The Greatest Underdog Story In StarCraft II History
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Watched his entire run Live - I was losing my mind. So happy for the guy you could tell his dream came true. Best IEM I've ever watched
Same, greatest IEM ever
Ive never been more hype watching sc2 than watching time beat the top three. I was yelling when he beat maru lol, also wholesome dude.
Same here I'm still in shock. I can't wait for more hype videos to come out about this run. The whole run was just too good to be true. He was down 0-2 to the best zerg in the world then beat him 3 games in a row, then took out the best protoss in the world, then won 4 straight against Maru my mind is still blown.
And finally an esports player showing emotion and being happy after each won map
This IEM messed up my sleep schedule because the energy of watching it all unfold was just too gripping
I've watched a lot of IEM's - this was the best one I can remember. Edge of your seat stuff, first TvT final ever, a Cinderella story, a winner's speech even Catz would be proud of, Oliviera in tears, Smix in tears, Kalaris in tears - an absolutely wonderful tournament from beginning to end. If you missed it - go and watch it, you won't regret it.
I also cried a little
It was so emotional
First one i wached live nearly entire - it was great.
Silly question, but wheres the best place to watch it? Outside of thermal and occasionally lowko, i dont know where to watch SC.
@@I_am_Romey here on yt, search ESL channel
Dude this guy is insane… I’m Korean and I loved watching Koreans win at tournaments. But when I saw Oliveira won, my jaw dropped… his builds are not something super new or anything but his micro ability… dang another level. Huge respect for this guy! If you see Maru got beaten 4:1 that says something.
Watching Reynor, HerO, and then finally Maru, visibly crushed once they came to the realisation how fucking determined and stone-cold this boy is, blew me away. Expecially Maru man, this dude almost never cracks, but you could see it sinking in and how he couldn't process exactly what just happened. Reynor was twitching like a muppet in an utter disbelief.. .
Poor HerO, he was beyond himself, shaking, bewildered, no idea how Time is pulling off such insane plays..
He is so humble, he enjoyed every victory in the tournament and of course his interview after Maru game was ...omg...
No, he is not. He is a funny guy, a positive guy but never a humble guy. I would rather choose the word 'ambitious'.
Part of what made it the best tournament for me was how he beat the best player in each race. He didn't get an easy run. He beat the best Zerg (arguably), then the best protoss and finally, the final boss, Maru. The Maru games were the most impressive for me, considering Maru is the best TvT player in history. I'm sure other people felt the same way after game 1, where it was a Maru stomp. After, I was like, "well, Olivera played really well, but it's kinda a letdown now." Then he just started crushing Maru, deflecting every push sent his way. Great games.
This was the craziest moment I have ever witnessed in star craft history. Oliveira came out of no where and decided he was going to beat not only Reynor and Hero but Maru in the grand finals! I’ve only just started watching Oliveira during the 2v2 with him and Serral. What an ending to IEM!
He is a legend! And the proud of Chinese StarCraft 2, we lost the server, but we got the champion!
I was there in Katowice! It was Wild, People Jumped from their seats when Oliveira won. It was crazy!
I've been a Time stan for like 3 years I felt so vindicated. He played so insane, such an incredible run.
You should definitely do some more, I caught his whole playoff run live and I've been so excited to see reactions from sc2 youtubers. What a performance
Would love to see you cover all his matches, or atleast one of each from the big 3
yes please !!! we want more epic comments of epic games
that drone pull against Hero Kreygasm
Must do! Second on that worker pull! how the hell did he realize that
ESL will for sure post them on their CZcams page
Maru : Who is TIME?
Oliveira : Hell, It's about TIME.
Watching him and Smix in the post game interview was something else. I'm so happy for him! What a run!!
i was hoping for a special episode. this tournament was out of this world, Oliveira has been one of my favourite Terrans for some TIME now. There's something magical about his playstyle, I'm so happy everything fell into place for him.
24:48 "hellbats roasting drones is just beautiful" uThermal 2023
xD
thank you for that video m8, it was so good to watch him won those games
Love the commentary! The context you provide for these series is why I'd rather watch this than the full game VOD.
Zombiegrub was going crazy, the original video is worth watching. The game was amazing, they should have a prize for the best game in the tournament and this game would win it. Reinor gave it all, full aggression, non-stop. It reminds me of the first Rocky movie, Oliviera simply waited through the aggression. his focus was almost inhuman.
