I've read the Hobbit before the LotR and even befor that the Silmarillion, in chronological order. Remembering those stories during the book, every little thing got deeper meaning. So the movies, filled with refences which understandable only for who are deep in the lore
Helm: Can I have a word with you outside? Proceeds to beat a man to death with his bare hands, leading to a bloody war and ultimately his own death. Helm: Worth it.
Where was Gondor? As always under attack! :) But no worries they were only delayed ;). "In the days of Beren, the nineteenth Steward, an even greater peril came upon Gondor. Three great fleets, long prepared, came up from Umbar and the Harad, and assailed the coasts of Gondor in great force; and the enemy made many landings, even as far north as the mouth of the Isen. At the same time the Rohirrim were assailed from the west and the east, and their land was overrun, and they were driven into the dales of the White Mountains. In that year (2758) the Long Winter began with cold and great snows out of the North and the East which lasted for almost five months. Helm Hammerhand of Rohan and both his sons perished in that war; and there was misery and death in Eriador and in Rohan. But in Gondor south of the mountains things were less evil, and before spring came Beregond son of Beren had overcome the invaders. At once he sent aid to Rohan. He was the greatest captain that had arisen in Gondor since Boromir; and when he succeeded his father (2763) Gondor began to recover its strength. But Rohan was slower to be healed of the hurts that it had received. It was for this reason that Beren welcomed Saruman, and gave to him the keys of Orthanc; and from that year on (2759) Saruman dwelt in Isengard." The Return of the King, LoTR Appendix A, Annals of the Kings and Rulers: Gondor and the Heirs of Anárion: The Stewards .... "Four years later (2758) great troubles came to Rohan, and no help could be sent from Gondor, for three fleets of the Corsairs attacked it and there was war on all its coasts. At the same time Rohan was again invaded from the East, and the Dunlendings seeing their chance came over the Isen and down from Isengard. It was soon known that Wulf was their leader. They were in great force, for they were joined by enemies of Gondor that landed in the mouths of Lefnui and Isen. The Rohirrim were defeated and their land was overrun; and those who were not slain or enslaved fled to the dales of the mountains. Helm was driven back with great loss from the Crossings of Isen and took refuge in the Hornburg and the ravine behind (which was after known as Helm’s Deep). There he was besieged. Wulf took Edoras and sat in Meduseld and called himself king. There Haleth Helm’s son fell, last of all, defending the doors. Return of the Kings - Book 7, Appendix A: Annals of the Kings and Rulers, II House of Eorl ... "The Eastern invaders perished or withdrew; and there came help at last from Gondor, by the roads both east and west of the mountains. Before the year (2759) was ended the Dunlendings were driven out, even from Isengard; and then Fréaláf became king."
What moment from Helm Hammerhand's life are you MOST excited to see in the War of the Rohirrim animated film? I'm glad I was able to pull this off for today's release - I decided to change topics on Thursday after the WOTR announcement, so producing this on a 2-day timeline is a new record for me. haha.
In all seriousness though, Gondor did send help to Rohan once they dealt with the Corsairs and the Haradrim. "But in Gondor south of the mountains things were less evil, and before spring came Beregond son of Beren had overcome the invaders. At once he sent aid to Rohan... There were great floods after the snows, and the vale of Entwash became a vast fen. The Eastern invaders perished or withdrew; and there came help at last from Gondor, by the roads both east and west of the mountains." - Lord of the Rings, Appendix A
One of the badass characters in all of legendarium....In this new anime I would really liked to see more about history of Rohan, more of Helms Deep and in simply more and more of Middleearth, I really hope that if this movie does well we can get a franchise, this is like a door for more and more movies and stories about Middlearth!!!
Such an intensely legendary tale, which only you can tell. The visual gave me goosebumps, knowing Helm died on his feet. Can't wait to see this on video in my man cave. Thank you Matt!!👍👍
@@shotgunsandstakes New Line Cinema is producing it, so they should be able to make animated versions of all the places, costumes, etc., Plus, use the music.
Fingers crossed that, however unlikely it may be, he does the score for the new movie. Would definitely help seed the fact that it's the same universe as the live action films for those who don't know and also because he'd be composing another Middle Earth movie lol
I went to the appendixes today and read this story to prepare for the movie and now I'm here listening to it from you! And what a delight! Your narration brought tears to my eyes! Tolkien stories are the best and you do a great job by bringing them to us like you do!! Thank you very much!!
It's a funny coincidence that I asked for this video only days before we knew about the War of the Rohirrim film 😅 thank you, even though I wasn't the cause of it!
I wasn't particularly excited about the new film when I first heard of it, but after watching this video, as well as your livestream from the other day, I've changed my stance completely. This movie has potential to be amazing, and I'm really excited to see another movie in the canon of the LOTR/Hobbit films. I still don't like that they're calling it "The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim" though, but I get that that's just for brand recognition.
I cant wait for the animated film, im so excited!!! I've been an avid fan of the Tolkien Mythology Stories... Never tired of watching LOTR trilogy & the Hobbit trilogy...
@@fxeconomist The only place you'd read that is in the game lore. The Nazgûl appeared a thousand years before Isildur's time, and Helm over a thousand years after him. Tolkien never revealed their identities, except Khamûl the Easterling, and the only thing we know about him is the name.
The producer confirmed they're sticking to Tolkein canon after some news source tweeted about the Nazgul thing. It's a cool game but the creative liberties it took were a bit odd lol
I'm so glad you read those lines of Helm and Freca. So epic! You have done a great job. However, you said Helm's son Haleth died before the doors of Suthburg. He actually died defending Meduseld from Wulf's attack. He was the last to be killed before Wulf sat on the throne.
Damn this dude just one shots a guy and gets a badass nickname just like that! Lol Can we get videos on ungoliant and shelob in the future? “The long winter” Tolkien you rule! And Norse myth rocks! Damn Helm was a cool king even in death.
I think The Long Winter would have been far better title than The War of the Rohirrim, which sounds more like some lame mobile lotr game (seriously lotr has bad luck when it comes to games, even though the franchise has enormous potential for those, give me a proper open world single player modern graphics AAA RPG and it will be a huge hit!), the Long Winter is actually a crucial event and it sounds more ominous and sets the tone.
