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  • čas přidán 18. 04. 2024
  • Watcher leaving CZcams in the dumbest way possible. The popular CZcams channel known as Watcher is quitting CZcams to put their videos on an other platform and charge money for them...Who told these guys this was a good idea? Watcher goodbye, watcher drama, watcher entertainment
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  • @CamoranWasTaken
    @CamoranWasTaken Před měsícem +924

    "I learned how to be a human on CZcams"
    What the hell were you before CZcams??

    • @SillyLittlePookie
      @SillyLittlePookie Před měsícem +58

      Fetus

    • @Blobfishkat
      @Blobfishkat Před měsícem +53

      Kids who born in 2006 onwards:

    • @FukaiKokoro
      @FukaiKokoro Před měsícem +36

      Steven Lim always gave me the creeps I can't even explain it.

    • @papascronch
      @papascronch Před měsícem +9

      I was nothing til I put on the play button.

    • @manboy4720
      @manboy4720 Před měsícem +2

      look me in my eyes and tell me i'm not human.

  • @metalcadude2
    @metalcadude2 Před měsícem +864

    So they want to rely less on advertisers, who have shit loads of money, to then rely more on the viewers, who have a lot less money?
    Fantastic business minds they have

  • @cloakthelibrarian
    @cloakthelibrarian Před měsícem +433

    They already have a patreon with $5, $10, $25, and $100 tiers, and it's been around since the beginning of the channel

    • @mentalkrissie614
      @mentalkrissie614 Před měsícem +68

      Right? Like just promote it more or add more benifts, add a CZcams join button, do lives with super chat on, but this? 😑

    • @TheLoveMe33
      @TheLoveMe33 Před měsícem +39

      I supported them on patreon bc of my love for ghost files and get early access. But that’s about it. Like there’s basically nothing on there. I think if they put debrief or something like that on there as exclusive content. Like that would be a much better financial decision than making a streaming service… I’m so disappointed and sad I spent my hard earned money for them to just ditch us fans💔

    • @shilohthelonelygoose8888
      @shilohthelonelygoose8888 Před měsícem +2

      I was waiting for someone to say this

  • @anothersockaccount652lol
    @anothersockaccount652lol Před měsícem +994

    You can take the man from Buzzfeed but you can't take Buzzfeed from the man

  • @goldy_on_pc930
    @goldy_on_pc930 Před měsícem +93

    Their biggest mistake was appointing Steven as CEO

  • @chr1795
    @chr1795 Před měsícem +959

    In context, the watcher group used to work for buzzfeed and their moving away from CZcams to another platform that charges users to watch their videos and it doesn’t make sense because they make a lot of money from CZcams and users can watch free too. It’s stupid.

    • @lds_drive
      @lds_drive Před měsícem +28

      I was gonna ask are those guys from Buzzfeed. LOL

    • @chr1795
      @chr1795 Před měsícem +24

      @@lds_drive yes they used to make unsolved mystery vids and worked with them

    • @yelhsasokolova8561
      @yelhsasokolova8561 Před měsícem +44

      ​@lds_drive they were from the only good part of buzzfeed, until buzzfeed screwed them over and they left

    • @chr1795
      @chr1795 Před měsícem +21

      @@yelhsasokolova8561 I’ve heard of that and now it’s their downfall now

    • @codenamemati
      @codenamemati Před měsícem +20

      Greed... greed never changes

  • @HazbinCovenWitch
    @HazbinCovenWitch Před měsícem +372

    Them:"It's not about the money."
    They say while "leaving" the platform to charge for their videos to get more money via subscription.

  • @danyxrevosky9656
    @danyxrevosky9656 Před měsícem +240

    They're yapping for 14 minutes 32 second just to ask their fans money!? That's pathetic

  • @Angelique24118
    @Angelique24118 Před měsícem +73

    I hope the”Wendy’s effect” works on this. some of y’all might remember a couple of weeks ago Wendy’s said that they were going to raise prices at certain times of day. the decision got such backlash they rolled it back, and even offered discounts.
    I love Watcher so much, I hope they reconsider.

  • @sweethistortea
    @sweethistortea Před měsícem +553

    The way the video was filmed reminded me of those CZcamsr apology videos.

    • @sweethistortea
      @sweethistortea Před měsícem +35

      @vixit1957 All that was missing was the ukulele and the fake tears.

    • @GabePerez7050Real
      @GabePerez7050Real Před měsícem

      @@sweethistortea wait are you a woman because if you are, how are you allowed in this country?

    • @GabePerez7050Real
      @GabePerez7050Real Před měsícem

      @@sweethistorteaWBLDM

    • @Tummyachesurvior
      @Tummyachesurvior Před měsícem +23

      Well, they’ll probably be making another one soon lol

    • @jbearclowater
      @jbearclowater Před měsícem +4

      Good practice I guess. I doubt they'll do a full course-correct and abandon the streaming platform idea altogether (I'm sure that was expensive to build), but I am half-expecting them to try and mitigate this disaster with an apology-esque video saying they're going to soften the transfer to the streaming platform.

