55 year old 1969 Renault 10 on the DYNO. How much power is left?
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- I took my 1969 Renault 10 to Performance Remap in Gloucester to see how much power it has.... Back in 1969 it would have been 49 bhp so what's the number 55 years later in 2024? Let's find out. #Cars #ClassicCars #Dyno
The end of the video is missing. It has a good ending too, I’ll reupload tomorrow!
Ffs Geoff. Where... would... one... find... ones... feckin... email. Request 10456.
That's incredible.
Think of how many cars were made, run, killed and crushed since that one was made.
It lives on.
Would be more impressed if you took a 55 year old EV to the 'Dyno' to see how much 'Horsepower' is left! Lol!
😂that would be funny but I think the batteries will be like when you leave in the remote soo long 😂
You would be lucky to find a 15 year old EV still running
That would be a milk float.
I've never had a mobile phone or a laptop where the battery lasts more than 3 years before it's seriously degraded, same with my power tool batteries which are all just the same cells that you get in an EV, yet the EVangelists are always claiming that some Tesla did 2 million miles on its original battery and only lost 3% of it's capacity blah blah yeah right 🤣🤣
The thing is, I spend my time watching car repair channels, funny how many 3-4 year old EV's I've seen where the garage is quoting £20-25k for a new battery (or $60k for those Hyundai Ioniq 5's that have been making the news)
battery manufactors say in theory these lithium-iron phosphate batteries can last 20 years.. so 55years.. probably not :)
Always enjoy Chris's contributions. Man's a legend.
He is!
Agreed, the road tax situation is farcical. I have a van and a car, I'm the only one who drives them, and it's close to £100 a month. Annual mileage well under 10k these days. Calculate the crazy costs of administering this tax at DVLA (SORN, car changes, reminders etc) and surely it's got to be better for everyone if the tax just goes on fuel prices. Stops the huge amount of road tax evasion at the same time, and catches the foreign registered cars/trucks.
Makes it fairer too, those that do low mileage would pay low tax and high mileage would pay more tax
Can't get backhanders making things simpler and fair.
It actually encourages you to drive more, knowing that your money in tax is going to waste otherwise. Fuel tax is by far the fairest way, but we pay enough on that already.
If the nutters in our govt is serious about ev's then they don't fuel up so fuel tax won't work and if rd tax is only for evs everybody will want diesel/petrol cars 😂😂😂😂😂
How its done in France.
When a car weighs 2.5 tonne and people think its not heavy. You know things have gotten bad.
A black stripe and fuzzy dice ought to get it up to around seventy horses.
Not too shabby, love cars with that configuration, had an Imp for a short while and Skoda Estelle, great fun dragging a trailer tent to Combe Martin, overtaking all the 'posh cars' dragging 5 berth caravans. Got character, love deep dish steels with fat tyres. Where's your front spots gone? Weight reduction for more oomph? (Range Rover 11.3mpg, Government love the double tax it'll collect).👍😁🇬🇧
You crazy man Geoff, your tuner got a Range Rover, now we are getting close to getting that "Geoff Steals Cars" video that shows why they won't be insured anymore, which is scary in it's own right.
My first car was Renault 8, 1964 model I got in 1973, and had four none servo disc brakes from the factory in 1964, and Michelin x radial tyres, miles in front of Morris Minors and the like.
Got mine in 1973 as well - £55.
Got mine in 1974, on a C plate, 60 quid. First car after passing driving test.
My first car was Renault 8, rolled it 4 days after I passed my test.
".....and i dont really like Range Rovers" my my what a 180😂😂 , you need to spill the beans on that one chap....
Not bad for an old girl. The little Renault needs to remain on the fleet.
Your correct at the end regarding fuel in modern cars. To save a bit of money I decided to run my modern car on the E10 standard fuel, but realised after a few weeks I had terrible running, kangaroo-ing, occasional rough running and even stalling. Switched back to E5 super unleaded and it's running smoother and has less of the issues above.
My dad used to own a Renault r10, when they were more common on the road. Weighs about 790 kg. Got lighter by the years 😂
The way things are going, i think getting hold of something like that old Renault, might not be a bad idea!
I'm thinking along exactly the same lines. By the way, the new electric Renault 5, which everyone says is "cheap!" will cost about £23k .