15:47 "Now Reynor is once again coming in from the front-butt." ~uThermal 2023
Reynor was tearing his hair out in the end... he couldn't believe what just happened. Unbelievable matches. And then he beat Hero and Maru almost flawlessly... they couldn't believe it too.
The last move he pulled on Maru was so simple and yet deadly. Went down the ramp and then up again. When Maru moved there.
Yea, that juke was so dope!
That was not planned. The reason why he turned back was because he saw Maru's army had a pathing issue causing half of his tanks to be out of position, so he instantly jumped on it.
@@danielcheng769 Wow you are so cool. Nobody, Nobody, Nobody said it was Planned..... It was very nice juke and finishing blow in very nice game. Anything else?
If someone is wondering how Oliveira was able to pull this off, I have one secret to share with you guys.
The person Oliveira had as a practice partner for this tournament was someone little known dude called Joona Sotala, also known as Serral.
Before the World Championships, Oliveira was playing a 2v2 tournament with Serral as his partner and in another tournament earlier Serral had just suffered a crushing defeat against Maru.
I believe Serral wanted someone to practice TvZ with to crush Maru in the finals with and since he was already friends with Oliveira, he could practice with him, after all... Oliveira learning his new plays and strategies isn't that big of a deal, Serral could easily beat him as he did. It just turns out that it wasn't TvZ Serral needed to worry about and that it would be Oliveira that would get more out of those practice sessions.
thanks for doing this mate... like... really, thanks! I love having your videos in my suggestions despite me playing starcraft or watching starcraft content on and off for basically a decade now. There have been years I've never looked at sc, but your videos in the recent month/year are always a joy to watch. The way you present them, the insane skill level you have, it's just a premium combination. Thanks mate, thanks a lot.
Do the TvT against Maru! Being the terran expert you are would be a fascinating breakdown of game 5, it looked like the cleanest game ever
He beat top 4 players with EPT points at IEM Kato. Imo, he had the hardest matchups of anyone and still won. Insane
1 South Korea Terran Maru 3,965 - Finals
2 South Korea Protoss herO 3,950 - Semi Finals
3 France Terran Clem 3,945 - Group
4 Italy Zerg Reynor 3,124 - Quater finals
I enjoyed this a lot. Hearing from an ex pro just how hard some of these mechanics are. 10/10
Hey uThermal, just wanted to say that I really appreciate your content. Always look forward to your new videos! Thanks for the hard work.
His run was so fun to watch, for those who haven't seen the tournament I highly recommend watching the entire thing!
This was the first tournament I was able to watch from Day 1 all the way to the Grand Finals. 12 years later and Starcraft 2 is still an epic game with an amazing scene.
The end was so emotional, even Smix cried.
Oliviera changes because of his name to his idol Oliviera in UFC. He also want to make a strong comeback like him after he got 0-6 in Atlanta
It must have been the best comeback ever. Being an under dog, 2 sets down and match set, fighting the strongest zerg in the tournament. Even the best and most experienced players would have panicked, he just hold his ground and building the right counter units methodologically and almost flawless defence and micro.
I just love how dilligent he is. He always spreads his tanks, rebuilds turrets, pre splits, knows when to attack, when to retreat, doesn't overextend, knows when and what to build, etc. This man is a walking textbook.
UThermal: he seems to play the best style per matchup, so he's not really a player that either turtles against everything, or cheeses against everyone
me: mhm..
UThermal: y'know, normally you would say well why doesn't everyone do that, that's perfect that's ideal
me: uh huh
UThermal: but then, as you can know for example from my games... I'm a little bit better when I'm aggressive-
*me: TRUUUUUUU*
So kind of uthermal not to participate and let someone else win. Imagine the bongcloud into penguin brothers. Ez mind game victory
When I was watching this live, I had no idea it was really TIME. I thought it was some weird mafia match-fixing thing where they just took some nobody off the street to with the tournament and make a fortune betting on him.
I kept betting Oliveira through the tournament, 7.5 odds against Reynor, 4.5 against Hero and 7.0 against Maru. The bookies didn't learn after the first upset ^^
22:15, It's nice getting some aussie recognition, but... we don't call them shrimps, we call them prawns, and we don't put them on the barbie... Maybe try 'A snag on the barbie' lol.
