I watched this show for the first time a few months back, and I'll admit, when I was talking to my friend about it, I told him how Galadriel could have saved Middle Earth had she just accepted Sauron's offer and he responded with how easily I would be seduced by dark power 😂😂
He might because he had a sort of Christian theme going with Melkor and Sauron, Melkor was very much Lucifer rebelling against God (but when you look at it, what Melkor was doing wasn’t even all that evil, he was just rejecting Manwë’s rigid control) BUT, at the same time, Tolkien filled his stories with men who were unafraid to love both platonically and romantically, who hugged and touched and held their friends and showed affection without hesitation, because Tolkien was a veteran who saw far too little love and compassion between men and wanted a world where men COULD be compassionate, gentle, and affectionate without it being insulting to their masculinity. He made Melkor and Sauron either close, close friends or possibly lovers. I think he would at the very least understand that such sympathizers will exist. He wouldn’t LIKE them at all, because he was pretty rigidly Christian iirc, but he would understand that there’s bound to be SOME. Because he made sure that even the evildoers and villains of his story were still affectionate and loving to one another: he was aware there is a little light and dark in everyone.
@@d.v.3314 idk of any insinuation that the two were lovers… but he most definitely made them both to be satanlike. and sympathy to satan is not something anybody should ever be okay with.
@@Yehoshua66 SO first and foremost, God and Satan aren't any more real than Melkor and Sauron. Second, Melkor's tempting Sauron away from the Ainar is referred to as "The seduction of Mairon" and Sauron is referred to once in the texts as "most beloved Maiar of Melkor". When Melkor is facing down the enemy and about to die, Sauron tries to get him to run and hide with him, but Melkor refuses and instead tells Sauron to go alone. Sauron won't hear of it, so Melkor commands him, and then he begs. Finally, Sauron leaves; Melkor makes his last stand and is banished into the void for it. He cared enough for his underling to sacrifice himself for Sauron? I doubt that. His lover, or his best friend, on the other hand... Sauron then dedicates the rest of his time on Middle Earth not to creating a cult in his own name, but in MELKOR'S name. He perverts and corrupts the Numenoreans in Melkor's name, not his own. He creates a religion dedicated to Melkor to tell the Ainar, "Look; you took him, but I am still here, and I will make sure you can't erase him from history. I will make sure you never forget Melkor." Melkor created the dragons as fiery, golden, arrogant, cruel, spiteful monsters who hoard jewels. His second-in-command was a fire Maia with golden hair who was arrogant, cruel, and spiteful, with a love of fine things and gold. Sauron named his battering ram after Melkor's hammer. Come on. They were at LEAST best friends.
Lol, I really hope this is a joke. Making sauron a character who akin to a demi-god in this world into a fucking incel is just one more example of this pathetic shows dogshit writing
Tolkien represented him as a seducer in his books, congratulations to the screenwriter and actor because that was what was achieved during the series, people are rooting for him
(Re: “…rooting for him.”) However, Tolkien distinguished between good and evil much more succinctly. Certainly, Sauron was a seducer, manipulator, and liar; he was clearly the personification of Evil. Tolkien made that very clear. I think rather that society today has blurred distinctions between the two, and this is what the writing of ROP reflects. He’s become a more sympathetic character by the writers as today society has fallen into a trap of feeling sympathy for those who are and do evil. Sometimes, media, in its various forms, will explain it away with a sympathetic back story or satiric story line ( as in the tv series “Lucifer.”) As one who survived the Somme in the Great War, Tolkien saw Evil up close and personal and he saw what men could do who embraced Evil. Evil is Evil- and we would do well to remember that, especially as much of society can’t even identify the Decalogue anymore and has settled for a general, feel good, sort of spirituality. This is exactly the situation where Evil will fester and grow, a society where there are no longer moral absolutes, no definitive right and wrong. Look around. This is why crime is skyrocketing, our cities under siege by lawlessness, and innocent life is taken savagely. Evil abounds and we need to wake up to its wholly destructive force.
Yeah, many critics are saying that her rejection is what made him “go bad” but he is the great deceiver. If she accepts his proposal, he wins. Another puppet for him. If she denies him, he said fine. I’ll just take over anyway.
“Instead of a Dark Lord you would have a Queen! Not dark but beautiful, and terrible as the dawn! Treacherous as the sea! Stronger than the foundations of the Earth! All shall love me and despair!” - Galadriel, Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
She said it herself she would "Sauron light" Not dark, they will love her and despair, there is still something to love in her, Sauron is far more horrific to deal with, total evil
In some ways, it's a little disappointing that his betrayal was mostly against Galadriel, bc there is something powerful in the story where he and Celebrimbor have that deep connection and Sauron still tortures and kills him. Like, Sauron doesn't give a fucking shit about anything other than his perfect world that he's building
Yeah he was doing what he said he would, “give your opponent a means to master their fear so you can master them”. Galadriel was afraid that she would turn into the evil she was fighting, so he gave her the option to start fighting. It was a manipulation of course, but he was trying to play on her fear to control her.
Nah I think he wanted something more permanent. That would not have helped, believe me I know and I'm assuming you do to. But shit, being married to her. Mount Doom would be my first destination too.
@Jamail van Westering false. Saurons whole ideal for the world is efficiency and little waste. He's basically a central planner which is what a democrat would believe in. That's not small government nor is it constitutionalist
It was obvious he was Sauron, but man. It's kind of hard to think of him as Sauron while he looks like he could be Aragorn's brother or something. It just feels weird lol
They should have made them fall in love, and she ended up pregnant... And next season, she has a vision of her child being way worst than Sauron... So, she ends up killing her own child.