  • @finn049
    @finn049 Před měsícem +537

    This was such a dumb idea. I don’t know what they expected to happen.

    • @jrwizz
      @jrwizz Před měsícem

      They r leftist.. they always want more for nothing..

    • @jbearclowater
      @jbearclowater Před měsícem +38

      I really wonder. It feels like they expected a really warm reception from the fans (which is completely out of touch), and they must be scrambling right now. This is definitely an 'Icarus flying too close to the sun' moment for Watcher.

    • @rexx5031
      @rexx5031 Před měsícem +14

      ​@@jbearclowater Comment section in that video is damning... They chose the WRONG audience to do this to so I don't understand how thy expected differently. This would be VERY unpopular even if they catered to some more well off audiences that I'm familiar with, but so many of the comments are from lower-income users bringing up the economy (which honestly isn't as bad as it potentially could be in the US so things can get even worse in the future).

    • @Megalodonix
      @Megalodonix Před měsícem +1

      Gotta get a grip

    • @TrashK1ngg
      @TrashK1ngg Před měsícem

      they probably expected their fans to be head over heels about giving them even more moneu

  • @4eyedvgn
    @4eyedvgn Před měsícem +1207

    Not ryan and shane man come on

    • @i_are_gm122
      @i_are_gm122 Před měsícem +216

      You either die based, or live long enough to become cringe 😔

    • @GabePerez7050Real
      @GabePerez7050Real Před měsícem +1

      @@i_are_gm122 i’m going to live based I choose my own destiny I DON’T TAKE ADVICE FROM ANIME FOR FURRIES LIKE YOU

    • @greekpestnyc3145
      @greekpestnyc3145 Před měsícem

      @@i_are_gm122this goes deep….on skibidi..👊😭

    • @WhoisVinnie
      @WhoisVinnie Před měsícem

      ​@@i_are_gm122Tru fax

    • @GabePerez7050Real
      @GabePerez7050Real Před měsícem +14

      @@i_are_gm122 i’m gonna live a legend

  • @Amyisbabo
    @Amyisbabo Před měsícem +44

    Fun fact, they making ALOT of money from their patreon, tours, ads and merch. So there’s no reason for them to say they don’t have any profit. It’s just greedy and asking fans for money when they could scale down the production and find location that doesn’t have 70k rent and don’t buy a damn tesla

  • @ZapperRS
    @ZapperRS Před měsícem +347

    Putting their videos on another platform and charge their viewers to watch it? Who in their right mind thought this was a good idea?

    • @giraffeorganic
      @giraffeorganic Před měsícem +33

      The 3 stooges apparently

    • @CapucineNighly
      @CapucineNighly Před měsícem +20

      Imagine how livid their Patreon subs are after they dropped the news. They gotta double pay for the monthly sub AND the streamin platform to watch their subpar content.

    • @molliesaunders5495
      @molliesaunders5495 Před měsícem +6

      The CEO Steven lim

    • @BloodylocksBathory
      @BloodylocksBathory Před měsícem +5

      People who want to eat $500 steaks covered in gold leaf.

    • @bluetiger2468
      @bluetiger2468 Před měsícem +5

      If they did that without leaving CZcams, I would see it as a bad business idea. BUT it's even worse when they are straight up leaving CZcams and expecting their viewers to follow them. The majority of their views watch their content for free, as soon as you remove the "free" sign, people will leave and find something else. The people who were willing to give money already decided to do that through Patreon. So, I guess they need to stop supporting them on Patreon to pay for this site? Or do they expect them to pay for their site and Patreon?

  • @mariyamiller3474
    @mariyamiller3474 Před měsícem +136

    The way the music switched from sad to upbeat when they went in to advertisement mode

  • @kennedykilla9344
    @kennedykilla9344 Před měsícem +136

    Such a shame. I’ve watched Ryan and Shane for over 6 years even when they still were with Buzzfeed and making the transition to Watcher

    • @AerCloud
      @AerCloud Před měsícem +14

      Yup, been with them since 2016, but I unsubscribed when they announced this

    • @FukaiKokoro
      @FukaiKokoro Před měsícem +10

      They lost 40k subs already.
      I dont know why more havent unsubscribed

    • @darkunicornblood5140
      @darkunicornblood5140 Před měsícem +8

      @@FukaiKokoroI haven’t unsubscribed just in case it’s like a weird, sick joke…. Idk, I am in denial and probably need to grieve I guess before I say goodbye for certain

    • @richcast66
      @richcast66 Před měsícem

      @@FukaiKokoro It's because there is no point. The channel will be dead soon anyway.