I don't understand why some people get mad when Tolkien works is adapted to Anime. I mean we already got two animated adaptation before right? Even for Rankin Bass version it have some anime-ish style (just look at eowyn), and yet people never complaint.
That Rankin Bass was animated by a Japanese studio that was later bought and renamed to Studio Ghibli and maintained most of the animators who worked on the Hobbit.
Anime wasn’t as scorned then as it is now. It’s like a dirty word for many people on the internet now thanks to its fan base and the connotations that some works have given to the name ‘anime’
Its not the anime I have a problem with its that I have zero faith in that the show will be good or faithful to the lore. I actually am a fan of some anime I even have anime godzilla as my profile picture.
First, I loved learning that Haleth, and his father Hama, were named after Helm’s two sons. That alone gives much more depth to the Two Towers movie. Something I want to see in this animated film is a callback to the film The Two Towers. The sungleam, the first in many days, that comes on the morning when Helm is discovered dead while standing at his post, it makes me think of in Two Towers when “first light comes on the fifth day”. If we got the same shot of that sungleam coming in from the east when Helm is discovered, that would be an amazing film reference!
Great video and info like always. I can picture him stalking through the snow taking down the dunlendings one by one and blowing his horn to let them know he's coming. I hope this is in the movie.
Good walk-through of the story of Helm Hammerhand. The thought of seeing this story as an anime movie really thrills me. Also thanks for featuring and naming Turner Mohan, one of my favorite fan artists, who deserves more publicity for his work.
This is the only thing that still gives me hope to be back in Middle Earth. I wasn't impressed or excited about this project when it was announced just because I am more into elves and all their drama, Men always were a little bit boring for me... But now I feel very excited about it - I'd rather watch a very good anime about Rohan and lose myself in Middle Earth once again, than some other tv show with elves in it but without that unique Middle Earth atmosphere and... soul. Maybe I am wrong, time will tell, but for now those are my thoughts.
I've just stumbled upon your channel a few days ago and I'm absolutely enthralled. By far my favorite content to date. I just wanted to express my appreciation and admiration for the work you're are doing. And I'm sure it means as much to others as well. Just wanted you to know that you're appreciated. Thank you sir.
@@DummasRetaurdè Don't parrot the Drinker, the message as you put it is perfectly fine in the setting of Rohan. They have shieldmaidens, the princess is the cause of the war her role should be expanded. But don't make it all about her if you call it the War.
@@Bayard1503 “the message” is a higher priority for the studios than the plot. She was unnamed in the book, and this is what this is based off. This is unfaithful treatment of Tolkien, and he would have hated it. “The message” does not fit in here. It does not fit in here. Sure, her role can be expanded, but this is not expansion of the character it is a repeat of “the message”. We already saw this many times. Quoting the Drinker is perfectly fine in this setting. This is mulan in lotr
I am subscribed to your channel and have enjoyed many of your videos, they have helped me to better understand Tolkien's work. This stands out as truly wonderful because I had never considered how Helms Deep earned it's name and now I do. I just sit in wonder at times how many more stories could have told had the master of these tales lived but a few more years. I thank his son for sharing with us what he did. Rest in peace J.R.R. Tolkien. ⛅👍🍻
@@marquisdelafayette-xe1ht oh and also instead of Fréaláf bringing people it will be the daughter and they will be shieldmaidens instead, because why not
Information about the film was released today, along with pictures from inside the film, but according to the information received, it seems that the film will not focus on King Helm Hammerhand as a main character, but rather will focus on his daughter Hera, about whom nothing much was mentioned in the novel.
Man Rohan should talk with Gimli to see about bringing many dwarfs to helms deep to help carve more living space inside those caves. Then in the front area carve out hall’s and ledges along the mountain walls high up so to give archers room to sound on 3 sides any army to attack helms deep.
it is such a small detail; but the fact that his grave grew with the most Simbelmynë to make it appear like it was covered in snow, is so awesome. can't even explain the feels
I would love to hear you talk about the extended battle scene from the book The Fall of Gondolin. I recently finished it and while a good portion of it is pretty "heady" the section that greatly expands the story of Tuor was amazing. There were parts that moved me greatly, sometimes even to near tears. ESPECIALLY, the tragic eponymous Fall of Gondolin. In my opinion, it makes the battle of the Pelennor Fields look like a mere skirmish! And the depictions of immense bravery and tragic loss had me both on the edge of my seat and once again finding myself becoming misty eyed as I rooted for the doomed and betrayed defenders. It's almost surreal as horrible acts of violence occur while the many fountains in the city continue bubbling and spraying along as the battle rages around them right up to the very end (also playing a part in allowing the refugees to escape under the cover of their steam). Oh, and there are Balrogs. LOTS of Balrogs. Dragons, too. Also, there are metal beasts that Melkor creates that I find the most interesting. The are literally living armored tanks/personnel carriers. There are several scenes where they appear. It's fascinating stuff that isn't found in the Silmarillion. Of course, the depiction of the ambush of the escaping elves is great, too. Especially since it involves an epic one on one battle with yet another Balrog. ;)
Yeah, Morgoth's dragon APCs were pretty metal as fuck. I haven't read the Book of Lost Tales version of the Fall of Gondolin in like five years but that little tidbit was what stuck in my head after all this time.
