigan native here.

  • @Klimmerish
    @Klimmerish Před měsícem +1

    In nearly every town from ludington down to south haven, there are 1-2 big piers, these greatly increase the danger for swimmers and small craft when weather changes. Large increases in rip currents and waves happen very quickly

  • @flkoolguy
    @flkoolguy Před 9 měsíci +1

    I enjoy your presentations. I also like the somber way you present the information. Your voice is suited to these type of stories.

  • @richardjohnson2965
    @richardjohnson2965 Před 8 měsíci +1

    There ‘s nothing mysterious about high waves, strong winds, undercurrents, and cold water. I lived in Duluth when I was a kid, dad was a Great Lakes sailor, and the lakes have always been treacherous. Treat them with respect….they are deep, cold, and changeable.

  • @missfish4160
    @missfish4160 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thanks for another great video! I've learned a lot about the Great Lakes from your channel.

    • @BigOldBoats
      @BigOldBoats  Před 9 měsíci +2

      Thank you! It's been really interesting learning about the region!

  • @bestboy138
    @bestboy138 Před 9 měsíci +3

    I’m pretty sure all those missing boats are under the water.

  • @jakemitchell3535
    @jakemitchell3535 Před 9 měsíci

    Yesssss! Just what I needed today! Love a new upload!

  • @SoloSailing77
    @SoloSailing77 Před 4 měsíci

    One thing about Lake Michigan for smaller boats to understand, is that the middle of the lake is always a very confused sea. Sometimes it gets wider depending on the weather. Storms also form over the lake, that seem to stay on the lake. I had a fellow sailor disappear between Grand Haven and Muskegon. He was racing a solo race. His 36 foot brand new sailboat, washed ashore in the area. Weather wasn't that bad on shore. His experience was very high. He was never found. Many boats and the coast guard searched for 4 days, with no evidence of where he went. That was in 1983, and was never found. Never considered this possibility.

  • @davescott7764
    @davescott7764 Před 9 měsíci

    Yet another awesome video 👍
    And my therapy is listening to your voice!
    Very calming, and if you’re paying close attention, I catch your jokes in some of your videos…
    Thanks for everything you do Brad!

  • @scofab
    @scofab Před 9 měsíci

    Well done as always, much appreciated and thank you.

  • @LouSlade
    @LouSlade Před 6 měsíci

    An old professor of mine from college once told me he likes to surf in Lake Superior and Lake Michigan. I maintain he's a madman, but he's still kicking, so obviously he's doing something right.

  • @farfle
    @farfle Před 9 měsíci +2

    Thanks for another Great Lakes video. I grew up in the Muskegon/Whitehall area, and now live in Zeeland, so very close to Lake Michigan. I'm not sure where you got your map, but it seems they decided to wipe out Muskegon County and combine it with Ottawa County! Do not trust whoever you got that map from again lol

    • @BigOldBoats
      @BigOldBoats  Před 9 měsíci +4

      It's a Canadian map from 1873 haha so I'm not shocked that it's inaccurate/ out of date

    • @farfle
      @farfle Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@BigOldBoats lmao, As they said in "South Park: Bigger Longer, Uncut!" Blame Canada!!

  • @PeteDriver530
    @PeteDriver530 Před 7 měsíci

    I really enjoy your channel, for the interesting stories you tell and the excellent way you present them. tonight, you brought back a memory. in elementary school, about 1980ish, I had a friend who was half Pottawatomie. we were in Wichita (I still am) but his father lived on the reservation north of Topeka. I remembered my friend telling our class the story of how his ancestors were brought to Kansas. hadn't thought about that in years, thank you for this little trip back through time :)

  • @spudbud124
    @spudbud124 Před 20 dny

    Hi, love your content. Just wanted to let you know that better help isn't actually a reputable counseling source, they say that they vet all of their psychologists but most of them don't even have any prayer study in that field. They're actually a big trouble right now for that kind of stuff.

  • @ekaterinalindeman5758
    @ekaterinalindeman5758 Před 29 dny

    I love watching these videos since literally this is home for me but I had to rewind and loop when you said Manitowoc. I know it’s not easy and you did great but this gave me the best giggle.

  • @bernieyorke6356
    @bernieyorke6356 Před měsícem

    My first husband was a sailor on the freighters on the Great Lakes and mentioned more than once about the Lake Michigan anomalies. Compasses can go off in this area, and other things were occurring that the sailors were aware of.