Snag meaning sausage, though when someone says they're gonna get a snag or eat a snag, they mean the sausage placed diagonally on a piece of white bread, bonus points if it's from Bunnings.
Greetings from Brisvegas.
Man, Oliveira outplayed literally everyone he face, it was incredible to see. If you could go over a couple of his games against HeroMarine that would be awesome. To me Oliveira just had him on build order almost every game and I'd love to hear your insights on it.
Not to mention, in my opinion, Heromarine has the best TvT in Europe. Maru also didn't perform poor. Might have been not the best performance ever in the finals, but Oliviere just played insane that finals. No mistakes.
Couldn't agree more.
Tbf I think some people simply underestimate him. Like reynor for example went for moves expecting him to be a bit slower. The matches later in the tournament were well won though
He changed his name after Charles Oliveira, an underdog MMA fighter who went on to become champion recently, lots of similarities between their careers.
Sir. I see a big man with a big heart when I watch you. "Time" was the underdog NOBODY expected. You guys trained together in places like Korea, and he bought you lunch in exchange for your pro-tips. You helped him fulfill his dream, and this means so much more especially when Blizzard fucked all Chinese fans.
You take the planetary on your 4th to keep it safe. I take it because my macro is too bad to use up all the energy from my other orbitals.
Great stuff uThermal! When ZG was going nuts in game 2 with that mission impossible last push, it actually got me to betray my race and start rooting for this Terran. I was like most people though - great run, but you will get slaughtered next round. Love to see an analysis of those finals. After game 1 it looked like Maru was going to curb stomp Oliveira to the ground as hard as he did Ragnarok.
More of this please. I never feel lost when you are commentating.
awesome ! thanks for insights - i watched it lived and was very happy for him - and see someone win with showing passion n emotions - damn cool story - thanks for cover and support oliveira =) , greetings
Please do a follow up analysis of how he beat Her0 and then Maru. I could not understand how he countered their every move so hard
Could be cheating... Or he's just improved a lot and played near perfection at the perfect time. Time will tell, if Oliveria/Time keeps winning and playing at this level, then he is legit.
Oliveira reviewed on the matches on live stream yesterday. What he said was "I don't know how I did it."😂
@@blue-phoenix115 he said he felt like cheating, you know, like Flash. The most important thing is he said there’s no way he could lose as long as he played as usual, the mentality of a stronger player. You can see that in all his matches against the big 3, very patient.
Cheat in an offline tournament with cameras and staffs all around you! Show me how!
@@acmon8176 Someone said anal beads, different vibration tells.
As one of your Melbourne viewers I had a good chuckle at your shrimp on the barbie comment. I have only ever heard that expression used ironically, no one says it 😂
Muchas gracias! for your explanation, I was able to see his semi final against Hero and final against Maru live and was very impressed at how he make those monsters look like they were not playing right.
Thanks uThermal for the analysis, you might not know or notice this but ever since watching these analysis series I have been climbing in ranks. and it is also very entertaining as well.
man for me this was the best starcraft 2 world championship I've ever seen for sure
I haven't watched a tournament cast in quiet a long time... After watching this I will now head to watch and listen to his entire run! What a great story... I have been watching (and slightly playing) Starcraft for over a decade. Runs like this do not happen when you have such GIANTS in the field. Being rank 21 is AMAZING but, when you are playing against the best in the world where the skill gap from rank 15 to rank 3 is a big grandmaster and masters in ranked leagues (numbers I made up to give context) where you only have to win ONE game NOT a SERIES... It shows how remarkable his run really is... OR maybe a new TIME and challenger has risen to the god tier rank! I guess only TIME will tell...
I used to love watching H-to-the-Usky-Husky, and I really missed his SC2 content ... until uThermal. I would be very happy to see Thermie do more episodes like this one, since he really knows what makes for an epic match and can give us the understanding of WTH is going on when all s*** breaks loose and there's chaos all over the screen.
Your commentary is spot on. If you were to want to do this more in the future, i feel like most of us would like it too :)
I'm double commenting cos feck it. I'd recommend doing the whole series, especially game 2. You can see the point where Oliveira finds his groove, a switch just flipped. He lost that game to one baneling. Best almost comeback game I've seen in years.