  • @duffman6577
    @duffman6577 Před měsícem +424

    I love these constant reminders of how much of a scum bag I am not in this life

    • @Lola_Nico
      @Lola_Nico Před měsícem +37

      Yes, but it’s a double edged sword when you’re a fan of someone, especially if so an OG fan and then that celeb/ Internet personality turns out to not be the person they portrayed themselves to be. Feels like I got lied to or betrayed by some people I was a fan of.

    • @SproutiusShrubiusthe16th
      @SproutiusShrubiusthe16th Před měsícem

      Thank you force of the universe for not making me a pedophile or a zoophile

    • @spaceghost8886
      @spaceghost8886 Před měsícem

      @@Lola_Nicolesson learned tho, just don’t make the mistake of putting these people (internet personalities and celebrities) on any kind of pedestal in your mind in the future. All people are fallible and flawed at the end of the day.

  • @BrianaCunningham
    @BrianaCunningham Před měsícem +149

    They dont need netflix quality production. If you want to do that, do a side project. Their audience never asked for the super fancy stuff.

    • @spaceghost8886
      @spaceghost8886 Před měsícem +13

      Crushed by their own ambition. Many such cases.

  • @dylives7667
    @dylives7667 Před měsícem +221

    _"I learned how to be a human on YT..."_
    * flashback to the LiveLeak, creepypasta, MLG dubstep montages and Filthy Frank days *

    • @henyo5409
      @henyo5409 Před měsícem +12

      leafy

    • @Blobfishkat
      @Blobfishkat Před měsícem +7

      Stop reminding me of filthy frank era man. It's cringe thinking about people including me trying to be cool and edgy back in the day lol

    • @rexx5031
      @rexx5031 Před měsícem +13

      @@Blobfishkat Wait, people thought Filthy Frank edge was cool to imitate? I just thought it was funny in a screwed up way. Nothing to actually strive to be yourself.

    • @Blobfishkat
      @Blobfishkat Před měsícem +1

      @@rexx5031 I mean look at Logan Paul where do you think did he get his public nuisance content idea from? And unfortunately it's not just him.

    • @spaceghost8886
      @spaceghost8886 Před měsícem

      Me watching Day at The Zoo:

  • @zara8289
    @zara8289 Před měsícem +163

    They have a pateron with 11k subs and a minimum level of $5-$6 a month; so they are at a minimum pulling in $50k/mo there ontop of the YT revenue.

    • @Ghostvertigo
      @Ghostvertigo Před měsícem +34

      Only 5800 were paid members but still that's $28000 and they didn't advertise they had one. I only found out about their patreon today! They also do sponsors ads, merch so I'm feeling like this was a plan in place for a long time

    • @afriendorfoe
      @afriendorfoe Před měsícem +20

      They also do live shows.

    • @lili-oy1xf
      @lili-oy1xf Před měsícem +17

      And merch

    • @Amsayy
      @Amsayy Před měsícem +11

      Don't forget any sponsorships, free accommodation, compensated food etc. I'm pretty sure they get a lot of that for free in exchange for being shown in videos

    • @sarahm.8013
      @sarahm.8013 Před měsícem +3

      they sell merch for 80 dollars and merch usually sells out pretty fast

  • @TimothyCollins
    @TimothyCollins Před měsícem +44

    I don't even pay for youtube premium. Why in the world would I pay for the same content just because it doesn't gave ads? Nope. Watcher is now dead in tye water.

  • @sarahm.8013
    @sarahm.8013 Před měsícem +40

    it was probably steven's idea. that guy just wants to spend a fuckton of money on expensive food and travelling for a series that does not get many views. like huh, i wonder where you can cut costs???

    • @sarajerde8280
      @sarajerde8280 Před měsícem +4

      For real. Compare the premise of Steven's shows to Ryan and Shane's (which for the most part is literally just the two of them in a room with a few props with the exception of Ghost Files and Weird Wonderful)

    • @vanessac1721
      @vanessac1721 Před měsícem +6

      Shane and Ryan are coming owners. They deserve blame too. People need to stop simping for them when they show their true colours.

  • @Jikuro_
    @Jikuro_ Před měsícem +109

    The problem with the "Goodbye" videos recently are that they are never actually goodbye videos.

    • @TehWhiteTiger
      @TehWhiteTiger Před měsícem +4

      Even matpat is still making videos despite him literally crying about quitting.

    • @BlackDogsAndLadybugs
      @BlackDogsAndLadybugs Před měsícem +2

      ​@@TehWhiteTiger Oh, I thought there was just some pre-recorded videos to make the transition easier. Are the other members not running it still?

    • @TehWhiteTiger
      @TehWhiteTiger Před měsícem

      Oh that may be the case. I got the impression he left the main channel but is still doing gtlive videos.