The standard engine for that year was 1100cc. The 1300 came several years later.
Geoff, If I win the lottery tomorrow night I would like to buy your Renault 10... it's a beauty of a car.
With a full service and new filters, points and plugs, & a play with the advance settings etc, you might just gain that loss back again! Or change to an electronic ignition system. If you really want to do a full restoration on the engine then new valve springs and a re seating of the valves will make a difference as will a cleaning out of the ports!
The Renault looking good.
Official Renault nerd here… yes you are correct: 49 HP
First car I ever drove on a road. Quirky, economical, fair bit of space inside. It just did the job.
Lap the valves, Quick Hone and New rings she'll be singing like Charlotte Church.
Yes correct
Possibly hardened valve seats, it would have needed 4 Star. originally.
Geoff you need lead additive to run this car in the long run.
My 30 year old landcruiser came out on spec. Never had the head lifted.
Geoff I looked up Renault for sale Gumtree Perth West Australia, one like yours came up, $16000 to be fair it did have interior trim.
I remember when these were new, selling against the VW beetle but with many advantages, 4 doors vs 2, water cooled engine meant it had a real heater, nicer interior etc. I wanted one but never got one. I did have a Renault R5 Le Car that was a lot of fun.
The Renault is only 8 : 1 compressing I believe. Your engine will probably run better with regular fuel. High octane is just a rating for resistance to knocking / pinging. Regular fuel actually has a higher BTU content than high octane.
A couple of guys I worked with were always tinkering with their engines and found out that they could do many mods to their engines for more power but using high octane didn't help at all unless this changed compression, I.E. new piston and head work.
Keep up the good fun! Always fun to drive a slow car fast as they say.
11.3mpg?!? I used to drive a 40' double deck coach with a trailer and could get 10mpg out of that lol
Cider ?
My buses in the 80s/90s I'd get 100 miles to a tenner, Bedford Barmy Army - 330s gotta love em!
Get the air pump from a 225 CI Chrysler slant six. Put it along the front drive belt. Hook it up to the carb intake. Made a Canadian Renault Le Car a little stoplight drag racer.
Chrysler your as old as me. Them air pump got ripped off and thrown away, good luck finding one. It would be funny to see if it might jump 2 hp+. though. I want him to race a go cart on a track. Just a 5 hp China clone of a Honda. just to show why we don't need big cars with 500 hp. I love them and have them, but a 4-seater go cart with say 20hp is more than enough to do 140 kph. No blistering 0-60 but it could. This also would make for a good Ev Golf cart motor swap with a small Genni to charge it nonstop. A few batteries a inverter and off you go. Best days of my life were riding my minibike to school through the ditches on .10 cent a week in the 70's. Herer in Canada they wanted 1 dollar a week and my single mother saved money letting me get that Artic cat leopard skin seat and burnt orange glitter paint 5 hp bike for my savings cutting lawns. Best 20 bucks I ever spent
Takes me back had a little R10 back lates 80s, what it lacked in power made up for in character was a fun car and comfy seats!
Great ending Geoff 👍
The video was cut short sadly! No idea why
I put my 1979 Moto Guzzi LeMans Mark 2 on the Dyno at a bike shop charity Dyno day. It has 1 5/8” straight through silencers on it. The entire bike shop emptied out of people, just to listen to it! A most average 50 Bhp at the rear wheel! 😂
My Mk3 sounded like a Sopwith Camel at WOT. Lots of induction roar. Mine had a warm cam and belt-drive timing
@@ix-Xafra - mine has gear-driven cams, pod filters, electronic ignition and more.
@@timhicks2154 yeah, I had the Pirahna electronic ignition and K&N pod filters with Conti replica pipes and I replaced the front forks with 38mm Marzocchis
@@ix-Xafra - I have the Lucas RITA & K&N’s.
GL05 MAP - appropriate plate, love it Chris! 🤓
I had a '69 R8 Gordini. Went like hell and cornered beautifully, if a bit sideways.About 100 bhp. Lovely!
I liked the revs on the ranage rover
Go, Renault! 👍👍
this DYNO guy reminds me of Reggie Perrin.
40 horses left after 55 years ain't bad at all is it, and it still sounds good. Bet we won't be seeing any EV still going after 55 years.