His beautiful form was as Annatar, lord of gifts, and he claimed to be sent from Valinor to aid the rulers of middle earth with the rings of power. He's implied as being fair and beautiful, and likely having silver hair, as it's a colour only elves can grow. Nothing against the actor of Halbrand but I hope Annatar is played by someone different if he's in the next season.
He failed not because Galadriel (as portrayed in Rings of Power) is intelligent - she isn't, her actions are based on emotions and she's basically a narcisistic psycopath - but because she already had a visceral hatred of him.
@@lyonard9226 Idk I feel like she saw through him here. Her comment 'save or rule' definitely sees to the heart of the issue -- sauron does want to "save" ME but he wants to do so by creating a perfect order where everyone who doesn't follow him to the letter dies.
She made no mistake, she is well aware that Sauron is one of the strongest maiar and she as an elf had no chanche to change him, but more likely the opposite she would have been corrupted slowly without even realising it. Sauron realises that she is not dumb to fall for it, so he tries one last desperate attempt (if not me then who) reminding Galadriel that after helping him there was no going back, the elves would cast her out, eventually fails again, Galadriel rages and tries to kill him
Sauron is the strongest maiar even said by Tolkien so much so he was stronger than some valar. According to Tolkien if sauron got his ring back he would not only threaten middle earth but valinor as well. 💪😎 Sauron was a better strategist than morgoth and he planned for ultimate victory.
Lol if anyone actually thinks he had any intentions of letting her make him "good" or that he actually cared for her at all, they don't know Sauron. If anything, he'd corrupt her and make her a tool for his overarching goal of continuing the work of his master.
People who say that “she could change him” they didnt even understand the point here. Sauron tries his best to manipulate and deceive Galadriel here. He wasnt there to be fixed. He wanted to rule all the time. Create a world with order.
Technically speaking, he was. Sauron's flaw is, and always has been, profound hubris. He's the last divine being in Middle Earth that isn't a shell of what they were, and he views himself as the only hope for salvation in a world the Valar have abandoned. But in the desire to repair the world he instead became obsessed with controlling it, making it "perfect."
Why do I see so many people assuming that SAURON, *the deceiver* is being genuine here? He’s bullshitting, 10000%. Galadriel made a lot of mistakes, refusing marriage to Sauron is not one of them.
You know what, at first I was like this is BS but then I actually got thinking about what would have happened if lol. F it, at this point the series is so off I'm sure they could have garnered more fans if they DID go with a Halbrand and Galadriel story.
Sauron isn't called the Deciever for nothing. He's been spiraling down a dark path long before their paths crossed. There isn't good left in him. He's only continuing the work he's always wanted, which is dominion of all Middle Earth. After his body was destroyed in Numenor, the only physical form he's been able to take on was of an scorched, burning man-like being, wreathed in flame. Evil changes the appearence of the spirits of Middle Earth. Same thing happened to Morgoth after his descend.
Then why he is not fucking deceiving and all the time telling truths and just testing the waters if he can get her as an ally why is this so called máster deceiver never even trying, is he deceiving reality itself or something? He could have easely turned evil because of galadriel as all these maiar or whatever can easily forget their past lives as the stranger did, he was almost fooled into thinking he was an evil beign, fact is you suck so much tolkien cock that you lose common sense
@@onlygamesthatdeserverecord sometimes the best place to hide is in plain sight, which he uses as the same approach to his past. I like the psychology behind his intentions, even though it's way off of his original lore travels.
So glad I found a sane comment. I don't mind the shipping, it works in an angsty way like him not seeing her the way she sees him (non-canonically of course). But all this blaming of Galadriel and the iron-clad conviction that he turned dark because she rejected him... it annoys me how so many missed the unspoken plot point when he said "I would make you A queen" and she replied with "and you, MY king". And he did not correct her. Because that's exactly the nature of their relationship, which Galadriel finally perceived - he would make her think she could rule by his side, but actually he would lord over her the way Morgoth ruled above him. The show has many faults, but this scene is one of its better moments. making Sauron charming, relatable, reliable, down-to-earth yet elusive, mysterious, vague and hard to interpret fits so well with the image that his book counterpart conjures up in the imagination.
Guys you forget one thing "there is only one lord of the ring and he does not share power" and sauron is sort of the devil he finds out what you want and uses it corrupt you, he would eventually kill her after she outlived her purpose, this Sauron kids he has no friends only one master and he doesnt give a shit
As much as I ship them, it just wouldn't work you know. They'll both just become tyrants and her spirit will be cast into the void along with his in the end.
If she was really about saving middle earth, She'd marry Sauron. Lol A lot of Royalty had to marry for political reasons. But nooooo and Frodo gotta do all the work now 🙄 lol
i can't tell if u actually think that, but I've seen this comment seemingly honestly a couple times and it just doesn't track. He's pulling the same BS that the ring does -- convincing people that if they use the power, they'll be able to do good things. But instead they just become his tools. When he says he wants to save the world, picture Mordor. That is what a 'saved' ME looks like to Sauron, because he prioritizes perfect order
@@Kanig94 no it is a lie. He used morgoths power to enhance his own. He loves order and perfection through domination. While morgoth just wanted to destroy all.
@@Kanig94 yes he will forever be a servant because morgoth is alive but faaaarrrr away. Sauron used morgoth for his own goal. The other valar would never liked his plans.
Sauron was only this sweet because he did not have her yet. The moment she married him he would uave corrupted her, and after satisfying his infatuation he would have gone back to his old ways, and beaten her into submission. It is wrong to think any woman (even an elf) can change another creature"s true nature.