    • @howdidigethere9061
      @howdidigethere9061 Před měsícem +2

      @@TehWhiteTigerhe Is tho. He’s just staying on gtlive for a bit but eventually he’s going to stop that as well

    • @Loner098
      @Loner098 Před měsícem

      ...Unless it's because the CZcamsr in question is literally going to die, like Technoblade.

  • @John-Doe-Yo
    @John-Doe-Yo Před měsícem +108

    When CZcamsrs do this it never ends well. They’re just shooting themselves in the foot. 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @CallMeKatMeow13
    @CallMeKatMeow13 Před měsícem +43

    I’ve been watching them before they left Buzzfeed.
    I saw this video this morning and it felt like a slap in the face. It definitely won’t do well and they will try to crawl back but, idk how people will take it if they comeback

  • @roseyt415
    @roseyt415 Před měsícem +72

    How to lose money speedrun

  • @Chicken_And_Cardboard
    @Chicken_And_Cardboard Před měsícem +117

    *Imagine the most views you have gotten on a video in months is about you quitting making videos* 😭

  • @Skellie_Jellie
    @Skellie_Jellie Před měsícem +203

    I used to like Shane and Ryan when they did their Unsolved and Puppet History videos on Buzzfeed. When they moved over to Watcher it felt like a overproduced podcast of stuff that wasn't that interesting.
    Edit: Mb Puppet History was on Watcher not Buzzfeed, I'm a little stupid.

    • @rich1217
      @rich1217 Před měsícem +10

      Shane died in season 2

    • @amandaklaus5502
      @amandaklaus5502 Před měsícem +3

      Puppet history was produced by watcher not buzzfeed unsolved, yeah I agree with the rest

    • @Amsayy
      @Amsayy Před měsícem +13

      This is probably a hot take of ours but I agree lmao I didn't watch them when they went independent. It wasn't the same. They weren't just two little dudes who worked together hanging out. I was proud of their success but I preferred their energy when they weren't their own bosses.

    • @nannyalberte
      @nannyalberte Před měsícem +4

      No, but Shane had a history show on BF, Ruining History

  • @Harleymotor
    @Harleymotor Před měsícem +49

    The thing is, they already have a patreon! Plus Amazon Prime already has their old Buzzfeed show so I don’t think they’d be opposed to partnering with watcher if pitched? Like, going onto another streaming sight for a new show just to see how fans react would have been a smarter move- but to up end their whole channel for their own site?? Plus I’ve been following them since their buzzfeed days. Many fans have; many of us are adults with other financial responsibilities, and use watcher as a get away- putting it behind a paywall just wont fit in with our lives

  • @minimoose4574
    @minimoose4574 Před měsícem +15

    Feels like a parody. Hits all the notes of an obnoxious apology video

  • @yelhsasokolova8561
    @yelhsasokolova8561 Před měsícem +88

    I love those guys so much, I've been watching them since their buzzfeed days. That video was so disappointing to see and it's the first CZcams video I've ever gone out of my way to hit the dislike button on. Soul crushing.

  • @andrzejszpak688
    @andrzejszpak688 Před měsícem +34

    the icing on the cake is that they already have a patreon

  • @DN27-od1wh
    @DN27-od1wh Před měsícem +93

    Zero yt videos are worth 60 bucks lol.

    • @m0onm0th
      @m0onm0th Před měsícem +19

      I wouldn't even pay 60 dollars for *Kurzgesagt.*

    • @PabloBudgaga-ui9gu
      @PabloBudgaga-ui9gu Před měsícem +2

      @@m0onm0thfuck I don’t even pay for movies

  • @skylaralley2465
    @skylaralley2465 Před měsícem +17

    Here’s the thing: THEY HAVE A PATREON. they should’ve just focused on that and posted more exclusive content on that while still staying on CZcams.

  • @monsterguyx6322
    @monsterguyx6322 Před měsícem +10

    When the video starts with >serious face, deep breath< that's a huge red flag. 🚩

  • @nc5193
    @nc5193 Před měsícem +14

    I feel Shane didn't agree with this plan, body language in the sofa and even his voice is lacking the usual enthusiasm.
    Could be wrong but that's the read I get.

    • @michaeljones2162
      @michaeljones2162 Před měsícem +11

      This plan is probably from the CEO of Watcher Steven Lim. This is a strange choice for Ryan and Shane to come up with alone given the Buzzfeed history.