@@nilubensonofnimruzir1637 Get a copy of Fall of Gondolin. It was the last book Chris Tolkien put together before he died last year. It was published in 2018. Seriously, you will not be disappointed. 😉
Gondor actually did send help: "The Eastern invaders perished or withdrew; and there came help at last from Gondor, by the roads both east and west of the mountains. Before the year (2759) was ended the Dunlendings were driven out, even from Isengard; and then Fréaláf became king." ... ""In the days of Beren, the nineteenth Steward, an even greater peril came upon Gondor. Three great fleets, long prepared, came up from Umbar and the Harad, and assailed the coasts of Gondor in great force; and the enemy made many landings, even as far north as the mouth of the Isen. At the same time the Rohirrim were assailed from the west and the east, and their land was overrun, and they were driven into the dales of the White Mountains. In that year (2758) the Long Winter began with cold and great snows out of the North and the East which lasted for almost five months. Helm Hammerhand of Rohan and both his sons perished in that war; and there was misery and death in Eriador and in Rohan. But in Gondor south of the mountains things were less evil, and before spring came Beregond son of Beren had overcome the invaders. At once he sent aid to Rohan. He was the greatest captain that had arisen in Gondor since Boromir; and when he succeeded his father (2763) Gondor began to recover its strength. But Rohan was slower to be healed of the hurts that it had received. It was for this reason that Beren welcomed Saruman, and gave to him the keys of Orthanc; and from that year on (2759) Saruman dwelt in Isengard." That help was actually significant enough in the later years that several next kings of Rohan felt great gratitude: "14. Folcwine. When he became king the Rohirrim had recovered their strength. He reconquered the west-march (between Adorn and Isen) that Dunlendings had occupied. Rohan had received great help from Gondor in the evil days. When, therefore, he heard that the Haradrim were assailing Gondor with great strength, he sent many men to the help of the Steward. He wished to lead them himself, but was dissuaded, and his twin sons Folcred and Fastred (born 2858) went in his stead. They fell side by side in battle in Ithilien (2885). Túrin II of Gondor sent to Folcwine a rich weregild of gold." Also Saruman helped Rohan deal with immediate aftermath of the Long Winter: 2726-2798 10. Fréaláf Hildeson. In his time Saruman came to Isengard, from which the Dunlendings had been driven. The Rohirrim at first profited by his friendship in the days of dearth and weakness that followed. The Return of the King, LoTR Appendix A, Annals of the Kings and Rulers: The House of Eorl
I love the story’s of Rohan, it is one of my favourite kingdoms in middle earth, also just wanna say I love all your content and look forward to your videos every week 😁
Lord of the Rings Online recently added a new class called the "Brawler". This class uses no weapons except your hands so I wasn't too excited when I first heard about it but then they explained that it was "inspired" by Helm Hammerhand and I was immediately "inspired" to create a new character - lol For some reason, roleplaying a Brawler with Helm Hammerhand as my guide just created such an enjoyable experience. I romped my way through 140 levels in record time (for me) enjoying every single crushing blow. Watching this video got me a little emotional - I really adore the story of Helm Hammerhand and feel so fortunate to have LotRO and now this upcoming film to spend more time in his story. Thank you Nerd of the Rings!
I know extremely little about this character so thanks a lot for making it clear Mellon! Keep it up My fellow Middle Earth nerd. Ps. Really excited about the new animated movie coming out soon!
Hello Nerd of the rings. What I’m most excited for in the new movie is either seeing helms story brought into it or an exploration of all the great kings of Rohan before Theoden and Eomer. And I have a question do you think helms daughter also died during the winter or did she pass down a few heirs of her own but they did not want the thrown?
That's a great question! I don't think we are ever told what happened to her. Could she have been killed when Wulf overtook Edoras? Or perhaps she fled to Dunharrow with Frealaf? Makes you wonder about Eowyn's line in the LOTR films: "Women of this country learned long ago that those without swords could still die upon them."
@Nerd of the rings thank you. Also I feel like in my head canon helms daughter and heir perhaps let her cousin assume the throne and maybe she made her own royal house like that princess from numenor that gave us elendil and his sons in the second age. Also great job with this video the artwork you used reminded me of Men of The West’s video on Rohan.
Awesome!!:) i always did love the Rohirrum ever since reading the books as a child. Well remember sitting in the cinema and when Theodan and his riders arrived at Gondor..swear you could hear a pin drop. Not one breath in during that scene in the film
Will we ever get a video on all things Numenor?? Different kings, geography, beginning & end, rise & fall?? I’d love to see it & I’m sure a lot of others would to!
Great video as always! Can't wait to see them adapt those stories from TLotR Appendices. Btw, I'm also up to making my first video (also on the Rohirrim, specifically their later war with Saruman) and I was wondering if you or anyone else could tell me what program do you use for the circle-shaped images (or ar least suggest a similar app); so far I have the recording, the artwork (with the names/usernames of the artists) and the music so now I have to deal with the visuals. I'll be sure to refference this great video (I already have in the script & recording), I think it could tie in quite nicely to the subject of mine :) Keep up the good work!
I always wondered if in the two towers movie , the little boy that Aragorn comforts before the battle of Helm's Deep (Son of Hamma(?) had any actual background in the books, and this definitely clears that one up. However, does Hamma's son live during the battle of Helms Deep? Does the line of Helm Hammerhand live on, or does it die with that scrawny ginger kid?
Read the book The Children of Hurin. I think it's the best of the three epic stories in the First Age, because Christopher gives us a single completed story instead of fragments from various versions, making us by ourselves have to sift through it and decide which version makes the most sense.
@@Enerdhil I kinda like it when a story is kind of vague and fragmented, it feels more realistic in my opininon, like with old tales and legends in our world. But I'll defenitely read the children of Hurín sometime, altough I already know the story.
If you do a video on Isildur (I did not see one in your list of videos,) can you include his son Elendur? I remember reading in I think Unfinished Tales, a story on the Disaster of the Gladden Fields. In it, there was a paragraph or so talking about Elrond remembering Elendur and how much Aragorn II looked like him. The last sentence talked about how he should have been king after his father Isildur and how long it took for him to have some sort of revenge. Also, it was said that Elendur was in mind and body more like his grandfather Elendil than his father or uncle or any of his brothers or cousin(s)(?)
The official trailer makes it look as if Peter Jackson has turned this into a story about the heroism of Helm Hammerhand's daughter. I get that there's not enough material in the written story for a full screenplay, so what will be interesting to see is whether all of the trailer material focusing on "Hera" is unnecessary padding added to the written story (like the "Tauriel" material in The Hobbit films) or whether the "Hera" story replaces the written story (just as Jackson had Arwen replace Glorfindel in the part of the Fellowship of the Ring film where Frodo is saved from the Ringwraiths).
I’m very excited with this forthcoming anime movie! I would like to Helm’s daughter had a name and a voice in the adaptation, similarly to Éowyn (but not equally, of course, I know there is no prophecy in this case, and she should be herself, authentic, etc. etc. etc.).