This was epic, please bring us more of these!
Loved the Oliveira recap. If there are any other games of his from IEM Katowice that were this epic, I would love to watch you recap it, :) Thanks uThermal! Love your channel!
I've been craving this kind of commentary, I would love to see it in long form as well.
I was just gonna suggest you a series where you analyze those crazy games, give us some pro insight! You are the best, you know what we want! Please make a week of this content! Raynor, Hero, Maru.
I was pretty amazed to find out he was essentially coached by Innovation, the guy nicknamed the freebie smashed IEM, very cool to watch
That was absolutely nutty. Especially considering how close Reynor was to closing it out multiple times, before throwing Ultras and lings into the meat-grinder over and over. What a crazy tournament!
Oliveira's masterclass ! Was amazing to watch live while he pushed through the brackets ! This particular game though was probably the tipping point for him and most likely the match of the tournament.
Not gonna lie, I really wanted Maru to take that last Match, but was good to see Time getting over the line.
Honestly TvZ is my favorite matchup i only watch starcraft and barely play it myself but its so cinematic when the zerg swarm crashes into the tanklines it rly feels like a uphill battle especially for the terran but that changes once the zerg runs out and struggles to fight for extra bases (like u said on a 50/50 split the terran basicly wins if the zerg plays aggressive like that).
It seems to me as a viewer that if the zerg doesnt manage to completely run the terran over orbitals will basicly always ensure the terrans comeback as they just lift up during the attack and drop mules after.
That Widow Mine did well:
17:23
I wish Uthermal did all my sc2 casting.
14:53 casual 112 lings in the production tab
Definitely do more! You should also see if Oliveira will come on a do something silly for your channel. Everyone wants more of him and it would be fun to see him try Penguin brothers or mass ghosts.
Only three minutes in and his reaper micro is so entertaining, you forget that he has to be macroing at the same time.
What came to mind just now, is while watching the commentary live, how several of his Korean opponents mentioned that Oliveira is one of their regular training partners. Can't help but wonder if that is one of the contributing factors in him having the confidence on taking them down even though he was only rank 21 in EPT points and staying calm enough to beat Reynor after being behind 0:2 (I don't know how often they train together but they are on the same team).
Anecdote: this is the first time I've watched a "world championship" tournament, so glad I chose this one, only other tournament I bothered to watch was a DreamHack Valencia where there was a similar upset (I should watch them more often, maybe I'm the cause?), can't remember who it was but it was also a Terran who then got shut down hard by -Serral- in the end.
*Edit:* it was MarineLorD at DreamHack Open 2016, who originally thought he could go down to the beach on the last day after getting knocked out but instead 3:0ed in succession Bly, Stephano, Neeb, and Snute (who 3:0ed up-and-coming Reynor just before that) before ending in 0:4 against Nerchio. How time flies!
you know he is teaming with serral in chinese 2v2 tournament.
Back in days, he has to buy beers for innovation, TY, Byun and Dark for training. When he ask clem for practice, Clem said fuck off. No much pro do this for practice.
Because he is from China, KR players wanna prepare gsl with him now.
yea, I was a fanboy. Glad that he took the world champ. I have watched several downs in him. But He proved himself.
Probably the greatest underdog story in all esports
Love you thermy, your audio was a little echoey in this vid just so you know. I haven't noticed it before; i wonder if it's because the game sound was quieter than normal. Either way great commentary and I still watched it all the way through just to hear what you had to say.
I saw this match in Katowice. At some point Raynor has 40 supply advantage, more bases and resources in the bank. I was sure Oliveira is done. It is amazing how eficient Oliveira was. Not many terran players could win from this position. Amazing match. I think Reynor underestimated his opponent a little bit in this match.
seen itnlive, still a great analisis to watch without all these emotions :D reynor looked broken during this game, his mind set was devestated
Awesome underdog victory!
that was great. can you review more IEM matches?
I was hoping you would do a video like this!! This run was so awesome!! I would love more games from the run keep doing them!
More casting of Oliveira's games this tournament!!
I think everyone is down for more commentary on these matches, you pin point some technicalities that other caster sometimes wont. His matches against Reynor, Hero and Maru were insane.. about to go watch the earlier rounds.