  • @4kach24
    @4kach24 Před měsícem +50

    This shit is so upsetting
    I was having a blast before I got a notification from them...had to immediately read the comments
    Been following guys for 7 years and the end of an era is disappointing

    • @yelhsasokolova8561
      @yelhsasokolova8561 Před měsícem +6

      I sincerely sincerely hope that the immense backlash convinces them to change their minds. Makes me so genuinely sad

    • @SillyLittlePookie
      @SillyLittlePookie Před měsícem

      @@yelhsasokolova8561it prolly will

    • @Chesterfield.Esquire98
      @Chesterfield.Esquire98 Před měsícem

      @@yelhsasokolova8561 I hope they do, I’m about to lose my home because of lack of work. Even if I was working enough to afford rent rn I would rather buy $6 of Raman than pay to watch them. This is greed at its core.

  • @lauryngibson1871
    @lauryngibson1871 Před měsícem +19

    They also planned to completely remove all of their CZcams content so that viewers sign up, as told in an interview by Variety. Now, they’ve received horrible backlash and have decided to rescind that decision. It’s just about the worst reaction to anything I’ve ever seen on CZcams by a fanbase (besides their fellow buzzfeed alumni having to cover their asses for the Ned situation)

  • @princess4509
    @princess4509 Před měsícem +15

    should’ve announced that they were scaling down production instead 😭

  • @pudgeydoodles6314
    @pudgeydoodles6314 Před měsícem +32

    I hope they realize their huge mistake, but I doubt they'll be able to walk it back. A part of me hopes it was a third party that strong armed them into making the change, but another part of me knows people can get greedy, and were probably offered some kind of huge deal to make the switch.

  • @thezer0effect
    @thezer0effect Před měsícem +68

    I feel like some "Goodbye" videos are mostly fake. They end up coming back to CZcams within a week or the next following month

    • @SillyLittlePookie
      @SillyLittlePookie Před měsícem +6

      Frrrr its just for attention

    • @localabsurdist6661
      @localabsurdist6661 Před měsícem +2

      Yeah but they mostly don’t fuck up so badly and make 90% of active watchers mad

  • @hjul
    @hjul Před měsícem +7

    these people will hire a whole camera crew and rent a set just for people like me to listen to the audio while scrolling the comment section

  • @myinfo9406
    @myinfo9406 Před měsícem +6

    They make TONS of money. From ads, to a 12,000+ member patreon, AND a merch line. It’s not about “making enough to pay staff” it’s about them being greedy and wanting to have both hands in the jar

  • @Crambles
    @Crambles Před měsícem +21

    Been following this all day as (former) fan, still have YET to see a supportive comment…

  • @thisisdumbaf69
    @thisisdumbaf69 Před měsícem +295

    No one really likes Steven Lim yet he's the CEO.
    They dont have enough money but Steven eating the most expensive foods/in restaurants.
    They cant have new subs on their streaming services who're just chime in.
    They yapping about tv quality but its only bothering THEM, not us.
    They make 50-100k/month on patreon, ~3000$/month after views, AND there's merch too.
    Its giving greedy....so disappointing. Loved them, now unsubbed.

    • @marialyar6097
      @marialyar6097 Před měsícem +42

      I think a lot of this is steven desperately trying to become more respected and its backfiring sooooo much

    • @riktheyellowmonkey
      @riktheyellowmonkey Před měsícem +3

      I think it's closer to 600k a month that on patreon.. No?

    • @billpotter7162
      @billpotter7162 Před měsícem +7

      Steven is the worst :(

    • @lordcrayzar
      @lordcrayzar Před měsícem +16

      It’s not “giving” greedy. It IS pure greed.

    • @zi6768
      @zi6768 Před měsícem

      They do have enough money

  • @sweetheart_cosplays
    @sweetheart_cosplays Před měsícem +6

    They HAVE a Patreon. With 12k+ subscribers and a bottom tier of $5, MINIMUM they make $60k per month, which is more than some people make in a YEAR!

  • @babayaga4320
    @babayaga4320 Před měsícem +7

    The audacity of them to ask their subscribers to add yet another subscription service, which are mostly college kids living paycheck to paycheck, btw, and pay for their ultra-high production costs, is one of the most out of touch, and narcissistic things I've ever heard of. If the production cost is too high, lower it, don't hire an entire crew every time you go to a location, do some sh*t yourselves, downsize, do anything but this.

  • @sentientplant9658
    @sentientplant9658 Před měsícem +15

    it's the fact that all their budget goes into production quality when no one except them care about it. YT videos have surpassed TV production quality, but back when they didn't care about production quality and was just 2 dudes, a desk, and a black screen with yellow/blue text, they actually HAD the money to go to Mexico's Island of the Haunted Dolls. Steven is blowing all their money on shit that made the quality of their channel WORSE, abandon projects even though they did well, need to fund Steven's lifestyle, and Ryan and Shane are just LETTING THIS HAPPEN.
    There are business analyists who are highlighting very important questions (such as, what does the data from your audience say about this?) that were seemingly completely ignored. Steven has no experience running a business, and he's the CEO of Watcher.
    Not to mention that in this economy, the vast majority of Watcher fans cannot afford to eat, let alone pay Netflix prices for mid content. We can't find jobs, the ones we do have don't pay us enough to make rent or eat, we're paying off student debts, and the viewers who are minors have the same struggles on a family level. All of this will be unaffordable for international fans as well due to the conversion rates, and they'll be paying up to $30/mo for this.
    So Ryan, Shane, Steven, no this isn't "affordable for anyone and everyone." You're out of touch with everything.