"By refusing sauron and world peace" ...my guy... Sauron's whole thing is that he is the DECIEVER, lf you truly believe he'd bring world peace you are as smart as a boiled egg
It’s really disrespectful you consider this abomination “good”, no way on earth galadriel and Sauron from the books, were almost in terms to be a couple 🤮
This is so much different than the actual lore so who knows, what if she could have binded him to her light, she couldve been the one to bring him back to the valar
Keep in mind Sauron damages your very sense of self. The fact she's in such proximity to him and denies it shows tremendous fortitude. Few deny him, ever.
I think that's on brand, canonically. She's always kinda wanted power - it's why she felt like the way to Valinor was shut for her. I think it's also on brand though for her to see through his bs, which she did. Honestly, while the characterization of Galadriel overall in this show is horrendous, I actually thought this sequence went ok
Ah yes, world peace. Because as we all know, Sauron is the most understanding and selfless being in existence... We're still talking about the literal Dark Lord, right? Also pretty sure "being at his side" would mostly ensure HER safety, and if it wasn't clear by now, Galadriel is kind of fighting to save the world so... yeah, her accepting his offer wouldn't make any sense.
Sauron was one of Mayar! Gladriel is an Elf, an Eldar of Noldor! how tf they are going to mate?! And in The Silmarillion, you read that she Fell in love with Celeborn before even Morgoth started his great wars on Middle Earth!! where the hell is Celeborn??
"Fair as the sea and the sun... Stronger than the foundations of the Earth..." Does anyone think he was changed? He gives up after this and travels to Mordor. Was it his last chance? Or was it going to be horrible anyway?
"No, not dark, not with you at my side" 🤮 as if it's her job to save him from himself, and her responsibility to shield everyone else from his destruction. As if they have some special connection and she alone has this power to tame him. As if her whole purpose, he fate, is to be tied to him and his darkness and sacrificially serve as a buffer between the evil he plans and the potential he could have. Allllll the fake promises that would never come to pass, he would simply dine on her soul one bite at a time for eternity, until she was as twisted and disfigured as the orcs. Real ppl do this. They degrade you into an object by convincing you that you are their own talisman against evil. That you serve a glorious purpose... and then in time prove to you how worthless you are because your magic no longer works. You don't 'save them' or 'stop them' from their shitty ways. They twist it back on you, blaming you for their own evil, because if you were fulfilling your purpose of protecting them from themselves, they wouldn't do these evil things. What an evil dirtbag.
@TheBlur Oh I fully agree sir, and I have entirely boycotted this drivel show. I guess I was just drawing a parallel to real world machavellian abusers and the snippet, assuming it as a stand alone with no relation to middle earth (because no, obviously).
@TheBlur idk about that... You're not the first person to claim that about Sauron as I've come across a lot of people that say the same thing, but I have to disagree. Please reread the Akallabêth, it's in the Silmarillion. In the Akallabêth, Sauron takes a nice, peaceful and orderly Numenor and plunges it into chaotic darkness both metaphorically and literally. They even founded a Melkor worshipping cult that called for regular human sacrifices right after Sauron ordered them to blot out the sun with black smoke.
@@LeroyandMargyHill lol, unfortunately it is. I spent 12 years in an abusive marriage, finally got a restraining order and am going through the divorce process now. It's sucks, hurts a lot, but way better than the abuse.
I hope that she thinks about it hard in the second season, like maybe even deciding to go for it until some tragic/horrible event happens, give some depth to the scene in the movies where she’s offered the ring of power
I do wonder if that's what they're trying to do. Her having a direct hand in the forging of the rings does duffer from the lore, but contextualizes her somewhat strange remark in the movies.
@@SpyTrader1988 It's not at all clear that he was ever being sincere. He may have backed out because he thought he might fool Eonwe but he knew he'd never fool Tulkas.
Now I know why Galadriel hatefully banished Sauron when he went to retrieve Gandalf during the battle of the five armies…..She was really pissed of at Sauron because she knew him very well.
Meanwhile, somewhere in Eriador, Celeborn is busy cleaning their house and doing farming, archery, poetry, and other stuff to pass the time... while waiting for his wifey to come home in a few hundred years or so
Galadriel: "and you, my King... the Dark Lord?" Sauron: "No, not Dark. Not with you at my side." Celebrimbor somewhere in the background: "I am the Bright Lord!!!"
@@ashharhasan3120 No, he would have wanted to keep her around to keep the other elves in line. That was the whole point of the Rings of Power, he could use them to control the most powerful elves and rule the other elves through them.
He got rejected for Proposing without a Ring 💍 😂
10 points
Are you happy now.?
He was trying to forge it but she wanted to go to war NOW lol
Yeah , he should have brought atleast one ring
Best comment ever!
Oh, look how the audience got corrupted by Sauron so easily.
Can you bleam them?? He is beautiful 🤩❤️
@@hanatirk4375 men (and women apparently) are easily corrupted
Hahaha! All of the things that transpired in LOTR could have been prevented if Galadriel, wasn't Galadriel. Her fault.
TF did they expect putting him with such an unlikeable character?
I watched this show for the first time a few months back, and I'll admit, when I was talking to my friend about it, I told him how Galadriel could have saved Middle Earth had she just accepted Sauron's offer and he responded with how easily I would be seduced by dark power 😂😂
One of them is full of anger and the other one is Sauron.
One of them is evil the other is Sauron
Yeah wokeness and extreme leftism always makes less room for creativity and logic
One of them is thinking good logically to safe the world and the other one is called Galdriel
😂
@@orangecitrus8056touch grass
»Sauron, you're breaking my heart. You're going down a path I can't follow!« 😭
Sauron: Because of Celeborn?
Damn guys Anakin is kinda sauron
@@danielmedjedovic7068 No because of what you’ve done!
Hahahaha NICE!