Found the commentary/analysis really interesting!! Your speech patterns sound really similar to Lowko's, I guess I just like that Dutch accent!
I saw a video pop up for the grand final and was like “never heard of this guy”. Leenock also had an insane underdog tournament run through MLG one year. I think he went through the open bracket and won like 60 straight matches or something crazy?
This was great! I love the challenges too, but it's a lot of fun to hear your commentary when you don't have to multitask so much and you also know what's coming. Loved the commentary. IMHO IEM should offer you a spot as a commentator if they haven't already
Very informative and entertaining. Please make another one of these!
Easy to analyze after what, but... I believe Reynor did a very significant mistake, at the strategic level, in that game.
He took gas way too late in the midgame.
Look e.g. at 14:41 in your replay (and sooner), Reynor is happily filling a bank. 6609/1779 (sometimes ratio actually almost 1:1 cristal/gas)
That's not wrong in itself, if you can spend that money quickly, which he does. But of course, if you are spending, it's even better if you can spend on quality, and that will require more gas than cristal.
Yet, even during the 16:50 mark (in your replay), the observer camera goes through Reynor bases, you can see most of them are STILL laking the extractors! He will build them only a bit later.
Meanwhile, for all this time, Reynor was swimming in cristals he couldn't possibly spend on lings (I don't think so, probably not enough larva), but he was struggling building better units because of the lack of gas (then sticking in the 100+ region, basically zero).
Now Reynor game was still top tier quality. Definitely the kind you'd expect to completely smash any player below top 20, probably more than enough below top 10. And that is still the kind of game he would regularly play in the top 5, and be very likely to win.
I'm still very much impressed with both this game overall, AND Oliveira gameplay in particular.
But Reynor wasn't at all in the mindset of a "this is top5 level, I need to focus". Maybe that's how such a mistake could happen.
What do you think, was that indeed significant? Was that what cost the game to Reynor? And was mindset the main issue, or is it just that at some point, even the best of the best of the best can't think to everything?
thxs for making this video! i always love the under dog and he took it so well! said my dad said dont give up ! love it ! epic !
There's actually a small psychological advantage for loosing your first 2 games. You come to terms with loosing and it makes you relaxed, since in your mind you have already seen 'the worst that could happen'. So even as you make mistakes or things don't go smoothly, it doesn't distract you.
While for the other player it makes getting that final win harder, as they loose game three and game fore the pressure only builds and the moral drops more, while the moral for the comeback player lifts even higher.
It's not the end all be all, but it's a small factor
i still can't believe he won IEM 24 hours later, it was unreal :)
Re/ shrimp on the barbie 🦐
We Aussies actually call them prawns not shrimp but the Australian government made a tourist ad mostly for Americans back in the 80s with crocodile Dundee saying shrimp instead of prawn so they would understand it 🍤😂
Good to see a Terran top player dominate the pro scene against the odds. Usually, terran players are the outsider vs Zergs. As a Terran main, you feel a bit less doubting you chose to focus on the wrong race after watching that at pro level lol.
GG “TIME” (I also remember him as Time from couple of years ago, with Stats and so on… I feel he should have kept his original nickname, but hey, as he wish ofc)
0:21 “But someone else stole the show completely.”
Sounds familiar
I have a feeling they didn’t see him making it so they didn’t prepare or study his strategy as much. I think everyone was expecting Maru vs Reynor or herO.
It's always awesome to an underdog suprising everyone, well fought.
I would love more videos like this. I enjoy your analysis and comments.
Please do more on Oliveira matches in IEM. Love getting a professional view on these games.
The tank positioning in this game is so good that Time said himself also it was too good! (in a review he did later on)
The best thing, I have ever seen in StarCraft Esports
Uthermals Player card would be 100's across the board imo, iQ would at least be 200.
I believe it's okay to call him "TIME", since the guy still makes the signs with this nickname :)
StarCraft version of Marciano
Thank you Uthermal about talking about his success! You are the first one who is talking about it!
Excellent pick for a game to highlight and deconstruct. Would love more of this but, if I can be extra-greedy, also keep up with all the regular content!
Won some decent money betting on Oliveira, 7.5 odds vs Reynor (21.0 when he was down 0-2), 4.55 vs Hero and 7.0 vs Maru ^^
Good on Oliv, he did well!
It's prawns on the barbi lol