  • @sorrel_leaf_vespers
    @sorrel_leaf_vespers Před měsícem +12

    The thing is- they already have a Patreon! THEY DO! They mention it a lot! That's the reason I'm confused. If this is about funding... what about the Patreon? What's going on with that?

  • @nanosmokex6998
    @nanosmokex6998 Před měsícem +33

    Never heard of Watcher

    • @johnathanrush4666
      @johnathanrush4666 Před měsícem +7

      Same!

    • @pearl4ever821
      @pearl4ever821 Před měsícem +6

      Me either

    • @sk1zlet
      @sk1zlet Před měsícem +7

      I haven't either

    • @RealEthan09
      @RealEthan09 Před měsícem +8

      Same here 😂

    • @TheAnthonyG.
      @TheAnthonyG. Před měsícem +19

      This was actually a very good point someone made in the comments of their latest "Goodbye CZcams" video. They argued that moving to their own streaming platform hinders the continued growth and discoverability their channel would have gotten if they just stayed on CZcams which would have made them more money.
      The fact they are now moving to their own platform basically kills any and all chance of someone new, like yourself, from finding out about them and subscribing if they just stayed on CZcams.

  • @hello_world2767
    @hello_world2767 Před měsícem +6

    the real kicker is that they ALREADY HAVE A PATREON 😭

  • @BandofHands
    @BandofHands Před měsícem +4

    "CZcams taught me to be human"
    The first time I was on youtube, a guy threaten to end my family's lives, while the rest were telling him to kill me and leave my family out of it. All of this over a political argument.

  • @nicholruaya8120
    @nicholruaya8120 Před měsícem +5

    Agree on the Patreon thing but here's the thing, my dude - they already have a Patreon

  • @-_-lmapo3388
    @-_-lmapo3388 Před měsícem +5

    Sometimes it hurts seeing creators you love become greedy and disgusting

  • @eszz1ro
    @eszz1ro Před měsícem +11

    They don’t even need to do this like they could do early releases or clips on patreon or something if they want an extra buck 😭

    • @MittensZora
      @MittensZora Před měsícem

      Especially with them already having a patreon

  • @Alyrulz421
    @Alyrulz421 Před měsícem +28

    There’s no reason for them to leave their CZcams channel and abandon ship, at least keeping it on the backburner makes so much more sense. If they posted short videos like 5-6 min of clips from the official versions then advertised that the full uncut video could be seen with the subscription service it would work so well, it works extremely well for many other CZcams channels. This is actually heartbreakingly stupid and I cannot believe this is coming from some of the most beloved content creators on the internet right now, EVERYONE loved ghost files, this is just such a sad way to set fire to your legacy

  • @darrenm.7980
    @darrenm.7980 Před měsícem +8

    they actually do have a patreon already, with 11.5k members

  • @Bella_Kilori
    @Bella_Kilori Před měsícem +34

    CZcams is kinda crazy

    • @devisals
      @devisals Před měsícem

      Crazy for allowing bots like u

  • @TaraSmallss
    @TaraSmallss Před měsícem +5

    So they have been talking about how much money everything cost for a long time. They've been very open that they spend way more money than they have. That's actually my favorite channel, so I'm really bummed. I've watched Ryan and Shane since they were on BuzzFeed in the very beginning, but I'm not paying any amount of money. I'm broke too. They need to just cut back, and make the videos in a much simpler, cheaper way. Like you said it doesn't have to be Netflix. It's freaking CZcams. God this is gonna backfire so bad on them.

  • @OrientalPearl
    @OrientalPearl Před měsícem +7

    I understand their tight profit margins. I spend 30k a year on my videos. However, trying to charge viewers isn’t a good idea at all.

    • @FukaiKokoro
      @FukaiKokoro Před měsícem +3

      They get like 30-60k A MONTH from pateron though. Maybe instead this dumpster fire they should have promoted the pateron more

  • @staytuned2L337
    @staytuned2L337 Před měsícem +5

    2:16 insanely stupid. Their content isn't unfriendly to advertisers. Obviously fkn not given the (actually pretty good) ads they put in their videos. They were sponsored by scentbird, vpns, rocket money, hellofresh, etc etc etc.
    Obviously this is an absolute bullshit reason.