Where can I watch this? Anyone help please 🙏
Did this guy just pull a "you can fix me" on her? 😂
🤦♂️😂
He sure did 😂
Don't forget that his real super power before the Rings is as the Great Deciever.
HaHa 😂😂
😂😂 He did
I have a feeling Tolkien would find the amount of Sauron’s sympathizers to be very troubling 🤣
He might because he had a sort of Christian theme going with Melkor and Sauron, Melkor was very much Lucifer rebelling against God (but when you look at it, what Melkor was doing wasn’t even all that evil, he was just rejecting Manwë’s rigid control)
BUT, at the same time, Tolkien filled his stories with men who were unafraid to love both platonically and romantically, who hugged and touched and held their friends and showed affection without hesitation, because Tolkien was a veteran who saw far too little love and compassion between men and wanted a world where men COULD be compassionate, gentle, and affectionate without it being insulting to their masculinity. He made Melkor and Sauron either close, close friends or possibly lovers. I think he would at the very least understand that such sympathizers will exist. He wouldn’t LIKE them at all, because he was pretty rigidly Christian iirc, but he would understand that there’s bound to be SOME. Because he made sure that even the evildoers and villains of his story were still affectionate and loving to one another: he was aware there is a little light and dark in everyone.
@@d.v.3314 idk of any insinuation that the two were lovers… but he most definitely made them both to be satanlike. and sympathy to satan is not something anybody should ever be okay with.
@@Yehoshua66 Lmao oh so you're Christian. Yikes
@@Yehoshua66 SO first and foremost, God and Satan aren't any more real than Melkor and Sauron.
Second, Melkor's tempting Sauron away from the Ainar is referred to as "The seduction of Mairon" and Sauron is referred to once in the texts as "most beloved Maiar of Melkor". When Melkor is facing down the enemy and about to die, Sauron tries to get him to run and hide with him, but Melkor refuses and instead tells Sauron to go alone. Sauron won't hear of it, so Melkor commands him, and then he begs. Finally, Sauron leaves; Melkor makes his last stand and is banished into the void for it. He cared enough for his underling to sacrifice himself for Sauron? I doubt that. His lover, or his best friend, on the other hand...
Sauron then dedicates the rest of his time on Middle Earth not to creating a cult in his own name, but in MELKOR'S name. He perverts and corrupts the Numenoreans in Melkor's name, not his own. He creates a religion dedicated to Melkor to tell the Ainar, "Look; you took him, but I am still here, and I will make sure you can't erase him from history. I will make sure you never forget Melkor."
Melkor created the dragons as fiery, golden, arrogant, cruel, spiteful monsters who hoard jewels. His second-in-command was a fire Maia with golden hair who was arrogant, cruel, and spiteful, with a love of fine things and gold.
Sauron named his battering ram after Melkor's hammer.
Come on. They were at LEAST best friends.
@@d.v.3314 God help you
So many people saying "Oh, she could have changed him, there would have been peace"... That's why there are so many toxic relationships out there.
She would be the abuser
🤣 😂 🤣 😂
Lol, I really hope this is a joke. Making sauron a character who akin to a demi-god in this world into a fucking incel is just one more example of this pathetic shows dogshit writing
@@bobafett9348 😂😂😂
Ore just say ok sure and then stab him in the back
Tolkien represented him as a seducer in his books, congratulations to the screenwriter and actor because that was what was achieved during the series, people are rooting for him
(Re: “…rooting for him.”) However, Tolkien distinguished between good and evil much more succinctly. Certainly, Sauron was a seducer, manipulator, and liar; he was clearly the personification of Evil. Tolkien made that very clear. I think rather that society today has blurred distinctions between the two, and this is what the writing of ROP reflects. He’s become a more sympathetic character by the writers as today society has fallen into a trap of feeling sympathy for those who are and do evil. Sometimes, media, in its various forms, will explain it away with a sympathetic back story or satiric story line ( as in the tv series “Lucifer.”) As one who survived the Somme in the Great War, Tolkien saw Evil up close and personal and he saw what men could do who embraced Evil. Evil is Evil- and we would do well to remember that, especially as much of society can’t even identify the Decalogue anymore and has settled for a general, feel good, sort of spirituality. This is exactly the situation where Evil will fester and grow, a society where there are no longer moral absolutes, no definitive right and wrong. Look around. This is why crime is skyrocketing, our cities under siege by lawlessness, and innocent life is taken savagely. Evil abounds and we need to wake up to its wholly destructive force.
People are watching this shit show unironically?
...I did a poo....over there...*indicates general direction* 👉
only game of thrones has screwriters...
Yeah, many critics are saying that her rejection is what made him “go bad” but he is the great deceiver. If she accepts his proposal, he wins. Another puppet for him. If she denies him, he said fine. I’ll just take over anyway.
My boy Sauron was trying to smash Galadriel!
He's thinking ' yeah I love myself a piece of hot young elven filley'
He’s trying to manipulate her into killing all those who oppose him
@@eldergod4809young? She’s thousands of years old
@@NateRybneridk man she acts like a middle schooler in this show
Let's be honest who wouldn't
Ngl that shot of Sauron and Galadriel in the waters reflection with saurons true form and the sun behind them looked pretty dope
“Instead of a Dark Lord you would have a Queen! Not dark but beautiful, and terrible as the dawn! Treacherous as the sea! Stronger than the foundations of the Earth! All shall love me and despair!”
- Galadriel, Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
This honestly terrified me. Sourced say that Galadriel turn evil, she'd be worse than Sauron himself.
The real galadriel. Not this fanfiction fail version
She said it herself she would "Sauron light"
Not dark, they will love her and despair, there is still something to love in her, Sauron is far more horrific to deal with, total evil
Sauron never wanted a partner. He just tried to gain her trust. Stop romanticising him and putting him in relationships.