  • @isabellevkd
    @isabellevkd Před 7 měsíci

    I am from Sheboygan WI, also known as the Malibu of the Midwest because of the waves and ability to freshwater surf. We are on Lake Michigan right between Manitowoc (Man-ih-toe-walk) and Milwaukee. It’s drilled into our heads to NEVER swim alone, even if it’s shallow. The riptides are brutal and can pull you in over forty feet in less than 5 seconds. There are also underwater cliffs; you can be standing, take a step, and sink down if you aren’t careful.
    It’s absolutely beautiful, and our lakes have some of the biggest and oldest natural sand dunes in the US. If you visit Sheboygan, make sure to stop by the Lottie Cooper, a schooner built in 1876, and sunk in what is now the harbor marina in 1894. In honor of the one crew member that lost his life, the ship was preserved and memorialized. It is free to view, and can be found off of the marina parking lot. Terry Andre/Kohler Andre State Park is the home of our sand dunes, and while I don’t think you can still sled down them anymore (preservation) they’re beautiful to see. They’re nothing like the Door Co (WI) or Michigan Dunes, but are still a sight to enjoy.
    If you visit the UP (Michigan’s Upper Peninsula) head to Paradise to see the Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum. They’ve amassed a collection of artifacts from lost vessels (including the bell from the Edmund Fitzgerald) but also do important and wonderful work in education and conservation.

  • @OtakuLoki
    @OtakuLoki Před 9 měsíci +5

    I'm afraid you've been betrayed by phonics. "Mackinac," is pronounced "Makinaw."
    You've got some great videos that I've really loved, please keep up the great work!
    (Edited because I can't spell, even on those times I may know how to pronounce things.)

    • @waerwolv
      @waerwolv Před 9 měsíci +2

      I was half distracted while the video was playing and snapped to attention as soon as it was pronounced incorrectly 😂

    • @vampcaff
      @vampcaff Před 9 měsíci +1

      You might want to edit your edit 😅

    • @OtakuLoki
      @OtakuLoki Před 9 měsíci

      @@vampcaff Naw, I've made my good faith effort.
      😅

  • @jf4694
    @jf4694 Před 9 měsíci +6

    As a Muskegon, MI native and resident... this was a must watch!!!

  • @PateRiot
    @PateRiot Před 9 měsíci +2

    I'm surprised no ones heard of the Great Lakes Triangle from Duluth to Chicago to Kingston

  • @susanrich5205
    @susanrich5205 Před měsícem

    I love your channel!! And thank you for the Therapist help link!!

  • @mohothedestoyer
    @mohothedestoyer Před měsícem

    My uncle was stationed on the USCGC Mackinaw for 6 years after its christening, he told me they lost navigation and a bunch of other weird things would happen on the ship almost every time they went through “the triangle”

  • @kellybreen5526
    @kellybreen5526 Před 9 měsíci +9

    Mackinac is actually pronounced Mak - in -awe.
    Kind of like Tucson being pronounced Two- son.
    A minor point. I love your work.

  • @polarplatypus53
    @polarplatypus53 Před 9 měsíci +1

    My dad went out on one of those sailboats that you stand on into the middle of Lake Michigan, he be crazy fr fr

  • @HarryLime-ge6dc
    @HarryLime-ge6dc Před 2 měsíci

    Excellent presentation! And kudos for not glossing over, nor ignoring completely, the forced relocation and "education", of the indigenous tribes involved in the Le Griffon story.

  • @jetmechgirl9022
    @jetmechgirl9022 Před 8 měsíci

    I grew up 3 blocks away from Lake Huron . It definitely has sneaker storms, I also lived very close to Lake Superior, the winter snows that come off of that lake are amazing.

  • @housemana
    @housemana Před 9 měsíci +4

    nice!

  • @midwestcoast3676
    @midwestcoast3676 Před 24 dny +1

    man-eh-toe-wok lol. wisconsin cities are so hard to pronounce. as a Wisconsinite it’s funny to hear people try and say it. AWESOME VIDEO DUDE.

  • @cherrimullins9632
    @cherrimullins9632 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Feel blessed to be born in Michigan.❤❤❤❤

  • @p.k.5455
    @p.k.5455 Před 9 měsíci

    Another really cool video...always worth the watch for sure!!! And remember, be nice to people!!!

  • @rottenroads1982
    @rottenroads1982 Před 3 měsíci

    The Great Lakes are a place of their own when it comes to Maritime Lore. The Great Lakes have their own version of The Flying Dutchman in the form of The SS Bannockburn, and they have their own Bermuda Triangle in the form of the Lake Michigan Triangle.