  • @John-Doe-Yo
    @John-Doe-Yo Před měsícem +14

    They should make a pattern and reach out to an already popular streaming service

    • @rich1217
      @rich1217 Před měsícem +1

      No way

    • @FukaiKokoro
      @FukaiKokoro Před měsícem +1

      They ALREADY had a pateron. It was making 60k a MONTH.
      SO.. Maybe they should have promoted it more. And not make this mistake

    • @larryfoulke1596
      @larryfoulke1596 Před měsícem

      Someone actually say that they offered very good money to roll ads in their videos but they refuse it
      (Take it with grain of salt pls)

  • @TwiDashFTW
    @TwiDashFTW Před měsícem +5

    The thing is people only watch Watcher for Shane and Ryan (at least a large portion, ik some like the others, but Shane and Ryan made it). Like Shane and Ryan left Buzzfeed and came to Watcher and their fans followed and lifted the channel up. So it's like wow.

  • @Akiscray7777
    @Akiscray7777 Před měsícem +6

    Uggghhh, people can't just stick with what's good for them. They always want MORE. You can't always GET more. Sometimes it's not worth it.

  • @sinjin8576
    @sinjin8576 Před měsícem +2

    "Television content you want"
    No one south of 40 wants "television content"

  • @mooma10
    @mooma10 Před měsícem +8

    Finally you talk about a topic I havent heard 20 times

  • @Dan-ji4db
    @Dan-ji4db Před měsícem +3

    They didnt have the common sense to put up a poll on their yt channel - which would have been free feedback.

  • @serenehavencrafts
    @serenehavencrafts Před měsícem +9

    I loved their buzzfeed videos and when they started their ghost hunting on watcher I was so happy. This sucks though. Im lucky that I have enough spare money to indulge on things, but that's because I still live with my parents at 19. If I paid rent, groceries, gas, and other stuff like that I wouldn't have the extra money to.

    • @TwiDashFTW
      @TwiDashFTW Před měsícem +7

      Tbh I could get the membership, but I ain't out of solidarity to those who can't.

    • @serenehavencrafts
      @serenehavencrafts Před měsícem +2

      @@TwiDashFTW honestly kinda the same here. I watched moistcriticals lives for a little last night and he found they also had a patreon.
      So idk why they made the change because they already charge some viewers for exclusive content but now want to charge anyone that wants to view them?? I genuinely don't get the thought process. Maybe if they made the paywall site for people who want to help support and get extra content from the support but again, they already had the patreon

    • @TwiDashFTW
      @TwiDashFTW Před měsícem

      @@serenehavencrafts yeah the best thing they could have done is either trouble shoot by releasing a completely new show as exclusive content on their own site. Or they could have moved everything, but then released it for free after a certain time (I feel like people would still be upset at this though)

    • @aliceclark9120
      @aliceclark9120 Před měsícem +2

      I feel like it truly is a slap in the face to ppl who have watched them for seemingly forever. I remember their low budget ruining history and the really cheap little props it was hilarious and you got to laugh along with it . This just makes me sad that they can just act like they need more money when they were not making a big show of their episodes and still getting paid !

  • @jessiejeanne9717
    @jessiejeanne9717 Před měsícem +3

    Oh yeah... it's like senior citizen rock bands and their 5 "farewell tours"... looking at you, Kiss!

  • @letterb2by
    @letterb2by Před měsícem +26

    CZcams is kinda crazy.

  • @flameguy3416
    @flameguy3416 Před měsícem +4

    What do you expect from Buzzfeed employees.

  • @akirahikaru6743
    @akirahikaru6743 Před měsícem +3

    Even if they step back from this stupid decision, their career is already dead.
    You shouldn't insult your audience inteligence like this.

  • @venomshot2815
    @venomshot2815 Před měsícem +4

    Why tf would they do that lmao? Their quality of videos has gone down in general since starting the channel. I stopped watching them even for free and they want to CHARGE people like tf

  • @Dunkys1234
    @Dunkys1234 Před měsícem +1

    I used to watch them back in thei buzzfeed days. Back then, it was literally just them with some gopros and some amazon basics ghost hunting stuff. I miss that content.

  • @Trish0978
    @Trish0978 Před měsícem +3

    From what I've seen in the comments (because I really don't pay attention -- I barely have money for the like 2 subscriptions I currently have), they already HAVE a patreon that takes in ~$100k/month. They do not, however, have CZcams memberships, which they could have enabled and found a way to make it worth it to people

  • @Collidedatoms
    @Collidedatoms Před měsícem +2

    I want to make a parody of their "goodbye" video so badly!

  • @mossypebbles
    @mossypebbles Před měsícem +1

    I watch Watcher pretty much everyday and to see this happen is extreamly disheartening as a loyal viewer. There was also a lot of lead up to the video like "watch out for our next video👀" I had even submitted a story to them on tumblr to read on Too Many Spirits and I want to revoke that if they're gonna read my story and I can't even watch it without spending money. I'm sure if people knew about this beforehand the wouldn't want to submit content to them.