In some ways, it's a little disappointing that his betrayal was mostly against Galadriel, bc there is something powerful in the story where he and Celebrimbor have that deep connection and Sauron still tortures and kills him. Like, Sauron doesn't give a fucking shit about anything other than his perfect world that he's building
Smart move from Sauron suggesting she could change him from evil to good, tapping into the archetypal beauty and the beast woman fantasy😮
Yeah he was doing what he said he would, “give your opponent a means to master their fear so you can master them”. Galadriel was afraid that she would turn into the evil she was fighting, so he gave her the option to start fighting. It was a manipulation of course, but he was trying to play on her fear to control her.
The thing is, she actually can do it, but she refuse and prefer war.
@@josuearce8148 wow
Most women would of fallen for that
Sauron is a deceiver
I thought he was gonna say "No, not dark, but beautiful as the morning and the night"
Hahaha same
Nah, that's too complex for hbo apparently
@@sarbo2335 Amazon
Why would a man call himself beautiful, what he said was better.
@@freestyle1227 you never watched Lord of the rings "The fellowship of the ring" did you?
Tolkien: Sauron, Lord of Balance corrupted by Morgoth
RoP: He didn't get laid, loool
Not balance, Order, order at the expense of all else. Rigid, malicious control.
Nah I think he wanted something more permanent. That would not have helped, believe me I know and I'm assuming you do to.
But shit, being married to her. Mount Doom would be my first destination too.
@@seekingabsolution1907 sauron is a Democrat lol
@@savagetv6460 nah a Republican
@Jamail van Westering false. Saurons whole ideal for the world is efficiency and little waste. He's basically a central planner which is what a democrat would believe in. That's not small government nor is it constitutionalist
"you're tearing me apart lisa"
😂😂😂 oh hey Sauron
I did not hit her its BS I didnt hit her I did not. Oh hi Elrond!
LMAO funniest thing i’ve read!
It was obvious he was Sauron, but man. It's kind of hard to think of him as Sauron while he looks like he could be Aragorn's brother or something. It just feels weird lol
They should have made them fall in love, and she ended up pregnant... And next season, she has a vision of her child being way worst than Sauron... So, she ends up killing her own child.
@@timbatee7433 dark imagination...
That is the point
Wow dark much man,this is a family friendly show not House Of The Dragon.
@@zwelethumahlalela8685
they were trying to imiatate HoD what are you talking about...
Dude is INCREDIBLY handsome, bordering on Beautiful almost🔥🔥
For sometime Sauron adopted a beautiful form, before he turned in the Dark Lord.
Yeah. I'd never heard of him before this show but now, he's my latest celebrity crush.
@@s_shaleh IKR! He is scrumptious 🙈🙈🙈🙈
@@saikatroy4 🤭🤭
His beautiful form was as Annatar, lord of gifts, and he claimed to be sent from Valinor to aid the rulers of middle earth with the rings of power. He's implied as being fair and beautiful, and likely having silver hair, as it's a colour only elves can grow. Nothing against the actor of Halbrand but I hope Annatar is played by someone different if he's in the next season.
Galadriel: "The dark lord?"
Sauron: "No, not dark"
Celebrimbor, the Bright Lord: "You will serve the Bright Lord now!"
Sauron: "...."
Christian Bale: "Did anyone say The Dark Knight?" 😎
"I AM THE TRUE LORD OF THE RINGS!"
@@odd-eyes6363
*”Come and die, THIEF.”*
That just reminded me of how insanely powerful Celebrimbor was in Shadow of Mordor
😄
Here in this scene you can see truly Sauron in nature, in lore he is shown as a liar and a deciever.
Thank god she is powerful and NOT stupid. He tried to manipulate her... And failed 😂
He failed not because Galadriel (as portrayed in Rings of Power) is intelligent - she isn't, her actions are based on emotions and she's basically a narcisistic psycopath - but because she already had a visceral hatred of him.
@@lyonard9226 Idk I feel like she saw through him here. Her comment 'save or rule' definitely sees to the heart of the issue -- sauron does want to "save" ME but he wants to do so by creating a perfect order where everyone who doesn't follow him to the letter dies.
Charlie Vickers played this part as sauron perfectly!
She made no mistake, she is well aware that Sauron is one of the strongest maiar and she as an elf had no chanche to change him, but more likely the opposite she would have been corrupted slowly without even realising it. Sauron realises that she is not dumb to fall for it, so he tries one last desperate attempt (if not me then who) reminding Galadriel that after helping him there was no going back, the elves would cast her out, eventually fails again, Galadriel rages and tries to kill him
Sauron is the strongest maiar even said by Tolkien so much so he was stronger than some valar. According to Tolkien if sauron got his ring back he would not only threaten middle earth but valinor as well. 💪😎 Sauron was a better strategist than morgoth and he planned for ultimate victory.
Lol if anyone actually thinks he had any intentions of letting her make him "good" or that he actually cared for her at all, they don't know Sauron. If anything, he'd corrupt her and make her a tool for his overarching goal of continuing the work of his master.
Show finally gave us someone to root for
It's cancellation?
People who say that “she could change him” they didnt even understand the point here. Sauron tries his best to manipulate and deceive Galadriel here. He wasnt there to be fixed. He wanted to rule all the time. Create a world with order.
I think it's safe to say Sauron did not handle the rejection very well
Imagine if he was actually being sincere.
No, he was deceiving her very cleverly.
Technically speaking, he was. Sauron's flaw is, and always has been, profound hubris. He's the last divine being in Middle Earth that isn't a shell of what they were, and he views himself as the only hope for salvation in a world the Valar have abandoned. But in the desire to repair the world he instead became obsessed with controlling it, making it "perfect."