Yeah, I can't see Helm's daughter remaining unnamed. That would be weird, haha. I wonder if they'll perhaps pull from another name from the history of Rohan to use. Could be a fun easter egg, like in the Two Towers - the woman with the two kids on the horse is named "Morwen" - the name of Hurin's wife, and the mother of Turin & Nienor from the First Age.
Also, they could show Wulf accompanying his father on the few trips for council meetings and trying to flirt with her while his father is dissing Helm for a few hours.
@@NerdoftheRings I would expect other more...Anglo-Saxon/Norse-like name, in the manner of Hild, Helm's sister, his wife and daughter would not have the names such as those used in the naming traditions of Gondor, as Morwen was a name that appears to be used in tradition of re-using old names of Edain of old (Gondor loved to reuse those), Theoden's wife Elfhild, or sister Theodwyn something of the sort.
I have high hopes. I think they picked a story that has enough to go off of in the original text that it will be highly compelling. Also, it's really well self-contained, so it doesn't rely too much on other locations/events in Middle-earth during this time. I would LOVE to see more films like this that tell smaller, but still epic stories from Middle-earth history.
@@NerdoftheRings I personally want to see an adaption of the two blue wizards. There is a lot of room for interpretation as to what they ended up doing in the east.
ok... Helms Hammerhand... what a badass character, what a mounstrosous men, so, all make sense again.... when that horn sound all peapol with rohirrim blood knew... all who has fear will die... and I'm sure the uruk hai feel that fear.... it would be awesome If helm spirit would appear after that horn sound... "a tall, stong and ghostly being appear in the field... killing orcs and uruk-hai with his bare hands"
@@technic5528 Fantastic name you have! They just announced the production of the anime film beginning, so it'll be a while before it comes out in theaters.
Since they knew him to be a traitor by then, I'd say there would be a fight that would break out. haha. If you're wondering about a situation where Saruman's treachery wasn't known by then, I would imagine Saruman would volunteer for the Fellowship so he could await his chance to take the ring by force - knowing he couldn't claim it there in Rivendell and his best chance would be in the wild.
"By covering the life and travels of Helm Hammerhand" scratch that, actually the life and travels of HELM'S DAUGHTER 😅 (still want to see it, obviously)
“The horn of Helm Hammerhand- shall sound in the deep! One last time~”
With knowledge of the lore of Helm, Theoden’s quote seems much more cool
Gives me goosebumps every time
I know right! I just watched that clip again because of this new knowledge of lore of Helm’s Deeps lol
I've read the Hobbit before the LotR and even befor that the Silmarillion, in chronological order.
Remembering those stories during the book, every little thing got deeper meaning. So the movies, filled with refences which understandable only for who are deep in the lore
Now for wrath! Now for ruin! And the red Dawn!
YES!
Helm: Can I have a word with you outside?
Proceeds to beat a man to death with his bare hands, leading to a bloody war and ultimately his own death.
Helm: Worth it.
It only took one hand.
Imagine how deadly he'd be if he knew martial arts from Easternesse.
I guess one might say you NAILED Hammerhand's review
GET OOOOOOUT!!!!!
I'm disappointed in myself for laughing 😆
Nah, he HAMMERED it home.
Oooo, ...my side...
Patrick, please see yourself out.
Rohan: “Where was Gondor?”
Gondor: “Er, it was snowing, we couldn’t make it.”
Rohan: “OK Gondor 🙄”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! WHERE WAS GONDOR! HAHAHAHA
yep, that must be the reason lol
Where was Gondor? As always under attack! :) But no worries they were only delayed ;).
"In the days of Beren, the nineteenth Steward, an even greater peril came upon Gondor. Three great fleets, long prepared, came up from Umbar and the Harad, and assailed the coasts of Gondor in great force; and the enemy made many landings, even as far north as the mouth of the Isen. At the same time the Rohirrim were assailed from the west and the east, and their land was overrun, and they were driven into the dales of the White Mountains. In that year (2758) the Long Winter began with cold and great snows out of the North and the East which lasted for almost five months. Helm Hammerhand of Rohan and both his sons perished in that war; and there was misery and death in Eriador and in Rohan. But in Gondor south of the mountains things were less evil, and before spring came Beregond son of Beren had overcome the invaders. At once he sent aid to Rohan. He was the greatest captain that had arisen in Gondor since Boromir; and when he succeeded his father (2763) Gondor began to recover its strength. But Rohan was slower to be healed of the hurts that it had received. It was for this reason that Beren welcomed Saruman, and gave to him the keys of Orthanc; and from that year on (2759) Saruman dwelt in Isengard."
The Return of the King, LoTR Appendix A, Annals of the Kings and Rulers: Gondor and the Heirs of Anárion: The Stewards
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"Four years later (2758) great troubles came to Rohan, and no help could be sent from Gondor, for three fleets of the Corsairs attacked it and there was war on all its coasts. At the same time Rohan was again invaded from the East, and the Dunlendings seeing their chance came over the Isen and down from Isengard. It was soon known that Wulf was their leader. They were in great force, for they were joined by enemies of Gondor that landed in the mouths of Lefnui and Isen. The Rohirrim were defeated and their land was overrun; and those who were not slain or enslaved fled to the dales of the mountains. Helm was driven back with great loss from the Crossings of Isen and took refuge in the Hornburg and the ravine behind (which was after known as Helm’s Deep). There he was besieged. Wulf took Edoras and sat in Meduseld and called himself king. There Haleth Helm’s son fell, last of all, defending the doors.
Return of the Kings - Book 7, Appendix A: Annals of the Kings and Rulers, II House of Eorl
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"The Eastern invaders perished or withdrew; and there came help at last from Gondor, by the roads both east and west of the mountains. Before the year (2759) was ended the Dunlendings were driven out, even from Isengard; and then Fréaláf became king."
Heeeeeeeeeeeres Gondor !
*Blows horn of Gondor*
🤣🤣🤣
What moment from Helm Hammerhand's life are you MOST excited to see in the War of the Rohirrim animated film?
I'm glad I was able to pull this off for today's release - I decided to change topics on Thursday after the WOTR announcement, so producing this on a 2-day timeline is a new record for me. haha.