  • @selenedolan1101
    @selenedolan1101 Před měsícem +2

    This feels like a massive Steven thing

  • @hellozero
    @hellozero Před měsícem +2

    Thing is, they have a Patreon - it makes them minimum 600k a year

  • @Compa_Doom
    @Compa_Doom Před měsícem +3

    I get they feel that they want to get bigger, but going in this direction is such a bad idea. like you said going to another platform just for them is insane.

  • @eclipsetheengineer4338
    @eclipsetheengineer4338 Před měsícem +3

    8:29 Scotland is IN the U.K.

  • @maxevocal
    @maxevocal Před měsícem +2

    Apparently they did have a patreon! I learned that from the Goodbye CZcams comments section tho

  • @zenothecubone2022
    @zenothecubone2022 Před měsícem +2

    Why does this remind me of what rooster teeth did with their shit. I'm also disappointed with this news because I'm (starting to now be was) a fan of these guys even back before they created watcher.

  • @FinkDaMushyCat
    @FinkDaMushyCat Před měsícem +10

    Goodbye youtube, this is going to be my last comment before leaving the platform forever :'(

  • @derperpines
    @derperpines Před měsícem +2

    That’s the funny thing… they do have a Patreon. Just sucked at advertising it.

  • @KonaSuba
    @KonaSuba Před měsícem +2

    CZcams is so big, I have never heard of this channel before

  • @ruikirisame1744
    @ruikirisame1744 Před měsícem +2

    "i learned how to be a human on youtube"
    that's... not really a good thing. especially back then when people like onision were hot shit

  • @project_Notorious
    @project_Notorious Před měsícem +1

    thank you for speaking out man fr

  • @radiantrosecure3721
    @radiantrosecure3721 Před měsícem +3

    The whole thing is so tone deaf...the whole world is basically in recession.. absolutely disappointing

  • @tori4267
    @tori4267 Před měsícem +4

    They will crawling back to CZcams

  • @crazy_old_bat
    @crazy_old_bat Před měsícem

    This feels so much more about EGO than greed/money. They left Buzzfeed and started their own company and want it to be more than “just a CZcams channel”. They seem to have high quality filmmaker aspirations yet hope to rely on Shane and Ryan’s likability alone to fund it. 😬

  • @koalaplays8855
    @koalaplays8855 Před měsícem +2

    They got 25 employees 💀, no but fr I love this channel I’m really sad.

  • @MsAquaDaffodil
    @MsAquaDaffodil Před měsícem +4

    I really dislike this Lim guy, I don’t even understand why he’s around

  • @Autonomous_17
    @Autonomous_17 Před měsícem +2

    I love those guys, ive been there since season 2 on unsolved true crime but sadly as i stated below in a comment on their channel I think this is a goodbye. The financial thing is a whole thing I dont want to get into but I also feel that when they moved to watcher they could never quite capture the escense of the og series. Ryan just doesnt seemed scared anymore and mysteries in my opinion is trash when compared to true crime.

  • @LaSenoritakass
    @LaSenoritakass Před měsícem

    I never thought the reason The watcher would be trending was because of this. I have seen though on tiktok that people are sharing one account for their streaming thingy, I think they made a discord to stream any new videos. It sucks I loved their ghost files, and mystery files videos.

  • @mysteries_117
    @mysteries_117 Před měsícem +3

    Not everyone wants to buy a subcription service

  • @thestonepilot8242
    @thestonepilot8242 Před měsícem

    Those live reactions are INSAAAAANE

  • @21palica
    @21palica Před měsícem +1

    For the first time in history CZcams has overtaken all streaming services except Netflix in viewer numbers. On the other hand, legacy media is dying, the ad rates are way down, the entire entertainment industry is struggling and this is the time they decide to switch business models, start charging 6$ and doing it on their own?! I mean, O.K., if that is how much you believe in the quality of your content and the loyalty of your audience. I just hope this venture isn't the only thing they got going, in case it fails.

  • @BloodylocksBathory
    @BloodylocksBathory Před měsícem +3

    This is all Stephen Lim's fault *I KID I KIIIID*. Joking aside, we subscribed to Shane and Ryan's content for the laughs and discussion, we didn't subscribe to their content for a budget covering 9 producers. We loved their episodes when the set was a simple table with a wall and a mannequin in the background.

  • @sophiags4240
    @sophiags4240 Před měsícem

    What's crazy is that THEY HAVE HAD A PATREON for YEARS and never promoted it!! They had an already established avenue of funds they could expand - advertise it more, amp up the content there to draw more people in, etc. They've apologized and shifted their approach by now, but still.