@@alexspain9103tell that to the numenoreans😂
In a creapy way, that's so cute 💕
You will serve the bright lord now😏
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Why do I see so many people assuming that SAURON, *the deceiver* is being genuine here? He’s bullshitting, 10000%. Galadriel made a lot of mistakes, refusing marriage to Sauron is not one of them.
I like the simplicity of sauron , he knows where power resides , looks of a begger but powerful than all elves and humans together
They should've went harder with the soap opera stuff. Hal and Galadriel shacking up in Eriador for a season would be hilarious.
You know what, at first I was like this is BS but then I actually got thinking about what would have happened if lol. F it, at this point the series is so off I'm sure they could have garnered more fans if they DID go with a Halbrand and Galadriel story.
They'd definitely have a larger audience.😂
Her: Sorry i have a boyfriend
Husband and kid.
@@TurinTuramber but the show is claiming Celeborn is dead 😭😭😭
@@z4kry44lol what?! He appears in original trilogy and they claim he's dead???
@@justpoet1 That’s why the prime video lotr is absolute trash. But that’s not the only reason. The show twists a lot of other parts of the story
@@z4kry44 MIA in war, not dead. She presumes he's dead but according to elven law she cannot remarry because elves only mate once, as much as I know.
He’s a lying manipulative beast she didn’t make no mistake refusing him
Take it easy. It's only a TV show.
@@brunokubin when someone’s bashing sauron we’re like “whoa woa that’s its a show take it easy”
@@brunokubin when someone’s bashing sauron we’re like “whoa woa its a show take it easy”
imagine she accepted this offer lol I would say LOTR and this series are not related.
@@akderekx "whoa woa" lmao. What on Earth are you on about?
Why did they zoom in so hard. I feel like I’m FaceTiming my uncles overseas
Sauron isn't called the Deciever for nothing. He's been spiraling down a dark path long before their paths crossed. There isn't good left in him. He's only continuing the work he's always wanted, which is dominion of all Middle Earth.
After his body was destroyed in Numenor, the only physical form he's been able to take on was of an scorched, burning man-like being, wreathed in flame. Evil changes the appearence of the spirits of Middle Earth. Same thing happened to Morgoth after his descend.
Then why he is not fucking deceiving and all the time telling truths and just testing the waters if he can get her as an ally why is this so called máster deceiver never even trying, is he deceiving reality itself or something? He could have easely turned evil because of galadriel as all these maiar or whatever can easily forget their past lives as the stranger did, he was almost fooled into thinking he was an evil beign, fact is you suck so much tolkien cock that you lose common sense
@@onlygamesthatdeserverecord sometimes the best place to hide is in plain sight, which he uses as the same approach to his past.
I like the psychology behind his intentions, even though it's way off of his original lore travels.
So glad I found a sane comment. I don't mind the shipping, it works in an angsty way like him not seeing her the way she sees him (non-canonically of course). But all this blaming of Galadriel and the iron-clad conviction that he turned dark because she rejected him... it annoys me how so many missed the unspoken plot point when he said "I would make you A queen" and she replied with "and you, MY king". And he did not correct her. Because that's exactly the nature of their relationship, which Galadriel finally perceived - he would make her think she could rule by his side, but actually he would lord over her the way Morgoth ruled above him. The show has many faults, but this scene is one of its better moments. making Sauron charming, relatable, reliable, down-to-earth yet elusive, mysterious, vague and hard to interpret fits so well with the image that his book counterpart conjures up in the imagination.
Sauron has the power to make chicks go crazy and for that i will watch the show.
He's very compelling and charming 😂
Sauron the pickup artist.
Guys you forget one thing "there is only one lord of the ring and he does not share power" and sauron is sort of the devil he finds out what you want and uses it corrupt you, he would eventually kill her after she outlived her purpose, this Sauron kids he has no friends only one master and he doesnt give a shit
As much as I ship them, it just wouldn't work you know. They'll both just become tyrants and her spirit will be cast into the void along with his in the end.
They probably would have won together
@@henryvirtum1520 nope. There are other elves who are way more powerful than Galadriel. The good will still prevail in the end
Yep. Try as Sauron and others might, there's simply no competing against Eru Illuvatar, the One Above All, who is on the side of the Free Peoples.
@@flynnrider4354 that ring she uses beefs her up to great heights of power and with Sauron even higher heights
@@ladygrey7425 unless in that timeline eru wanted galadriel to join sauron for a better outcome ultimately in his divine plan
If she was really about saving middle earth, She'd marry Sauron. Lol A lot of Royalty had to marry for political reasons. But nooooo and Frodo gotta do all the work now 🙄 lol
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I agree with you 💯💯💯💯
i can't tell if u actually think that, but I've seen this comment seemingly honestly a couple times and it just doesn't track. He's pulling the same BS that the ring does -- convincing people that if they use the power, they'll be able to do good things. But instead they just become his tools. When he says he wants to save the world, picture Mordor. That is what a 'saved' ME looks like to Sauron, because he prioritizes perfect order
Sauron is very deterministic and a tyrant. His evil is not only morgoths corruption but his choice. He used morgoth...
Did he? I don't know much lore but was is true when he said he felt free when Morgoth was defeated? He is still a servant of Morgoth right? He lies.
I don't think so ? He was corrupted by morgoth , he was his first lieutenant, his right hand , he never used morgoth, he served him.
@@Kanig94 no it is a lie. He used morgoths power to enhance his own. He loves order and perfection through domination. While morgoth just wanted to destroy all.
After morgoths demise he still sacrificed people in a special temple to morgoth
@@Kanig94 yes he will forever be a servant because morgoth is alive but faaaarrrr away. Sauron used morgoth for his own goal. The other valar would never liked his plans.