EVERYTHIIINGGGGG
The inevitable last scene of him being found frozen in Helms-deep and being put to rest under a hill of Simbelmyne.😢
This will be ANIME, so I can't wait for that epic punch. I just hope he doesn't yell, "KAMEHAMEHAAAAAAAAA!" before doing so.
His fist! :D
His final batlle and his nephew killing Wulf
"Where was Gondor when the deep snows fell?"
In all seriousness though, Gondor did send help to Rohan once they dealt with the Corsairs and the Haradrim.
"But in Gondor south of the mountains things were less
evil, and before spring came Beregond son of Beren had overcome the invaders. At once he sent aid to Rohan... There were great floods after the snows, and the vale of Entwash became a vast fen. The Eastern invaders perished or withdrew; and there came help at last from Gondor, by the roads both east and west of the mountains."
- Lord of the Rings, Appendix A
*"No, my lord Aragorn.. we are alone."*
Helm really said, "let's take this outside" in the poshest way possible.
There's something about enjoying both a fine cup of Joe, some Pipeweed, and your presentation. Thank you for sharing, well done friend.
One of the badass characters in all of legendarium....In this new anime I would really liked to see more about history of Rohan, more of Helms Deep and in simply more and more of Middleearth, I really hope that if this movie does well we can get a franchise, this is like a door for more and more movies and stories about Middlearth!!!
Is there a more bad-a** name for a character than "HELM HAMMERHAND?"
The first thing I thought when you mentioned “The war of the Rohirrim” I thought “The horn of helm hammerhand will sound in the deep one last time!”
Such an intensely legendary tale, which only you can tell. The visual gave me goosebumps, knowing Helm died on his feet. Can't wait to see this on video in my man cave.
Thank you Matt!!👍👍
I can't wait for this movie!! I love everything about Rohan!
I've been humming Howard Shore's Rohan music to myself ever since the movie was announced!
@@NerdoftheRings Ooh, I wish they would use that in the movie! Could they? I just need the Forth Eorlingas soundtrack to play at least once please.
@@shotgunsandstakes
New Line Cinema is producing it, so they should be able to make animated versions of all the places, costumes, etc., Plus, use the music.
Fingers crossed that, however unlikely it may be, he does the score for the new movie. Would definitely help seed the fact that it's the same universe as the live action films for those who don't know and also because he'd be composing another Middle Earth movie lol
What movie ?
I went to the appendixes today and read this story to prepare for the movie and now I'm here listening to it from you! And what a delight! Your narration brought tears to my eyes! Tolkien stories are the best and you do a great job by bringing them to us like you do!! Thank you very much!!
It's a funny coincidence that I asked for this video only days before we knew about the War of the Rohirrim film 😅 thank you, even though I wasn't the cause of it!
I wasn't particularly excited about the new film when I first heard of it, but after watching this video, as well as your livestream from the other day, I've changed my stance completely. This movie has potential to be amazing, and I'm really excited to see another movie in the canon of the LOTR/Hobbit films.
I still don't like that they're calling it "The Lord of the Rings: The War of the Rohirrim" though, but I get that that's just for brand recognition.
Loved this! I’m super excited for this animated movie. Helm was such a badass King and I’m glad we finally get to see his story being told!
I cant wait for the animated film, im so excited!!! I've been an avid fan of the Tolkien Mythology Stories... Never tired of watching LOTR trilogy & the Hobbit trilogy...
Friendly reminder to our Shadow of War fans-
He’s not a Ringwraith ~__~
I remember reading he became a Nazgul.
One of Tolkien's most iconic characters is the hot Goth chick, Shelob.
@@fxeconomist The only place you'd read that is in the game lore. The Nazgûl appeared a thousand years before Isildur's time, and Helm over a thousand years after him. Tolkien never revealed their identities, except Khamûl the Easterling, and the only thing we know about him is the name.
What the hell
The producer confirmed they're sticking to Tolkein canon after some news source tweeted about the Nazgul thing. It's a cool game but the creative liberties it took were a bit odd lol
I'm so glad you read those lines of Helm and Freca. So epic! You have done a great job. However, you said Helm's son Haleth died before the doors of Suthburg. He actually died defending Meduseld from Wulf's attack. He was the last to be killed before Wulf sat on the throne.
Damn this dude just one shots a guy and gets a badass nickname just like that! Lol
Can we get videos on ungoliant and shelob in the future?
“The long winter” Tolkien you rule! And Norse myth rocks!
Damn Helm was a cool king even in death.
I think The Long Winter would have been far better title than The War of the Rohirrim, which sounds more like some lame mobile lotr game (seriously lotr has bad luck when it comes to games, even though the franchise has enormous potential for those, give me a proper open world single player modern graphics AAA RPG and it will be a huge hit!), the Long Winter is actually a crucial event and it sounds more ominous and sets the tone.
@@fantasywind3923 yeah or Helm’s Winter.
I don't understand why some people get mad when Tolkien works is adapted to Anime. I mean we already got two animated adaptation before right? Even for Rankin Bass version it have some anime-ish style (just look at eowyn), and yet people never complaint.
That Rankin Bass was animated by a Japanese studio that was later bought and renamed to Studio Ghibli and maintained most of the animators who worked on the Hobbit.
There were lots of complaints when the movies came out.
Anime wasn’t as scorned then as it is now. It’s like a dirty word for many people on the internet now thanks to its fan base and the connotations that some works have given to the name ‘anime’
Its not the anime I have a problem with its that I have zero faith in that the show will be good or faithful to the lore. I actually am a fan of some anime I even have anime godzilla as my profile picture.
First, I loved learning that Haleth, and his father Hama, were named after Helm’s two sons. That alone gives much more depth to the Two Towers movie.
Something I want to see in this animated film is a callback to the film The Two Towers. The sungleam, the first in many days, that comes on the morning when Helm is discovered dead while standing at his post, it makes me think of in Two Towers when “first light comes on the fifth day”. If we got the same shot of that sungleam coming in from the east when Helm is discovered, that would be an amazing film reference!
Haleth was also the name of one of the original heroes of Men in the First Age.
Btw Háma was also the name of Theoden's gatekeeper in the books. Háma died in the battle of Helms Deep against Saruman's orcs.
Great video and info like always.
I can picture him stalking through the snow taking down the dunlendings one by one and blowing his horn to let them know he's coming. I hope this is in the movie.