Needing some Gordini goodies
It's a beast Geoff. BTW, I like it better without the front fog lights. I would love to have that little Renault here in the U.S. However, I don't think the wife would be happy with me buying another car. With 4 of my own plus hers, I'm out of parking space.
That was a great result only loosing 10 Horses over 50 year. I wonder what my 1994 Mitsubishi Pajero would show, still goes well, and I run it on Shell Super Diesel, and regular service.
We had a 1968 in the late seventies. It was good thing the speed limit was 55 MPH. It blew a piston and was retired. It's the only engine I've seen where you can compress the valve springs by hand, and pull the keepers out.
It wouldn't take alot of work to get those 10 back either!
Just coming along M5 from Bromsgrove to Worcester this morning and over head warning signs saying “No EV charging at next services” even if you don’t like EVs that’s still got to be so annoying if you need to charge your car 🤦♂️
going along one day in a DAF 55 about 50 years back with four of us in it down a hill flat out at 65mph the driver wound the window down and the roof crumpled in on our heads, the metal is so thin the negative pressures in the car vacuumed the roof down, he rolled window up and roof went back to shape, no dents or creases, really funny little cars,
Apparently Mini have completely stopped production of EV mini
I had a standard Renault 10 major....(not new) definitely used.....well used, but that car got me all over what was West Germany in the days of the Deutschmark and even drove back and forth to UK a couple of times. The tyres on mine were those skinny Michelins...those fat tyres must take 30% of your HP.
Good news! Do if isn't leaking too much of it's fluids a rebuild or repacking should not be necessary 😃 Drive and enjoy 😎
Steering lock outside his own unit is hilarious haha
Good luck re mapping that.
I think a good old fashioned lump implant would be cool.
What a nice looking car!.
Great result. Probably try E5 and check the timing. 'In the day' I found a decoke and a new set of valve springs, HT leads, plugs, points and air filter transformed an old OHV lump like the A series which looks simular to the engine in the Renault. Please get it rustproofed now it's in damp , soggy UK.
I was seriously worried when I saw the gradient of those ramps...such little faith completely unfounded!😂
A Sunstrip would add 10 BHP to the Renault
Talking about car theft, the I Do Cars chap bought a X5 no keys and the car locked, showed you how to open it and then reprogramme new keys for it. Might be interesting to do a CZcams search, it was while you were on holiday.
Nice little Renauvation.
might be lean on this alchy petrol. give her a one size bigger main jet
Not a bad result for a car that age 👏
I had a 64 R10 and a 66R11 ,great cars ,economicl and the one thing English cars did not have .Comfortable reclining seats so it was much easier to get a bit of action with the ladies.
I'm 55 and I've lost more than that!
Geoff, check out the classics available in Portugal. There is literally no rust as roads not salted. Old Toyotas, Datsuns - cars here don't rot but get killed by poor mechanics...old Fords available but rare.
Best to you!
So great to see you are back my phone didn’t tell me you were back and I have all the notifications on. Love the old car my Valiant is 60 next year. Seen Lee in Australia and he had a drive in a real car a Valiant. It had no air conditioner though so it was too hot for the baby 😂
Interesting that your phone didn’t tell you about the new videos…
@@GeoffBuysCars yes for the last 5 videos no notifications and only stumbled onto your video today In the Renault I’ve checked I’m still subscribed and have notifications set. Hope you enjoyed your time away. Stop worrying about your videos we just like you, a guy we’d love to have as a mate to chat with at the pub or at a barbie.
started with 49. petrol is 5% alcohol but oil is better.
its had a rebuild for sure so block, head and carb are hanbuilt which COUNTS.
51 at the flywheel.
didnt see the filter... 52bhp at the flywheel. final answer
There’s a lot of ways to regain lost power. New spark plugs, fuel filter, oil filter, air filter, an oil change, fuel additive to clean out any gunk in the tank - basically keep the engine maintained and serviced consistently, it’ll retain its power output and last longer
Bose 301 mkii speakers on the wall. Nice very 80s!
dry ice that dent in the roof... use a co2 extibguisher will do the trick
Geoff, have you performance tuned the ignition timing like UncleTony'sGarage has shown everyone?