Sauron was only this sweet because he did not have her yet. The moment she married him he would uave corrupted her, and after satisfying his infatuation he would have gone back to his old ways, and beaten her into submission. It is wrong to think any woman (even an elf) can change another creature"s true nature.
Except she's already married to Celeborn for a long time at this point. The show ignores that though.
"By refusing sauron and world peace"
...my guy... Sauron's whole thing is that he is the DECIEVER, lf you truly believe he'd bring world peace you are as smart as a boiled egg
Mairon,Sauron,Anattar and many other names.He was even more cunning than Melkor ever was.
Well there would have been peace after he would have destroyed everything lol
@@kaletovhangarMelkor is no joke
She made the best decision. It was another elusive temptation for Sauron's dark world of course. He knew that she was one if his greatest advisories.
Lmao in the show she's more evil than Sauron.
@@bobafett9348 how so?
The best episode. This was the one I waited for.
Sauron has a crush uwu
😂
@@sallmandar1027 lolllll
It’s really disrespectful you consider this abomination “good”, no way on earth galadriel and Sauron from the books, were almost in terms to be a couple 🤮
Sauron manipulates literally everyone...why would he care if Galadriel said no to him?
I don't think he does. He was just stalling her. He got what he wanted in the end.
Sauron lied, he would have used her
This is so much different than the actual lore so who knows, what if she could have binded him to her light, she couldve been the one to bring him back to the valar
@@benjaminZ20 if he is a master of deceit he not only wants her to doubt herself and her whole world but to feel guilty also
@@benjaminZ20 - Sauron would have used her ambition, arrogance and aggression against her. If anything, she would have become his greatest weapon.
There can be only one Lord of the Rings, only one who can bend them to his will. And he does not share power
only to bust
Keep in mind Sauron damages your very sense of self. The fact she's in such proximity to him and denies it shows tremendous fortitude.
Few deny him, ever.
God damn those blue eyes are so beautiful
you’re talking about Sauron right?
When he said "I alone can see your light" you can tell she almost said yes
I think that's on brand, canonically. She's always kinda wanted power - it's why she felt like the way to Valinor was shut for her. I think it's also on brand though for her to see through his bs, which she did.
Honestly, while the characterization of Galadriel overall in this show is horrendous, I actually thought this sequence went ok
She’s got some explaining to when/if they follow the lore and eventually bring her husband Celeborn into this story
I want to see this movie, Galadriel as Queen of Darkness
She’s already an evil tyrant. No thanks. We ride with Sauron.
I'd say Yes daddy!
Men always traps women in that fantasy that oh you can change me. Go change yourself first before proposing. Galadriel is smart not to follow
Ah yes, world peace. Because as we all know, Sauron is the most understanding and selfless being in existence... We're still talking about the literal Dark Lord, right? Also pretty sure "being at his side" would mostly ensure HER safety, and if it wasn't clear by now, Galadriel is kind of fighting to save the world so... yeah, her accepting his offer wouldn't make any sense.
Sauron was one of Mayar! Gladriel is an Elf, an Eldar of Noldor! how tf they are going to mate?! And in The Silmarillion, you read that she Fell in love with Celeborn before even Morgoth started his great wars on Middle Earth!! where the hell is Celeborn??
The elven king Thingol and the maiar Melian, parents of Luthein
So technically speaking, its possible 🤷♀️
She would of never been his wife or queen its sauron ffs the deciver he wanting to use her she would be his willing servant
All Galadriel wanted was to be proposed with the one ring, but of course Sauron did not want to share it.
"Fair as the sea and the sun...
Stronger than the foundations of the Earth..."
Does anyone think he was changed? He gives up after this and travels to Mordor. Was it his last chance? Or was it going to be horrible anyway?
I mean we know what happens, but damn this would have been so very interesting to watch...🧐
"No, not dark, not with you at my side" 🤮 as if it's her job to save him from himself, and her responsibility to shield everyone else from his destruction.
As if they have some special connection and she alone has this power to tame him.
As if her whole purpose, he fate, is to be tied to him and his darkness and sacrificially serve as a buffer between the evil he plans and the potential he could have.
Allllll the fake promises that would never come to pass, he would simply dine on her soul one bite at a time for eternity, until she was as twisted and disfigured as the orcs.
Real ppl do this. They degrade you into an object by convincing you that you are their own talisman against evil. That you serve a glorious purpose... and then in time prove to you how worthless you are because your magic no longer works. You don't 'save them' or 'stop them' from their shitty ways. They twist it back on you, blaming you for their own evil, because if you were fulfilling your purpose of protecting them from themselves, they wouldn't do these evil things. What an evil dirtbag.
That is an excellent summary of this scene.
@TheBlur Oh I fully agree sir, and I have entirely boycotted this drivel show. I guess I was just drawing a parallel to real world machavellian abusers and the snippet, assuming it as a stand alone with no relation to middle earth (because no, obviously).
@TheBlur idk about that... You're not the first person to claim that about Sauron as I've come across a lot of people that say the same thing, but I have to disagree. Please reread the Akallabêth, it's in the Silmarillion. In the Akallabêth, Sauron takes a nice, peaceful and orderly Numenor and plunges it into chaotic darkness both metaphorically and literally. They even founded a Melkor worshipping cult that called for regular human sacrifices right after Sauron ordered them to blot out the sun with black smoke.
I hope this isn’t from experience, but suspect it is. The person you described is like their father the Lord of the flies.
@@LeroyandMargyHill lol, unfortunately it is. I spent 12 years in an abusive marriage, finally got a restraining order and am going through the divorce process now. It's sucks, hurts a lot, but way better than the abuse.
I knew it, all sorrow in middle earth started from this heartache
Yea,,,, women will do that. _ Can't ya see, what that woman, been doin' ta me.