  • @kitkat914
    @kitkat914 Před 9 měsíci

    Yes!! I ask for you to do this a couple of months ago!! You’re the best!!! 😊

  • @sakuracherrycat1071
    @sakuracherrycat1071 Před 8 měsíci

    19:07 I nearly threw my headphones off at work when I heard this. I love your videos with a passion as I listen to them at work, but this pulled me out of my groove.

  • @sirridesalot6652
    @sirridesalot6652 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I often wonder if some of these disappearances without a trace, like Captain Donner, aren't murders.

  • @propman3523
    @propman3523 Před 7 měsíci +1

    We put such importance on summer because we have to survive the winters! LOL

  • @Stephen-gp8yi
    @Stephen-gp8yi Před 9 měsíci +1

    You certainly do your homework this is superb content thanks✌️

  • @Inziagold
    @Inziagold Před 4 dny

    I treated Lake Michigan like an inland Ocean. I went no further than thigh deep. One year I made the mistake of getting in the water early June. I had to be carried out because the cold was like a million needles in my legs. While others were not phased by the cold temperature of the water .

  • @julieeldridge8760
    @julieeldridge8760 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I love South Haven - such a great vacation town!

  • @alexlarson2203
    @alexlarson2203 Před 9 hodinami

    My dad has been a wheelsman on the wilfred sykes for 35 years. An ore ship. After all the stories iv heard from him and his crew, there are numerous things that could have taken lives. Not to mention iv lived on the lake my whole life just lacking open water experince. Its extremely dangerous at most anytime. The sketchy part is that you can have glass water and 10 footers appear in minutes. No time to escape. Im pretty sure the sykes still has videos on youtube as the captain was a storn chaser, showing 20 and 30 foot waves washing over the deck of the massive ship.

  • @ianh1504
    @ianh1504 Před 7 měsíci

    I like how the most replayed feature really just helps us see when the sponsored segment ends

  • @Laura-zy5jp
    @Laura-zy5jp Před 9 měsíci

    Welcome Back Big Old Boats it’s been abit since you uploaded. I’m a subscriber from Canada. Sure missed your boat and Ship videos 😊😊👍👍💯💯❤️❤️⭐️⭐️😎😎🇨🇦🇨🇦

  • @sarame9537
    @sarame9537 Před 7 měsíci

    I just found you!!!! What a fantastic channel!! You really have a gift for story telling. Thank you!!

    • @BigOldBoats
      @BigOldBoats  Před 7 měsíci

      Thank you so much and welcome aboard!

  • @carmichael2359
    @carmichael2359 Před 8 měsíci

    I loved this documentary, but I especially loved your very unique ending! Thank you for an enjoyable lesson.

  • @rondothereviewer5954
    @rondothereviewer5954 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Love your videos, always a joy when I see a new upload message!

  • @davidnelson257
    @davidnelson257 Před 9 měsíci

    I love your content. I look forward to every video. Growing up in Michigan I imagined being on the Griffin disappeared with out a trace. Maybe 3rd or 4th grade. Thank you

  • @janellapalm1687
    @janellapalm1687 Před 9 měsíci

    Soooo spooky; another fantastic video that reads like a campfire story!

  • @ValerieprimcessAmanda
    @ValerieprimcessAmanda Před 3 hodinami

    Very interesting. I enjoy this video.

  • @kracyndalabombarbe2342

    Whenever my family visits any of the great lakes, we always make sure we stay near the shore line. The lakes are unpredictable. Even on what would seem normal calm sunny days, those waters can be very choppy and dangerous. There are times when my family visited point pelee (pee-lee) that the park rangers closed the beaches cause its too dangerous for anyone to be there that day. But the hiking was still open so you can enjoy the beauty of the wildlife and waters of lake Erie

  • @zgreatoutdoors1376
    @zgreatoutdoors1376 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Being from Wisconsin I live 45 minutes from Manitowoc, and there they have a museum for ship stuff and it has some mentions of the triangle, I don't know if I'm right or not though but there's a ferry that runs from Manitowoc to Ludington Michigan called the badger and I think most of its route goes along the north side of the triangle but I might be wrong, the fairy broke for the season already sadly, also the way people from Wisconsin say Manitowoc kind of sounds like Man Ih toe walk

  • @stephen_cs
    @stephen_cs Před 6 měsíci

    The Potawatomi trail of death has small markers near where I grew up in Kansas. It’s a somber reminder of what happened to those that the land belongs to

  • @tdecker2937
    @tdecker2937 Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you for another great video!

  • @boomerantics9586
    @boomerantics9586 Před 9 měsíci +2

    There is plenty of opportunity for mispronunciations in that neck of the woods! 😄