The Horn of Helm Hammerhand sounds mystical...add some loudspeakers and this would have left Rohan in frenzy
Good walk-through of the story of Helm Hammerhand. The thought of seeing this story as an anime movie really thrills me. Also thanks for featuring and naming Turner Mohan, one of my favorite fan artists, who deserves more publicity for his work.
This is the only thing that still gives me hope to be back in Middle Earth. I wasn't impressed or excited about this project when it was announced just because I am more into elves and all their drama, Men always were a little bit boring for me... But now I feel very excited about it - I'd rather watch a very good anime about Rohan and lose myself in Middle Earth once again, than some other tv show with elves in it but without that unique Middle Earth atmosphere and... soul. Maybe I am wrong, time will tell, but for now those are my thoughts.
I've just stumbled upon your channel a few days ago and I'm absolutely enthralled. By far my favorite content to date. I just wanted to express my appreciation and admiration for the work you're are doing. And I'm sure it means as much to others as well. Just wanted you to know that you're appreciated. Thank you sir.
Yup the trailer brought me here cant wait for December 2024
So no worries... they're not really telling his story in the movie.
Sigh. Yeah. Yet another one corrupted by "the message".
@@DummasRetaurdè Don't parrot the Drinker, the message as you put it is perfectly fine in the setting of Rohan. They have shieldmaidens, the princess is the cause of the war her role should be expanded. But don't make it all about her if you call it the War.
I don't think that the story is going to center around the princess solely. Helm Hammerhand will play a role which is as important as Theoden too.
@@Bayard1503 “the message” is a higher priority for the studios than the plot. She was unnamed in the book, and this is what this is based off. This is unfaithful treatment of Tolkien, and he would have hated it. “The message” does not fit in here. It does not fit in here. Sure, her role can be expanded, but this is not expansion of the character it is a repeat of “the message”. We already saw this many times. Quoting the Drinker is perfectly fine in this setting. This is mulan in lotr
@@starrynight6268 unlikely
Dwarfs are kinda my favorite tied with those of Gondor for the mad skills at carving out mountains and turning them into massive fortresses!!!
I am subscribed to your channel and have enjoyed many of your videos, they have helped me to better understand Tolkien's work. This stands out as truly wonderful because I had never considered how Helms Deep earned it's name and now I do. I just sit in wonder at times how many more stories could have told had the master of these tales lived but a few more years. I thank his son for sharing with us what he did. Rest in peace J.R.R. Tolkien. ⛅👍🍻
Well here we are….. time for Warner Bros to prove themselves
Did you watch the trailer? The show will not be about Helm, it will be about his unnamed daughter
@@marquisdelafayette-xe1ht oh and also instead of Fréaláf bringing people it will be the daughter and they will be shieldmaidens instead, because why not
Information about the film was released today, along with pictures from inside the film, but according to the information received, it seems that the film will not focus on King Helm Hammerhand as a main character, but rather will focus on his daughter Hera, about whom nothing much was mentioned in the novel.
Man Rohan should talk with Gimli to see about bringing many dwarfs to helms deep to help carve more living space inside those caves. Then in the front area carve out hall’s and ledges along the mountain walls high up so to give archers room to sound on 3 sides any army to attack helms deep.
it is such a small detail; but the fact that his grave grew with the most Simbelmynë to make it appear like it was covered in snow, is so awesome. can't even explain the feels
Dude, you must have worked all day & night on this to get it out in time! We appreciate your content and the work you pour into every video!
The battle of going balls deep was truly a master piece
Wow props to u for getting this done mere days after the announcement 🤣
I guess being hasty does have its advantages lol
I would love to hear you talk about the extended battle scene from the book The Fall of Gondolin. I recently finished it and while a good portion of it is pretty "heady" the section that greatly expands the story of Tuor was amazing. There were parts that moved me greatly, sometimes even to near tears. ESPECIALLY, the tragic eponymous Fall of Gondolin. In my opinion, it makes the battle of the Pelennor Fields look like a mere skirmish! And the depictions of immense bravery and tragic loss had me both on the edge of my seat and once again finding myself becoming misty eyed as I rooted for the doomed and betrayed defenders. It's almost surreal as horrible acts of violence occur while the many fountains in the city continue bubbling and spraying along as the battle rages around them right up to the very end (also playing a part in allowing the refugees to escape under the cover of their steam). Oh, and there are Balrogs. LOTS of Balrogs. Dragons, too. Also, there are metal beasts that Melkor creates that I find the most interesting. The are literally living armored tanks/personnel carriers. There are several scenes where they appear. It's fascinating stuff that isn't found in the Silmarillion. Of course, the depiction of the ambush of the escaping elves is great, too. Especially since it involves an epic one on one battle with yet another Balrog. ;)
Yeah, Morgoth's dragon APCs were pretty metal as fuck. I haven't read the Book of Lost Tales version of the Fall of Gondolin in like five years but that little tidbit was what stuck in my head after all this time.
@@nilubensonofnimruzir1637 Get a copy of Fall of Gondolin. It was the last book Chris Tolkien put together before he died last year. It was published in 2018. Seriously, you will not be disappointed. 😉
The Fall of Gondolin is my favorite Middle Earth story!
I can’t wait for the upcoming anime adaptation of this man
The maps you use are such a great reference for us to be able to relate places to people and times. Just a great way to teach and show this lore!
Of course. Gondor ALWAYS has a reason not to be there.
Except they did come
Gondor actually did send help:
"The Eastern invaders perished or withdrew; and there came help at last from Gondor, by the roads both east and west of the mountains. Before the year (2759) was ended the Dunlendings were driven out, even from Isengard; and then Fréaláf became king."