She is so beautiful.
Most of the people would say that. Because they seldom posses eyesight as keen as Galadriel, metaphorically speaking.
Agreed. You are still about to get hate though
galadriel screwed up. she should have ambushed him first then asked the stupid question
Beautiful swedish actress!😍
I hope that she thinks about it hard in the second season, like maybe even deciding to go for it until some tragic/horrible event happens, give some depth to the scene in the movies where she’s offered the ring of power
I do wonder if that's what they're trying to do. Her having a direct hand in the forging of the rings does duffer from the lore, but contextualizes her somewhat strange remark in the movies.
Peace at what cost the benefit of the aggressor? No thank you
She did the right thing Evil has to be destroyed at all levels.
She is the most expressionless actress.
Botox
If only Amazon had put strong magnets on Tolkiens body and wrapped his coffin in copper wire they could have solved the world's power crisis
“All of us look down on you with doubt”
Wow how true that statement would become lol
the show runners really said they’re gonna make sauron a “walter white” type of character
Be awkward when Sauron has to massacre women and children.
the show runners also said: "goo goo gaga we are gay and don't write no good"
"I alone can see your greatness."
Damn, he's gotta be a really nice guy. He's the only person who tries to like her.
“Not dark. Not with you at my side”. She refused the only chance to turn him good and peace in the realm.
Not really. He would have corrupted and/or enslaved her.
Sauron did try to redeem himself once after the defeat of Melkor. But he was ashamed to go back to Valinor and faced punishment and stayed in Arda
Textbook Gaslighting
@@SpyTrader1988 It's not at all clear that he was ever being sincere. He may have backed out because he thought he might fool Eonwe but he knew he'd never fool Tulkas.
If you like it you should've put a ring on it. 💍
She’s is absolutely insufferable! “soy-Sauron” was the silliest character.
Galadriel: You would make a tyrant.
INFJ: No, but yes ...
Really? Your cringe comment is killing me😞😬
Our homie did not handle rejections well.
you can tell these people really believed they could write
Why is every idiot think he is a critic 😂 maybe you should write for them since you are so cleaver 🙄🙄
Now I know why Galadriel hatefully banished Sauron when he went to retrieve Gandalf during the battle of the five armies…..She was really pissed of at Sauron because she knew him very well.
The silmirilian actually never had this in it.
go read a book. Jesus Christ
The shot was so cool
Cmooon 😂 I expected better Sauron revealing
30 seconds well made in 500 million budget series is not a huge achievement
20 seconds in 567 minutes 😂
No. That was lame.
@@raiter8495 I expect a kiss atleast lol
Sauron got extremely lucky that queen anger issue said no. He really dotched a bullet...
Think you got that backwards. Pretty sure he evil bend on Middle-Earth domination.
@@russelturner5771 I think I got it right, but Amazon somehow f*d this up.
@@uncle-bin1750 Disagree.
@@russelturner5771 As it is your right to do so.
@@uncle-bin1750 Agreed!
Season 2 needs to hurry up
next 2 years
@@rme1383 really? Or you just messing with me ?
@@fabricekambinga1099 unfortunately recording for the Second season started This month. So yeah 2 years for the next season
@@fabricekambinga1099 some one mentioned in CZcams
@@rme1383 who ?
And that's the moment when I SHIPPING both and forgot all the battle for meadle earth!
Meanwhile, somewhere in Eriador, Celeborn is busy cleaning their house and doing farming, archery, poetry, and other stuff to pass the time... while waiting for his wifey to come home in a few hundred years or so
Never underestimate a man getting rejected by a girl.
Ask people of middle Earth.
Dumb comment
@@chicken4090 Dumb show
Incels rise up! 🙌🙌🙌
@@AleXand4life ur a clown, ur mother finds steady dick other than ur fathers
@@ydvishwanathan3239 yes
Thine cat is mine , thou shall give me one’s love in the name of peace😂😂😂
So many bloodshed could have avoided if only some had given this guy a piece
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If Galadriel would have decided for sauron there would have been no world peace. Sauron would have established the same government as he did in Lotr.
I dont know why but i am rooting for sauron lol
I know this is a fictional story, however it shows a fundamental truth. Never negotiate with evil
Now I understand why Sauron was destroying everything. Because he also didn’t get his love too.
He might have even been in earnest in his heart at the moment, but his own heart might have deceived him about who he really was.
Almost wanted her to say yes cutest evil ever. They are the best together first time ever I really loved TV couple together.
Incelron: Pls M'lady, only a crumble...
P tight, P clean, that P keeps Sauron from being so mean.
😂
😜
Not enough for Ben Shapiro though
Galadriel: "and you, my King... the Dark Lord?"
Sauron: "No, not Dark. Not with you at my side."
Celebrimbor somewhere in the background: "I am the Bright Lord!!!"
I wonder if being with Galadriel would've made Sauron a little better?? Probably not lol
He kept lying and lying
He would corrupt her for his corruption come straight from the source. He’s kinda like the antichrist if morgoth is Lucifer
You cant change a Devil Devil will change you
Little better?To progress from giga genocidal totalitarian maniac to normie genocidal totalitarian maniac maybe.
@@kaletovhangar ya....your probably right.
I couldnt believe it when they revealed sauron was sauron
He says she needed but the truth is he needed her to become powerful and undefeated.
Nah! She's just another Shelob as far as Sauron's power is concerned.
@@ashharhasan3120 yeah it kind of reminds me of the scene in the video game when he transforms her into Shelob.
@@ashharhasan3120 No, he would have wanted to keep her around to keep the other elves in line. That was the whole point of the Rings of Power, he could use them to control the most powerful elves and rule the other elves through them.