Not yet
@@GeoffBuysCars Well now you have a baseline to work from. I'd start with a compression test first. Wonder how much carbon there is on the valves?
What's happened to the water cooling system expansion bottle? Miine had a flat floor with rubber mats, just sloshed some water in and job done. The French are not afraid to go their own way engineering wise. Remember the gear stick on the dash? (R8?)
That Mange-Rover sounds flatulent!
You car is ace that range rover is crap seen the way they are built make sure that you ask the showroom was it built on Friday ❤😅
That shocking my go kart had 27 hp standard
And? It just cut off. Is there a part 2 coming?
Sometimes CZcams does this. So yeah, part 2 next I guess…!
@@GeoffBuysCarsThanks, Geoff.
40. That’s impressive
Blimey Geoff i bang some Lead Additive in there. think of your valves mate!!, in that lovely motor
It's beautiful (the Renault). I could do all the work on that myself. No smog crap just lovely engine. If you are of a certain age, you should be able to feel the 'reds'. 😂 40hp fantastic for original engine not runing on leaded fuel. My 1965 Chevy never ran as good when they stopped selling leaded fuel. But it was still better than anything you could buy now. Also had a '56 Ford V8 pickup that was a dream to drive and work on.
With your phone bill, we had issues where you would set up a direct debt, then make a one of payment and in backend somewhere in the magic billing system the one off payment would cancel the direct debt.....
I’ve got 5 Classic Historic motorcycles - it’s great! Tax & MOT exempt
55 Years ago, life was much less complicated. People spent their energy on the quality of family life instead of keeping up with the Jones, just to please others.
Nah Geoff, blow the engine to the max, and rebuild the engine. Think of the fun you’ll have rebuilding 😁👍
Second car i bought . It seemed, and was , way more modern than my anglia100e ,but it rusted away in front of my eyes.
11.3......Nothing wrong with that. That's about what I get in my Ram 2500 6.7 Turbodiesel. But I'm towing a 12K pound 5th wheel (I think it's a called a caravan over there).
My Dad had 2 new Renault 10 back in the day. lol
Any Japanese motorcycle Cruiser engine would make that car so much more driveable especially the linear gearbox hooked up to a hand stick.
Nice horse power to the people playing word association football match box
I wonder how long that Rangy’s motor will last?
Starky and Clutch.
Plz don’t sell the little Renault after my kids and wife my 60 year old Valiant is the love of my life. The missus knows I’m not out partying at the pub or eating money as everything goes into my baby. I love it.
So cool... your little French SA import still has a bit of pizazz... up the BOKKE!! 😁😁 Ja... must have been all that sunshine wine they fed the lil darling down there!!
This scares me watching cars on that road
The rated hp of 49bhp was probably rated at the flywheel, so 40bhp on a rolling road is not too bad, or?
Yes . Is Geoff talking wheel hp?
I hope you didn't pay too much for the ceiling with that big dent still being there.
happy with 25 whp!
I wonder in the future how many owners will be taking there 55 year old EV to be dynoed?
And still have the same pro rata power left from their original battery and motor setup🔋 🤔😲😳😁
No Geoff, you don't like Range Rovers. You mentioned that several times. Especially with 11,3 mpg...Why are you saying this? Just to please Chris? Better stick to your opinion.
Not a bad result 👍🏻 where's the big spots gone off the front ? Looked mint them
the kerb weight of the R10 was around 800kgs...
You could park that in the park the drunks would love it now the roofs not leaking 😂
Chopped off in mid-conversation! Did your phone run out of credit again? 🙂
I’m not sure what happened here. Will have to reupload the full version
Does the Range Rover come with a Greta fitted in the back seat? Nice but try parking it in Tower Car Park in York. Cars are getting bigger. Saw an old mini the other day my first car and it looked like a toy compared to the modern ones around.
My first car was a 1968 Fiat 850 Spyder and it had 52 hp. Wish I still had it!
In 71 I had a Porche 914 up my backside traveling down Rt 100 in Vermont at 60 mph until we got to Granville Gulch and the 30mph marked corners. I never came off the gas and when I exited the Gulch the 914 was a quarter mile in my rearview! 👺
That's more than enough HP to just ride the car it not a prepared rally car. That R10 look good and sound good and will last many more years. 🚗