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""In the days of Beren, the nineteenth Steward, an even greater peril came upon Gondor. Three great fleets, long prepared, came up from Umbar and the Harad, and assailed the coasts of Gondor in great force; and the enemy made many landings, even as far north as the mouth of the Isen. At the same time the Rohirrim were assailed from the west and the east, and their land was overrun, and they were driven into the dales of the White Mountains. In that year (2758) the Long Winter began with cold and great snows out of the North and the East which lasted for almost five months. Helm Hammerhand of Rohan and both his sons perished in that war; and there was misery and death in Eriador and in Rohan. But in Gondor south of the mountains things were less evil, and before spring came Beregond son of Beren had overcome the invaders. At once he sent aid to Rohan. He was the greatest captain that had arisen in Gondor since Boromir; and when he succeeded his father (2763) Gondor began to recover its strength. But Rohan was slower to be healed of the hurts that it had received. It was for this reason that Beren welcomed Saruman, and gave to him the keys of Orthanc; and from that year on (2759) Saruman dwelt in Isengard."
That help was actually significant enough in the later years that several next kings of Rohan felt great gratitude:
"14. Folcwine.
When he became king the Rohirrim had recovered their strength. He reconquered the west-march (between Adorn and Isen) that Dunlendings had occupied. Rohan had received great help from Gondor in the evil days. When, therefore, he heard that the Haradrim were assailing Gondor with great strength, he sent many men to the help of the Steward. He wished to lead them himself, but was dissuaded, and his twin sons Folcred and Fastred (born 2858) went in his stead. They fell side by side in battle in Ithilien (2885). Túrin II of Gondor sent to Folcwine a rich weregild of gold."
Also Saruman helped Rohan deal with immediate aftermath of the Long Winter:
2726-2798
10. Fréaláf Hildeson. In his time Saruman came to Isengard, from which the Dunlendings had been driven. The Rohirrim at first profited by his friendship in the days of dearth and weakness that followed.
The Return of the King, LoTR Appendix A, Annals of the Kings and Rulers: The House of Eorl
Where was Gondor...
Stop with weaker Gondor of the movies. Gondor did help Rohan in history.
man i only just recently found your content and my god it really does help me sleep. (in a good way)
Try watching it when fully awake; it's much better.😁
I love the story’s of Rohan, it is one of my favourite kingdoms in middle earth, also just wanna say I love all your content and look forward to your videos every week 😁
Lord of the Rings Online recently added a new class called the "Brawler". This class uses no weapons except your hands so I wasn't too excited when I first heard about it but then they explained that it was "inspired" by Helm Hammerhand and I was immediately "inspired" to create a new character - lol For some reason, roleplaying a Brawler with Helm Hammerhand as my guide just created such an enjoyable experience. I romped my way through 140 levels in record time (for me) enjoying every single crushing blow. Watching this video got me a little emotional - I really adore the story of Helm Hammerhand and feel so fortunate to have LotRO and now this upcoming film to spend more time in his story. Thank you Nerd of the Rings!
I really want to see Balin's campaign to retake Moria. But im just as excited to see this animation.
Helm Hammerhand's story sounds like legend straight out of the Edda.
I know extremely little about this character so thanks a lot for making it clear Mellon! Keep it up My fellow Middle Earth nerd.
Ps. Really excited about the new animated movie coming out soon!
Rip hammer hand. Now this video is the top hit when I search for him
Damn, that's some badass background that I didn't know. Awesome video!
Love your videos! You should do one of the life and background of Boromir.
So cool . Such a good time to be a LotR fan
Agreed! Exciting times!
Depends IF they don't twist Tolkiens work with some modern political agends.
a good explaination of the history of this important character, much unspoken of it..and certainly looking forward to the film :P
The deeping horn sounding and him hunting the men of Wulf as a snow troll
What a total badass of a man! Epic!
Hello Nerd of the rings. What I’m most excited for in the new movie is either seeing helms story brought into it or an exploration of all the great kings of Rohan before Theoden and Eomer. And I have a question do you think helms daughter also died during the winter or did she pass down a few heirs of her own but they did not want the thrown?
That's a great question! I don't think we are ever told what happened to her. Could she have been killed when Wulf overtook Edoras? Or perhaps she fled to Dunharrow with Frealaf? Makes you wonder about Eowyn's line in the LOTR films: "Women of this country learned long ago that those without swords could still die upon them."
@Nerd of the rings thank you. Also I feel like in my head canon helms daughter and heir perhaps let her cousin assume the throne and maybe she made her own royal house like that princess from numenor that gave us elendil and his sons in the second age. Also great job with this video the artwork you used reminded me of Men of The West’s video on Rohan.
Your videos have very strongly renewed my interest in Middle Earth! Also, the production quality is top-notch well done and keep up the great work!
Thanks for that ! 🖖
Always a pleasure to watch or videos! Thank you so much for your work!🙏
Haha I just goocled this the other day and was like why doesn't he have a video on this one yet hmmmm? Ask and you shall receive!
Awesome!!:) i always did love the Rohirrum ever since reading the books as a child. Well remember sitting in the cinema and when Theodan and his riders arrived at Gondor..swear you could hear a pin drop. Not one breath in during that scene in the film
Love your videos and most of all your use of tone to describe events with the background music love it!
We need a Helm Hammerhand to run for president in 2024.
Wouldn't be much of a contest...
The current President is Joe-
...'ficks his finger'
Yeah but the Dems would just cheat again.
Instead we have Hairpiece Tinyhands
cool video matt enjoyed it
Will we ever get a video on all things Numenor?? Different kings, geography, beginning & end, rise & fall?? I’d love to see it & I’m sure a lot of others would to!
Definitely! All in good time! 😁
@@NerdoftheRingsIluvatar bless! 🙏 😆😆
I'm here after the Philippa interview. I totally missed news about this new movie. Exciting!
thx for another great video, as always enjoyed watching it)
Most awaited dude. Thanks 👍
Recently found out that Helm was the inspiration for the new Brawler class in LOTRO and came here to check out the lore
This was brilliant, thank you!
Helm Hammerhand was the living incarnation of "At close quarters, a fist is better than any gun".
Destiny 2 reference.
I am WAY more excited about this than I am for the Amazon show.
Great video as always! Can't wait to see them adapt those stories from TLotR Appendices. Btw, I'm also up to making my first video (also on the Rohirrim, specifically their later war with Saruman) and I was wondering if you or anyone else could tell me what program do you use for the circle-shaped images (or ar least suggest a similar app); so far I have the recording, the artwork (with the names/usernames of the artists) and the music so now I have to deal with the visuals.
I'll be sure to refference this great video (I already have in the script & recording), I think it could tie in quite nicely to the subject of mine :) Keep up the good work!
I always wondered if in the two towers movie , the little boy that Aragorn comforts before the battle of Helm's Deep (Son of Hamma(?) had any actual background in the books, and this definitely clears that one up. However, does Hamma's son live during the battle of Helms Deep? Does the line of Helm Hammerhand live on, or does it die with that scrawny ginger kid?
Thank you for the great video! The Art was also awesome
Enjoying the vid as always notr! Could you do a vid on Húrin (and his son Turín) sometime? That would be very cool to see
Definitely! I've been holding off on Turin for a special occasion - perhaps my upcoming 100th video special!
@@NerdoftheRings hype
Read the book The Children of Hurin. I think it's the best of the three epic stories in the First Age, because Christopher gives us a single completed story instead of fragments from various versions, making us by ourselves have to sift through it and decide which version makes the most sense.
@@Enerdhil I kinda like it when a story is kind of vague and fragmented, it feels more realistic in my opininon, like with old tales and legends in our world. But I'll defenitely read the children of Hurín sometime, altough I already know the story.
If you do a video on Isildur (I did not see one in your list of videos,) can you include his son Elendur? I remember reading in I think Unfinished Tales, a story on the Disaster of the Gladden Fields. In it, there was a paragraph or so talking about Elrond remembering Elendur and how much Aragorn II looked like him. The last sentence talked about how he should have been king after his father Isildur and how long it took for him to have some sort of revenge. Also, it was said that Elendur was in mind and body more like his grandfather Elendil than his father or uncle or any of his brothers or cousin(s)(?)
Amazing 👏
The official trailer makes it look as if Peter Jackson has turned this into a story about the heroism of Helm Hammerhand's daughter. I get that there's not enough material in the written story for a full screenplay, so what will be interesting to see is whether all of the trailer material focusing on "Hera" is unnecessary padding added to the written story (like the "Tauriel" material in The Hobbit films) or whether the "Hera" story replaces the written story (just as Jackson had Arwen replace Glorfindel in the part of the Fellowship of the Ring film where Frodo is saved from the Ringwraiths).
"Go on missions of his own" oh yeah, probably to murk hella people
Eat them too
2 days! You did it Matt. Thank you
Thanks! It was a sprint to the finish on this one!
and Debbie..... DEBBIE!!! Our favorite!
I’m very excited with this forthcoming anime movie! I would like to Helm’s daughter had a name and a voice in the adaptation, similarly to Éowyn (but not equally, of course, I know there is no prophecy in this case, and she should be herself, authentic, etc. etc. etc.).
Yeah, I can't see Helm's daughter remaining unnamed. That would be weird, haha. I wonder if they'll perhaps pull from another name from the history of Rohan to use. Could be a fun easter egg, like in the Two Towers - the woman with the two kids on the horse is named "Morwen" - the name of Hurin's wife, and the mother of Turin & Nienor from the First Age.
Also, they could show Wulf accompanying his father on the few trips for council meetings and trying to flirt with her while his father is dissing Helm for a few hours.
@@NerdoftheRings Morwen was also the name of Theoden's mother who was from Gondor.
@@NerdoftheRings I would expect other more...Anglo-Saxon/Norse-like name, in the manner of Hild, Helm's sister, his wife and daughter would not have the names such as those used in the naming traditions of Gondor, as Morwen was a name that appears to be used in tradition of re-using old names of Edain of old (Gondor loved to reuse those), Theoden's wife Elfhild, or sister Theodwyn something of the sort.
I love animated series and i'm so excited. Should i keep the bar low guys? Do you think it'll be disappointing?
I have high hopes. I think they picked a story that has enough to go off of in the original text that it will be highly compelling. Also, it's really well self-contained, so it doesn't rely too much on other locations/events in Middle-earth during this time. I would LOVE to see more films like this that tell smaller, but still epic stories from Middle-earth history.
This story will almost certainly be better than the live action TV show. It will probably be the only silver lining in fact.
@@NerdoftheRings I personally want to see an adaption of the two blue wizards. There is a lot of room for interpretation as to what they ended up doing in the east.
@@NerdoftheRings how long should the anime movie be to do the story justice?
@@eternalnjem I honestly think it could still be done well in a 90-minute film. Maybe 2 hours tops. No need for a huge 3-hour film.
EVERY SINGLE VIDEO I WATCH I HAVE GOOSEBUMPS
Yes I'm very excited to see how it is!
ok... Helms Hammerhand... what a badass character, what a mounstrosous men, so, all make sense again.... when that horn sound all peapol with rohirrim blood knew... all who has fear will die... and I'm sure the uruk hai feel that fear....
it would be awesome If helm spirit would appear after that horn sound... "a tall, stong and ghostly being appear in the field... killing orcs and uruk-hai with his bare hands"
cool vid! go on with the good work nerd of the rings!
and where can you find that movie btw?
@@technic5528
Fantastic name you have!
They just announced the production of the anime film beginning, so it'll be a while before it comes out in theaters.
@@Enerdhil k, thx btw!
watching theoden ride out after watching this makes it so much cooler!
Would be interested to hear your thoughts on what would have happened if Saruman was in attendance at Rivendell when the fellowship was decided
Since they knew him to be a traitor by then, I'd say there would be a fight that would break out. haha. If you're wondering about a situation where Saruman's treachery wasn't known by then, I would imagine Saruman would volunteer for the Fellowship so he could await his chance to take the ring by force - knowing he couldn't claim it there in Rivendell and his best chance would be in the wild.
I got goosebumps when you narrated this lore. No wonder, the orcs grew afraid when dealing with the Rohirrim in War of The Rings
Riders of rohan ❤️❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥 rise. We always appreciate your hard work and dedication towards these videos.
Interested story. I was entertained. Nice knowing how Saruman arrived.
I'm so hype cant wait for the movie!
I'm really hyped for the new animated movie
OK that was all amazing and i didnt know any of it.
"By covering the life and travels of Helm Hammerhand" scratch that, actually the life and travels of HELM'S DAUGHTER 😅 (still want to see it, obviously)
I'm mostly looking forward to this story in the movie. I'm mostly afraid we will get a different story.
Helm was such a badass. His story was one of the best parts in LOTR.
Awesome video